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I have been wondering this myself. I knew it was "brighter" but what else is the difference with this screen. Well, the BIG deal is that the digitizer is part of the glass not overlaid so you won't have the possibility to get dust under the glass but on top of the pixels... Like on Desire.
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Super Active-Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode or Super AMOLED is a display technology for use in mobile devices such as mobile phones. It differs from many other display technologies in that the layer which detects touch is integrated into the screen rather than being overlaid on top.
Compared with the first-generation AMOLED, the Super AMOLED claimed advantages are:
* 20% brighter screen
* 80% less sunlight reflection
* 20% reduced power consumption
HTCs next gen phones will no doubt have it as standard. I like the Desires screen, but I just wondered what the exact differences were with all this "super" talk. there you go. better in sunlight, and no dust, and brighter, and less power. thats it.
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I have been wondering this myself. I knew it was "brighter" but what else is the difference with this screen. Well, the BIG deal is that the digitizer is part of the glass not overlaid so you won't have the possibility to get dust under the glass but on top of the pixels... Like on Desire.
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Super Active-Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode or Super AMOLED is a display technology for use in mobile devices such as mobile phones. It differs from many other display technologies in that the layer which detects touch is integrated into the screen rather than being overlaid on top.
Compared with the first-generation AMOLED, the Super AMOLED claimed advantages are:
* 20% brighter screen
* 80% less sunlight reflection
* 20% reduced power consumption
HTCs next gen phones will no doubt have it as standard. I like the Desires screen, but I just wondered what the exact differences were with all this "super" talk. there you go. better in sunlight, and no dust, and brighter, and less power. thats it.
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htc has already said it will be going back to lcd screens as amoled technology is too expensive, i think even the future desires will be made with lcd screens
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htc has already said it will be going back to lcd screens as amoled technology is too expensive
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Do you have a source for this?
would love a source for that. I cannot believe that. LCD is old hat now and with Samsung planning to bring on 2 huge facilities for S-AMOLED production by 2013 it seems ridiculous to suggest HTC have ruled out using this technology in the future due to expense. It will become cheaper as it becomes more common place. It's certainly the way forward for mobile device screens. back lit lcd is inefficient.
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htc has already said it will be going back to lcd screens as amoled technology is too expensive, i think even the future desires will be made with lcd screens
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Can't be further from the truth.
The reason why HTC is considering switching back to LCD for many of its currently AMOLED-equipped handsets is that there is a huge shortage of AMOLED screens. Apparently, all of these AMOLED screens are provided by Samsung, and Samsung is not producing enough of them.
Source: Just google HTC AMOLED SAMSUNG and you will get many links to related stories, for example
http://www.oled-display.net/the-sma...tc-must-switch-the-display-from-amoled-to-lcd
Conspiracy theory: Samsung has no problem producing enough Super AMOLED screens for their Galaxy S, which is available on almost every carrier. Samsung has said that it wouldn't make Super AMOLED screen available to other cellphone manufacturers within the year. Coincidence?
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Can't be further from the truth.
The reason why HTC is considering switching back to LCD for many of its currently AMOLED-equipped handsets is that there is a huge shortage of AMOLED screens. Apparently, all of these AMOLED screens are provided by Samsung, and Samsung is not producing enough of them.
Source: Just google HTC AMOLED SAMSUNG and you will get many links to related stories, for example
http://www.oled-display.net/the-sma...tc-must-switch-the-display-from-amoled-to-lcd
Conspiracy theory: Samsung has no problem producing enough Super AMOLED screens for their Galaxy S, which is available on almost every carrier. Samsung has said that it wouldn't make Super AMOLED screen available to other cellphone manufacturers within the year. Coincidence?
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soory, thats just what i heard lol you know how facts can get twisted on forums like this lol
That thing about Samsung's shortage is very funny indeed. There was no shortage just until the Galaxy S came out.
Yet, you gotta consider Samsung's move here. Samsung has the leading screen technology for their phones only. If you want the best you're pretty much obligated to get a Samsung.
Then again, with this move, they can't profit of selling SuperAMOLED screens to other manufacturers.
So if they are faking it, they are gambling on the point of having the best the market has to offer.
I don't think samsung is gambling here, they are still dependent on collaboration within the industry regarding so many other components that they make, so they wont risking alienating partners because of amoled screens alone, that is only one of their many business areas. I think it's just a shortage, that's it. If they can't make enough, they can't.
