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[Q] Which highly touted feature(s) of your G'Nex, and ICS, were a bit of a letdown?

Now that you have your G'Nex, (and isn't it the ish?!!) Is there any functionality of it, or ICS, that was a bit of a let down?
I've had mine a little over a week and I'd have to say, that for me it's the camera. Panorama is VERY cool, and impresses everyone, and zero shutter lag is great. But I notice that the quality of basic snapshots is lacking. Colors look unnatural, strange tinting, etc. It may all be in the settings, which I have just now started tweaking. Hopefully I can come up with the right combo, because what's the point of all of the rest, if the pictures come out bad?
Other than that's it's been a major lovefest with the new "baby", complete with frequent battery changes, and late night chargings.

McDizzle said:
Now that you have your G'Nex, (and isn't it the ish?!!) Is there any functionality of it, or ICS, that was a bit of a let down?
I've had mine a little over a week and I'd have to say, that for me it's the camera. Panorama is VERY cool, and impresses everyone, and zero shutter lag is great. But I notice that the quality of basic snapshots is lacking. Colors look unnatural, strange tinting, etc. It may all be in the settings, which I have just now started tweaking. Hopefully I can come up with the right combo, because what's the point of all of the rest, if the pictures come out bad?
Other than that's it's been a major lovefest with the new "baby", complete with frequent battery changes, and late night chargings.
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IMO nothing let me down in regards to the specs and quality of this phone/ICS. I came from the SGS so everything with the GNex was a big improvement for me.
Some will probably say that the battery is a letdown, but given the sheer size and resolution of the screen i'd say it is OK.
/PS: I have the GSM version.

I was letdown there wasn't a hidden micro sd slot. That's it.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.

I would also say the camera, but I will also say the speaker on this phone is a piece of crap!! I can't believe they shipped the phone with such a low ass speaker! Unbelievable!!! But I still like the damn phone
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Letdown:
1. Camera produced out-of-focus quite a lot
2. Speaker is too low
That's all ...
Battery is great, no problem with that (more than 2 days standby with more than 4 hours screen on time).

Gripes
The screen-capture function must have been designed by a complete sadist. For me it works. 1 out of 10 times....
No Scandinavial dictionary. Never thought I'd miss spell-checking, but I do! With a vengance.
Other than that I''m seriously satisfied.
/M

gogol said:
Letdown:
1. Camera produced out-of-focus quite a lot
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This is actually a bug in the Google ROM and is fixed in 4.0.3

None. The speaker is a bit of a let down but that wasn't a highly-touted feature.

I dislike the fact that the camera requires a tap to focus and another to take a picture. Why can't I just tap the shutter button and it focuses for me?

EP2008 said:
I dislike the fact that the camera requires a tap to focus and another to take a picture. Why can't I just tap the shutter button and it focuses for me?
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mine works fine, using 4.0.3 AOKP ROM

McHan said:
The screen-capture function must have been designed by a complete sadist. For me it works. 1 out of 10 times....
No Scandinavial dictionary. Never thought I'd miss spell-checking, but I do! With a vengance.
Other than that I''m seriously satisfied.
/M
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Geez you are so right! It soo easy on my iPhone compare to the nexus!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Whine, whine, whine.
I must be a sadist, because the screencap feature works for me, EVERY TIME.

The only thing I find to be a letdown is the lack of official Google Wallet with the Verizon version. I don't trust putting a hacked app on my phone that pays with credit cards. Other than that this phone rocks!!

In the original reveal for the GNex, the presenters had mentioned a 'manual white balance.' I got really excited for this, thinking we'd be able to set a custom WB or at the very least manually set the color temperature (in K) to whatever we wanted. Turns out they just meant it was the same as the previous iterations of Android, and that we were limited to Daylight/Tungsten/Fluorescent/etc.
A true manual white balance would alleviate a ton of issues that people complain about in regards to color reproduction. Oh well -- maybe one of these days.

The speaker, like many claim, sucks quite some donkey balls.
The option, or rather not to have the option, to slot a micro-SD card, but we knew that when we bought it . Still 16g should be enough for your phone (imo).
A feature of ICS I never use though is faceunlock... highly featured and beloved, but I don't use it.
It's a nice add-on though but I like to have no lock at all, had my company mail on my older SGS1 and always had to unlock through letter/digit combo.. meh so just slide away for me
Overall, this is the best phone for me, still gonna get the SGSIII aswell to play with.
Or maybe 'encourage' my girlfriend to get it when her contract has to be renewed so I can claim it

the overall smoothness was a huge let-down for me, initially, as most of my previous droids were smoother and faster in comparison. 4.0.3 took care of that once and for all though. Everything's close to perfect now.
This is pretty much the best smartphone on the market right now.

Sometimes I'm amazed by the reading comprehension (or lack thereof). He asked what advertised features of the phone ended up being a let down.
-Couple of things here...nobody ever said the phone would have a SD slot.
-Yes they advertised NFC but don't recall them claiming Wallet would be installed, the highly touted NFC stuff was Android Beam.
-The speaker also was not any kind of advertised feature...we all know its a gamble on any phone.
Anyways..while the face unlock feature works its hardly secure as has been demonstrated, I'd complain a little about the camera but I don't believe phones should be expected to take good pictures that's what DSLRs are for.

derrelicte said:
In the original reveal for the GNex, the presenters had mentioned a 'manual white balance.' I got really excited for this, thinking we'd be able to set a custom WB or at the very least manually set the color temperature (in K) to whatever we wanted. Turns out they just meant it was the same as the previous iterations of Android, and that we were limited to Daylight/Tungsten/Fluorescent/etc.
A true manual white balance would alleviate a ton of issues that people complain about in regards to color reproduction. Oh well -- maybe one of these days.
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couple of things here. if the picture i want to take is that important that i need to worry about wb i will use my 5d and shoot in raw. also a lot of people seem to be having issues just taking a picture with the gn if you think these same people are going to be able to figure out setting a manual wb thats a hella stretch.

