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[Q] Which highly touted feature(s) of your G'Nex, and ICS, were a bit of a letdown?

Now that you have your G'Nex, (and isn't it the ish?!!) Is there any functionality of it, or ICS, that was a bit of a let down?
I've had mine a little over a week and I'd have to say, that for me it's the camera. Panorama is VERY cool, and impresses everyone, and zero shutter lag is great. But I notice that the quality of basic snapshots is lacking. Colors look unnatural, strange tinting, etc. It may all be in the settings, which I have just now started tweaking. Hopefully I can come up with the right combo, because what's the point of all of the rest, if the pictures come out bad?
Other than that's it's been a major lovefest with the new "baby", complete with frequent battery changes, and late night chargings.

McDizzle said:
Now that you have your G'Nex, (and isn't it the ish?!!) Is there any functionality of it, or ICS, that was a bit of a let down?
I've had mine a little over a week and I'd have to say, that for me it's the camera. Panorama is VERY cool, and impresses everyone, and zero shutter lag is great. But I notice that the quality of basic snapshots is lacking. Colors look unnatural, strange tinting, etc. It may all be in the settings, which I have just now started tweaking. Hopefully I can come up with the right combo, because what's the point of all of the rest, if the pictures come out bad?
Other than that's it's been a major lovefest with the new "baby", complete with frequent battery changes, and late night chargings.
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IMO nothing let me down in regards to the specs and quality of this phone/ICS. I came from the SGS so everything with the GNex was a big improvement for me.
Some will probably say that the battery is a letdown, but given the sheer size and resolution of the screen i'd say it is OK.
/PS: I have the GSM version.

I was letdown there wasn't a hidden micro sd slot. That's it.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.

I would also say the camera, but I will also say the speaker on this phone is a piece of crap!! I can't believe they shipped the phone with such a low ass speaker! Unbelievable!!! But I still like the damn phone
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Letdown:
1. Camera produced out-of-focus quite a lot
2. Speaker is too low
That's all ...
Battery is great, no problem with that (more than 2 days standby with more than 4 hours screen on time).

Gripes
The screen-capture function must have been designed by a complete sadist. For me it works. 1 out of 10 times....
No Scandinavial dictionary. Never thought I'd miss spell-checking, but I do! With a vengance.
Other than that I''m seriously satisfied.
/M

gogol said:
Letdown:
1. Camera produced out-of-focus quite a lot
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This is actually a bug in the Google ROM and is fixed in 4.0.3

None. The speaker is a bit of a let down but that wasn't a highly-touted feature.

I dislike the fact that the camera requires a tap to focus and another to take a picture. Why can't I just tap the shutter button and it focuses for me?

EP2008 said:
I dislike the fact that the camera requires a tap to focus and another to take a picture. Why can't I just tap the shutter button and it focuses for me?
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mine works fine, using 4.0.3 AOKP ROM

McHan said:
The screen-capture function must have been designed by a complete sadist. For me it works. 1 out of 10 times....
No Scandinavial dictionary. Never thought I'd miss spell-checking, but I do! With a vengance.
Other than that I''m seriously satisfied.
/M
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Geez you are so right! It soo easy on my iPhone compare to the nexus!
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Whine, whine, whine.
I must be a sadist, because the screencap feature works for me, EVERY TIME.

The only thing I find to be a letdown is the lack of official Google Wallet with the Verizon version. I don't trust putting a hacked app on my phone that pays with credit cards. Other than that this phone rocks!!

In the original reveal for the GNex, the presenters had mentioned a 'manual white balance.' I got really excited for this, thinking we'd be able to set a custom WB or at the very least manually set the color temperature (in K) to whatever we wanted. Turns out they just meant it was the same as the previous iterations of Android, and that we were limited to Daylight/Tungsten/Fluorescent/etc.
A true manual white balance would alleviate a ton of issues that people complain about in regards to color reproduction. Oh well -- maybe one of these days.

The speaker, like many claim, sucks quite some donkey balls.
The option, or rather not to have the option, to slot a micro-SD card, but we knew that when we bought it . Still 16g should be enough for your phone (imo).
A feature of ICS I never use though is faceunlock... highly featured and beloved, but I don't use it.
It's a nice add-on though but I like to have no lock at all, had my company mail on my older SGS1 and always had to unlock through letter/digit combo.. meh so just slide away for me
Overall, this is the best phone for me, still gonna get the SGSIII aswell to play with.
Or maybe 'encourage' my girlfriend to get it when her contract has to be renewed so I can claim it

the overall smoothness was a huge let-down for me, initially, as most of my previous droids were smoother and faster in comparison. 4.0.3 took care of that once and for all though. Everything's close to perfect now.
This is pretty much the best smartphone on the market right now.

