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Hi all,
Just got my touch pro 2 for T-Mobile (unlocked for AT&T) and love it.
Question:
Is there a dimensional difference between all the versions out (Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, original HTC)?
I am trying to get a shell (hard skin) similar to what I had on my Nokia 5800, but the guy that is selling it is telling my that his supplier says it won't work on T-Mobile due to size.
I can understand if the cutouts don't match, etc, but are there actual difference in sizes?
Thanks,
Jerry
There is a differences in dimensions.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...&id3=1792&id4=1829&id5=1766&id6=1989&id7=1751
More info and pics with the diferences:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=model
Thanks for the links.
I'm surprised at the differences, it's almost like each carrier's is a little different in size, is that normal?
I would think it would just be cosmetic differences not actual size.
sanscritt said:
Thanks for the links.
I'm surprised at the differences, it's almost like each carrier's is a little different in size, is that normal?
I would think it would just be cosmetic differences not actual size.
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Normal for the USA market...anything goes with our carriers
does this specific model number contain 4G-LTE grequency band B3(1800Mhz)
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Ibtisaam said:
does this specific model number contain 4G-LTE grequency band B3(1800Mhz)
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It supports:
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
B20 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#9439#*#*
B8 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#4636#*#*
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It supports:
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
B20 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#9439#*#*
B8 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#4636#*#*
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Is this the same model? Is it a good phone for the price still, the deal at the link below is very cheap.
http://www.tinydeal.com/letv-le-1-pro-55-2k-snapdragon-810-4gb-ram-64gb-rom-4g-phone-p-159277.html
Does anybody know how many hardware versions of the smartphone out there?
Or there is one and frequency selection is software dependent?
best deal at gearbest
You can buy at gearbest with 12 months warranty versus 6 months for less money, 164 euros with promo code "CellPhones8"
Hope it helps
I am a little confused here.
Both TD and gear best carry the 1 pro. Gearbest shows that the phone has band 7 (2600) and until today, tiny reflected that as well.
6 days after ordering from tinydeal, I have received an email from them stating the phone does NOT support band 7. Every other seller and device specification site says bands 3&7 are supported.
Finding official documentation has been a bit of a daunting task.
Advice, anyone?
I'm kind of confused about the phone, too. There seem to be three models floating around in stores, a regular one with bands B1/B3/B7/B38/B39/B40/B41, one with B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, and an International one with different bands listed as well. Yet the manufacturer only seems to list the B1/3/7/38/39/40/41 model. Is this true? Does the second model I listed with B2/4/5/17 have full AT&T LTE support in the US?
Im really not sure. Too many conflicting reports. I think I'm going to cancel my order in the morning. I asked about the bands on the official tech support Le forum, and they referred me to their Hong Kong forum while completely dodging the question.
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here: http://cn.lemall.com/le_1pro/parameter.html
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
Calebz said:
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here:
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
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I just received mine from Coolicool today. Popped in my Cricket sim card and LTE Discovery lists me as being connected to Band 17 right now. This must be an updated model, as it appears that the newly listed bands are correct. Maybe this is a sign that they're actually moving forward with releasing the phone in the US? If anyone suspects that LTE Discovery might be wrong, please point me to a better utility.
For the record, I purchased mine from Coolicool. As of today, all of the other models have been removed (the two with the different bands listed and the international version) and this is the sole model up for sale. It won't allow me to post a link because I'm new here, but it's the featured product on the upper right side of the screen.
ProppaT said:
I just received mine from Coolicool today. Popped in my Cricket sim card and LTE Discovery lists me as being connected to Band 17 right now. This must be an updated model, as it appears that the newly listed bands are correct. Maybe this is a sign that they're actually moving forward with releasing the phone in the US? If anyone suspects that LTE Discovery might be wrong, please point me to a better utility.
For the record, I purchased mine from Coolicool. As of today, all of the other models have been removed (the two with the different bands listed and the international version) and this is the sole model up for sale. It won't allow me to post a link because I'm new here, but it's the featured product on the upper right side of the screen.
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Can you unlock B20 band? Try this please.
laek.17 said:
Can you unlock B20 band? Try this please.
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The option is missing from the first menu. The second menu says CDMA and has a box you can check. I have no way of knowing what it did or if it works, as I don't live in an area that using Band 20. All I know is that I'm definitely getting Band 2 and 17, which haven't been available up until this new batch started shipping out apparently. The specs on the site I bought from specifically says no Band 20 support, so I'm guessing this doesn't work.