Really I think it's a matter of the nexus not living up to the hype. For months people have been hyping up this phone. My last phone was a Evo 3d, going to the nexus was really a blah kinda upgrade. ICS is really nice and having it be fully functioning is a very good selling point, but on the 3D they pretty much had everything except the camera and wimax. I would say it ran almost as smooth as my nexus. Don't get me wrong the nexus is a great phone and would recommend it to others. It's just not a huge upgrade from a modern dual core phone.
Also the speaker is kickass compared to the Evo 3d's! And this phone should of been named the Nexus Prime!

adrynalyne said:
Whine, whine, whine.
I must be a sadist, because the screencap feature works for me, EVERY TIME.
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Really??? With on/off button and then vol-down? 45% of the time I get the Phone Options menu, 45% the phone goes to silent. I'm not being facetious, I REALLY want this to work. As Big Samm says; on the iPhone it's dead easy and works 100%. On MY Nexus; hardly ever.....
Any ideas what can be wrong on our phones?

[Q] Worth the money?

Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying the LG optimos G, but some people tell me very bad things about the LG brand. Well, i want to know if the phone it's good, in questions of performace, relation in price and quality and in durabillity.

It depends for how much you can get it?
In general it's a good phone. For me the only downside is camera, which pretty ****ty.

I think LG makes great devices, but their feedback sucks. It seems to be changed since G2, but OG seems forgotten. OG is great device, fast, capable, but camera is very bad. Other aspects are almost perfect, HD for 4.7 screen is perfect, image quality is gorgeous. I would say it's definitely worth money, especially in my country where i can buy it for 200-250$.

Well, I picked a refurbished one for 200$ - great value for the money.
Now it's running KitKat (PA), was surprisingly easy to install.
Sent from my Optimus G using Tapatalk

adwienc said:
I think LG makes great devices, but their feedback sucks. It seems to be changed since G2, but OG seems forgotten. OG is great device, fast, capable, but camera is very bad. Other aspects are almost perfect, HD for 4.7 screen is perfect, image quality is gorgeous. I would say it's definitely worth money, especially in my country where i can buy it for 200-250$.
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I saw a video and the camera seems very capable for my needs. Thank you for the feedback... I was scared because it's a low price compared to the specs.

Its low price is due to its age. The device is from late 2012 which easily beats some brands phones from late 2013 and even 2014. By the way, it's a flagship phone and is not forgotten. Kitkat is on the way for it. check my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2652276&page=8

It's worth every cent
eskorpiao112 said:
Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying the LG optimos G, but some people tell me very bad things about the LG brand. Well, i want to know if the phone it's good, in questions of performace, relation in price and quality and in durabillity.
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I've owned quite a few smartphones, but have never been as pleased with any as with the OG. What I wish it did have though is FM Radio and an IR blaster, but in terms of performance, this is a beast and rightly so because it was the most powerful smartphone released in 2012.

To be honest, there is few things that really irritate me.
- one of the worst cameras I've ever seen, which should be at least average since it was LG's flagship smartphone. In addition to that lens gets scratches really easily which causes photos to be even worse.
- no 5V output through usb (which means no otg without external power)
- really bad sound recording with microphone (it's ok with normal voice, but anything louder makes distortion).
And because of those, I regret buying this device. It's true, it has nice SoC for it's price, but for me it's too much, dual core would be just enough to handle android without any problem. As for durability, it's rather more vulnerable to drops than other phones because it's got glass in the back. Mine phone doesn't look like new, although I keep it in case all the time.
The best thing about this phone? Definitely screen. Is it worth buying? In my opinion - no, I'd rather have nice camera and/or microphone than powerful SoC, but it really depends what you expect from your phone.

nobooya said:
To be honest, there is few things that really irritate me.
- one of the worst cameras I've ever seen, which should be at least average since it was LG's flagship smartphone. In addition to that lens gets scratches really easily which causes photos to be even worse.
- no 5V output through usb (which means no otg without external power)
- really bad sound recording with microphone (it's ok with normal voice, but anything louder makes distortion).
And because of those, I regret buying this device. It's true, it has nice SoC for it's price, but for me it's too much, dual core would be just enough to handle android without any problem. As for durability, it's rather more vulnerable to drops than other phones because it's got glass in the back. Mine phone doesn't look like new, although I keep it in case all the time.
The best thing about this phone? Definitely screen. Is it worth buying? In my opinion - no, I'd rather have nice camera and/or microphone than powerful SoC, but it really depends what you expect from your phone.
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Well dude, i apreciate your opinnion. It helped me. And i won't buy this phone. I don't wanna buy a phone only because his cpu, ram and screen... The other things are realy bad for the opinion of the guys here. And i want a phone with a good camera (not that high quality but a quality that make a good picture) and i just want a phone with a good battery, good cpu (i want to buy a Galaxy SIV Mini, and he have a dual core 1,7 ghz krait) and i want a phone with good features and with a good compatibity for headphones(i bought a Steelseries Flux in-ear and my old sony xperia arc s didn't suport it. Now because of that i'm using a GIO because it's nice to change the rom, don't have blocks and Samsung suports almost all . So it's because i don't want Sony. The phones of sony are realy bad for their price and the system it's realy ugly. Well, thanks for the feedback, i won't buy it like i sad :highfive:

Good camera is only on Nokia devices. Can you find a pleasing device in Nokia phones? I doubt. You still don't know about camera quality after 4.4.2 update. And the eco mode which turns two cpu cores off is there in the device which is so nice. Yet again, As you wish.

I bought ,new F180L (Korea version) for about $180 half month ago.It is a perfect phone for me, really faster than LG P880 ,because of 2GB RAM,Now my system is native f180L V20T KDZ Korean ROM,still perfect,and battery is very good ,I can screen on 5 Hours for a day with brightness 82% automatic.but the only problem is SMS has 80 characters limited,not 140 characters,Who can help me ....

cccn said:
I bought ,new F180L (Korea version) for about $180 half month ago.It is a perfect phone for me, really faster than LG P880 ,because of 2GB RAM,Now my system is native f180L V20T KDZ Korean ROM,still perfect,and battery is very good ,I can screen on 5 Hours for a day with brightness 82% automatic.but the only problem is SMS has 80 characters limited,not 140 characters,Who can help me ....
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It's related to your network.