Sometimes I'm amazed by the reading comprehension (or lack thereof). He asked what advertised features of the phone ended up being a let down.
-Couple of things here...nobody ever said the phone would have a SD slot.
-Yes they advertised NFC but don't recall them claiming Wallet would be installed, the highly touted NFC stuff was Android Beam.
-The speaker also was not any kind of advertised feature...we all know its a gamble on any phone.
Anyways..while the face unlock feature works its hardly secure as has been demonstrated, I'd complain a little about the camera but I don't believe phones should be expected to take good pictures that's what DSLRs are for.

derrelicte said:
In the original reveal for the GNex, the presenters had mentioned a 'manual white balance.' I got really excited for this, thinking we'd be able to set a custom WB or at the very least manually set the color temperature (in K) to whatever we wanted. Turns out they just meant it was the same as the previous iterations of Android, and that we were limited to Daylight/Tungsten/Fluorescent/etc.
A true manual white balance would alleviate a ton of issues that people complain about in regards to color reproduction. Oh well -- maybe one of these days.
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couple of things here. if the picture i want to take is that important that i need to worry about wb i will use my 5d and shoot in raw. also a lot of people seem to be having issues just taking a picture with the gn if you think these same people are going to be able to figure out setting a manual wb thats a hella stretch.

Really I think it's a matter of the nexus not living up to the hype. For months people have been hyping up this phone. My last phone was a Evo 3d, going to the nexus was really a blah kinda upgrade. ICS is really nice and having it be fully functioning is a very good selling point, but on the 3D they pretty much had everything except the camera and wimax. I would say it ran almost as smooth as my nexus. Don't get me wrong the nexus is a great phone and would recommend it to others. It's just not a huge upgrade from a modern dual core phone.
Also the speaker is kickass compared to the Evo 3d's! And this phone should of been named the Nexus Prime!

adrynalyne said:
Whine, whine, whine.
I must be a sadist, because the screencap feature works for me, EVERY TIME.
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Really??? With on/off button and then vol-down? 45% of the time I get the Phone Options menu, 45% the phone goes to silent. I'm not being facetious, I REALLY want this to work. As Big Samm says; on the iPhone it's dead easy and works 100%. On MY Nexus; hardly ever.....
Any ideas what can be wrong on our phones?

SGS3... What do you think?

Just watched the live unveiling of the Samsung Galaxy S3. What are your thoughts? I'm very impressed!
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not that,not that great
dave2metz said:
Just watched the live unveiling of the Samsung Galaxy S3. What are your thoughts? I'm very impressed!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using xda premium
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That's what happened when you have high expectations of anything... you get disappointed. Personally, I think they could have done a better job. Yea they have some cool new features, but there should have been more. And that siri like voice thing is a fail.. they should have copied that.
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dave2metz said:
Just watched the live unveiling of the Samsung Galaxy S3. What are your thoughts? I'm very impressed!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using xda premium
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That's what happened when you have high expectations of anything... you get disappointed. Personally, I think they could have done a better job. Yea they have some cool new features, but there should have been more. And that siri like voice thing is a fail.. they should have copied that.

Had no expectations and I'm still disappointed.
I don't need a phone to tell me which of the captured photos is the "best"
one.

I felt certain things can be better but that eye recognition & pop out player was amazing to me (if you can do it with all videos like YouTube, etc.) I'll sell my other SII today...
But I might hold off til they get a 1080p display because I'm not jumping ship for a 720p display

I'm debating whether i should wait for the GS3 to be released and export it, or to buy the galaxy nexus now. It's kinda disappointing that its almost the same screen as the nexus, and the back of it looks like SHI*.

MrKnitty said:
I felt certain things can be better but that eye recognition & pop out player was amazing to me (if you can do it with all videos like YouTube, etc.) I'll sell my other SII today...
But I might hold off til they get a 1080p display because I'm not jumping ship for a 720p display
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On a 4.8in screen, I don't think the eye can determine the difference between 1080p and 720p. The difference is literally microscopic. On a 60inch TV you can for sure tell the difference though.

