I was examining the LG G8 series and comparing models. I am having trouble identifying models of the series when references come from non-Official sources such as eBay, firmware download sites, and other places.
For example, LG provides the LG G8 Unlocked (USA) variant as having model "LMG820QM7" on its website (as can be seen https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmg820qm7-unlocked-g8-thinq-gray ). When searching other sites, such as firmware download sites, I find a model numbers for what is supposedly the USA unlocked variant as "G820QM", "LM-G820QM", or "G820". It is rather unclear why there is a discrepancy. Are the different found actually for different devices? Is there an understood notation (by others) to represent model numbers differently for same devices?
My experience with other models other than the USA unlocked variant is similar. Please explain why there are these discrepancies.
I have found the solution to my inquiry after examining things myself. The greatest reason for the model number discrepancy appears to be laziness or incompetence. There are others, such as eBay sellers that handle devices in bulk that do not know the actual full model numbers and do not take the time to better determine them and for their convenience may fail to list the entire model numbers.
Sounds about right; it's just hard to know the exact model/variant being sold without the full info.
Something else that I forgot to post is that the firmware variant series indicator part of the model number, which s its last character but must be used together with the rest of the model number (the firmware series indicator value can be the same for different firmware series if they are for a different model or sub-model), is not something that is indicated on the actual hardware itself (though it is sometimes on the product packaging or a sticker on the product). So, someone that receives an item second-hand, such as an eBay buyer or bulk seller, might often not know the full assigned model number.
I am not sure whether the LG G8 full model number appears somewhere in the firmware/software; I do not yet have an LG G8 family device.
@armodons - I am curious. My understanding from reading another post somewhere is that you have the Brightpoint variant of the LG G8
LMG820QM. Do you know what its whole model number is (including the firmware variant series indicator)? Of so, would you please specifiy it?
My understanding is that, for various LG device series, the Brightpoint firmware variant series may or may not be the same as the North America Operators US Open Market firmware series for a given hardware device model.
On my LG G8 BPT variant it actually does not say anywhere in the software. In the About phone area within Settings, it simply lists LM-G820QM as the Model Number. I got this device secondhand and always thought I had the US Open variant until I tried to use LGUP and got a kdz mismatch error. Finally used an IMEI checker online to figure out that I had the Brightpoint variant.
It looks like under the model number LMG820QM, there are three variants--BPT, CCA, and USA, with USA being the actual US Open variant, though technically all 3 of these are part of the NAO (North American Operators) line of firmware but you cannot crossflash among them.
armodons said:
On my LG G8 BPT variant it actually does not say anywhere in the software. In the About phone area within Settings, it simply lists LM-G820QM as the Model Number. I got this device secondhand and always thought I had the US Open variant until I tried to use LGUP and got a kdz mismatch error. Finally used an IMEI checker online to figure out that I had the Brightpoint variant.
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Please let me know what IMEI checker you used. IMEI.info used to be very good at providing this kind of information and other useful information, but at some point it stopped providing much of the information.
armodons said:
It looks like under the model number LMG820QM, there are three variants--BPT, CCA, and USA, with USA being the actual US Open variant, though technically all 3 of these are part of the NAO (North American Operators) line of firmware but you cannot crossflash among them.
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For LMG820QM there are actually more firmware variant series. For the CCA one ("COMPETITIVE CARRIES ASSOCIATION") you mentioned and as listed on firmware download sites, I am not familiar with the designation. There are also at least the Comcast (Xfinity Mobile) firmware variant series, as LMG820QM5; the Amazon.com firmware variant series, as LMG820QM8; and the Verizon LTE in Rural America (LRA) firmware variant series, as LMG820QMD.
Oh yes overall for all the LG G8's there area many variants! Sorry I cant remember which imei checker told me i had the BPT variant...
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I know there are multiple H815 models, The EU version being the only unlockable one right now.
My questions are;
1) what are all the H815 model numbers, and if the models numbers are not different for different locals, how to tell them apart?
2)What accessories come default in each local package? (I know some come with 2 back plates, some with headphones, some with mail in offers)
I would like to purchase a H815 EU model, but as of now I have no real way to tell if what I will be purchasing will be what I actually want until I try to unlock it.
*EDIT* I know this could be in Q&A but when this is answered, I would like to be able to edit this into an informative post to help others.
My h815 is from Taiwan. I know this because that's where it shipped from. Plus on the box it says h815 TW. But no where n the phone does it say TW. So the only way to know as far as I know is the box. Mine came with one set of headphones, one back, and us/TW charger for what it's worth
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Milimbar said:
1) what are all the H815 model numbers, and if the models numbers are not different for different locals, how to tell them apart?
