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Verizon Wireless Touch Pro2 to land September 11th, $199.99

Finally
Check this: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...ss-touch-pro2-to-land-september-11th-for-199/

Finally..verizon tp2 is not crippled

Engadget has a leaked internal memo confirming this as well.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/04/htc-touch-pro2-graces-verizon-on-september-11/
This brings me back to the question, does anyone know if it will at all be possible to unlock this for use on US AT&T 3G?

So it will be $489.99 without contract right??

CraZyLiLbOy said:
So it will be $489.99 without contract right??
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According to that leaked memo, yeah.
Anyone know if its possible to unlock for US AT&T 3G? I'd pay $500 in a heartbeat for no contract, an actual number row, green (I'm a green whore), for once not crippled by Verizon version...

nothing personally to any of you, but I've had Verizon, and i'd rather have a a GSM network that I can swap Sim's on, and switch phones when I like.
The Cdma network, has great coverage and clarity, but I'd rather have the freedom of what phone do I want today

Dalamak said:
nothing personally to any of you, but I've had Verizon, and i'd rather have a a GSM network that I can swap Sim's on, and switch phones when I like.
The Cdma network, has great coverage and clarity, but I'd rather have the freedom of what phone do I want today
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Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!

I'm surprised more people haven't responded to this. As a long time Verizon customer, this announcement MADE MY DAY!

I called the Verizon 800-number and was told that it is indeed releasing on the 11th... can't wait! I'm going to use my NE2 $50 off and hopefully get some kind of retention discount since I'm out of contract... $149 after rebate minus whatever I can finangle , will be a nice upgrade from my XV6800/HTC Titan.
Does anyone think they will allow for preorders or will it be a grab for it on the day it launches?

Yep - the VZN TP2 is very much on my radar. I have been very happy with my current Moto A4500 (Q9 Napoleon) running WM 6.1 Standard, but looking forward to a touch screen interface. Actually, one of the nice things about VZN is that I can toggle between devices via the dial up "device programming app:" *228 option 3.
John

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!
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Traveling internationally with a cdma phone can sometimes be tough.

sdlopez83 said:
Traveling internationally with a cdma phone can sometimes be tough.
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CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.
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Get outta here thats awsome.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.
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I don't think it'll work on domestic GSM networks though, just overseas. I have an Ozone with Verizon and it came with a Verizon/Vodaphone SIM installed, but when I try to access AT&T's network here it can't.
Edit-According to Phonescoop, it's not approved by the FCC to access domestic GSM, even though it can do 1900 and 850. I imagine the same will be true of the TP2.

I was told that the phone would be available for online ordering only on Sept 11th. I was so disappointed as I was planning to open up at the store to get the 1st one!
Has anyone else heard this?

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!
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I don't know about CDMA phones but, there are plenty of GSM phones better ACER m900, acer DX900, etc...
and Its not even a matter of being better, sometimes, when I go to work and I know its gonna be a hands on day, I don't want the phone banging around, I'll switch to a older motorla

Unlock to Verizon will 4G work?

My friend unlocked his but were he lives there is no 4g, were I live there is will it work? Verizon 4G lte

Nope. We are a GSM carrier, while Verizon is CDMA. Two very different technologies.
Sent from Darth Hercules

You're not going to be even able to use the phone on verizon unless you open it up, and replace some circuits on the inside... then the firmware.. sounds like a fun project if you are into that.
Tell your friend he is going to have to suck it up or buy a new phone.

No, We already got it working for 3G. We took the sim card out of his Droid 3 Global while I was on vacation and put it in an unlocked Samsung Galaxy, worked fine. I am back in arizona and we have 4g here (were he lives they do not) and I just bought another sgs2 and when I take the sim out of my Droid 3 global will it work 4g aslong as 3g? I know it works for 3g

JTidler said:
No, We already got it working for 3G. We took the sim card out of his Droid 3 Global while I was on vacation and put it in an unlocked Samsung Galaxy, worked fine. I am back in arizona and we have 4g here (were he lives they do not) and I just bought another sgs2 and when I take the sim out of my Droid 3 global will it work 4g aslong as 3g? I know it works for 3g
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No you didn't . Not possible on this phone .

