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Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying the LG optimos G, but some people tell me very bad things about the LG brand. Well, i want to know if the phone it's good, in questions of performace, relation in price and quality and in durabillity.
It depends for how much you can get it?
In general it's a good phone. For me the only downside is camera, which pretty ****ty.
I think LG makes great devices, but their feedback sucks. It seems to be changed since G2, but OG seems forgotten. OG is great device, fast, capable, but camera is very bad. Other aspects are almost perfect, HD for 4.7 screen is perfect, image quality is gorgeous. I would say it's definitely worth money, especially in my country where i can buy it for 200-250$.
Well, I picked a refurbished one for 200$ - great value for the money.
Now it's running KitKat (PA), was surprisingly easy to install.
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adwienc said:
I think LG makes great devices, but their feedback sucks. It seems to be changed since G2, but OG seems forgotten. OG is great device, fast, capable, but camera is very bad. Other aspects are almost perfect, HD for 4.7 screen is perfect, image quality is gorgeous. I would say it's definitely worth money, especially in my country where i can buy it for 200-250$.
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I saw a video and the camera seems very capable for my needs. Thank you for the feedback... I was scared because it's a low price compared to the specs.
Its low price is due to its age. The device is from late 2012 which easily beats some brands phones from late 2013 and even 2014. By the way, it's a flagship phone and is not forgotten. Kitkat is on the way for it. check my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2652276&page=8
It's worth every cent
eskorpiao112 said:
Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying the LG optimos G, but some people tell me very bad things about the LG brand. Well, i want to know if the phone it's good, in questions of performace, relation in price and quality and in durabillity.
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I've owned quite a few smartphones, but have never been as pleased with any as with the OG. What I wish it did have though is FM Radio and an IR blaster, but in terms of performance, this is a beast and rightly so because it was the most powerful smartphone released in 2012.
To be honest, there is few things that really irritate me.
- one of the worst cameras I've ever seen, which should be at least average since it was LG's flagship smartphone. In addition to that lens gets scratches really easily which causes photos to be even worse.
- no 5V output through usb (which means no otg without external power)
- really bad sound recording with microphone (it's ok with normal voice, but anything louder makes distortion).
And because of those, I regret buying this device. It's true, it has nice SoC for it's price, but for me it's too much, dual core would be just enough to handle android without any problem. As for durability, it's rather more vulnerable to drops than other phones because it's got glass in the back. Mine phone doesn't look like new, although I keep it in case all the time.
The best thing about this phone? Definitely screen. Is it worth buying? In my opinion - no, I'd rather have nice camera and/or microphone than powerful SoC, but it really depends what you expect from your phone.
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To be honest, there is few things that really irritate me.
- one of the worst cameras I've ever seen, which should be at least average since it was LG's flagship smartphone. In addition to that lens gets scratches really easily which causes photos to be even worse.
- no 5V output through usb (which means no otg without external power)
- really bad sound recording with microphone (it's ok with normal voice, but anything louder makes distortion).
And because of those, I regret buying this device. It's true, it has nice SoC for it's price, but for me it's too much, dual core would be just enough to handle android without any problem. As for durability, it's rather more vulnerable to drops than other phones because it's got glass in the back. Mine phone doesn't look like new, although I keep it in case all the time.
The best thing about this phone? Definitely screen. Is it worth buying? In my opinion - no, I'd rather have nice camera and/or microphone than powerful SoC, but it really depends what you expect from your phone.
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Well dude, i apreciate your opinnion. It helped me. And i won't buy this phone. I don't wanna buy a phone only because his cpu, ram and screen... The other things are realy bad for the opinion of the guys here. And i want a phone with a good camera (not that high quality but a quality that make a good picture) and i just want a phone with a good battery, good cpu (i want to buy a Galaxy SIV Mini, and he have a dual core 1,7 ghz krait) and i want a phone with good features and with a good compatibity for headphones(i bought a Steelseries Flux in-ear and my old sony xperia arc s didn't suport it. Now because of that i'm using a GIO because it's nice to change the rom, don't have blocks and Samsung suports almost all . So it's because i don't want Sony. The phones of sony are realy bad for their price and the system it's realy ugly. Well, thanks for the feedback, i won't buy it like i sad :highfive:
Good camera is only on Nokia devices. Can you find a pleasing device in Nokia phones? I doubt. You still don't know about camera quality after 4.4.2 update. And the eco mode which turns two cpu cores off is there in the device which is so nice. Yet again, As you wish.