I think it's wonderful despite its downsides
Hi there,
I just got this phone after some research. I was considering Sony Xperia Z, Galaxy S3 and this one. All of them within the same price range due to they are all now kind of obsolete, and despite its not-so-good camera I got the Optimus G. To be honest with you, I was going to buy a Moto G in the first place, but although I know some people who are quite happy with that, I think it's quite low range still.
To me, camera is not the main thing of a phone. Of course, I can't always take my DSLR with me, so at some point, having a phone with a decent camera is important. But I am going to use the phone mainly for Internet, apps, and so on... and I appreciate a good design as well, so having an S3 just because its camera is better?... no thanks. I've used an S3 for a little while (a couple of weeks or so) and I didn't see it as a huge step forward (but that's my impression). Lots of people have an S3, and it's not that I want to stand out, but I want to buy a phone that I like.
The camera is definitely its worst feature, but it's not that bad. It can take better pictures than previous generations, the problem is (in my view) that it's not as good as other high end devices. And technically speaking, the dreadful megapixel war, it happens on digital cameras as well. When you put a lot of pixels in a tiny sensor it sometimes creates more problems than benefit as each individual pixel may create electrical noise that will be translated into more "grain". And regarding videos, to me the most annoying thing is the micro-stuttering that sometimes happens. Maybe the bandwith needed for processing is too much for the encoder...
Anyway, so far I'm quite happy!
(BTW, there's a mod that apparently improves video/stills quality, although I couldn't install it properly on mine)
Regards

Congrats Dadivx! I also had the same choices as you did + nexus 4 + G2 16g! I chose G and I'm quite happy with it ^_^. I can't find anyone not pleased with it. Catching 4.4.2 wikk add to the pleasure for sure.

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eskorpiao112 said:
Well dude, i apreciate your opinnion. It helped me. And i won't buy this phone. I don't wanna buy a phone only because his cpu, ram and screen... The other things are realy bad for the opinion of the guys here. And i want a phone with a good camera (not that high quality but a quality that make a good picture) and i just want a phone with a good battery, good cpu (i want to buy a Galaxy SIV Mini, and he have a dual core 1,7 ghz krait) and i want a phone with good features and with a good compatibity for headphones(i bought a Steelseries Flux in-ear and my old sony xperia arc s didn't suport it. Now because of that i'm using a GIO because it's nice to change the rom, don't have blocks and Samsung suports almost all . So it's because i don't want Sony. The phones of sony are realy bad for their price and the system it's realy ugly. Well, thanks for the feedback, i won't buy it like i sad :highfive:
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Well I buy this phone just a month ago, true the camera not so good for 13 mp. But there's camera option to choose HDR, it helps you get better picture. For me camera not most important, because I use my phone mostly for internet, Movies and games and this OG never upset me:good:
The screen also very nice for watching movie even hd video in youtube look very crisp. That my opnion about this phone, now I should go before you call me salesman:laugh:

camera...
but...what version do you have?
I have E975 (european version) with 13 mpx camera... and photo have a really good quality... way way better if compared with phone like htc one m7, glaxy s3, galaxy note 2, xperia Z, nexus 4, nexus 5, iphone (version < 5), moto x and all the other phone before 1/2 2013......
naturally last sony, nokia with 500mpx camera, s5, iphone 5 or other newest (and much expensive) phone have better camera.... but really don't think that without magnifying glass you can appreciate them....

antonio.talamo said:
but...what version do you have?
I have E975 (european version) with 13 mpx camera... and photo have a really good quality... way way better if compared with phone like htc one m7, glaxy s3, galaxy note 2, xperia Z, nexus 4, nexus 5, iphone (version < 5), moto x and all the other phone before 1/2 2013......
naturally last sony, nokia with 500mpx camera, s5, iphone 5 or other newest (and much expensive) phone have better camera.... but really don't think that without magnifying glass you can appreciate them....
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Troll?
Sorry but people say even optimus x4 takes better pictures than our G. If it comes to camera our phone is real mistake. I know it won't have quality like normal camera, but at least in daylight it should capture some details, but it doesn't (not to mention when contrast is too big it looks awful). Photos might look good on 4,7" but not on something bigger or when you zoom in a little.
Phones you listed take the same or better pictures. Before posting stuff like this, check it earlier.

nobooya said:
Troll?
Sorry but people say even optimus x4 takes better pictures than our G. If it comes to camera our phone is real mistake. I know it won't have quality like normal camera, but at least in daylight it should capture some details, but it doesn't (not to mention when contrast is too big it looks awful). Photos might look good on 4,7" but not on something bigger or when you zoom in a little.
Phones you listed take the same or better pictures. Before posting stuff like this, check it earlier.
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Really I have no problem with the camera..... maybe I'm not a photography expert, but also when my friends looks at my pictures they found them very good....
it is for this that I asked for your phone version....
Phones that i listed are all phones that i tryed (both with better or worst camera quality) so please take it easy....

antonio.talamo said:
Really I have no problem with the camera..... maybe I'm not a photography expert, but also when my friends looks at my pictures they found them very good....
it is for this that I asked for your phone version....
Phones that i listed are all phones that i tryed (both with better or worst camera quality) so please take it easy....
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well I do agree with nobooya, the camera is the downside. even when I change the camera xml file.
If you are using this phone for everything except using the camera, this phone is really good.
but if you do taking picture most of the time, you probably can get G2,
at the end, of course if you can get this less than $200, I think it worth the money

I bought the Galaxy SIII. Thanks for answering
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Queries before buying

Hello Prowd G3 Owners,
How are you all?
I was wondering to buy this beautiful phone, but I thought to ask you owners two things which are bothering me very much.
1. Battery Issues. Presently I use S2 and will be switching to G3, If I am getting better battery backup. i dont know, I have read mixed views about battery from websites, so I wanted your personalized views on battery. My usage = When I dont use, I rarely picks up the phone, just to check text messages. But When I use it, I make sure the usage is heavy(Games mostly, or hours of chatting, minimal browsing though).
So kindly assist in this matter.
2. Will there be any need of ROM changing? Presently I am using CM11 on my s2 as I was fed up with touchwiz(yuck),
Even if your answer is yes, then I still not see any development in this sector as compared to other competitors?
3. If you had the opportunity to choose any other phone, what would that be (with similar g3 specs, you can choose g3 also )?
4. Does Quickcircle case provides impact protection?
5. Does LG causes any hassles if you want to replace your damaged screen under one-time screen replacement scheme?
I thank you in advance,
Neeraj.