I was impressed with the eye sleep option, liked the continuous flash that determines the best photo. Like that you can pick up the phone while texting and it automatically calls someone. Also like the quad core processor. It apparently has gotten impressive benchmark scores. The ICS with touchwiz looked pretty good to me, along with the additional toggles as well. All in all I was happy with what they released.

Honestly, it would be my absolute dream phone if only it had two things: a NOTIFICATION LIGHT/LED, and of course AOSP. Fortunately, one of those can be fixed with ongoing development, but BLN just doesn't quite fill the void for me. I miss that notification light. :/ otherwise, I like the curvy simplicity of it, and the dark blue finish rather than flat black is a nice choice!
-the ultimate black dragon-

Chochiwpg said:
On a 4.8in screen, I don't think the eye can determine the difference between 1080p and 720p. The difference is literally microscopic. On a 60inch TV you can for sure tell the difference though.
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Even on a 60 inch screen it is nearly impossible to tell. Its just all part of marketing and wanting to have the "best"
As far as the phone, I am honestly not that impressed, I think the GN is still the better choice, sure it may have nice specs and all, but when it cokes down to it. We need a phone that will have the latest software and this will he no different than the pickle we're in right now. We'll be behind again in about 3 months with next OS. Nexus all the way for me from now on.
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Hmmm... just got an awesome idea to make money of this phone... so I know will love this phone except of course the plastic feeling so I m about to invest in making ceramic or metal back covers... looks like I m finally gonna be rich... mwahahaha
Sent from my Galaxy SII T-mobile using XDA

Chochiwpg said:
On a 4.8in screen, I don't think the eye can determine the difference between 1080p and 720p. The difference is literally microscopic. On a 60inch TV you can for sure tell the difference though.
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I know but you know its coming out and imma be first in line with a 7-11 chili dog

Not impressed..... Going to hold off for the new nexus instead.

Of course, samsung did a great job; however, i think ill just be sticking with my gs2 for now. In the US, it'll most probably get a Qualcomm dual core processor so besides a few improvements from the gs2, its nothing major. but definitely a nice phone!

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I dont feel theres nearly enough improvements to justify upgrading sure would be fun to have something new tho haha

im torn, I like alot of the new feature the phone offers, but the phone looks like a nexus/gs2, nothing drastic like we all hoped for. Kind of like a iphone 4s imo. What do you guys think about the upcoming nexus phone? that might be the game changer, since rumors has it that it will be a upgraded version of the s3.
when does google usually unveil the nexus phones? at their google io thing in june?
just my 2 cents

Disappointed
Overall - disappointing.
Great performance and features - absolutely!. 2100mA battery should = longer usage times (even with 4 faster cores). HD res is great. Improved UI. Some very nifty accessories. 8mp camera is fine as improved software & performance makes the picture - though Carl Zeiss optics would have been great.
4.8 screen getting too big for a phone. Was hoping for an ultra thin bezel hence reducing size.
But pentile matrix? Heavier? Thicker? No quality materials? Old Mali GPU? No LTE? 1Gb RAM? And featureless design? Very, very poor for a flagship phone that's meant to be setting the standard...
Heavier I understand (bigger battery weighs more). But there's HD Super Amoled plus on tab7.7 - why pentile here? Competition has phones 6.9mm thick. HTC, Sony, even Motorla & Huawei have better designs (not to mention Apple) and materials. So it's not as if any of this wasn't achievable.
I have a SGS 1 & 2. The S2 was well ahead of the competition, bar materials and uninspiring design. Was looking forward to a groundbreaking S3 on all fronts. It's very good, but good isn't good enough these days.
Samsung needed to tick more boxes to place this phone undisputably out in front leaving others to catch up & not easily surpass.
In no rush to get one now, and possibly might not. Will wait to see the competition - eg: Sony Ion, HTC, even (lord help me) Apple; or maybe wait for SGS4.

masamichi7 said:
Honestly, it would be my absolute dream phone if only it had two things: a NOTIFICATION LIGHT/LED, and of course AOSP. Fortunately, one of those can be fixed with ongoing development, but BLN just doesn't quite fill the void for me. I miss that notification light. :/ otherwise, I like the curvy simplicity of it, and the dark blue finish rather than flat black is a nice choice!
-the ultimate black dragon-
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The GS3 will have the LED Notification light.