I bought ,new F180L (Korea version) for about $180 half month ago.It is a perfect phone for me, really faster than LG P880 ,because of 2GB RAM,Now my system is native f180L V20T KDZ Korean ROM,still perfect,and battery is very good ,I can screen on 5 Hours for a day with brightness 82% automatic.but the only problem is SMS has 80 characters limited,not 140 characters,Who can help me ....
cccn said:
I bought ,new F180L (Korea version) for about $180 half month ago.It is a perfect phone for me, really faster than LG P880 ,because of 2GB RAM,Now my system is native f180L V20T KDZ Korean ROM,still perfect,and battery is very good ,I can screen on 5 Hours for a day with brightness 82% automatic.but the only problem is SMS has 80 characters limited,not 140 characters,Who can help me ....
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It's related to your network.
I think it's wonderful despite its downsides
Hi there,
I just got this phone after some research. I was considering Sony Xperia Z, Galaxy S3 and this one. All of them within the same price range due to they are all now kind of obsolete, and despite its not-so-good camera I got the Optimus G. To be honest with you, I was going to buy a Moto G in the first place, but although I know some people who are quite happy with that, I think it's quite low range still.
To me, camera is not the main thing of a phone. Of course, I can't always take my DSLR with me, so at some point, having a phone with a decent camera is important. But I am going to use the phone mainly for Internet, apps, and so on... and I appreciate a good design as well, so having an S3 just because its camera is better?... no thanks. I've used an S3 for a little while (a couple of weeks or so) and I didn't see it as a huge step forward (but that's my impression). Lots of people have an S3, and it's not that I want to stand out, but I want to buy a phone that I like.
The camera is definitely its worst feature, but it's not that bad. It can take better pictures than previous generations, the problem is (in my view) that it's not as good as other high end devices. And technically speaking, the dreadful megapixel war, it happens on digital cameras as well. When you put a lot of pixels in a tiny sensor it sometimes creates more problems than benefit as each individual pixel may create electrical noise that will be translated into more "grain". And regarding videos, to me the most annoying thing is the micro-stuttering that sometimes happens. Maybe the bandwith needed for processing is too much for the encoder...
Anyway, so far I'm quite happy!
(BTW, there's a mod that apparently improves video/stills quality, although I couldn't install it properly on mine)
Regards
Congrats Dadivx! I also had the same choices as you did + nexus 4 + G2 16g! I chose G and I'm quite happy with it ^_^. I can't find anyone not pleased with it. Catching 4.4.2 wikk add to the pleasure for sure.
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eskorpiao112 said:
Well dude, i apreciate your opinnion. It helped me. And i won't buy this phone. I don't wanna buy a phone only because his cpu, ram and screen... The other things are realy bad for the opinion of the guys here. And i want a phone with a good camera (not that high quality but a quality that make a good picture) and i just want a phone with a good battery, good cpu (i want to buy a Galaxy SIV Mini, and he have a dual core 1,7 ghz krait) and i want a phone with good features and with a good compatibity for headphones(i bought a Steelseries Flux in-ear and my old sony xperia arc s didn't suport it. Now because of that i'm using a GIO because it's nice to change the rom, don't have blocks and Samsung suports almost all . So it's because i don't want Sony. The phones of sony are realy bad for their price and the system it's realy ugly. Well, thanks for the feedback, i won't buy it like i sad :highfive:
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Well I buy this phone just a month ago, true the camera not so good for 13 mp. But there's camera option to choose HDR, it helps you get better picture. For me camera not most important, because I use my phone mostly for internet, Movies and games and this OG never upset me:good:
The screen also very nice for watching movie even hd video in youtube look very crisp. That my opnion about this phone, now I should go before you call me salesman:laugh:
camera...
but...what version do you have?
I have E975 (european version) with 13 mpx camera... and photo have a really good quality... way way better if compared with phone like htc one m7, glaxy s3, galaxy note 2, xperia Z, nexus 4, nexus 5, iphone (version < 5), moto x and all the other phone before 1/2 2013......
naturally last sony, nokia with 500mpx camera, s5, iphone 5 or other newest (and much expensive) phone have better camera.... but really don't think that without magnifying glass you can appreciate them....
antonio.talamo said:
but...what version do you have?