Also consider that samsungs phone division may have contractual preference in deliveries for Co-funding the new plant for example. I'm just speculating wildly tog give examples on possible business complexety involved.
Excluding supplies will for example not provide the increased price / revenue that an open market and limited supplies competition would give.
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They're not going to cripple HTC by not producing screens for them, especially since HTC can simple switch to another supplier, and get SLCD screens made by Sony for the Desire/Nexus One. It would also destroy HTC and Samsung's relationship if they did that.
On a side note, Yes Samsung has said they are keeping Super AMOLED tech to themselves for 18 months.
ive always wondered the difference too lol
Super-Amoled Plus
At OLED-Display.net there is also a graphic from Samsung Mobile Display which explain Super-Amoled-Plus:
oled-display.net/what-is-super-amoled-plus
I thought SuperAMOLED were made only by Samsung.
Thought they may as well be called SamsungAMOLED screens...
Umm, let's not forget that S-LCD comes from Samsung and Sony. Basically, Desires have Sony displays if i recall correctly.
Samsung has a well known history in shaping the market as they please ( memory chips lawsuits as much you like ).
There is no such thing as shortage of displays on a global scale. Amoled and S-Amoled are also made by Samsung (yours truly ).
Until S-LCD pays off enough , they will not think of changing the factory technology to make newer displays.
No conspiracy, it's only business and Samsung is good at it.
As far as I'm concerned S-LCD , Amoled and S-Amoled equally suck. I believe in better displays.
amoled suck because of the colorfilter degration. once they find the proper materals, they will be superior, unless u want higher refreshrates, that wont be easy, maybe with graphs to replace the coppwr wiring
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would love a source for that. I cannot believe that. LCD is old hat now and with Samsung planning to bring on 2 huge facilities for S-AMOLED production by 2013 it seems ridiculous to suggest HTC have ruled out using this technology in the future due to expense. It will become cheaper as it becomes more common place. It's certainly the way forward for mobile device screens. back lit lcd is inefficient.
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I totally agree.
Hi all. My screen is degradating over time.
I bought the phone on christmas.
Screen was perfect now I can see some horizontal lines with different hue also in non gray background.
I can see this lines on this forum also. My display is at 50% brightness.
Have you noticed the same?
My first Nexus had this from day one. Purchased on release day in November and it didn't get worse up until I sold it last week. My new Nexus is much better and doesn't have any lines, etc.
I think you'll find the majority of units shipped before the new year will have this issue to some extent. The newer screens are much better.
I once had six units powered on in the dark next to each other. Three were built in November, and the other three in late December. The three from November had lines and a more yellow hue as opposed to the December built models which had no lines and a more natural hue.
Yes I see the horizontal lines too. They are growing over time. Specifically on the color red. Install dead pixel detect and check each color and you'll see what I mean.
It really doesn't bother me much though.
Fix for the Horizontal Lines - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588613
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Fix for the Horizontal Lines - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588613
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That isn't a fix, its a bandaid. Its been around for a couple months in different threads, by the way
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That isn't a fix, its a bandaid. Its been around for a couple months in different threads, by the way
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Umm hehehe okay a bandaid but it's better than the ones present in the thread atleast
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Umm hehehe okay a bandaid but it's better than the ones present in the thread atleast
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475074&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547477
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475074&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547477
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Umm.. mine isn't black bro. It's the proper ICS background with the lines things fixed.
My bad. So it is just a higher resolution gradient?
The two issues here are un-related. He's not talking about gradient banding. He's talking about physical flaws in the panel which manifest themselves as variation in intensity of light output from diode to diode.
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The two issues here are un-related. He's not talking about gradient banding. He's talking about physical flaws in the panel which manifest themselves as variation in intensity of light output from diode to diode.
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True, the displays are just purely crap. There is absolutely no way around it. You might not see or care about it, but it is the simple truth. Samsung didn't deliver on the display. Great phone otherwise, but... I suppose nothing is perfect.
How do I check when the phone was manufactured? Didn't see any read out on the box.
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This is actually something different than the gradient fix in settings menu. My horizontal lines, specifically on color red, grow over time and they are actually hardware related. The actual pixels are changing. And its related to heat too. Hotter temp brings them out, and cooling off reduces them.
Also I can see them spreading gradually. They only hit the top half of the screen, but expand towards the bottom too as it heats up.
Again though this doesn't affect me at all! Its not noticeable and I'm not worried about it.