Wont to bet fag $10 paypal on the table

Look it up droid 3 is gsm

Fag? Look it up, NO TMOBILE PHONE WILL WORK ON VERIZONS NETWORK. Bottom line, you did not put a verizon sim card in the T989 and get 3g. There are more then one Samsung Galaxy S2. .
Oh and by the way, calling someone a name like that shows your age, mommy and daddy need to child proof the computer.

Not on my computer. I am not a kid just pissed ill upload a pic 4 proof one second

JTidler said:
Not on my computer. I am not a kid just pissed ill upload a pic 4 proof one second
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maybe he means the sprint galaxy s2??? that might be possible? who knows lol

So after looking around, you might be able to do it.
Just try it because apparently you have everything you need on hand.
But you will not be able to make calls from it.
I suppose that means you got a mini ipad or something.
You'll get 3G at max, probably edge since t-mobile uses HPSA+ instead of LTE bands.

There are so many Samsung Galaxy phones it is easy to get mixed up. Im just letting them know that Tmobile phones CANT work on Verizon, completely different technologies used.

JTidler said:
Not on my computer. I am not a kid just pissed ill upload a pic 4 proof one second
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Upload that pic up your @$$! Haha!
You come asking for help in these forums with stupid attitude. Funny
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

8Fishes said:
So after looking around, you might be able to do it.
Just try it because apparently you have everything you need on hand.
But you will not be able to make calls from it.
I suppose that means you got a mini ipad or something.
You'll get 3G at max, probably edge since t-mobile uses HPSA+ instead of LTE bands.
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Seriously? Show me where the T989 got Verizons CDMA 3g bands?

8Fishes said:
So after looking around, you might be able to do it.
Just try it because apparently you have everything you need on hand.
But you will not be able to make calls from it.
I suppose that means you got a mini ipad or something.
You'll get 3G at max, probably edge since t-mobile uses HPSA+ instead of LTE bands.
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Thank you, That is all I Need to do. And also I am pretty sure the 3g works, unless its only 2g on my friends. I knew it worked cause we did it on my friends. Kinda sucks 4g will not work, all good though. Thank you again for your help

JTidler said:
Thank you, That is all I Need to do. And also I am pretty sure the 3g works, unless its only 2g on my friends. I knew it worked cause we did it on my friends. Kinda sucks 4g will not work, all good though. Thank you again for your help
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Wheres that pic??? And after that please right a tutorial of how you were able to accomplish this, even 2g speeds is enough.

I asked my friend he is asleap so I left a message, Droid 3 is listed as supporting GSM 850/900/1800/1900. Also, my SIM card has "Verizon GSM Global network". I can prove the phone me and my friend bought is the t-mobile one I have a pic of the box. Let me get it off ebay

JTidler said:
I asked my friend he is asleap so I left a message, Droid 3 is listed as supporting GSM 850/900/1800/1900. Also, my SIM card has "Verizon GSM Global network". I can prove the phone me and my friend bought is the t-mobile one I have a pic of the box. Let me get it off ebay
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Ok, now that makes more sense. Then its probably possible, not sure.

sparky79 said:
Ok, now that makes more sense. Then its probably possible, not sure.
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Yeah, And when I take SIM out it goes to CMDA mode and still works

sparky79 said:
Ok, now that makes more sense. Then its probably possible, not sure.
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That is my 3 options i can use on droid 3 withought sim card can only do CMDA can do GSM when i hzve it.

[Q] Activating CDMA Verizon Nexus

I currently have a Samsung Charge and was wondering what would happen if I put my current SIM into a gnexus. would that allow me to use the phone or does it need to be activated by verizon?

Well, you won't be able to put the SIM in the Nexus because the Charge uses a full sized SIM and the Galaxy Nexus uses a micro SIM. However, it would work if you cut your SIM down.

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Well, you won't be able to put the SIM in the Nexus because the Charge uses a full sized SIM and the Galaxy Nexus uses a micro SIM. However, it would work if you cut your SIM down.
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I disagree, at least from what the man at the VZW store told me.. The SIM is for LTE only, this I know to be true. I was informed that I would have to call VZW to switch between phones. I specifically asked this question because I had always used GSM phones before where you could swap SIMs freely.