I have E975 (european version) with 13 mpx camera... and photo have a really good quality... way way better if compared with phone like htc one m7, glaxy s3, galaxy note 2, xperia Z, nexus 4, nexus 5, iphone (version < 5), moto x and all the other phone before 1/2 2013......
naturally last sony, nokia with 500mpx camera, s5, iphone 5 or other newest (and much expensive) phone have better camera.... but really don't think that without magnifying glass you can appreciate them....
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Troll?
Sorry but people say even optimus x4 takes better pictures than our G. If it comes to camera our phone is real mistake. I know it won't have quality like normal camera, but at least in daylight it should capture some details, but it doesn't (not to mention when contrast is too big it looks awful). Photos might look good on 4,7" but not on something bigger or when you zoom in a little.
Phones you listed take the same or better pictures. Before posting stuff like this, check it earlier.
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Troll?
Sorry but people say even optimus x4 takes better pictures than our G. If it comes to camera our phone is real mistake. I know it won't have quality like normal camera, but at least in daylight it should capture some details, but it doesn't (not to mention when contrast is too big it looks awful). Photos might look good on 4,7" but not on something bigger or when you zoom in a little.
Phones you listed take the same or better pictures. Before posting stuff like this, check it earlier.
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Really I have no problem with the camera..... maybe I'm not a photography expert, but also when my friends looks at my pictures they found them very good....
it is for this that I asked for your phone version....
Phones that i listed are all phones that i tryed (both with better or worst camera quality) so please take it easy....
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Really I have no problem with the camera..... maybe I'm not a photography expert, but also when my friends looks at my pictures they found them very good....
it is for this that I asked for your phone version....
Phones that i listed are all phones that i tryed (both with better or worst camera quality) so please take it easy....
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well I do agree with nobooya, the camera is the downside. even when I change the camera xml file.
If you are using this phone for everything except using the camera, this phone is really good.
but if you do taking picture most of the time, you probably can get G2,
at the end, of course if you can get this less than $200, I think it worth the money
I bought the Galaxy SIII. Thanks for answering
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As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.
Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light
I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix
I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.
I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.
I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...
2016 is almost here and soon is the CES and I want a new phone.
Now I have SGS3.
Should I wait to see what will be in CES or just getting a new G4?
thanks guys.
I would wait for Snapdragon 820
I would wait too. The G4 is the best phone i've owned to be fair barring the S2 when it first came out, which blew me away, but next year LG should raise the bar even higher and Samsung might catch up with something that's not laggy and ugly too.
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I would wait too. The G4 is the best phone i've owned to be fair barring the S2 when it first came out, which blew me away, but next year LG should raise the bar even higher and Samsung might catch up with something that's not laggy and ugly too.
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what bar did LG raise with G4? it has a great camera, but so do iphone6 and S6..
the only other things I can think off are removable battery, sd card slot and frequent updates (which is to be expected of a flagship)..
in every other aspect, G4 lags behind competition - software, build quality - materials used, battery life, sound quality, processing power
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what bar did LG raise with G4? it has a great camera, but so do iphone6 and S6..
the only other things I can think off are removable battery, sd card slot and frequent updates (which is to be expected of a flagship)..
in every other aspect, G4 lags behind competition - software, build quality - materials used, battery life, sound quality, processing power
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I can agree that LG doesn't manufacture the best phones out there. But it's still a solid phone with some pro's and a few more con's. I've been a Samsung user all my life and decided to buy an LG after I owned a Note 4. Both phones are pretty good, but I love my LG for its SD-Card-Slot and the camera. I need a lot of space, because I have like 200 GB of music and a lot of videos. LG supports MicroSD's up to 2 TB. That's definately a big fat pro!
I don't regret leaving Samsung, but if the S7 would feature an SD-Slot I will go back to Samsung. And to answer OP's question: I'd wait, too. Wait for the LG V10, which will be released this month (think it's a nice phone and better than the G4). Don't know how long you can bear to wait, but if you like Samsung wait for the S7. Still the best smartphones regarding the design (imho). Despite all of that LG is very good, too. It's a matter of taste I guess Cheers
it's the best time because you have to think about the price also
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I can agree that LG doesn't manufacture the best phones out there. But it's still a solid phone with some pro's and a few more con's. I've been a Samsung user all my life and decided to buy an LG after I owned a Note 4. Both phones are pretty good, but I love my LG for its SD-Card-Slot and the camera. I need a lot of space, because I have like 200 GB of music and a lot of videos. LG supports MicroSD's up to 2 TB. That's definately a big fat pro!