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This is actually something different than the gradient fix in settings menu. My horizontal lines, specifically on color red, grow over time and they are actually hardware related. The actual pixels are changing. And its related to heat too. Hotter temp brings them out, and cooling off reduces them.
Also I can see them spreading gradually. They only hit the top half of the screen, but expand towards the bottom too as it heats up.
Again though this doesn't affect me at all! Its not noticeable and I'm not worried about it.
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I know I know, I was just providing a bandaid
nexicon said:
How do I check when the phone was manufactured? Didn't see any read out on the box.
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It says on the actual handset if you take out the battery.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519606
Cmmts said:
True, the displays are just purely crap. There is absolutely no way around it. You might not see or care about it, but it is the simple truth. Samsung didn't deliver on the display. Great phone otherwise, but... I suppose nothing is perfect.
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Yep i lived to accept my faulty display after 4 exchanges I gave up. Each one had different issues.
The quality control is horrendous. I will never ever purchase another samsung product again. In fact I just bought a 25 inch monitor for my desktop, and went with Asus over samsung, perfect monitor no dead pixels or lines or anything.
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Yep i lived to accept my faulty display after 4 exchanges I gave up. Each one had different issues.
The quality control is horrendous. I will never ever purchase another samsung product again. In fact I just bought a 25 inch monitor for my desktop, and went with Asus over samsung, perfect monitor no dead pixels or lines or anything.
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I've been around long enough to know that every cell phone company has QC issues. Anyone who disagrees is naive or a liar. You aren't buying a hand built luxury item. It is a mass produced electronic device.
Your beloved Asus is sending out GPS dongles to Prime owners due to their legendary QC.
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I've been around long enough to know that every cell phone company has QC issues. Anyone who disagrees is naive or a liar. You aren't buying a hand built luxury item. It is a mass produced electronic device.
Your beloved Asus is sending out GPS dongles to Prime owners due to their legendary QC.
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I just never seen 4 phones in a row have issues with the display, and different issues each time?
I can see one going bad, get RMA and fix it, but 4 in a row? Something is very wrong. If this phone cost me $50 I can careless, but when you spend $800 or more you expect it to work 100%
My samsung plasma TV actually has problems unfortunately it happened about 6 months after the 1 year warranty expired so nothing I can do.
I just have a real bad taste with samsung and not sure what I will do for my next phone but I got time to worry about it.
Is this possibly because of the pentile display? I hate the grainyness. It was PATHETIC at first but I fixed a lot of it with some color control tweaks. I'm lucky it did make a big difference. Phone looks beautiful now.
There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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I somewhat am afraid of this also. I don't mind that LG is making this panel but I do mind if it looks like this.
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It will definitely be tested ASAP. If the panels reveal the same issues, we will know about it with the quickness.
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It's going to have the same issues because it's the same screen. Don't expect otherwise.
I wonder if it's the same screen. The V30 display is HDR, 109% DCI-P3, 148% sRGB. The Pixel 2 XL has no mention of HDR and 100% DCI-P3.
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I wonder if it's the same screen. The V30 display is HDR, 109% DCI-P3, 148% sRGB. The Pixel 2 XL has no mention of HDR and 100% DCI-P3.
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It's gonna be the same. They aren't manufacturing different panels for the v30 and xl2.
Just in case, what is the out of the box test procedure to fully inspect screen for quality or defects?
How many complaints have there been? I've only seen the screenshot posted in the OP, which was posted by ARS technica if I'm not mistaken. I also remember David over at Androidpolice mentioning it when the brightness is set to minimum on one Pixel 2 XL unit. Unless we start getting reviews this isn't a widespread issue. Only two units have been confirmed so far, so no need to worry.
Not to mention, LG isn't the only one that has this issue, some s7 and s8 phones have this issue too:
http://i.imgur.com/XmS7SVh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fusYikY.jpg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3678570&d=1457658022
Does anyone k ow how bright the screen is supposed to be in nitts?
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Does anyone k ow how bright the screen is supposed to be in nitts?
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Not known yet, have to wait for the reviews. V30 reviews might eventually shed light on this if they are released before any Pixel 2 XL reviews.
The screen is 100% DPI-P3. It says it on their website.
Anyone go to Verizon store to check the phone out?
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I wonder this myself. I guess I can stop by Verizon after work tomorrow and have a look. It's hard to see uniformity problems in the brightly-lit store environment though, these sorts of issues are best seen in darkness or a dimly lit room.
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Anyone go to Verizon store to check the phone out?
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I went out to the Verizon store today and was profoundly underwhelmed by the XL 2 display.