DannyB513 said:
The GS3 will have the LED Notification light.
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The international didnt. Do you know if the US variants have a chance of getting the led?
-the ultimate black dragon-

[Q] Problems with this phone?

Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.

xdaforo said:
Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
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Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.

U r not going to have any problems with the battery. The is a excellent phone. The camera with low lighting has some quality issues, and the biggest problem is the lack of updates. We r stuck on android 4.1, the hardware is capable but the software is old, for example u can't use Bluetooth LE devices. ..

Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.

I droped it for 3 times and its ok!
But I bought full insurance

grunch21 said:
Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
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Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
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U r not going to have any problems with the battery. The is a excellent phone. The camera with low lighting has some quality issues, and the biggest problem is the lack of updates. We r stuck on android 4.1, the hardware is capable but the software is old, for example u can't use Bluetooth LE devices. ..
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Updates wil come finally, I think
t1mman said:
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
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bafdboysbehindthis said:
I droped it for 3 times and its ok!
But I bought full insurance
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Does this mean that you already broke it and you had to use that nice insurance?
thanks for all your comments and opinions

xdaforo said:
Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
Updates wil come finally, I think
Does this mean that you already broke it and you had to use that nice insurance?
thanks for all your comments and opinions
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No, its ok. Not even a scrach)

grunch21 said:
Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
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xdaforo said:
Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655237

Geeeze bro! You can't put a bad flash in the "known issue" section...

t1mman said:
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
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Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks

Biker1121 said:
Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
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Try LG Camera, compare image, you'll see!

bafdboysbehindthis said:
No, its ok. Not even a scrach)
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Good to know.
niyazidk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655237
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I don't think this is a real problem with the phone.
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Geeeze bro! You can't put a bad flash in the "known issue" section...
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indeed
Biker1121 said:
Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
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I think he means using third party software to take the photos. But it my experiencie it doesn't help too much since all the software use the same "limit/native values" or whatever u call them (aperture and shutter speed settings and so on) when taking a photo. So that means that, unless the "stock camera software" makes and awful work when choosing what paremeters to use, you won't notice big differences between obtained results.

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I think he means using third party software to take the photos. But it my experiencie it doesn't help too much since all the software use the same "limit/native values" or whatever u call them (aperture and shutter speed settings and so on) when taking a photo. So that means that, unless the "stock camera software" makes and awful work when choosing what paremeters to use, you won't notice big differences between obtained results.
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This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
Photo taken by OEM software:
Photo taken by LG Camera

t1mman said:
This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
Photo taken by OEM software:
Photo taken by LG Camera
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What is OEM software? could u send me a link? thanks

OEM means "stock", like the one in the stock rom provided by LG.
The "LG Camera" is another software, found in the Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=en
I don't know how come they called it "LGCamera", beats me! But it's not the camera software from LG!

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This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
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Well I don't see where you wanna get. Actually I dont know which one do u like the most. I just see a more natural color but a much more noisy shot than with the second one.
Where I want to go is that you can get those 2 results with both app cameras, playing around with manual settings. The problem is that 90% of people don't use them and just press the butom and take the photo.
So what makes the difference when choosing one app instead the other is actually depending only on how the automatic mode works..

In part, I know I can get a better quality on the OEM software using custom ISO settings, but the image will get blurry easely, which is not realy an option unless you take "still subjects".
The grainy feel on the first one is realy beyond what I could consider an "average" quality.

xdaforo said:
Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
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Good point.
xdaforo said:
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
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I was torn between buying SP, nexus 4 and LGOG. SP has larger battery capacity and external storage, nexus 4 has direct update from google. But i ended up buying LGOG cos it has better hardware, nicer screen than SP, and larger storage than Nexus 4. I bought my sister the SP though, and she loves it!

grunch21 said:
Good point.
I was torn between buying SP, nexus 4 and LGOG. SP has larger battery capacity and external storage, nexus 4 has direct update from google. But i ended up buying LGOG cos it has better hardware, nicer screen than SP, and larger storage than Nexus 4. I bought my sister the SP though, and she loves it!
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all are good options i guess. thank you for all ur comments

Thinking of getting a Nextbit Robin..