I don't regret leaving Samsung, but if the S7 would feature an SD-Slot I will go back to Samsung. And to answer OP's question: I'd wait, too. Wait for the LG V10, which will be released this month (think it's a nice phone and better than the G4). Don't know how long you can bear to wait, but if you like Samsung wait for the S7. Still the best smartphones regarding the design (imho). Despite all of that LG is very good, too. It's a matter of taste I guess Cheers
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Thanks for yours answers .
@Follow_and_Feel I don't think there is a must different between G4 and V10. at least not something worth the extra 30%.
I think to wait for the S7 or G5 but have no clue how much is it to wait... :-|
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Thanks for yours answers .
@Follow_and_Feel I don't think there is a must different between G4 and V10. at least not something worth the extra 30%.
I think to wait for the S7 or G5 but have no clue how much is it to wait... :-|
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I think the S7 will be shipped in the first quarter of 2016 (Maybe february / March). I don't know about the G5.
The V10 has a slightly bigger screen and I personally love huge phones, but waiting is ok I think. The G5 will propably be on sale in summer and that's a long time to wait :laugh:
I don't know about your financial situation but I'd be like: Buy the G4, sell it when the G5 comes out, buy the G5
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well, am in the same boat as well. but for me since I'll be leaving my home country for a job outside, I need to buy something now so I can check it within 2-3 weeks that I've. V10 seems nice but nothing extraordinary compared to G4 and the price is high as well. So, am stuck as well on what to do
I've been going back and forth between the the Turbo 2 and the LG V10 for my next phone and one of the things that I'm torn on is the Camera. Even though the MP count on the Turbo is higher, all the "showdown's" I've seen on the camera seem to show better images coming from the V10. Do you guys think it's the Camera or the software? Have any of you tried any of the 3rd party camera software that helps get better images out of the T2?
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I've been going back and forth between the the Turbo 2 and the LG V10 for my next phone and one of the things that I'm torn on is the Camera. Even though the MP count on the Turbo is higher, all the "showdown's" I've seen on the camera seem to show better images coming from the V10. Do you guys think it's the Camera or the software? Have any of you tried any of the 3rd party camera software that helps get better images out of the T2?
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I forgot to try (stock was good for me) ProCapture. This app works the best on my old phone (Razr HD). You may also try Camera/Cinema FV-5 and A Better Camera.
I have used most of the third party apps for the turbo 2. I typically end up coming back to the stock camera app for convenience of the double twist action. Unless doing a time lapse photo or photosphere, 90% of photos taken are on the stock app. That's not to say the stock camera has downfalls, LG's photo software is infinitely better in terms of there manual modes and ability to customize the picture settings. I have taken some awesome pictures on the turbo 2, but the camera could have definitely benefitted from manual mode in certain circumstances.
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I've been going back and forth between the the Turbo 2 and the LG V10 for my next phone and one of the things that I'm torn on is the Camera. Even though the MP count on the Turbo is higher, all the "showdown's" I've seen on the camera seem to show better images coming from the V10. Do you guys think it's the Camera or the software? Have any of you tried any of the 3rd party camera software that helps get better images out of the T2?
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I absolutely hate moto's touch to shoot feature. I want to touch to focus, then push another button to shoot. For this reason I use Google Camera. No complaints at all... All pics have been stellar and my friends all love the pics I get w my camera.
That being said, I really am not a photo guy. If i take a couple pics when I am out, that is a lot for me. Someone who uses the camera more or in more diverse situations might have a different opinion. Coming from the Maxx, though, this camera is lightyears better.
that is one thing that annoyed me when playing with it in store. The inability to pick an area that should be the focus like in the LG software. The native software seems TOO simple and needs a "pro" mode.
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that is one thing that annoyed me when playing with it in store. The inability to pick an area that should be the focus like in the LG software. The native software seems TOO simple and needs a "pro" mode.
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Exactly. A lot of times I want to tell it where focus should be made. There is a "touch to focus" mode (or at least there was on previous motos), but it sucks at best
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I absolutely hate moto's touch to shoot feature. I want to touch to focus, then push another button to shoot. For this reason I use Google Camera. No complaints at all... All pics have been stellar and my friends all love the pics I get w my camera.