First, it had a huge black band in the middle. Apparently it's not the only unit with this problem, someone on reddit posted the same issue I saw on my demo unit (https://imgur.com/a/CbfIH)
Second, colors were very dull and the whole screen had a hideous blue tint. I was instantly turned off by it. I've seen many many many displays through the years. Many phones have just fine displays, other's great (og Pixel XL, Galaxy S8...), but this Pixel XL 2 I saw was simply bad. Real bad for a $800+ device. I'm sort of hoping it was just this unit, but I've seen many reports already in reddit that are complaining about the same thing.
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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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I'm pretty sure LG isn't reserving the "good" panels for the Pixel 2/XL. They are both getting the same screen. POLED screens from earlier LG phones have had the same issues. If it's something you obsess over, you will see it. If you don't go hunting for it, you won't.
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I'm pretty sure LG isn't reserving the "good" panels for the Pixel 2/XL. They are both getting the same screen. POLED screens from earlier LG phones have had the same issues. If it's something you obsess over, you will see it. If you don't go hunting for it, you won't.
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But to have this issue on a 1k$ phone... Unacceptable
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Questionable screen is a show stopper for me. The xl screen is great. Thought I had a dead spot but reboot fixed. I liked 6p screen size. While a big phone much easier for old eyes. Thought $410 trade was good reason to switch to 2 xl same size as 6p but having second thoughts now.
Would like to hear more about the plastic oled tech. Anyone have link to a good lg thread on the screen?
Just checked xl2 out at verizon. My impression is that it feels good in hand. Buttons tactile dont like volume buttons are one unit tho. I like the texure of the body. Screen looks fine but the color seems too much black. Too much black in all color. I still see this oled color shifting in some viewing angle. Stereo speakers seems not that loud not much bass either.
Oh the vibration feels good like samsung kinda.
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But to have this issue on a 1k$ phone... Unacceptable
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I don't disagree. So is having 4GB of RAM on a 1k phone. It's the technology they chose to have the squeeze gimmick. It's not like LG is reserving the good POLED screens for the Pixel 2 was my main point. It's also really hard to notice unless the screen is dimmed in my experience. Not making excuses, though.
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The possible screen "issue" is when the phone brightness is turned all the way down correct? If so...non issue for me. I can probably count the length of the minutes on one hand of the time I've had the brightness turned all the way down the past few years.
Hello guys... We are going forward to pixel 4, after all of this years i want to ask what would be better to buy...
A brand new pixel 2xl 128gb? or a pixel 3a xl
Do they have same camera and quality?
Does pixel 2 work perfectly after the burn in problem on screen?
Let me know your opinion!!
Thank you all..
If I were in your shoes, I'd get the Pixel 3a XL simply because it performs similarly to the 2 XL in day to day use, has a headphone jack, and it's a tad newerr so there's always the off chance it might receive updates for longer
I steered my roommate to the 3aXL for an upgrade, since she doesn't need the flagship-level processor. In fact, the processor is the biggest difference between the two, as the 3aXL uses a mid-range processor rather than a SD835 or later. That said, the 3aXL, even with Verizon crapware on it (yeah she went with Verizon as she doesn't need root) it's snappy. In fact, I couldn't detect any lag when comparing it to my P2XL, despite the different processors.
The 3aXL only comes with 64GB of storage, which is starting to run a bit small.
The camera hardware is identical in both, but the 3aXL lacks the Pixel Visual Core chip found in the 2XL. This means some operations with the camera will be slower than with the 2XL as the 3aXL has to steal CPU cycles to process pictures.
The 2XL didn't have a burn-in issue from what I recall. Some units had a noticeable blue shift when holding the device at an angle, though the concerns related to it were largely overblown. That said, do keep in mind the following about OLED screens.
1. ALL OLED screens will have some degree of blue shift when held at an angle. This is normal for this technology.
2. ALL OLED screens can suffer from screen burn in if static elements are displayed for a long time. For example, my roommate used my Nexus 6 prior to the 3aXL and left the navigation bar up all the time instead of hiding it as I do. There is now burn-in where the bar is located, though I did manage to reduce the amount of burn-in with an AMOLED screen fix utility.
