Short and sweet, do I buy the US 7x for $200 or the Mate SE for $230 with 2x the RAM/ROM?
Seems pretty obvious (go with the SE), but I do care a lot about updates and rooting/roms so just curious what peoples thoughts are there.
Any input?
Sean
I always use gsm arena for phone specs. If you look there (for Honor 7x), and select version 'L24', it will show 'for USA, also known as the Mate SE' (they don't have a separate listing for the Mate SE).
Basically, they are identical phones, so as far as updates etc, they should be the same. Also read on one of the 'twrp for 7x' threads that someone followed the same procedure on their Mate SE and it worked fine. Being the anal type, and knowing they are basically identical, I still verified the Mate SE has the separate vendor partition, required for treble.
Works with T-mo? I'm sure the 2 are the same, but just read they only have 3 of the 5 lte bands t-mo uses. Except, 1 of those bands, B71, only 2 phones in the world have connectivity with! That's the new 600 MHz spectrum T-mo just bought, so that one almost shouldn't even be counted. My SE connects great with t-mo where I am, I'm sure the 7x would be identical.
Which one to go with? honestly, unless yer a heavy user of simultaneous apps, either one. Do you prefer grey or black?
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_7x-8880.php#l24
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Hi all,
Just got my touch pro 2 for T-Mobile (unlocked for AT&T) and love it.
Question:
Is there a dimensional difference between all the versions out (Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, original HTC)?
I am trying to get a shell (hard skin) similar to what I had on my Nokia 5800, but the guy that is selling it is telling my that his supplier says it won't work on T-Mobile due to size.
I can understand if the cutouts don't match, etc, but are there actual difference in sizes?
Thanks,
Jerry
There is a differences in dimensions.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...&id3=1792&id4=1829&id5=1766&id6=1989&id7=1751
More info and pics with the diferences:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=model
Thanks for the links.
I'm surprised at the differences, it's almost like each carrier's is a little different in size, is that normal?
I would think it would just be cosmetic differences not actual size.
sanscritt said:
Thanks for the links.
I'm surprised at the differences, it's almost like each carrier's is a little different in size, is that normal?
I would think it would just be cosmetic differences not actual size.
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Normal for the USA market...anything goes with our carriers
Just launched yesterday live with rock concert and all.
This one is different from the T-mobile version as it comes exactly like the SGS i9000 with the front camera and all its whistle, plus a few more extra apps, but it runs on the 850 instead of the 900 and it's apparently locked, the international 900 is unlocked
So... are we going to get a new forum for this variant of the Galaxy S, or should we go with this suggestion that many has agreed on this topic?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723076&page=3
to amalgamate all the Galaxy S variants into one organized Samsung Galaxy S forum, then a General section for each sub variant(carrier), else if we keep the current model, we'll have way too many duplicated forums for the same thing, also the development/messages will not be transparent to end users specially those not aware all these models are the same.
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I guess one important question is: Are ROMs and root methods interchangeable (or nearly so) between the Bell Vibrant and the international versions? If so, then discussion of the Bell Vibrant belongs in the international Galaxy S forum.
the only difference is the radio band, just like the New Zealand model and China model
they are all GT-i9000, but all 4 models (Euro, Asia, NZ, Canada) each runs on a different set of Quadbands
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it might be okay to have the Asia and NZ thrown into the same bucket as SGS i9000
but the Bell model is not known as i9000, rather it is advertized as Samsung Vibrant, yet it is not the same Vibrant that is already in the forum, because the T-mobile Vibrant is different from the Bell Vibrant.... see what i'm getting at?
it would have made sense if bell kept it as i9000, rather than Vibrant
Right, the radio band is different.
Now on some phones this makes no difference firmware-wise: You can load the same ROMs on an "AT&T" or "T-Mobile" Nexus One and it will work on whatever frequencies the phone has.
On others it does make a difference: Motorola Milestone firmwares are specific to either UMTS 850/1900/2100 or 900/2100. Installing the wrong firmware results in loss of 3G in non-2100 countries and degraded 2G performance too. There is a group of files one can copy from one ROM over top of another to force it back to the right bands.