That being said, I really am not a photo guy. If i take a couple pics when I am out, that is a lot for me. Someone who uses the camera more or in more diverse situations might have a different opinion. Coming from the Maxx, though, this camera is lightyears better.
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The maxx got a bad rap. Sure it wasn't the best, but honestly I don't see a major difference between the two.
Will the Control focus/Exposure ring give you the choice of where you want the camera to focus, etc? I use that feature a lot.
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I'm in the same boat. Been burned by Motorola a lot of times. A lot of bad cameras and the software is still not that great. All of the reviews favor V10 camera but the experience is better on T2 since it is stock with perfect amount of customization. Maybe a little less, but it gets the job done.
One has giant battery, one has reviews that tell you that it does in a day, easily. Sometimes less than a day for V10. You have to remember that V10 is 808 vs. 810. 810 may have heating and throttle issues, but it is a superior chip and may process the pics better if you find a good camera app.
In the end, it is a toss up, IMHO. That's why I'm thinking about Note 5 too.
I will say, the discount of trading ANY smartphone in for $200 credit increases the appeal of the T2 considerably. The broken screen Thunderbolt sitting here getting me $200 off is very tempting!
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I will say, the discount of trading ANY smartphone in for $200 credit increases the appeal of the T2 considerably. The broken screen Thunderbolt sitting here getting me $200 off is very tempting!
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The decision is a no-brainer
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I will say, the discount of trading ANY smartphone in for $200 credit increases the appeal of the T2 considerably. The broken screen Thunderbolt sitting here getting me $200 off is very tempting!
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The phone is $100 off regular price on top of that (showing $524 on VZW's site). I just wiped and sent in my G2 for the $200 credit.
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The phone is $100 off regular price on top of that (showing $524 on VZW's site). I just wiped and sent in my G2 for the $200 credit.
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Right now the phone is $100 + they have the "UPGRADE" code for an extra $100 + the $200 Trade-in. I have my Thunderbolt that is 2 phones back that I cracked the screen on but it still fires up, and I have a Galaxy Nexus so I'm probably going to trade those 2 in for one for me and one for my wife. I've got a G2 but I'm keeping it to either sell it or keep as a back-up or video server (My Galaxy nexus right now acts as a link to my slingbox and netflix that I throw to my TV through Chrome so the G2 may move to that position).
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Right now the phone is $100 + they have the "UPGRADE" code for an extra $100 + the $200 Trade-in. I have my Thunderbolt that is 2 phones back that I cracked the screen on but it still fires up, and I have a Galaxy Nexus so I'm probably going to trade those 2 in for one for me and one for my wife. I've got a G2 but I'm keeping it to either sell it or keep as a back-up or video server (My Galaxy nexus right now acts as a link to my slingbox and netflix that I throw to my TV through Chrome so the G2 may move to that position).
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Thanks for the info. I was gonna sell my G2 but they aren't going for $200 on swappa these days. If I had an older phone I would have done the same though.
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I absolutely hate moto's touch to shoot feature. I want to touch to focus, then push another button to shoot.
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that is one thing that annoyed me when playing with it in store. The inability to pick an area that should be the focus like in the LG software. The native software seems TOO simple and needs a "pro" mode.
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If you enable the little focus/exposure ring in the Moto camera software, it allows you to adjust where the camera is focusing on. And since the focus itself is so fast, it's just as good as tap-to-focus.
On another note, can anybody suggest a good 3rd party app with manual mode and/or one that can shoot in raw mode? Those are the only 2 things I'm missing from the Moto camera app. Also, is it possible to set the double twist gesture to another camera app?
Afaik, Moto doesn't support the latest camera API (to get raw). Not sure is it corrected with MM.
Just testing several camera apps, unfortunately ProCapture is not supported anymore, Manual Camera (same dev) requires new API, Focal is not supported... but Open Camera works really well! And doesn't have limitation for 4K video recording. Definitely dev deserve donations
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I will say, the discount of trading ANY smartphone in for $200 credit increases the appeal of the T2 considerably. The broken screen Thunderbolt sitting here getting me $200 off is very tempting!