How do you guys like the Robin? How is the battery life. Audio quality on headphones , and the cameras? Oh and also how does Snapchat look on it ? Thanks ! Currently have the mate 8. The design on the Nextbit is what I like

@jordy787 - Hey there, thanks for considering us! I'm really happy with how our camera turned out. It used to be quite slow, but we've made huge improvements! Regarding audio quality, I 'd say for my Bose headphones, I'm really enjoying it. Some people have mentioned some Bluetooth connectivity problems to headsets, but that's been on rare occasions. My wife uses Snapchat all the time and has a good time. Robin is an awesome device and we hope you'll like it too!

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@jordy787 - Hey there, thanks for considering us! I'm really happy with how our camera turned out. It used to be quite slow, but we've made huge improvements! Regarding audio quality, I 'd say for my Bose headphones, I'm really enjoying it. Some people have mentioned some Bluetooth connectivity problems to headsets, but that's been on rare occasions. My wife uses Snapchat all the time and has a good time. Robin is an awesome device and we hope you'll like it too!
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Thanks for the reply! That's cool that you guys are on XDA haha. Is there any updates coming out that give better battery life ? Heard it's not the best

Yep, I'm here a bunch. Actually our team is working on a battery improvement update for Q4. Some people aren't impressed with battery life, but I'm getting about 3.5-4 hours of SOT with medium usage. My network quality is for the most part good, and i'm on Wi-Fi mostly. I don't take a lot of pictures, and mostly just hang out on Reddit.

Main complainsts: weak GPS lock on.
Outside of that, it's been 5x better than my previous 5X =)

The Robin is awesome.. point blank! For what it is it's amazing.. there is a few flaws of course! But doesn't all phones have flaws? My main issues with this phone?
1. There does not seem to be a lot of support yet..
2. There is literally like no cases for it haha.
Other than that this phone was made for my hands.. best phone I've used in.. ever.. this is coming from someone that has built roms for the Nexus devices for years.. I will not be getting a nexus this year.. why? The Robin has landed in the nest and I don't see if going anywhere until the Nextbit 2 phone if and when it comes out I'll be one of the first buyers!
Sent from my Robin using Tapatalk

Smartphones have gotten so good that we now tend to focus on whats wrong with the phone instead of whats great about it. We used to want good cameras, good screen, good built quality and decent battery life. Nowadays most phones come out the box with all these checked off, so we then start to be picky and choosy and whatnot. Most Android phones now come with everything that you will need to get you through the day. So really think about what it is that is most important to you. You can go out and spend $500+ for a GREAT camera phone, or another one that has all kind of added features and mods. The NBR is attempting to stray way from that in my eyes, and thats what caught my attention.
I bought me and my wife one each used on Swappa for $215 each, hers arrived yesterday and in the 5 minutes that i got to play with it, I was VERY impressed with it. I cant wait to get mine tomorrow and then i can update this, but honestly its a no brainier to me.
For $200 or so used how can you go wrong with this? we can sit here and point out the bad things all day, but at the end of the day it all comes down to what YOU are looking for when it comes to your most personal device. I want 3 things; good camera, good screen, and good battery life. I have spent a lot of time looking into all of this and thats why i came to the conclusion of going for this phone. I know battery is not going to be the best, but then again that also reminds me to put my phone down and go enjoy life Hope this helps.

I feel this phone rocks. It is true. For the price of admission, the phone is excellent and hold up. Battery life is good too as it compares to phones with good battery life specs and greater size battery phones. It does get hot at times and cracks a bit, but with support for stuff like that, not bad too. Only thing I wish it had was a better camera. Not bad for what it is. But with phones that have a greater picture quality, feels a bit dated. Memory usage, no slowdown and snappy. Clean android with the Google Launcher for me.
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jordy787 said:
How do you guys like the Robin? How is the battery life. Audio quality on headphones , and the cameras? Oh and also how does Snapchat look on it ? Thanks ! Currently have the mate 8. The design on the Nextbit is what I like
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Don't even purchase the Nextbit Robin. It has huge audio playback glitches via 3.5mm and enabling built-in Equaliser in Google Play Music messes up the quality.

MiracleMiah said:
Don't even purchase the Nextbit Robin. It has huge audio playback glitches via 3.5mm and enabling built-in Equaliser in Google Play Music messes up the quality.
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Yeah I never ended up getting it. I have a OnePlus 3 now.

jordy787 said:
Yeah I never ended up getting it. I have a OnePlus 3 now.
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Keep an eye on this Nextbit Robin section. Going to post a thread where I helped Nextbit and in return they banned me for speaking the truth.