kyuubisiddhanth said:
Hello Prowd G3 Owners,
How are you all?
I was wondering to buy this beautiful phone, but I thought to ask you owners two things which are bothering me very much.
1. Battery Issues. Presently I use S2 and will be switching to G3, If I am getting better battery backup. i dont know, I have read mixed views about battery from websites, so I wanted your personalized views on battery. My usage = When I dont use, I rarely picks up the phone, just to check text messages. But When I use it, I make sure the usage is heavy(Games mostly, or hours of chatting, minimal browsing though).
So kindly assist in this matter.
Standby time on the LG G3 is immensely good. As you can see from my signature one of my previous phones was the LG G2 and that was the king of battery life for me, both stand by and regular usage. I've been using the G3 for some time now and the battery life matches the G2 which in itself is impressive considering the higher resolution screen. At first i was a bit disappointed but it took a few days/cycles for it to settle.
For instance, on days i get to work at 10am, usually have 2 email accounts pooling every hour, Google services all auto-syncing (Gmail, Calendar, Drive, Keep, Photos backup, etc), Whatsapp, BBM, Weather every 3 hours, etc, i'm usually still at 90% by 2 pm when i go for break. Kill it quite a bit on break with news reading, games, web etc, and still in the 70's when i knock of at 6pm. Kill it some more on the train ride home and in the low 60's by 7.30pm.
2. Will there be any need of ROM changing? Presently I am using CM11 on my s2 as I was fed up with touchwiz(yuck),
Even if your answer is yes, then I still not see any development in this sector as compared to other competitors?
I've always been of the opinion that the best ROM is always stock rooted, and that's what i run on mine. The stock LG G3 ROM is just fine and runs really good. I freeze whatever bloat i don't care for with Titanium Backup. As luck would have it, bootloader unlock (and hence custom recovery needed to flash custom ROMS, if that's your thing) just became available for the LG G3 device-wide. So have at it when the ROMS start flooding in.
3. If you had the opportunity to choose any other phone, what would that be (with similar g3 specs, you can choose g3 also )?
By far, the Sony Z3 or Z3 Compact. Solid battery life, water proof, great camera, etc. Always wanted Sony Xperia devices but sadly they have a phobia for Sprint as a carrier. Nexus 6 only if it was 5.2 inches or less, Moto X 2014 only if it had a better battery (only 100mAh more than 2013 model, yet bigger 5"+ 1080p screen ) and camera. I have the Moto X 2013 currently as well, impressive, but terrible camera and battery could be better.
4. Does Quickcircle case provides impact protection?
Have the case, but don't use it (got it free, definitely wouldn't have paid for it anyway). Like any other case covering your phone it's something that would save it from scratches and nicks and dings if your phone fell out your hands and was otherwise naked. I personally don't like it and use another case.
5. Does LG causes any hassles if you want to replace your damaged screen under one-time screen replacement scheme?
Not sure/don't know about this specifically.
I thank you in advance,
Neeraj.
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If you can find a good price on it, go for it.

1. I have a similar use case as yours, and I've never had any issues with battery so far. I get through a day pretty easily with screen on times of 5-6 hours which is good enough.
2. Stock ROM with minor root based improvements is quite decent with not much lag. I've used Touchwiz before and I find LG stock UI much better than Touchwiz. Ofcourse, fully functional CM & AOSP would be far better and I plan to switch to it immediately when available. The bootloader has only just been bypassed so ROM dev will kick up soon.
3. HTC One m8 or Nexus 6 (depending on how big it actually feels on hand). But I had that choice with M8 while going for the G3 so that's my take on it.
4. Yes and No. Depends on where the impact occurs. The cutout on front leaves that area of screen damage prone but the back is pretty well covered. A little less than a proper case though since the Quick Circle case essentially replaces the back cover.
5. Not sure about that. Thankfully I've not had to deal with them regarding this & hopefully I won't have to.

Thank you.
LordLugard said:
If you can find a good price on it, go for it.
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Here prices at online retailers is around 34k after all discounts. That's best in terms of spec/cost ratio.
Also LG India giving free 6 month insurance i guess, circle case and discount on lg g watch worth 10000 INR.
Also can you please post your gaming experience in words, or any performance grudge you hold against g3.
I know no phone is perfect, but I'd like to weigh my options here.
if4ct0r said:
1. I have a similar use case as yours, and I've never had any issues with battery so far. I get through a day pretty easily with screen on times of 5-6 hours which is good enough.
Please tell me more about your experience of gaming on g3? Is it better, worse, or average. I do plan to use this phone for atleast 4 years, if I buy it. Hence, I hope it does not get outdated. What are your views on this? (Know H/W wise it might be, but still my s2 works like a charm on CM11 and is able to play asphalt 8 flawlessly, though on low settings. )
2. Stock ROM with minor root based improvements is quite decent with not much lag. I've used Touchwiz before and I find LG stock UI much better than Touchwiz. Ofcourse, fully functional CM & AOSP would be far better and I plan to switch to it immediately when available. The bootloader has only just been bypassed so ROM dev will kick up soon.
Ohh Ok..
3. HTC One m8 or Nexus 6 (depending on how big it actually feels on hand). But I had that choice with M8 while going for the G3 so that's my take on it.
N6 is quite costly as compared to other nexus devices. Although, it is for the specs its offering, I personally dont feel that s801 soc will be outdated soon enough. One M8 is big, specially those front speakers, added to its physical area. I personally dont like on-screen buttons, so was less oriented towards m8.
4. Yes and No. Depends on where the impact occurs. The cutout on front leaves that area of screen damage prone but the back is pretty well covered. A little less than a proper case though since the Quick Circle case essentially replaces the back cover.
Thanks for the info.
5. Not sure about that. Thankfully I've not had to deal with them regarding this & hopefully I won't have to.
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As for gaming, no complaints here. Handles anything i've thrown at it, Leo's Fortune, Boxtrolls, Manuganu, Skyforce, to name a few.

kyuubisiddhanth said:
Here prices at online retailers is around 34k after all discounts. That's best in terms of spec/cost ratio.
Also LG India giving free 6 month insurance i guess, circle case and discount on lg g watch worth 10000 INR.
Also can you please post your gaming experience in words, or any performance grudge you hold against g3.
I know no phone is perfect, but I'd like to weigh my options here.
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1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.

if4ct0r said:
1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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Yea, I was thinking the same but N6 is approximated to cost ~42K INR. While G3 is ~8k less.
My first bike costed 49k. So I dont want to go beyond 35k for a phone as of now. I hope you understand my conundrum.