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I decided against the dt2 until I realized I could get it for $124 on black Friday. Had it not been for that, I'd still be happily rocking my g3 waiting for next year's phones.
Buddy just got a V10. I have the T2 and almost got a V10. The Shatterproof warranty and now added SD card swept me to the T2. And the "design a new one at any time" feature of the 64GB one. Brand new phone 12 months from now? That's cool as hell.
But I gotta say... the V10 is very nice. The camera is just SICK. Even the front facer is really nice. Very impressive. I'm still happy with my T2... I suppose. No case is really nice.
But I would certainly have been more then happy with that V10 even with the LG Bloat....
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Buddy just got a V10. I have the T2 and almost got a V10. The Shatterproof warranty and now added SD card swept me to the T2. And the "design a new one at any time" feature of the 64GB one. Brand new phone 12 months from now? That's cool as hell.
But I gotta say... the V10 is very nice. The camera is just SICK. Even the front facer is really nice. Very impressive. I'm still happy with my T2... I suppose. No case is really nice.
But I would certainly have been more then happy with that V10 even with the LG Bloat....
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I carry a LG G2 now so I'm used to the LG software and I actually disabled and hid almost all of it. If I really want, I can always use load up Nova Launcher or one of the others.
The things that draw me to the DT2 are the same things you're saying. TOUGHT phone with no need for a case and a free "refresh" at any time. The biggest things I like about LG are the camera (and the camera software) and the back buttons and tap features.
Hi everyone,
I need some advices. I have to buy a new smartphone, I had an LG G4 before but got the well known bootloop issue. It was 6 months ago.
Since then, didn't buy anything but really need one right now. So I have to choose between 2 devices: HTC 10 or LG V20. It's almost the same price.
I was an huge HTC Fan but got a lot of problems with their after sale services with my M8 and Desire Eye.
For LG, I'm really afraid of another bootloop issue with this V20.
I didn't find any comparison between these 2 flagships but I have a lot of questions.
First of all, on the video recording. On some YouTube videos, OIS on HTC 10 seems better than V20. Sounds recording seems great(if not better) also on HTC 10, or am I wrong? I really loved manual control on my previous G4 and glad that V20 got that on video recording, but is this really an advantage with this awful shaky OIS?(I hate the one on G4 and it's look like the same)
Secondly, the battery lifetime: on some reviews, I saw that V20 endurance was not so good, but how about the HTC 10?
And finally, on the headphone output: Is there an huge difference between the HTC 10 and LG V20? DAC or QuadDAC? Didn't find any comparison...
It's very hard for me to choose, it will be my daily smartphone for the next 2~3 years so I don't want to make a mistake. I love the 5.7" LG's big screen and removable battery but still love and really want to come back on HTC brand, Ultrapixel Camera render and Sense. Don't want to go for a Galaxy device....
So, if you had to choose between these 2, which one would you take and why? I'm waiting for your help and reply and thank you in advance.
1.heard some v20 user still had bootloop, but just a few
2. Photo quality is much better for HTC10, the V20 is really bad
3. Dunno about about audio quality on v20, but it said the quad DAC just upscale anything and not work in some case, at least HTC10 with the hi res headset are not bad too.
4. HTC 10 firmware make me feel it just beta quality, and if you use LG, Samsung, Nexus before you will say what the hell HTC still doing stupid things, such as very bad NFC card reading, VOLTE suddenly disappear, no RGB notification LED which can't customizable, bluetooth disconnect, not bright enough screen under sun. I can go for a long list what I hate on the 10.
I switch from Nexus 5 which had broken, so at that time I can only choose from Note 7, Pixel, 10, V20. pixel don't have OIS, V20 bad photo quality, Note 7 explosion, so I am force to choose 10 in terms for better photo quality.
If you really need a phone right now I will suggest get S8,or anything cheap such as MI and one plus. The soon release mi 6 is cheap and got 835, 6gb ram, but no ,3.5mm and only 1080p.
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1.heard some v20 user still had bootloop, but just a few
2. Photo quality is much better for HTC10, the V20 is really bad
3. Dunno about about audio quality on v20, but it said the quad DAC just upscale anything and not work in some case, at least HTC10 with the hi res headset are not bad too.
4. HTC 10 firmware make me feel it just beta quality, and if you use LG, Samsung, Nexus before you will say what the hell HTC still doing stupid things, such as very bad NFC card reading, VOLTE suddenly disappear, no RGB notification LED which can't customizable, bluetooth disconnect, not bright enough screen under sun. I can go for a long list what I hate on the 10.