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Keep an eye on this Nextbit Robin section. Going to post a thread where I helped Nextbit and in return they banned me for speaking the truth.
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Wow..that's is totally unprofessional!

Hi all! Have few questions and depending on the answer I may or may not purchase Robin.
1) I am with T-Mobile and need the device to support: 1) VoLTE, 2) Band 12 and 3) WiFi Calling(3rd item is not priority if first 2 are supported)
2) How loud and clear are front stereo speakers compared to other phones such as ZTE Axon 7 or Alcatel Idol 4s?
3) How fast is the 32GB storage compared to other phones (UFS 2.0)?

Charkatak said:
Hi all! Have few questions and depending on the answer I may or may not purchase Robin.
1) I am with T-Mobile and need the device to support: 1) VoLTE, 2) Band 12 and 3) WiFi Calling(3rd item is not priority if first 2 are supported)
2) How loud and clear are front stereo speakers compared to other phones such as ZTE Axon 7 or Alcatel Idol 4s?
3) How fast is the 32GB storage compared to other phones (UFS 2.0)?
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1) First two are supported as far as I know. I have the Robin on T-Mobile and Band 12 absolutely works.
2) Wifi calling is T-Mobile specific (at least their version) so I doubt you'll be get that.
3) Cameras are OK. If you're a shutterbug, in this price range the Nexus 5X is a better choice. A casual snapper in good lighting can get nice pictures from the Robin and those are good enough for social media.
4) These front facing speakers are very good. Not as good as the Idol 4S and as loud as the ZTE Axon, but pretty good. Audio jack is solid.
5) Battery was trash before the September update, and now it is OK. Still helpful to have the charger handy, but you can eek through a day. it charges really quickly though if you've got a 2.0 charger handy.
6) Read/Wrote speed on the internal storage is good enough.
I like mine. I'll definitely keep it around, even if I upgrade to a HTC 10.
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Charkatak said:
Hi all! Have few questions and depending on the answer I may or may not purchase Robin.
1) I am with T-Mobile and need the device to support: 1) VoLTE, 2) Band 12 and 3) WiFi Calling(3rd item is not priority if first 2 are supported)
2) How loud and clear are front stereo speakers compared to other phones such as ZTE Axon 7 or Alcatel Idol 4s?
3) How fast is the 32GB storage compared to other phones (UFS 2.0)?
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storage speed is so so. not as good as samsung phone but it's acceptable.

Now would be a good time to get one. Only $169 with free shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D3Q8EGY

Tikerz said:
Now would be a good time to get one. Only $169 with free shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D3Q8EGY
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I just pulled the trigger on this... At that price it's a steal.
If Nextbit would have crammed a 3000mah battery in the thing I wouldn't have any reservations.
But I just couldn't resist.

Also thinking of getting one because of the price drop. Have read CM13 really helps the battery life over stock ROM.

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Also thinking of getting one because of the price drop. Have read CM13 really helps the battery life over stock ROM.
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Cm13 actually has a little bit of a battery drain, but performance is a lot smoother than stock on cm13 in my opinion.

willyboi said:
Cm13 actually has a little bit of a battery drain, but performance is a lot smoother than stock on cm13 in my opinion.
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Good to know! Just purchased my Robin yesterday and should get here tomorrow. :good:

Overall happy with V30

Coming from the S8+ and I could not be happier. The camera just amazes me. I forced myself this weekend to use the modes. What a great phone.
Thoughts?

Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.

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Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
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I agree. It's only missing two things in my opinion.
- LED indicator
- Better front camera
I also didn't realize the benefit of having the headphone jack on the bottom until this phone.

Yeah I also prefer the headphone jack to be on the bottom.

Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Yeah this makes no sense. I'm not married to this phone and want the best I can have. I honestly love this phone. I've considered sending back to get the XL 2 and that's merely for software updates. Not worth the lack in hardware, imo.

I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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melihcarter said:
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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I thought it was weird as well. I think I read that they were testing a Korean version for whatever reason. I'm guessing it's all that they were able to get a hold of while they tested, but it seems a bit unfair of them to not wait for a US carrier model like every other reputable publication.