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As for gaming, no complaints here. Handles anything i've thrown at it, Leo's Fortune, Boxtrolls, Manuganu, Skyforce, to name a few.
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1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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Is there any real user review of the device as whole. (Not of tech sites) on youtube or blogs??
Thanks for help again.

Why so much G3 hate

Hey all
Just picked up my New unlocked G3 today.. and man, I love it. Amazing screen.. awesome camera, even the 1 Amp speaker is nice and ringtone loud and sounds great for a phone but when I was buying it, the sales assistant was suggesting a Xperia Z3, iPhone 6 or even a Z2.... anything except a G3.
On aski9ng him why.. he said theyre just cheap and plasticky (clearly he hasnt used a Samsung) and they break down alot. I know LG have had some issues in the past, like all mobile developers... but is it really necessary to bash the G3. The reason Im writing this is because this isnt the first time Ive heard this about the G3, so.. can someone share what seems to be the problem with them and why some people like bashing it.
Cheers
Ps... So far... I think my G3 was worth every penny and its built really well

As a user coming from a g2 who managed to destroy the g2's display i would say the only thing i expected more from was fluidity. The g2 felt much snappier. Thst is my only complaint so far. It could do better in that department. however with lollipop coming soon for the g3 i expect all of thst to be fixed and for my g3 to be much faster. Apart from that it is a great phone and i do not regret buying it one bit.
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So more than likely the sales assistant was trying to get a bonus by trying to get you to buy those phones. They get a sales bonus if they sell you certain phones and I don't think the G3 is a part of that right now.
I bash my G3 because LG allowed for AT&T to take features out of the phone to meet their needs. They took out Qi wireless charging and replaced it with the much more expensive PMA because they have a contract with Duracell. They took out the FM radio cause they could and they put stupid bloatware on it.
The G3 itself is a great phone and while it loses some features from the G2, example being the light up back buttons, they do a lot of things right for a flagship phone. But the G3 has issues because LG will not unlock their bootloader so developers have to find back entry ways to get new roms on it, unlike Samusng or HTC. The phone also has a throttling issue that does not allow for G3 users to get the best performance out of their phone.
Personally, I love my G3, but I can see why people sold theirs. If I could I would get the new Nexus 6 instead just for the better developer support, but I don't have that kind of money so I'll make do with what I have.

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So more than likely the sales assistant was trying to get a bonus by trying to get you to buy those phones. They get a sales bonus if they sell you certain phones and I don't think the G3 is a part of that right now.
I bash my G3 because LG allowed for AT&T to take features out of the phone to meet their needs. They took out Qi wireless charging and replaced it with the much more expensive PMA because they have a contract with Duracell. They took out the FM radio cause they could and they put stupid bloatware on it.
The G3 itself is a great phone and while it loses some features from the G2, example being the light up back buttons, they do a lot of things right for a flagship phone. But the G3 has issues because LG will not unlock their bootloader so developers have to find back entry ways to get new roms on it, unlike Samusng or HTC. The phone also has a throttling issue that does not allow for G3 users to get the best performance out of their phone.
Personally, I love my G3, but I can see why people sold theirs. If I could I would get the new Nexus 6 instead just for the better developer support, but I don't have that kind of money so I'll make do with what I have.
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I can understand as a user why your frustrated about the bootloader and Rom issues and yeah, I can see why they work on commission.. its just plain annoying when someone tramples all over a phone your really wanting to spend your cash on.
The nexus 6 does look nice, but for me.. I buy a phone for the multimedia experience, so the 4K video, bigger quadHD screen (Im a little Short sighted) and 24/96 audio processor sell it for me. I tried the One M8, but the camera was just too over-exposed and cropping wasnt great (nothing to do with the ulta-Px btw). So I settled on the G3, which, so far, is nice.
I had a G2 and it was great, but the speaker volume was too low, missed a few calls, plus I only had the 16GB model as the 32GB is hard to get in UK.. so space was always an issue as well
Will you get the Nexus 6?

It gets hot, it has lower battery life than its predecessor, the QHD screen is a tiny bit better than FHD, but drains the battery 2x faster, the default processor thermal control script is too restrictive, and slows it down for anything (thus induces lag), specially when the screen heats up. Oh, and the screen heats up when at full brightness. And it's more locked than a nun
but that's all what's bad about it. Then it got removeable batteries, splendid button placement, great color fidelity, stunning camera that shoots pew pew, wireless charging, SD card support, loud and clear speaker, thin bezels, great front camera angle, fast processor, great price, big battery, tap to wake, excellent stock ROM, wireless charger included, quick update yadda yadda yadda.
I guess the sales assistant needed to sell some Sony and Apple to meet his month sales. Maybe G3 gets sold easily, thus he need to focus on those devices first (which, also, I guess they have a higher price tag) then sell the G3 later.
LG G3 costs the same as a Galaxy S4 here in Brazil. A G2 costs not much more than a ... Moto G.
They're not quite as popular as Moto G or S4 but hey.. people aren't bright.