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One way to tell apart differences between phones within the LGH815 model category seems to be to identify the suffix of the individual phone.
See post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61159318&postcount=68 for test of IMEI of phone that reveals the suffix particular to that phone.
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My h815 is from Taiwan. I know this because that's where it shipped from. Plus on the box it says h815 TW. But no where n the phone does it say TW. So the only way to know as far as I know is the box. Mine came with one set of headphones, one back, and us/TW charger for what it's worth
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Where did you buy yours from?
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Where did you buy yours from?
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Hi there
I did a lot of research, but I'm still stuck and would love some help.
Obviously there are 3 models of the Oneplus 3
- Europe / Asia
- China
- North America
They all have model numbers, for example, the users in America got the A3000 model, the users in Europe the A3003 model. So far it's easy.
My problem:
I'm from Switzerland and we can't buy the Oneplus 3 from official channels. So I have to import it.
But right now, I'm in Thailand for a while and could buy one here.
The best option would obviously be the European model because it supports all 3 LTE bands from my carrier. The China version would at least support 2 out of 3 and the model for North America only 1 out of 3.
So I would like to avoid the model for North America.
And here starts my confusion. The sellers in Thailand sell the A3000 model but they don't know (and probably don't care) if it's the version for North America or the China version.
I could take a picture of the sticker of the back of the box. It would be great if someone with the North America model could compare the sticker to their sticker (do you also have most of it written in Chinese? Or does it looke completely differen or even the same?).
One seller told me that his model had HydrogenOS on it and he flashed OxygenOS, so that would be the China model I guess, but he was out of stock. The other seller (the one I could take the picture of) said that he bought it already with OxygenOS on it, and that is what makes me wonder if it could be the North America model.
Thank you so much for every hint!
Chinese and North American models are both A3000. I guess that's why in the official page of OP they name them by country/region.
oneplus.net/3/specs
Sorry if my english is not perfect.
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Chinese and North American models are both A3000. I guess that's why in the official page of OP they name them by country/region.
oneplus.net/3/specs
Sorry if my english is not perfect.
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Ok thanks , so I would like to know if the A3000 i posted in the picture is the China model or the one for North America.
And why the seller tells me that there already is OxygenOS on it (if it really is the chinese model).
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Ok thanks , so I would like to know if the A3000 i posted in the picture is the China model or the one for North America.
And why the seller tells me that there already is OxygenOS on it (if it really is the chinese model).
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I would say that is the Chinese version because of all the Chinese text and it also says A3000 TD-LTE. Only the Chinese version has TD LTE bands as seen at https://oneplus.net/uk/3/specs.
The Chinese version comes by default installed with Hydrogen OS instead of Oxygen OS but many Chinese exporters open the box and flash Oxygen OS so that is what he is telling you.
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I would say that is the Chinese version because of all the Chinese text and it also says A3000 TD-LTE. Only the Chinese version has TD LTE bands as seen at https://oneplus.net/uk/3/specs.
The Chinese version comes by default installed with Hydrogen OS instead of Oxygen OS but many Chinese exporters open the box and flash Oxygen OS so that is what he is telling you.
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that's a great hint with TD LTE, thanks!
The european version say "ONEPLUS A3003" in the "about" section. I'll descript the label on my box tonight if you need to.
Thank you Le_Zouave but I think it's not neccessary. It says A3000 even in the about section. So it's either the China or North America model
You have the Chinese model... Great model
It was Chinese Model. Mine also exactly the same with yours.
All of the text on my NA model is in english and lists 2 IMEIs. Don't know why ur photo only list 1.
that IMEI thing is strange. I searched for more pictures here in Thailand (and will add some to this answer) but I couldn't find anywhere a second IMEI. There is an MEID printed on the back, but that is normally used in North America with CDMA phones.
I read on the oneplus forum that with the Oneplus 2 the chinese model has printed 2 IMEI but they were both the same number.
Has that something to do with dual active sims or standby sims?
It gets complicated
I'm currently browsing in Qatar and keep seeing N930X as the model number for the displayed Note 7s in various different shops - Is this the Middle-East regional variant or is the "X" part of model number just used for display handsets??
What model number does your Note 7 have if you have purchased it in the Middle-East? Is it Dual-SIM??
dubai - n930fd
I live in mexico, and the displayed units have that 930x too, the model sold here is 930F, so, I think that the "X" indicates a demo unit
Philippines, X is also the display unit and FD is sold here.