WiredPirate said:
I disagree, at least from what the man at the VZW store told me.. The SIM is for LTE only, this I know to be true. I was informed that I would have to call VZW to switch between phones. I specifically asked this question because I had always used GSM phones before where you could swap SIMs freely.
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Imnuts is correct. I switch devices all the time by moving my sim around. If it was LTE only, you could take it out and have at least voice service.

adrynalyne said:
Imnuts is correct. I switch devices all the time by moving my sim around. If it was LTE only, you could take it out and have at least voice service.
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Huh. So this is only true for LTE phones? If I buy another LTE VZW phone I can just swap the SIMs freely and I will have service just like with GSM phones? So that means the SIM is NOT for LTE only like I was informed at VZW?

WiredPirate said:
Huh. So this is only true for LTE phones? If I buy another LTE VZW phone I can just swap the SIMs freely and I will have service just like with GSM phones? So that means the SIM is NOT for LTE only like I was informed at VZW?
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Correct. As long as the sims are the same size, its a matter of drop it in and power up.
If not, you have to cut down your sim or use a micro to full adapter.

adrynalyne said:
Correct. As long as the sims are the same size, its a matter of drop it in and power up.
If not, you have to cut down your sim or use a micro to full adapter.
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Okay thanks. I know the people at the VZW store dont know everything but **** you would think they would know a simple thing like that. Hmm, just yesterday I was reading in a thread about data dropouts where the guy said it worked fine chen set to CDMA only but LTE cause dropouts, he said the solution was to get a new SIM and it has been working fine ever since. So the SIM has to do with CDMA and LTE. I am thinking about testing this with my buddies Droid2 Global.. Thanks again to both of you for correcting my misconception, I am pretty sure it is a widespread misconception too.

the LTE sim authenticates your phone to the network and registers it.
a coworker has a LTE ipad and he takes his SIM out of his phone and pops it into his ipad all the time and has internet access.

WiredPirate said:
Okay thanks. I know the people at the VZW store dont know everything but **** you would think they would know a simple thing like that. Hmm, just yesterday I was reading in a thread about data dropouts where the guy said it worked fine chen set to CDMA only but LTE cause dropouts, he said the solution was to get a new SIM and it has been working fine ever since. So the SIM has to do with CDMA and LTE. I am thinking about testing this with my buddies Droid2 Global.. Thanks again to both of you for correcting my misconception, I am pretty sure it is a widespread misconception too.
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Very widespread misconception. Verizon says you simply cannot do it. I've yet to meet a Verizon employee who has said otherwise, unless they are techno geeks.

adrynalyne said:
Very widespread misconception. Verizon says you simply cannot do it. I've yet to meet a Verizon employee who has said otherwise, unless they are techno geeks.
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the guy i got my phone from told me you could ask long as it was a LTE phone and the sim fit.
plus i tried it on my fiance's thunderbolt

adrynalyne said:
Correct. As long as the sims are the same size, its a matter of drop it in and power up.
If not, you have to cut down your sim or use a micro to full adapter.
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Cool beans, makes me want another LTE phone, to swap around on diff days. I dont know why I said I was gonna try it with my friends D2G, its not LTE, duh! This is very good to know and makes me really happy.

I swap my SIM between my Nexus and Charge sometimes (rarely) and it works fine. I have an adapter that I cut from an old SIM to use so the microSIM sits in the correct location. AFAIK, the LTE SIM takes care of activating the CDMA portion on it's own, allowing you to swap around as much as you like.

[Q] P605 LTE What service

I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.

alynch75 said:
I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.
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I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!

TMOBILE
marshwc said:
I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!
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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.

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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.
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Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...

Bummer
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Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...
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Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.

alynch75 said:
Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.
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Sorry... can't help with that
I noticed someone in another thread mentioned they had AT&T working. I can't post links, but in the Original Android Development section, "[RECOVERY] TWRP2.6.3.x TeamWin Recovery Project 12/27" at the top of page 11 there is a message about using AT&T and getting HSPA+ data.
Trying to post a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656&page=11
Good luck!