Personally I love the g3. Had it only for one week and I think k it's great. Very fast, screen is amazing and I find hardly any lag.
If you can believe it I came for a note 4 to g3. I found the note 4 lagged in certain areas, Touchwiz while improved from my Note 3, is still annoying, and many of Samsung features are gimmicky to me.
Only thing I dislike about the G3 is the horrible battery life but that's easily changed.
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I know LG have had some issues in the past, like all mobile developers... but is it really necessary to bash the G3. The reason Im writing this is because this isnt the first time Ive heard this about the G3, so.. can someone share what seems to be the problem with them and why some people like bashing it.
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My comments are not misleading, I just shared my impression from playing extensively with both and mind you I'm deciding between G3 & M8 and I do think that G3 is a great device, but yours and that other guy's comments are misleading, defensive & mostly lies
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Maybe yours are not misleading but far too many comments are misleading and simple FUD
G3 is dim but if 100% brightness, u can read it oudoors
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- Dim display (400 nits vs 500 nits on M8 and Nexus 5)
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when it warms up, so considering the display is dim it's s**** that it does this
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I had the g3 and already sold it for that reason..too dim **** colours
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So it's that dim uh? Every reviewers says it struggles outdoors
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screen. It's really nice, and using the photos provided in the G3 it looks great. But dim. Really dim...it's not only the brightness/contrast, even the colors felt dim
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I was worried about reading from someone that after starting and using his G3 for the first time, 2 minutes later, the screen dimmed and didnt let him increase it because the phone was overheating.
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dim display, lag and brightness level issue when overheating are deal breakers for me
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It's the second time today that I read that the brightness in the G3 at 100% is the same as in the S3, and it's really worrying, since I have the S3 and I want my next device to have MUCH more brightness.
The S3 is known to have one of the worst brightness at 100% ever!
If the G3 is the same then it means nothing has improved in 2 years!! I've read in this thread at least 4 people say the screen is dim and not bright enough! 4 in one day!
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Still waiting for mine to be delivered. But I played around with it a couple of days ago (quote) and was a bit disappointed. I compared it to my S3 and found it real dim while other people say it's way clearer/brighter.
The G3 I tested wasn't anything near bright/clear. Colors was pale and I fund it to be dim overall. Definitely made me believe that it shouldn't perform well in sunlight. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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I really like my G3, but this overheating stuff, to the point the phone auto dims the screen is ridiculous
I'm aware I can disable the auto dimming but it still concerns me
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people are saying it is auctually dim gets hot quickly...etc etc..AAARRGGGHHH
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but the overheating issue really puts me off this phone. There is also that forced dimming "feature" by LG
The screen gets very warm and uncomfortable to make/receive calls after 30 minutes of use (WiFi, web browser, email, music, camera but no gaming!) - unless you live in Alaska
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I'm also concerned about the screen dimming/throttling. I roll 100% brightness on my phones.
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im a bit of a gamer to pass the time, favourites being 8 Ball Pool and Asphalt 8 - within 5 mins of playing each game, the screen is dimming, the device getting very hot to touch around the camera
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sharpening only on dimmed screen or very dark areas (probably to increase readability since it actually helps)
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I felt anything below 100% dim...
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I tested the Att and VZW version and were dim until getting past 60%. It took 80% to look comparable to other devices
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It was slow and laggy and yes it was dim in sunlight,dimmer than other flagships
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Exaaaaaaactly that's what I thought, damn man what a disaster of a phone...full brightness on the regular to get a decent display... Such a waste of a 2k screen..
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Indoors you will be fine, but when you are outdoors on bright days it might become a pain.
Other than that the screen seemed kinda dull next to the Z2, but it wasn't as bad as the nexus 5 screen, maybe changing the theme would fix this. The sharpness was incredible though but honestly I would pick the z2 or htc M8 display over this any day.
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Those are what I found here just concerning so called G3 display being dim. After reading such FUD and BS too many people just won't even go to the store to bother themselves judge phone by their own eyes. Why bother if G3 is simply dim, way dimmer than competitors, based on SOOOO many honest opinions out there?
Those kind of FUD and misleading comments make impression to some credulous people that G3 is not only can't be a competitor to HTC, Sony & Samsung but it even is not worth being named a flagship in the first place. And then those ppl rush to FB and advise their online and real friends what to choose
I also tested the 32 European version comparing it to my s3. In my case the g3 was visibly brighter.
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So far I'm very pleased with my nordic version of the G3. The screen is not as dim as I feared, after reading some mixed reviews about it.
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there are some people here that have the phone, right in front of them, telling you their opinions but instead you're choosing to spit your dummy out because this one review you read that said the phone gets hot or the screen is dim
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there are some people here that have the phone, right in front of them, telling you their opinions but instead you're choosing to spit your dummy out because this one review you read that said the phone gets hot or the screen is dim
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Do not worry, it is far brighter than the s3 at 100%. I have both lying in front of me as of right now
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i still have my s3 here beside LG G3.
using chrome on both, went to google.com
G3 100% definitely is brighter than s3's 100%.
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G3 display is not dim, but takes a higher percent to get as bright as the S5 and G2 and not as bright at 100%
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The brightness is simply brilliant! The Z2 has a very dim display. I use it on auto-mode at 100% and it still looks dim to me. On the G3, I use it on auto-mode at 70% and it looks beautiful!
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The screen is bright alright, maybe a tad 'washed out' but not dim.
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I have my auto brightness set at 20% and have absolutely no issues with seeing anything on the screen. Outdoors, I have to boost the brightness level, but indoors 20% is easily visible.
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no overheating, no dimmed display, all radios, all google services active, auto sync etc etc shortly everything is working as it would, meaning flawlessly
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Now I'm definitely 100% not getting this phone, you know what pattern I noticed, everyone that claims they have the phone doesn't answer the most asked question... How is it in sunlight??!!!!!!!!!!! You base your buying decisions on one person's opinion? In sunlight? I can answer that: there is negligible differences between the HTC m8 and the g3.
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The screen is decent enough in sunlight. I thought it was def better than my M8 though.
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All in all impressed so far my doubts have vanished for the moment although it is 100% brightness is fine for me..Lag??? what lag???
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But then there are comments which contradict and demolish those FUDs
And by quoting them I become a liar, yes it is. Surely
And than read whole topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772242

I bought a G3 last month and it was a good decision. The only flaw i found was a bit of lag going from homescreen to the menu but thats all. The brightness is no problem for me and max brightness i use is at 65%... Best of all is that its Futureproof.

I don't get it either, the only complaint i have is a poor sound card/processing which makes music sound flat, but after rooting i installed viper4android and thats all i need. I used to be a heavy modder/flashaholic but i dont think that is needed any longer with current android phones. My g3 has always been snappy and has a great signal.
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I have a G3 and love it. I honestly would not trade it for any other flagship phone.
Literally the only negative thing I can say about the G3 is that I wish the speaker was on the front of the phone. But I realize that would make the chin bigger which would lead to a larger phone too and I really like the size of the G3. So I understand LGs decision, but it is the only bad thing I can say about the phone!