Of course there is only one way to find out... someone needs to obtain a Bell Vibrant, try to root it with the same method, and make a full nandroid backup for safekeeping. Then load on a ROM or nandroid backup from an international Galaxy S. See if it still boots, if 3G still works, etc. I suppose there is a small risk of bricking too though
according to a couple of users that got hands on the device already, they were able to flash the unlocked i9000 firmwares into the Bell Vibrant (still locked)
Hi All,
I returned my "Captivate" especially to buy this phone & however neither "Bell" site nor "Samsung Canada" posted what are the frequency bands but it has the 3G 850 required for AT&T here. I suggest to stick with the international I-9000 Thread because After rooting we will have the same things in common with it.
Thanks
I just called "Bell" & they told me that they unlock the phone for $75 & then I called them again & the Rep wasn't that helpful. I'm willing to pay any amount of money to sim unlock it, any of you guys know a "Guaranteed" site for that?
http://www.unlockallcellular.com/samsung-vibrant-unlock-code-np-59886.html
35$ but there aren't many choices out there.
guys please go here for SGS i9000 questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=656
this topic was open to update/re organize the forums for SGS i9000
please don't hijaak the topic
thank you
mkurzum said:
35$ but there aren't many choices out there.
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they don't work, it has a big NO says a not available
Anyone knows any site to buy this phone online & have it shipped to usa?
again, more updates for the Moderators
please see page 3 and 4 of this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723076&page=3
it is increasingly becoming more confusing and hard to keep up with the different forums, dealing with the same phone
here is yet another perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750947
of people having bricked their phone due the confusion we have in the forums.
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I just called "Bell" & they told me that they unlock the phone for $75 & then I called them again & the Rep wasn't that helpful. I'm willing to pay any amount of money to sim unlock it, any of you guys know a "Guaranteed" site for that?
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Hey guys, I just unlocked mine. there is an app called samsung galaxy s unlock.. It is a free app too.. but it works for the bell galaxy for sure.. pass it on..
I'd love to get the Tab S 8.4 LTE (T705) but the LTE support in North America is severely lacking (only 2600MHz is supported by both my carrier and the device. I would also want 700 and 1700/2100).
I've seen mention of an "M" variant for South America (mostly Brazil) that also supports the NA frequencies but I'm coming up blank on a suitable source to purchase one. I've found a bunch of what look to be carrier websites but nothing in English and the prices, after exchange, seem to be significantly higher that what I can buy the non-"M" model for.
Does anyone know what the physical differences are between the "M" and the base version, if any?
Are they actually different or are they just using a custom radio firmware in the "M" to support the SA frequencies?
Would it be possible to flash an "M" radio firmware on the standard model to change the operating frequencies?
Thanks in advance.
Good questions, I have no answers, but the new AT&T model might be what you need. Carrier bloat beware.
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Good questions, I have no answers, but the new AT&T model might be what you need. Carrier bloat beware.
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Never mind carrier bloat, it's what they're taking away that concerns me.
It looks like, in typical fashion, they have disabled the phone features of the device. I don't see any mention of being able to use it as a phone on the pre-order page and the one picture of a home-screen does not have a dialer icon.
It's possible that's the SM-T707A, though. Time will tell; this is still a new device so we'll see what happens when it finally gets into peoples' hands.
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It looks like, in typical fashion, they have disabled the phone features of the device.
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The photos don't show an earset opening, so yes, no phone features in the ATT model. Well, I'm at the point of waiting for the Nexus 9 anyway before I make a decision on a new tab. I really like my Note 10, but would prefer it without touchwiz/magazine/etc.
Any luck on finding a place to buy it from yet? I can't find someone to ship to the us.
I just purchased mine a month ago. The only place I found it availible was on ebay. If you want the phone version of the Tab S make sure you purchase SM-T705. This is the phone I purchased. Tab S with phone capability, and factory unlocked.
I have the t705m bought in Brazil (unlocked) however I regret the day I purchased this tablet. I can't get along with Samsung useless apps I can't uninstall and couldn't find an alternative ROM for this device.