I switch from Nexus 5 which had broken, so at that time I can only choose from Note 7, Pixel, 10, V20. pixel don't have OIS, V20 bad photo quality, Note 7 explosion, so I am force to choose 10 in team for better photo quality.
If you really need a phone right now I will suggest get S8,or anything cheap such as MI and one plus. The soon release mi 6 is cheap and got 835, 6gb ram, but no ,3.5mm and only 1080p.
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Thanks for the reply, S8 is a beast but it's so expansive. I found an One Plus 3T at almost the same price as HTC 10 and V20 but didn't really think about it. Is it a good one? And also have a look on Huawei P10.
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Thanks for the reply, S8 is a beast but it's so expansive. I found an One Plus 3T at almost the same price as HTC 10 and V20 but didn't really think about it. Is it a good one? And also have a look on Huawei P10.
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It is a tough choice for 10 between 3T, for V20 I will not consider as I am afraid of if any bootloop issue in future and bad photo quality.
3T had touch screen lag problem, just fix in recent firmware but dunno how good it is. P10 totally against it, 1. it use 3 different kind of flash, from very slow to super fast, it like a lucky draw, 2. it lack of oleophobic coating, what the hell a modern smartphone lack of this? 3. CPU still not good enough for a flagship device
if you will flash custom rom then htc 10 is a good one, consider the hardware not so bad (except the nfc and weaker wifi reception).
If you go for 10, check the screen, it either Sharp panel or Tianma panel, talk about color accuracy (sRGB) the Tianma is better, but the Sharp panel is a little bit brighter and wider view angel, but will have some visible line on it. google the different before choose.
Actually the 10 will be my last HTC device, I can't understand how come they still can't fix the volte issue. I also have some app incompatible issue but not on my wife s7 edge.
p.s. It can't tell it is which panel until you look at the screen.
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It is a tough choice for 10 between 3T, for V20 I will not consider as I am afraid of if any bootloop issue in future and bad photo quality.
3T had touch screen lag problem, just fix in recent firmware but dunno how good it is. P10 totally against it, 1. it use 3 different kind of flash, from very slow to super fast, it like a lucky draw, 2. it lack of oleophobic coating, what the hell a modern smartphone lack of this? 3. CPU still not good enough for a flagship device
if you will flash custom rom then htc 10 is a good one, consider the hardware not so bad (except the nfc and weaker wifi reception).
If you go for 10, check the screen, it either Sharp panel or Tianma panel, talk about color accuracy (sRGB) the Tianma is better, but the Sharp panel is a little bit brighter and wider view angel, but will have some visible line on it. google the different before choose.
Actually the 10 will be my last HTC device, I can't understand how come they still can't fix the volte issue. I also have some app incompatible issue but not on my wife s7 edge.
p.s. It can't tell it is which panel until you look at the screen.
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Ok, thanks a lot for taking time to answer me. I think I’ll go for the HTC 10, it was my first choice and I think I won’t be disappointed with.
only reason to choose the V20 over the 10 is if sound quality is one of the top 3 features you want from a smartphone. That said, if you don't have, or don't plan on getting, great headphones then the V20's sound quality advantage becomes irrelevant. The 10's DAC is great and is at the top in comparison to other smartphones, but isn't quite on par with the V20. In all other aspects though the 10 is a better smartphone
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Ok, thanks a lot for taking time to answer me. I think I’ll go for the HTC 10, it was my first choice and I think I won’t be disappointed with.
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I just want to share my opinion about HTC 10.
HTC was once my favourite smartphone company, because of its audio quality and UI design. I used HTC one m7 for almost 4 years without any major issues and finally bought HTC 10 on November 2016, The performance was good and Camera is also good but not the best, galaxy s7 edge has better camera. but still audio recording and sound quality was top class. I updated to nougat on january end and it was working perfectly for about a month. however my faith in HTC has got down not long ago, ever since my HTC 10 became useless on the account of bootloop issue on february 2016.
I bought the device from another country and warranty is available only in that country, anyhow i had sent it for replacement and one of my friend who was in HTC service centre told me that he had seen 12 other HTC 10 phones sent for similar bootloop problems.