I love mine also. It's a great form factor and the only complaints are it's not running vanilla something. But I knew that when I bought it. And so far not to much of lg's ui is all that bad. Compared to htc and Samsung I like this stock ui way more. Tweakbox is a life saver. Now I can relax and be patient for Dev to play out.

I admit I was drooling a bit over a nexus 6, not a fan of amoled but wanted to see it with my eyes then decide. Now that we have aosp based ROMs for the lg3 I'm more than happy to stick with my g3. Running liquid smooth and my battery literally doubled when it comes to sot.

So much hate cause we have a lot of whiney people that comment around here.... Complainers .... Annoying .... Must I go on.... The device is amazing and people need to realize that and if they don't like it then quit posting hate comments on our one and only XDA and move on . please and thank you cheerz:beer::thumbup:
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I have had all sorts of devices and was going to get note 4... However 10n Rom is so fast and no lag what so ever. The screen compared to Note 4 is just as good in my opinion. The Cyanmod Rom on this phone flys and antu Mark of 42800. Its a phone that costs less then most flagships and looks great with no bezels. Its the one I'm going to keep this year.

Coming from the Sprint LG Optimus G I have some experience with LG phones and I have noticed one big similarity between it and the G3
LG Phones are finicky.
With both the lgog and the g3 what worked well on one might not work well on another, even if they are the same model variant on the same carrier running the same kernel, rom, etc. Some people report horrible battery drain, overheating, lag, etc. While others have no such experience. A lot of this(I think) is how people use and mod their phone(or lack thereof).
They are also not for people who want something perfect out of the box. With both I had to do LOTS of tweaks between hidden menu, settings, build.prop, etc.
But with all that being said I love this phone. I've only ever had the phone get hot if it was charging while playing something like Grand Theft Auto for more than 30 minutes - even then not a single random reboot since I bought it in September. Had some initial lag but switching launcher, keyboard, deleting bloat, resetting thermal settings and a bunch of other stuff, this thing is like butter. And as for battery life, my record between charges was 64 hours and change with 8 hours screen on time. Again, that took a lot of work and I'm mindful of what is running when it isn't needed, plus numerous build.prop tweaks. The screen is amazing, the sound is great with some tweaks to the media_profile.xml file, the camera takes stunning photographs - I could definitely go on.
I think apple is the auschwitz of computing but I give them credit where it's due. Their products are streamlined and fluid right out of the box but you give up a ton of control in the process. For people who like to tinker and have full control over their devices, nothing beats android(or linux for that matter). And LG makes quality hardware but their software still needs some work. Luckily we can do it ourselves thanks to this community.

Very happy with mine coming up 2 months, still blows people away myself included when they see the screen

Anyone upgraded from the g4? What did you get that was better?

I wish the g5 had better battery life than the g4.... But it isn't looking like it so far.
Maybe there'll be an extended battery friend.
Still hoping for a bigger 5.5 model like the 2 paired galaxy's and iPhones

well ,right now i'm not looking to upgrade from G4 . Is still an amazing phone ,so far i had no issues and i hope it wont be (due to bootloops problem) ,currently with S/N 602.
I don't see any benefits to upgrade to g5 or s7/s7 edge. I still don't see the point on doing that ,if we are talking in terms of perfomance /camera /etc. I will be waiting Lg G6 ,maybe next year i will upgrade not sure yet .

I'll be tuning in on HTC tomorrow, as that is the most likely candidate for my upgrade. I'm out of the LG game. The G4 was a mess and I'm not fond of the G5.
I'd also like to check out a Huawei Mate 8 but that is a little hard to come by here.

In my case.... I haven't had any issues at all
mine is a h815 sn506
Would gladly keep it if I could be sure that it wouldn't boot loop
V10 is almost the price of a new s7 here otherwise I would have bought one.
The s7 edge is impressive but I really though the screen curve is gimmicky and makes the phone unnecessarily fragile.
Would get a mate 8 if it was easy to get my hands on one

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I wish the g5 had better battery life than the g4.... But it isn't looking like it so far.
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Surprisingly it does thanks to 6.0.1
when we get it then the extra battery on the G4 will surpass it.
Still hoping for a bigger 5.5 model like the 2 paired galaxy's and iPhones
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In my case.... I haven't had any issues at all
mine is a h815 sn506
Would gladly keep it if I could be sure that it wouldn't boot loop
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If it does there is warranty but am suprised you have doubts as your poll thread pretty much ended them for me
V10 is almost the price of a new s7 here otherwise I would have bought one
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v11 ?

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Surprisingly it does thanks to 6.0.1
when we get it then the extra battery on the G4 will surpass it.
heard something about a mini.
If it does there is warranty but am suprised you have doubts as your poll thread pretty much ended them for me
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Thanks for the sentiment
I have a euro model (815) but actually from .... There is no officially licensed lg reseller or service center here.
So if I have any issues my g4 will end up being a brick most likely.
I actually depend on it for work.
I like this phone as it's like the traditional androids with the removable battery and SD.
I've also taken around 2400 photos with the main camera in that time..... As I think the product so good that my mirrorless camera stays at home most times now.
I also think that sealed batteries make devices "disposable" forcing you to inevitably upgrade and also continuing to growing e-rubbish. It's really sad to me that most consumers accept that sealed batteries are more the norm than the exception now.
No LG here in Trinidad officially but there are official Apple, and Samsung stores.
I wish the Android would just make the same phone all regions so we wouldn't have this problem with matching parts and regional warranties. I honestly don't understand why there are so many different model numbers of just the g4 alone

I've gone to the GS7. I did enjoy the G4 but the S7 feels like a massive step forward.