Calebz said:
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here: http://cn.lemall.com/le_1pro/parameter.html
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
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Have you got it yet?
Does the 3 and 7 bands work?
I received one today, bought in Tinydeal and can confirm that it works in the band 4 Tmobile.
Can you please share your experience with the new phone. Battery, hit, camera, games for more than 30 min.
Thanks
twd123 said:
Have you got it yet?
Does the 3 and 7 bands work?
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I cancelled the order, ordered another from gearbest that did indeed work on bands 3&7 ( 7 being the important one for me - Free mobile in central France). Sold it after a couple days because the phone was just too damned big and the software was a mess.
Actually thinking of buying another one as a spare. My Nexus 5 did something wonky yesterday and I don't want to have it fail and get caught in a situation where I don't have a phone.
Calebz said:
I cancelled the order, ordered another from gearbest that did indeed work on bands 3&7 ( 7 being the important one for me - Free mobile in central France). Sold it after a couple days because the phone was just too damned big and the software was a mess.
Actually thinking of buying another one as a spare. My Nexus 5 did something wonky yesterday and I don't want to have it fail and get caught in a situation where I don't have a phone.
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Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
I looked on all official LeTV/ LeEco sites (Global, India, HK, China) but don't seem to be able to find an "international version". Does anyone know where to find official information rather than from resellers?
twd123 said:
Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
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No, I decided not to order another one. I thought I could get past my dislike of 5.5 inch phones, but just too big for daily use for me. 5.2 inch seems to be the sweet spot, so that's where I'm focusing my attention at the moment - though that is presenting it's own set of challenges.
I'm using a nexus 5 at the moment. I would like a little better battery life and a little larger screen, but I'm not dying for a new phone at the moment.
If I do find myself in a spot where I have to replace my phone and I can't find a 5.2 inch that checks all the boxes (big one being budget), I'll probably just stick with a 5 inch phone.
Right now the top two are the xiaomi mi4c and the huawei p8.
I would rather go with an Mi5 or P9 but they're out of my price range.
twd123 said:
Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
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scloss84 said:
I looked on all official LeTV/ LeEco sites (Global, India, HK, China) but don't seem to be able to find an "international version". Does anyone know where to find official information rather than from resellers?
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I don't think an official international version exists. At least thas what I gathered from talking to some LeTv support people on their forums. Everything sold outside of HK/China and India is considered gray market, as far as I can tell.
Short and sweet, do I buy the US 7x for $200 or the Mate SE for $230 with 2x the RAM/ROM?
Seems pretty obvious (go with the SE), but I do care a lot about updates and rooting/roms so just curious what peoples thoughts are there.
Any input?
Sean
I always use gsm arena for phone specs. If you look there (for Honor 7x), and select version 'L24', it will show 'for USA, also known as the Mate SE' (they don't have a separate listing for the Mate SE).
Basically, they are identical phones, so as far as updates etc, they should be the same. Also read on one of the 'twrp for 7x' threads that someone followed the same procedure on their Mate SE and it worked fine. Being the anal type, and knowing they are basically identical, I still verified the Mate SE has the separate vendor partition, required for treble.
Works with T-mo? I'm sure the 2 are the same, but just read they only have 3 of the 5 lte bands t-mo uses. Except, 1 of those bands, B71, only 2 phones in the world have connectivity with! That's the new 600 MHz spectrum T-mo just bought, so that one almost shouldn't even be counted. My SE connects great with t-mo where I am, I'm sure the 7x would be identical.
Which one to go with? honestly, unless yer a heavy user of simultaneous apps, either one. Do you prefer grey or black?
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_7x-8880.php#l24
Hi
As @Some_Random_Username found out, there seem to be different hardware-variants of the OP7T see this thread. The primary reason for this appears to be WWAN-band support (4G/5G).
I recently noticed the 7T European SKU(HD1903) dropped support for the important LTE-band 71. This makes it a bit less global. The Euro SKU is also missing 30, 46 and 48. It does get LTE-bands 40 and 32 (missing form USA-variant HD1905) in return the latter which does not appear to be in use anywhere.
I have contacted OP via the FCC contact and also via support to find out more. If there are HW-differences, we should be able to seem them by looking at the IC's Oneplus uses: their spec's determine which frequencies the handset can accomodate. Also the antenna's are important: sometimes a dedicated antenna is placed for a specific band. At any rate, it is a bit strange to split the SKU's merely for adding band-32 to the EU-variant.