Opinion: Go with the P2XL. Like the 3aXL it will see Android Q and (possibly) R, has twice the storage, the Pixel Visual Core, water resistance the 3aXL lacks, and an aluminum body instead of plastic. Just be sure that the one you purchase is not a Verizon device, or else you most likely will never have root due to a locked bootloader.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I steered my roommate to the 3aXL for an upgrade, since she doesn't need the flagship-level processor. In fact, the processor is the biggest difference between the two, as the 3aXL uses a mid-range processor rather than a SD835 or later. That said, the 3aXL, even with Verizon crapware on it (yeah she went with Verizon as she doesn't need root) it's snappy. In fact, I couldn't detect any lag when comparing it to my P2XL, despite the different processors.
The 3aXL only comes with 64GB of storage, which is starting to run a bit small.
The camera hardware is identical in both, but the 3aXL lacks the Pixel Visual Core chip found in the 2XL. This means some operations with the camera will be slower than with the 2XL as the 3aXL has to steal CPU cycles to process pictures.
The 2XL didn't have a burn-in issue from what I recall. Some units had a noticeable blue shift when holding the device at an angle, though the concerns related to it were largely overblown. That said, do keep in mind the following about OLED screens.
1. ALL OLED screens will have some degree of blue shift when held at an angle. This is normal for this technology.
2. ALL OLED screens can suffer from screen burn in if static elements are displayed for a long time. For example, my roommate used my Nexus 6 prior to the 3aXL and left the navigation bar up all the time instead of hiding it as I do. There is now burn-in where the bar is located, though I did manage to reduce the amount of burn-in with an AMOLED screen fix utility.
Opinion: Go with the P2XL. Like the 3aXL it will see Android Q and (possibly) R, has twice the storage, the Pixel Visual Core, water resistance the 3aXL lacks, and an aluminum body instead of plastic. Just be sure that the one you purchase is not a Verizon device, or else you most likely will never have root due to a locked bootloader.
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I thought that blue shift was at the beginning devices and now should be fine, but maybe im wrong.
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I thought that blue shift was at the beginning devices and now should be fine, but maybe im wrong.
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The complaints were because the blue shift was more noticeable. All OLED displays, regardless of manufacturer, have some degree of blue shift.
Blue shift. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Three devices, made in different years, all with the same issue. None are defective, and the complaints about it with this device are overblown.
i got pixel 2 xl , thnk you so much all! should i update to Q or pie? what do you advιsing me?
Update to Android 9, then Q when it's released.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Update to Android 9, then Q when it's released.
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okey thnks! Camera works fine on 9?
Noexcusses said:
okey thnks! Camera works fine on 9?
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Yes, and gets better with every shot you take. The Pixel Visual Core AI analyzes past results - the pictures you have taken - to improve the shots you will take in the future.
Thanks
Good decision to go for pixel 2xl. I think it's better than 3axl. It has better processor, visual core chip and still two major upgrades remaining.
And we have sultan for p2xl.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The complaints were because the blue shift was more noticeable. All OLED displays, regardless of manufacturer, have some degree of blue shift.
Blue shift. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Three devices, made in different years, all with the same issue. None are defective, and the complaints about it with this device are overblown.
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Older OLED screens, like the ones you mentioned, for sure had blue shift as bad as the Pixel 2 XL. But when you compared other $850+ phones with OLED screens from the the year before and same year as the Pixel 2 XL, the shift was definitely not as bad on those. It's actually kind of sad that a phone in 2017 still had the same bad blue shift as phones from 2013 and 2014.
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Older OLED screens, like the ones you mentioned, for sure had blue shift as bad as the Pixel 2 XL. But when you compared other $850+ phones with OLED screens from the the year before and same year as the Pixel 2 XL, the shift was definitely not as bad on those. It's actually kind of sad that a phone in 2017 still had the same bad blue shift as phones from 2013 and 2014.
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The point is that all OLED screens have it, regardless of vintage. It's a consequence of the screen manufacturers trying to cut their expenses by having displays share blue subpixels between adjacent pixels. Expecting there to be little to no blue shift on an OLED screen is like tilting at a windmill. Thus, the complaints are totally overblown.
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The point is that all OLED screens have it, regardless of vintage. It's a consequence of the screen manufacturers trying to cut their expenses by having displays share blue subpixels between adjacent pixels. Expecting there to be little to no blue shift on an OLED screen is like tilting at a windmill. Thus, the complaints are totally overblown.
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I'm not saying there's no shift in any other OLED screens. It was just still way more noticeable on the Pixel than any other OLED at the time. Hence, why it was such a big downside in the reviews. I'm looking at an S9+ and there's a red shift but it's a lot less than the blue shift in my Pixel 2 XL.[emoji2371]
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In case you haven't decided yet, I was also contemplating between these two phones (among others) and decided on the Pixel 2 XL recently. It ended up being better in regards to price, speed, number of supported bands, waterproofing, etc.