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I've gone to the GS7. I did enjoy the G4 but the S7 feels like a massive step forward.
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I wish you a device without lag ,cause i know if you buy samsung after 3-4 months of use cause of touchwiz you get lag on phone and a factory reset doesn't help at all . Anyway ,post some pictures taken with s7 i'm curious . Danke

Haven't taken many photos just yet but from what I have taken I wouldn't say they look hugely better than the G4. The amoled screen makes them look better on the device but on a computer it's much of a muchness. The speaker is pretty pointless on the S7 too but that's the price you pay for IP68. Day-to-day performance and amoled alone are worth the upgrade to me. I do miss the clip tray though.
I used to be in the same boat about Touchwiz but it's come a long way since the awful days of the Captivate or even the SII

Reviews show G4 and G5 camera outperform S7

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Samsung has issued a new update that improves things a little. What firmware did this reviewer use ?
What resolution was S7 using ? 12MP or 9MP. If you want to do 16:9 then s7 is at a disadvantage. I don't know why they changed the aspect (!) The S6 was 16MP for same aspect as the G5.
The G5 has improved on details so it does not surprise me much. But i prefer to see image data than collages.
There are two advantages that will be useful to S7 users. As a convenience. Slowest shutter is 1/4 whereas on the G4 it is 1/9 with night shot.
And using a faster shutter speed with flash means you can freeze people better. Both with point & click.
To do this on the G4/G5 or even S6/Note 5 will require manual settings. Very possible just extra steps.
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I have a euro model (815) but actually from .... There is no officially licensed lg reseller or service center here.
So if I have any issues my g4 will end up being a brick most likely.
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What is better you ask in the title ? i don't know the answer to that question other than to speculate v11. v10 was too big for me so picked the G4.
Keep your data backed up, if it happens so you won't lose much.
It takes a lot of courage to buy a phone like this when others are more available.
In India LG uses a franchise model. I had to call up several shops on their website just to find a seller that had a demo device. It took a trip into the suburbs to finally find it. Suprisingly not available in a number of big box stores unlike samsung or apple.
LG did not spend much on publicity of the G4 compared to G3. For one month when G3 came out i got LG ads on YT and was so sick of it.
I actually depend on it for work.
I like this phone as it's like the traditional androids with the removable battery and SD.
I've also taken around 2400 photos with the main camera in that time..... As I think the product so good that my mirrorless camera stays at home most times now.
I also think that sealed batteries make devices "disposable" forcing you to inevitably upgrade and also continuing to growing e-rubbish. It's really sad to me that most consumers accept that sealed batteries are more the norm than the exception now.
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Fully agree with everything you said there.
In fact there is a growing trend to show that a bigger sealed battery can be as good as two replaceable batteries. S7e for instance. To make replaceable batteries obsolete. If one increases the size of the replaceble battery then there is no chance.
Sealed battery has a way to go on android. Look at the ifixit repairability table.
The G4/G5 score 8.
What does the iphone with its sealed battery get ? 7
What does the S6/S7 get ? 3 (!)
htc one ? 2 (!)
Not only are these harder to repair they are also more expensive to replace the battery so you have to lose them in two years.
It does not stop there amoled is shorter lived than LCD. Loses brightness over time. Not so with LCD.
No LG here in Trinidad officially but there are official Apple, and Samsung stores.
I wish the Android would just make the same phone all regions so we wouldn't have this problem with matching parts and regional warranties. I honestly don't understand why there are so many different model numbers of just the g4 alone
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Google does it with nexus already. You would think its easier this way. One phone for the whole world.

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Yeah, I'm going to need to see EXIF for that. Otherwise I call BS. I can take a few pics with my D750 and (crudely) label it "S7" and suddenly "reviews" will show the S7 as being the best camera on a phone ever. I have a G4, and under NO circumstance 100% crop looks like that (which I am assuming that is 100% crop).
Please stop the fud.
I quickly did my own "review" and I'd like you to guess which is the G4, and which is the S7e. Images attached. EDIT - Both are at high jpg quality auto mode.
Smartphone cameras these days are good, and not one is very clearly better than the other - and none of them will look pleasing at 100% crop. If you want better photo quality, invest in something not attached to a phone.:good:

Source is here and you can find a bigger discussion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4dmvku/comparison_shot_of_galaxy_s7_vs_lg_g4_both_in/
Both cameras are good, s7 shoots faster (2x faster), g4 is more clear at 100 zoom.

From what I've seen, nothing really worth the upgrade from g4. We still have Motorola and oneplus to look forward to but it will be very difficult to get those devices where I live so that isn't very exciting prospect. Having said that, I just grabbed the 6p with a substantial discount and I'd consider that an upgrade. If u love xda and everything root, nothing beats a nexus and the 6p is hand down the best nexus ever made

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Source is here and you can find a bigger discussion:
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Both cameras are good, s7 shoots faster (2x faster), g4 is more clear at 100 zoom.
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This is still fanboy fud. You first claim a 'review' and then link to reddit? Attached are images shot using the G4 and S7e in manual mode @ ISO 50 1/6th shutter auto WB jpeg fine. The S7e isn't even close to looking as bad as this nonsense from reddit. In fact, I can't even call either shot I just did with either camera better than the other. There's a limit on how good a picture will be with such a small sensor.
Not to mention that the G4 in auto mode will never shoot at those settings- I've already demonstrated that with my previous post shooting in auto mode with the samples I attached.
I like my G4's camera a lot. The G4 definitely does a better job of auto white balance, but at 100% (and greater) NO smartphone camera will preserve that amount of detail. That is DSLR territory - with good glass and a larger sensor.
I've wasted enough of my time on this...
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Don't let the quality of a camera sensor determine what your next phone is. Almost every new flagship phone these days (since the last gen anyway) is more than adequate. Go by what you want in features, root/roms, etc.

anactoraaron said:
This is still fanboy fud. You first claim a 'review' and then link to reddit? Attached are images shot using the G4 and S7e in manual mode @ ISO 50 1/6th shutter auto WB jpeg fine. The S7e isn't even close to looking as bad as this nonsense from reddit. In fact, I can't even call either shot I just did with either camera better than the other. There's a limit on how good a picture will be with such a small sensor.
Not to mention that the G4 in auto mode will never shoot at those settings- I've already demonstrated that with my previous post shooting in auto mode with the samples I attached.
I like my G4's camera a lot. The G4 definitely does a better job of auto white balance, but at 100% (and greater) NO smartphone camera will preserve that amount of detail. That is DSLR territory - with good glass and a larger sensor.
I've wasted enough of my time on this...
/on topic
Don't let the quality of a camera sensor determine what your next phone is. Almost every new flagship phone these days (since the last gen anyway) is more than adequate. Go by what you want in features, root/roms, etc.
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Denying the truth doesn't change the fact.