There has to be more to it than that: licencing costs and chip costs coming to mind first.
Maybe you will also find such nitty gritty details fun to know. At least I am having fun in checking this out
Useful sources:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25
https://nl.ifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+6+Teardown/109826
https://technology.informa.com/api/binary/604996
I was on the edge myself when deciding which variant to purchase...the bands were the deciding factor I'm in the states so didn't want any issues using my data. I wanted the Chinese variant just to be able to say I have the Chinese 7t and the symbols on the box ? ROFL but yeah copped the US variant directly from OP ? I love it...
Take a look at this:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/oneplus-7t
I was examining the LG G8 series and comparing models. I am having trouble identifying models of the series when references come from non-Official sources such as eBay, firmware download sites, and other places.
For example, LG provides the LG G8 Unlocked (USA) variant as having model "LMG820QM7" on its website (as can be seen https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmg820qm7-unlocked-g8-thinq-gray ). When searching other sites, such as firmware download sites, I find a model numbers for what is supposedly the USA unlocked variant as "G820QM", "LM-G820QM", or "G820". It is rather unclear why there is a discrepancy. Are the different found actually for different devices? Is there an understood notation (by others) to represent model numbers differently for same devices?
My experience with other models other than the USA unlocked variant is similar. Please explain why there are these discrepancies.
I have found the solution to my inquiry after examining things myself. The greatest reason for the model number discrepancy appears to be laziness or incompetence. There are others, such as eBay sellers that handle devices in bulk that do not know the actual full model numbers and do not take the time to better determine them and for their convenience may fail to list the entire model numbers.
Sounds about right; it's just hard to know the exact model/variant being sold without the full info.
Something else that I forgot to post is that the firmware variant series indicator part of the model number, which s its last character but must be used together with the rest of the model number (the firmware series indicator value can be the same for different firmware series if they are for a different model or sub-model), is not something that is indicated on the actual hardware itself (though it is sometimes on the product packaging or a sticker on the product). So, someone that receives an item second-hand, such as an eBay buyer or bulk seller, might often not know the full assigned model number.
I am not sure whether the LG G8 full model number appears somewhere in the firmware/software; I do not yet have an LG G8 family device.
@armodons - I am curious. My understanding from reading another post somewhere is that you have the Brightpoint variant of the LG G8
LMG820QM. Do you know what its whole model number is (including the firmware variant series indicator)? Of so, would you please specifiy it?
My understanding is that, for various LG device series, the Brightpoint firmware variant series may or may not be the same as the North America Operators US Open Market firmware series for a given hardware device model.
On my LG G8 BPT variant it actually does not say anywhere in the software. In the About phone area within Settings, it simply lists LM-G820QM as the Model Number. I got this device secondhand and always thought I had the US Open variant until I tried to use LGUP and got a kdz mismatch error. Finally used an IMEI checker online to figure out that I had the Brightpoint variant.
It looks like under the model number LMG820QM, there are three variants--BPT, CCA, and USA, with USA being the actual US Open variant, though technically all 3 of these are part of the NAO (North American Operators) line of firmware but you cannot crossflash among them.
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On my LG G8 BPT variant it actually does not say anywhere in the software. In the About phone area within Settings, it simply lists LM-G820QM as the Model Number. I got this device secondhand and always thought I had the US Open variant until I tried to use LGUP and got a kdz mismatch error. Finally used an IMEI checker online to figure out that I had the Brightpoint variant.
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Please let me know what IMEI checker you used. IMEI.info used to be very good at providing this kind of information and other useful information, but at some point it stopped providing much of the information.
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It looks like under the model number LMG820QM, there are three variants--BPT, CCA, and USA, with USA being the actual US Open variant, though technically all 3 of these are part of the NAO (North American Operators) line of firmware but you cannot crossflash among them.
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For LMG820QM there are actually more firmware variant series. For the CCA one ("COMPETITIVE CARRIES ASSOCIATION") you mentioned and as listed on firmware download sites, I am not familiar with the designation. There are also at least the Comcast (Xfinity Mobile) firmware variant series, as LMG820QM5; the Amazon.com firmware variant series, as LMG820QM8; and the Verizon LTE in Rural America (LRA) firmware variant series, as LMG820QMD.
Oh yes overall for all the LG G8's there area many variants! Sorry I cant remember which imei checker told me i had the BPT variant...