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I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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All it takes to prove this right is a quick read of their opinion regarding the V30 audio/headphone jack. I know of basically a whole forum of people who would kill for a phone that has awesome audio and headphone jack. Problem is that the manufacturers can't seem to build a phone with that and everything else.
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I was a "never again" LG guy ...
So far, so good. Very happy with the V30.
In fact, for the most part, I actually like their skin over the stock Android from my Nexus. Few tweaks would really make it more useful, but no issue.

My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output

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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.

liam_davenport said:
My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
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Camera is great, but not the best and audio output through the headphone jack is the best. I say the camera is not the best overall, but for me it kind of is because I would rather have the wide angle instead lens of 2x zoom.

Picked up my V30 from T-Mobile last night. My immediate impressions, coming from an S8 and previously a Pixel XL are that this phone is great but does have some immediate flaws.
Some initial thoughts:
- The finger print scanner is blazing fast. On par with my old OnePlus 3 and my Pixel XL. In comparison, the Samsung S8 fingerprint scanner is slow, often unresponsive, and in a horrible position.
- I work from my home office full time and I spend A LOT of time on client calls. I often have headphones plugged into my phone for these calls. I just got off of a conference call and could immediately tell that the audio output through even pretty basic in-ear headphones is significantly better than my S8 was. Voice clarity is much improved and people sound more like they are in the room with you, rather than on a conference call. This is HUGE for me. And I imagine that music quality will see this same improvement through the headphones.
- I was happy to see that there was SIGNIFICANTLY less bloatware to uninstall/disable on this phone than their was on my Samsung S8.
- The overall UI is extremely fluid and fast. The speed of opening quick settings and the notification drop down, navigating through settings, and swapping between apps is on par with my Pixel XL, which is a breath of fresh air coming from the S8. However, there is still some lag to be had within apps, but I'll discuss that below.
- The camera is excellent. I'm not seeing any blurry photos, as others have apparently seen.
The negatives...
- The stock LG dialer and messages apps are hilariously ugly. I was able to get a new theme installed, which cleaned those up a bit but it still doesn't compare to the stock Google dialer/messages apps. Future "Pixel" style themes for the V30 will likely fix this, though.
- I have seen noticeable and consistent scroll lag in some apps like Chrome, Instagram, Facebook, and even in LG's own themes app. I've changed animation scaling to .5x and enabled GPU rendering in developer settings but I haven't seen an improvement. I've only had my phone for about 12 hours at this point so I'm going to give it more time to adapt. However, if this doesn't improve and/or starts effecting more apps over time, it might actually be a deal breaker for me.
- I compared the Pixel 2 XL to the V30, side by side, in my local Verizon store. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL put the single bottom facing speaker on the V30 to complete shame. The downside is that those front facing speakers come with larger bezels, though. Unfortunately, in my short time using the V30, I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom speaker more than once.
I still have my Pixel 2 XL on order and at the moment, I don't intend to cancel it. If I find that the lag I'm seeing in some apps does not improve over time, I'll probably return the V30 and hold out for my 2 XL. I don't want to give up wireless charging or the headphone jack. But I will if I have to, in order to get a 100% lag free phone. Especially at this $800+ price point.

eduardmc said:
owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
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I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. I've tried LG's cleaner app and that doesn't help. I've tried enabling the force GPU rendering, and that doesn't help for me either. I'm hoping that future updates help out. This phone is the perfect size and feels so nice in the hand. I really don't want a different phone, so I'm going to wait and see if it gets better.
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@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.

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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
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He's saying that compared to the Samsung S8/S8+/Note 8 screens, the LG V30 screen doesn't look as good. I do concur with this. I wouldn't go back to the S8 because I much prefer the overall feel and UI of the V30. However, compared to the screen on my S8, the V30's screen looks noticeably washed out. My current long term decision is between the V30 or the Pixel 2 XL, which essentially share the same screen. So this is not much of a consideration for me. However, I could actually see this being a deal breaker for some.
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[/COLOR]@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.

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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
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They do replace the stock LG apps. You just have to make sure and set them as your default dialer and message apps

lyall29 said:
I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. .
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.

My G6 has weird, terrible lag sometimes too. A reboot does fix it, but waiting a while sometimes makes it go away too. I know this is a V30 forum, but sad to see this issue persists across these 2 devices. Its not a deal breaker for me, but sure is something that I experience way too often on a 2017 smartphone.
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
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