I'am waiting for the replacement of my HTC 10 for one n half months. When I recieve the device, first thing i'm gonna do probably is sell it !
You tell me: lamborghini or bicycle?
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You tell me: lamborghini or bicycle?
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lamborghini = HTC....... bicycle = LG V20
And what do you think about the brand-new LG G6? Did you heard something bad or weird about that one?
In my country I could find it for 599 euros right now, one month ago it was 750 !!!! what's happened? Bootloop again ?
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And what do you think about the brand-new LG G6? Did you heard something bad or weird about that one?
In my country I could find it for 599 euros right now, one month ago it was 750 !!!! what's happened? Bootloop again ?
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it's said that after s8 launch they dropped the price to sell more or so. the phone looks okay, but i'm not pleased with LG and Samsung
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And what do you think about the brand-new LG G6? Did you heard something bad or weird about that one?
In my country I could find it for 599 euros right now, one month ago it was 750 !!!! what's happened? Bootloop again ?
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because outdated CPU + camera sensor, same as HTC U ultra
and for G6 you will not receive the full spec unless you get the US or korea version, as I know US got wireless charge and Korea + some asia country got qual dac, feel weird?
p.s. the HTC U ultra sapphire limited edition give a large discount even when pre order to make it cheaper then S8 in my region
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only reason to choose the V20 over the 10 is if sound quality is one of the top 3 features you want from a smartphone. That said, if you don't have, or don't plan on getting, great headphones then the V20's sound quality advantage becomes irrelevant. The 10's DAC is great and is at the top in comparison to other smartphones, but isn't quite on par with the V20. In all other aspects though the 10 is a better smartphone
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As a music producer and audiophile, I totally agree. The V20 has made strides in mobile DACs and audio processing in terms of handling impedance and super low noise floor; needles to say it drives my HD 650's pretty well. I don't know if I would agree with the above statements on camera quality... it takes great pictures. I will say that the one thing that irks me about the phone is its UI. At times, it handles multiple applications well, and other times having a few music applications open as well as messenger applications is enough to frustrate me. Not exactly sure what causes it but considering a re-flash soon. I just don't want to risk loosing my DAC upon install of a new rom.
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And what do you think about the brand-new LG G6? Did you heard something bad or weird about that one?
In my country I could find it for 599 euros right now, one month ago it was 750 !!!! what's happened? Bootloop again ?
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As a music producer and audiophile, I totally agree. The V20 has made strides in mobile DACs and audio processing in terms of handling impedance and super low noise floor; needles to say it drives my HD 650's pretty well. I don't know if I would agree with the above statements on camera quality... it takes great pictures. I will say that the one thing that irks me about the phone is its UI. At times, it handles multiple applications well, and other times having a few music applications open as well as messenger applications is enough to frustrate me. Not exactly sure what causes it but considering a re-flash soon. I just don't want to risk loosing my DAC upon install of a new rom.
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I don't have a ton of experience with LG's UI, but it seems to be almost as lightweight as Sense 8. A major problem with a stock version of Sense 8 is that HTC sets it's kernel parameters to be way too conservative which causes hiccups similar to what you describe on your LG. So it's possible the same thing is happening.
I did some reading on the V20 forums and noticed some saying the Lineage based ROMs still sounded great. None of them had any HD 650s, but, as I'm sure you know, audio "quality" is highly subjective so it might sound degraded to your ears. I'd try it and if the audio sounds worse just go back to stock.
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I don't have a ton of experience with LG's UI, but it seems to be almost as lightweight as Sense 8. A major problem with a stock version of Sense 8 is that HTC sets it's kernel parameters to be way too conservative which causes hiccups similar to what you describe on your LG. So it's possible the same thing is happening.
I did some reading on the V20 forums and noticed some saying the Lineage based ROMs still sounded great. None of them had any HD 650s, but, as I'm sure you know, audio "quality" is highly subjective so it might sound degraded to your ears. I'd try it and if the audio sounds worse just go back to stock.
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Alright I'd be willing to try that! My only problem is I've always had issues reverting to stock after a flash. My Evo from back in the day was the worst at that.
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Alright I'd be willing to try that! My only problem is I've always had issues reverting to stock after a flash. My Evo from back in the day was the worst at that.
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All you'd have to do is make a full backup in TWRP before you flash a rom. Then if you don't like the rom just restore from TWRP