Finland, N930X is the unit in the stores and N930F being sold.
Thanks people - so to confirm, N930X = a demo unit model number.
I managed to check the retail box today (...should have done it before posting this thread, duh!) - I can confirm that in Qatar it is N930FD (dual-SIM).
Now to decide if I should go for it or still stick to my Note5 for now in the unlikely hope of custom ROMs to extend its appeal-life......
man, if you found some help, do not forget the thanks button
I need help putting another n930 variant on n930x
I BOUGHT A PHONE FOR GOOD PRICE IT END UP AS THE DEMO MODEL IS THERE ANYWAY I CAN PUT ANOTHER FIRMWARE ON IT OR IM SCREWED? i tried downloading verizon n930v but odin won flash any help will be appreciated
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I BOUGHT A PHONE FOR GOOD PRICE IT END UP AS THE DEMO MODEL IS THERE ANYWAY I CAN PUT ANOTHER FIRMWARE ON IT OR IM SCREWED? i tried downloading verizon n930v but odin won flash any help will be appreciated
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Only way to make it work like a phone is to change the mainboard. The X models are demo unit with all the functions except cellular.
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Hi everyone,
Just received my note 8 pro, ordered on xiaomi france offcial website. I looked at the note 8 pro megathread briefly and some others too.
I haven't even turned my phone on, but i got something on my mind : apparently, there's an indian and a global version. the china or eu versions, even malaysian, are all global versions customized for these locations, but fully compatibles. All these versions have model numbers like "M1906G7*".
What i don't understand, is about the model number MZB8511EU, wich seems to be exclusively for the blue model with 6G + 128G. I found a website listing all variants but it was'nt listed there. When i google this model number, i can only find commercial websites selling this model, always blue with 6 + 128G, and labeled as "EU version". Even on xda, no post is mentionning this model number.
I'm asking cause on the bill xiaomi france gave me on the website, before i received the phone, the model number was MZB8511EU (i ordered the blue one with 6 + 128g), but i received a M1906G7G. I was happy that i'd receive the EU model cause xiaomi france says on it's website it has B7/B20/B28 LTE bands (seems they're french only bands), but i was also scared as no post on xda even contains the model number MZB8511EU, i was afraid i'd get a model no one here has, thus getting higher risks doing wrong things and bricking my phone...
Finally it seems the model i received support B7/B20/B28 bands also, even thought informations about LTE bands on note 8 pro seem inconsistants and differ from a website to another... So i have no complaints about what i received, but it's still itching me not to know about that "EU model" MZB8511EU, which seem unkown here on xda...
Sorry for my poor english grammar, i haven't practiced since some long years now, and many thanks if you read this far...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/223764502768
Can anyone double check and see if there's any issues with this listing? I'm in Canada, if that matters.
Just making sure it's the international version with global Rom, if either of those matter or if they can be fixed or changed by me.
Or any concerns? Just need a second opinion.
squadz said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/223764502768
Can anyone double check and see if there's any issues with this listing? I'm in Canada, if that matters.
Just making sure it's the international version with global Rom, if either of those matter or if they can be fixed or changed by me.
Or any concerns? Just need a second opinion.
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Just checked it out. It states it has global firmware. Oos 10.0.3 but doesnt state anywhere in the description the model of the phone. Judging from where it ships from Hong Kong i think its a chinese variant HD1900 with global firmware. Shouldnt be a hustle as this is the same setup i use in Africa unless you are looking for specific network bands
It's the Chinese version. The International version only has 128GB storage.
I would look elsewhere.
I'm not sure what's been sold where, but here's a complete list of 7T variants:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnePlus_7T#Variants
A phone sold as the "international version" is almost always an HD1900--that is, the Chinese version. The HD1900 has both Chinese and international ROM's available, and I think which one it comes with is a matter of where you buy it--but even if you buy the Chinese version, you can download and flash an international version of the ROM through the settings menu.
Ideally, in Canada, you want the HD1905, but it's no longer sold anywhere, and you're going to have a hard time finding it--I had to buy a used one. That being said, both the HD1900 and the HD1903 (the European variant) will work in North America. The lack of certain bands, especially on the 1900, may affect your coverage in specific situations, but I personally used an "international" version of the 3T in the U.S. (that was before they had a U.S. version) with no problems.
Note that the HD1907, while probably also suitable for your purposes, comes network-locked, and you'll have no way to unlock it unless you first activate it on T-mobile or a T-mobile MVNO--so avoid that one.