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I have the t705m bought in Brazil (unlocked) however I regret the day I purchased this tablet. I can't get along with Samsung useless apps I can't uninstall and couldn't find an alternative ROM for this device.
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taking a chance here...
do you still have this item? If so, are you interested in selling it? Thanks
does this specific model number contain 4G-LTE grequency band B3(1800Mhz)
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Ibtisaam said:
does this specific model number contain 4G-LTE grequency band B3(1800Mhz)
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It supports:
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
B20 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#9439#*#*
B8 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#4636#*#*
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It supports:
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
B20 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#9439#*#*
B8 can be activated through key kombo: *#*#4636#*#*
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Is this the same model? Is it a good phone for the price still, the deal at the link below is very cheap.
http://www.tinydeal.com/letv-le-1-pro-55-2k-snapdragon-810-4gb-ram-64gb-rom-4g-phone-p-159277.html
Does anybody know how many hardware versions of the smartphone out there?
Or there is one and frequency selection is software dependent?
best deal at gearbest
You can buy at gearbest with 12 months warranty versus 6 months for less money, 164 euros with promo code "CellPhones8"
Hope it helps
I am a little confused here.
Both TD and gear best carry the 1 pro. Gearbest shows that the phone has band 7 (2600) and until today, tiny reflected that as well.
6 days after ordering from tinydeal, I have received an email from them stating the phone does NOT support band 7. Every other seller and device specification site says bands 3&7 are supported.
Finding official documentation has been a bit of a daunting task.
Advice, anyone?
I'm kind of confused about the phone, too. There seem to be three models floating around in stores, a regular one with bands B1/B3/B7/B38/B39/B40/B41, one with B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26, and an International one with different bands listed as well. Yet the manufacturer only seems to list the B1/3/7/38/39/40/41 model. Is this true? Does the second model I listed with B2/4/5/17 have full AT&T LTE support in the US?
Im really not sure. Too many conflicting reports. I think I'm going to cancel my order in the morning. I asked about the bands on the official tech support Le forum, and they referred me to their Hong Kong forum while completely dodging the question.
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here: http://cn.lemall.com/le_1pro/parameter.html
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
Calebz said:
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here:
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
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I just received mine from Coolicool today. Popped in my Cricket sim card and LTE Discovery lists me as being connected to Band 17 right now. This must be an updated model, as it appears that the newly listed bands are correct. Maybe this is a sign that they're actually moving forward with releasing the phone in the US? If anyone suspects that LTE Discovery might be wrong, please point me to a better utility.
For the record, I purchased mine from Coolicool. As of today, all of the other models have been removed (the two with the different bands listed and the international version) and this is the sole model up for sale. It won't allow me to post a link because I'm new here, but it's the featured product on the upper right side of the screen.
ProppaT said:
I just received mine from Coolicool today. Popped in my Cricket sim card and LTE Discovery lists me as being connected to Band 17 right now. This must be an updated model, as it appears that the newly listed bands are correct. Maybe this is a sign that they're actually moving forward with releasing the phone in the US? If anyone suspects that LTE Discovery might be wrong, please point me to a better utility.
For the record, I purchased mine from Coolicool. As of today, all of the other models have been removed (the two with the different bands listed and the international version) and this is the sole model up for sale. It won't allow me to post a link because I'm new here, but it's the featured product on the upper right side of the screen.
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Can you unlock B20 band? Try this please.
laek.17 said:
Can you unlock B20 band? Try this please.
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The option is missing from the first menu. The second menu says CDMA and has a box you can check. I have no way of knowing what it did or if it works, as I don't live in an area that using Band 20. All I know is that I'm definitely getting Band 2 and 17, which haven't been available up until this new batch started shipping out apparently. The specs on the site I bought from specifically says no Band 20 support, so I'm guessing this doesn't work.
Calebz said:
Update: A forum moderator sent me to the 'official' sales site here: http://cn.lemall.com/le_1pro/parameter.html
Three variants listed. All three have the same FDD-LTE bands of 1/3/7
In today's email from tinydeal they told I that the phone ordered supports B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B12/B17/B25/B26.