I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.

jinda628 said:
I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.
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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...

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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...
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So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?

jinda628 said:
So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?
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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!

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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!
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Hey bro you've been a big help. Thanks. I bought the tablet without knowing this issue. Anyway, I get a 4G LTE signal on my Note 3 so I guess that's LTE speed. I'm in Houston, TX and it says in the link you posted that we are one of the modernized market so we'll see.

Has anyone gotten the P605 to work on AT&T
Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.

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Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.
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Check out
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/02/best-prepaid-data-carriers-and-plans.html

Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.

jinda628 said:
Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.
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Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.

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Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.
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Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?

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Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?
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All WiFi versions are Exynos...

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I see. Thanks.
Maybe thats one reason I'll stick with this LTE version. Maybe someday TMO will utilize the same band. I hope

AT&T tech support said my OP7T not LTE Compatible

It's HD1907 T-MOBILE. What I need is HD1905. He sent me the wrong one.
I only realized a few hours ago I had no mobile data. I had got calls and texts to work this morning.
After spending 45 minutes on the phone with AT&T they concluded my phone is not recognized as LTE compatible. WTF? It's not even connecting to 3g.lb
I've been buying unlocked phones for years. My last phone was OP5T. I've never experienced anything like this.
I'll probably take it to the corporate store tomorrow but doubt it'll help. Has anyone had problems with AT&T and this phone?
I'm just putting it out there, hoping somebody has an idea...

AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.

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AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
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I'll bet if you look in the settings your model is HD1905 or the global model, not sure the number.
Actually if you could take a look for me and post back here that'd be good. It most likely won't make a difference but I'm curious.

KLit75 said:
I'll bet if you look in the settings your model is HD1905 or the global model, not sure the number.
Actually if you could take a look for me and post back here that'd be good. It most likely won't make a difference but I'm curious.
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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.

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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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You mean Verizon when you say VZW?
I'm just confused as to how he would be able to add it to the list of approved devices.
Anyway it's BS. If the carrier supports the phone, and the phone is capable of VOLT!/WIFI CALLING, it should work.

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You mean Verizon when you say VZW?
I'm just confused as to how he would be able to add it to the list of approved devices.
Anyway it's BS. If the carrier supports the phone, and the phone is capable of VOLT!/WIFI CALLING, it should work.
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Yes Verizon. I have heard hear many times on this site, that phones are blocked from wifi calling by the IMEI, I or they could be wrong.
Vowifi works on the unlocked Pixel, but are they going to butt heads with Google? Volte works fine, I got a network extender, and I can use google voice to make calls over wifi if I really need to.
If vowifi is a must, get an approved phone, that is all you can do.

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AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
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I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol

redemptionx11 said:
I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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Maybe you can answer this for me. Just because a T-MOBILE locked phone is able to make calls and texts on AT&T, does that automatically mean it should be able to connect to mobile data?
I was able to get it to make calls after a refresh signal was sent out, but it could not connect to mobile data . My sim is fine. I even popped it my son's Pixel 3a and LTE started immediately.
The seller is saying the fact that it was able to make calls means it is able to connect to mobile data. And I should take it to AT&T before returning it. I don't think he's scamming. He says he has the same phone on AT&T. And he's sold Hundreds of them. That kinda checks out based on reviews and some of those people do report it works with AT&T.
These phones are hd1907 T-Mobile but supposedly OnePlus unlocks them before sending them out to some sellers. I sort of believe the guy but is it true? If it were locked to T-Mobile could I get it to make phone calls?
Obviously I'm not talking about a hack. Because I thought locked was locked. Is it possible for a locked T-Mobile phone to make calls on the AT&T network?
Also I got AT&T to make it work but once I removed the sim/reinsert it, the thing displays weird behavior. Wifi goes in and out. It forgets the apn settings that were set prior.

redemptionx11 said:
I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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I agree, ATT was the most horrible experience I ever had. Tracfone may have even had a better customer support.
Verizon CDMA service may be antiquated, but their customer service and tech support is 2nd to none.