Regarding the discussion about the blue, go check eBay and you will definitely notice that some of the phones have it glaringly bad compared to others. Yes OLED has it, but my first one had it really bad. My latest has a very light version of it so I am happy.
Just spotted a green pixel on my main fold3 screen. Currently running Dead Pixels Test and Fix, hoping this will sort it but no luck so far. Anyone else has issues? First time Ive ever had this on a phone, and Ive been using smarphones since the original XDA. Screen hasn't been damaged, pixel got stuck when using it - noticed switching between aps.
Sounds like a blown driver... display failure.
The drivers are integrated into display matrix, tens of thousands of them. Still sound like a good idea to fold that?
Usual manafacturer policy (for monitors atleast) is that 1-3 dead or stuck pixels is considered within production error margin. I don't know what Samsung's policy for this is on their phones, but if it really bothers you you could try applying the device for RMA either way. Atleast that's what i would do.
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Usual manafacturer policy (for monitors atleast) is that 1-3 dead or stuck pixels is considered within production error margin. I don't know what Samsung's policy for this is on their phones, but if it really bothers you you could try applying the device for RMA either way. Atleast that's what i would do.
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A monitor is a different animal and a lot more real estate. This is a premium device with a premium price tag!
Even at close to 2 years old my 10+ has zero dead, stuck or degraded pixels as it should.
If within the return period, do so...
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A monitor is a different animal and a lot more real estate. This is a premium device with a premium price tag!
Even at close to 2 years old my 10+ has zero dead, stuck or degraded pixels as it should.
If within the return period, do so...
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I agree.
If you'd ask me I'd say that any dead/stuck pixel(s) are unacceptable if it they appear within the products warranty period. No matter if it's a TV, laptop, phone or any other product. Not only can they ruin the viewing experience depending on the location and "vividness" of the stuck/dead pixel(s), but they also make your device suddenly a lot less worth if you were to sell it second-hand, no matter how new it is. All while the user has 0 fault in this.
I often wonder about the legality of such manafacturer policies, and if they would actually hold up if someone or a group of people were to escalate such matter to court.
arnodude53 said:
I agree.
If you'd ask me I'd say that any dead/stuck pixel(s) are unacceptable if it they appear within the products warranty period. No matter if it's a TV, laptop, phone or any other product. Not only can they ruin the viewing experience depending on the location and "vividness" of the stuck/dead pixel(s), but they also make your device suddenly a lot less worth if you were to sell it second-hand, no matter how new it is. All while the user has 0 fault in this.
I often wonder about the legality of such manafacturer policies, and if they would actually hold up if someone or a group of people were to escalate such matter to court.
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Worse, green is the most visible color spectrum to the human eye. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
No doubt one of the reasons for the high cost of this phone are the cost of the rejected displays during the manufacturing process.
There's no way to repair them so they are scraped. These aren't a high volume product and the development costs are enormous.
What is Samsung thinking?
Samsung been far more profitable by sticking with using those funds to develope the Note series further instead. It have yielded far more bang for the buck for Samsung.
Silly SK gambling... it's a cultural thing and Samsung tradition. This time the snake eyes are glowing, perfect.
Rather than go with a sure thing, Samsung bet long again with predictable results. What's the definition of insanity Sammy?
blackhawk said:
Worse, green is the most visible color spectrum to the human eye. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
No doubt one of the reasons for the high cost of this phone are the cost of the rejected displays during the manufacturing process.
There's no way to repair them so they are scraped. These aren't a high volume product and the development costs are enormous.
What is Samsung thinking?
Samsung been far more profitable by sticking with using those funds to develope the Note series further instead. It have yielded far more bang for the buck for Samsung.
Silly SK gambling... it's a cultural thing and Samsung tradition. This time the snake eyes are glowing, perfect.
Rather than go with a sure thing, Samsung bet long again with predictable results. What's the definition of insanity Sammy?
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Yes that's right - its small but very bright so obvious. Still there so on phone to O2 to get a replacement
Did you have any luck getting Samsung to fix your screen? I have a Z Fold 2 that I have had since June, and it also has damaged pixels along the fold. It looks like a red one and 3 green, with a little section of black too - about the length of a flea. I read some's experience of Samsung telling them there were tiny puncture holes so it was user damage and not covered!!!