I'm kinda torn now.. at under $200 it's not a huge risk.. But I'm already kinda tired of dealing with the crap of finding just the basics on this device. How much harder will it be when I have it in hand and need to do something more advanced?
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Have you got it yet?
Does the 3 and 7 bands work?
I received one today, bought in Tinydeal and can confirm that it works in the band 4 Tmobile.
Can you please share your experience with the new phone. Battery, hit, camera, games for more than 30 min.
Thanks
twd123 said:
Have you got it yet?
Does the 3 and 7 bands work?
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I cancelled the order, ordered another from gearbest that did indeed work on bands 3&7 ( 7 being the important one for me - Free mobile in central France). Sold it after a couple days because the phone was just too damned big and the software was a mess.
Actually thinking of buying another one as a spare. My Nexus 5 did something wonky yesterday and I don't want to have it fail and get caught in a situation where I don't have a phone.
Calebz said:
I cancelled the order, ordered another from gearbest that did indeed work on bands 3&7 ( 7 being the important one for me - Free mobile in central France). Sold it after a couple days because the phone was just too damned big and the software was a mess.
Actually thinking of buying another one as a spare. My Nexus 5 did something wonky yesterday and I don't want to have it fail and get caught in a situation where I don't have a phone.
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Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
I looked on all official LeTV/ LeEco sites (Global, India, HK, China) but don't seem to be able to find an "international version". Does anyone know where to find official information rather than from resellers?
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Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
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No, I decided not to order another one. I thought I could get past my dislike of 5.5 inch phones, but just too big for daily use for me. 5.2 inch seems to be the sweet spot, so that's where I'm focusing my attention at the moment - though that is presenting it's own set of challenges.
I'm using a nexus 5 at the moment. I would like a little better battery life and a little larger screen, but I'm not dying for a new phone at the moment.
If I do find myself in a spot where I have to replace my phone and I can't find a 5.2 inch that checks all the boxes (big one being budget), I'll probably just stick with a 5 inch phone.
Right now the top two are the xiaomi mi4c and the huawei p8.
I would rather go with an Mi5 or P9 but they're out of my price range.
twd123 said:
Did you order the same phone from gearbest?
I bought it from gearbest and in 5 days it already arrived
The software is a mess, so i installed cuoco92 rom
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I looked on all official LeTV/ LeEco sites (Global, India, HK, China) but don't seem to be able to find an "international version". Does anyone know where to find official information rather than from resellers?
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I don't think an official international version exists. At least thas what I gathered from talking to some LeTv support people on their forums. Everything sold outside of HK/China and India is considered gray market, as far as I can tell.
Hi
As @Some_Random_Username found out, there seem to be different hardware-variants of the OP7T see this thread. The primary reason for this appears to be WWAN-band support (4G/5G).
I recently noticed the 7T European SKU(HD1903) dropped support for the important LTE-band 71. This makes it a bit less global. The Euro SKU is also missing 30, 46 and 48. It does get LTE-bands 40 and 32 (missing form USA-variant HD1905) in return the latter which does not appear to be in use anywhere.
I have contacted OP via the FCC contact and also via support to find out more. If there are HW-differences, we should be able to seem them by looking at the IC's Oneplus uses: their spec's determine which frequencies the handset can accomodate. Also the antenna's are important: sometimes a dedicated antenna is placed for a specific band. At any rate, it is a bit strange to split the SKU's merely for adding band-32 to the EU-variant.
There has to be more to it than that: licencing costs and chip costs coming to mind first.
Maybe you will also find such nitty gritty details fun to know. At least I am having fun in checking this out
Useful sources:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25
https://nl.ifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+6+Teardown/109826
https://technology.informa.com/api/binary/604996
I was on the edge myself when deciding which variant to purchase...the bands were the deciding factor I'm in the states so didn't want any issues using my data. I wanted the Chinese variant just to be able to say I have the Chinese 7t and the symbols on the box ? ROFL but yeah copped the US variant directly from OP ? I love it...
Take a look at this:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/oneplus-7t