KLit75 said:
Maybe you can answer this for me. Just because a T-MOBILE locked phone is able to make calls and texts on AT&T, does that automatically mean it should be able to connect to mobile data?
I was able to get it to make calls after a refresh signal was sent out, but it could not connect to mobile data . My sim is fine. I even popped it my son's Pixel 3a and LTE started immediately.
The seller is saying the fact that it was able to make calls means it is able to connect to mobile data. And I should take it to AT&T before returning it. I don't think he's scamming. He says he has the same phone on AT&T. And he's sold Hundreds of them. That kinda checks out based on reviews and some of those people do report it works with AT&T.
These phones are hd1907 T-Mobile but supposedly OnePlus unlocks them before sending them out to some sellers. I sort of believe the guy but is it true? If it were locked to T-Mobile could I get it to make phone calls?
Obviously I'm not talking about a hack. Because I thought locked was locked. Is it possible for a locked T-Mobile phone to make calls on the AT&T network?
Also I got AT&T to make it work but once I removed the sim/reinsert it, the thing displays weird behavior. Wifi goes in and out. It forgets the apn settings that were set prior.
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It should have no trouble using data BUT you'll have to change the phone's APN settings to match your carrier before you can. You can google it and find them. It's not hard at all to change. Somewhere under the "network" settings.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I've understood it the phone will keep trying to access the previous carrier's data network, which is why you didn't have data. But as said above the APN settings should fix that.

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It should have no trouble using data BUT you'll have to change the phone's APN settings to match your carrier before you can. You can google it and find them. It's not hard at all to change. Somewhere under the "network" settings.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I've understood it the phone will keep trying to access the previous carrier's data network, which is why you didn't have data. But as said above the APN settings should fix that.
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If I told you the whole story, which started on Friday morning and in the end involved 7 AT&T employees, 6 on the phone and 1 in the store, it'd probably be removed because it's spam. Too long of a story.
But in the end it didn't get to connect to mobile data..at least not consistently. I took it to the store. The guy removed the Sim reset it, turned it off and boom! - LTE, calls and texts. His theory was it takes a little while for it to unlock and get set so when I tried it the other night it wasn't working.
I was happy because it literally took 5 minutes. I ran some errands and was out for like another 2 hours. Everything was working. Some point between the store and my driveway, the signal was gone. I never got it back. Of course I tried reset, remove Sim, reboot, change apn settings.
I called AT&T... the first woman didn't even know what CDMA and GSM was. I politely got her to transfer me to the guy who 'knows his stuff'. He got it to make calls again, but in the end concluded this device can't work on this network. I didn't wanna argue anymore. He had a BS answer for everything including 'If it doesn't work, why DID it work just a half hour ago?'
He said I could try getting a new sim. They have no idea. My son's sim won't work on this phone but pop it in my old phone and it works. And my sim works in his phone. It's not the sim. I know it.

KLit75 said:
It's HD1907 T-MOBILE. What I need is HD1905. He sent me the wrong one.
I only realized a few hours ago I had no mobile data. I had got calls and texts to work this morning.
After spending 45 minutes on the phone with AT&T they concluded my phone is not recognized as LTE compatible. WTF? It's not even connecting to 3g.lb
I've been buying unlocked phones for years. My last phone was OP5T. I've never experienced anything like this.
I'll probably take it to the corporate store tomorrow but doubt it'll help. Has anyone had problems with AT&T and this phone?
I'm just putting it out there, hoping somebody has an idea...
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That's strange as they both litterly have the same bands besides 71 that 1907 has

This is att bands and oneplus bands

If u haven't tryed I would recommend using the failed to go to your settings and toggle around there all bit make sure it's set for north america

rob420p said:
That's strange as they both litterly have the same bands besides 71 that 1907 has
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I took it back to AT&T yesterday. There was someone in front of me so I sat down, removed the sim from my working phone, popped it in the op7t... instant lte, calls & texts. The same thing happened the day before I went to at&t. It worked perfectly well there in the store and even 2 towns away but not m my neighborhood which DOES connect to LTE, has for years on every phone we've had.
The tech (if you can really call him that) updated the sim. That got it done. I've had a working phone for 24 hours. BUT no LTE. It only connects to H+.
I haven't had time to call or go back to the store, but I'm hoping it's an easy fix. This has been the weirdest week I've ever had dealing with a phone. I've learned that AT&T doesn't know what they're doing. I still can't believe I needed to explain what GSM and CDMA was to one of the people on the call.
I'm gonna try a few things tonight after work.

KLit75 said:
I took it back to AT&T yesterday. There was someone in front of me so I sat down, removed the sim from my working phone, popped it in the op7t... instant lte, calls & texts. The same thing happened the day before I went to at&t. It worked perfectly well there in the store and even 2 towns away but not m my neighborhood which DOES connect to LTE, has for years on every phone we've had.
The tech (if you can really call him that) updated the sim. That got it done. I've had a working phone for 24 hours. BUT no LTE. It only connects to H+.
I haven't had time to call or go back to the store, but I'm hoping it's an easy fix. This has been the weirdest week I've ever had dealing with a phone. I've learned that AT&T doesn't know what they're doing. I still can't believe I needed to explain what GSM and CDMA was to one of the people on the call.
I'm gonna try a few things tonight after work.
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That is strange and pethetic the att peaple.dont know what they are doing.if I have time later I'll try to research she if anything comes out

rob420p said:
This is att bands and oneplus bands
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Thanks for sharing, but I've never really needed to mess around with the settings as far as mobile data goes. It either works out of the box, or at most I'll need to put the apn in manually on some custom roms, but even that's rare.
How does the info you provided apply to my problem. I know the phone can connect to lte. It was connecting briefly on Monday afternoon and while I was at At&T yesterday, it connected before they updated the sim.
Is there something I can do with this? It's a sincere question. I'm not sure if I can apply it somehow. Thanks

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Thanks for sharing, but I've never really needed to mess around with the settings as far as mobile data goes. It either works out of the box, or at most I'll need to put the apn in manually on some custom roms, but even that's rare.
How does the info you provided apply to my problem. I know the phone can connect to lte. It was connecting briefly on Monday afternoon and while I was at At&T yesterday, it connected before they updated the sim.
Is there something I can do with this? It's a sincere question. I'm not sure if I can apply it somehow. Thanks
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I think his point was to show that the OP7T does in fact work on all AT&T bands. Normally you don't need to do anything with this if the SIM is provisioned correctly.
What are the chances that you are on the edge of the local AT&T LTE signal so it drops to H+ because that's a stronger connection? At the AT&T store the LTE signal is stronger so the phone is favoring that one. Some phones are more sensitive to signals than others (or more aggressive at switching to a stronger band).
Try using a program like "LTE Discovery" and see what bands you actually are connecting to. It can also let you know what is going on in your area with tower location.

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I think his point was to show that the OP7T does in fact work on all AT&T bands. Normally you don't need to do anything with this if the SIM is provisioned correctly.
What are the chances that you are on the edge of the local AT&T LTE signal so it drops to H+ because that's a stronger connection? At the AT&T store the LTE signal is stronger so the phone is favoring that one. Some phones are more sensitive to signals than others (or more aggressive at switching to a stronger band).
Try using a program like "LTE Discovery" and see what bands you actually are connecting to. It can also let you know what is going on in your area with tower location.
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I'll try that. Thanks.
That's what I said but the guy at the store said it's really not a stronger signal at the store. Plus I know I can get LTE at my house and in the store because all our other phones connect, even this one, briefly at the at&t store.
The seller have me a code to input into the dialer but I'm waiting for tomorrow to put it in. It's my day off. If something goes wrong it won't be a huge deal. I will look into what you sent at some point though.

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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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Your posts are bouncing between VoLTE & VoWiFi.
LTE bands and VoLTE work fine on Verizon's network.
Verizon allows VoWiFi on the OP 8's that they sell. They will not activate VoWiFi on the OP 7 series, the claim is that the phone did not go through their security testing. IIRC VZW doesn't allow VoWiFi on any outside phone.