Will the Samsung adaptive wall and car chargers work with the Pixel XL 2?
If its USB c why wouldn't it ?
I'm referring to the fast charging aspect.
Salval said:
I'm referring to the fast charging aspect.
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from my understanding it'll charge, but not at the fast or quick charge rates. pixel phones are supposedly following the USB-IF standards, so for faster charging, you'll want a USB power delivery power source. I believe I read a post by Benson Leung on g+ that the pixel will get the best charge from 18W chargers (6 volt, 3 amps?)
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from my understanding it'll charge, but not at the fast or quick charge rates. pixel phones are supposedly following the USB-IF standards, so for faster charging, you'll want a USB power delivery power source. I believe I read a post by Benson Leung on g+ that the pixel will get the best charge from 18W chargers (6 volt, 3 amps?)
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This is correct, Samsung uses the proprietary QC fast charging that doesn't follow the spec. Google uses PD. You'd need a PD charger to fast charge the phone.
charging yes
fast charging NO
you will need PD charger for that
PD for fast charge. Sammy won't work
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monkey_knight said:
from my understanding it'll charge, but not at the fast or quick charge rates. pixel phones are supposedly following the USB-IF standards, so for faster charging, you'll want a USB power delivery power source. I believe I read a post by Benson Leung on g+ that the pixel will get the best charge from 18W chargers (6 volt, 3 amps?)
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18W in the PDrev2 spec is 9v2a as it does not allow >3 amps until you hit the 20v source power.
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Found out today that QC 4 charges are PD compatible, so maybe?
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Hi,
I have noticed my phone charges much quicker via the USB on my PC. It takes about 2 hours to charge fully, while the wall charger takes 3-5 hours to charge like 40% or something.
The specifications for the wall charger are:
INPUT: 100-240V ~ 50/60Hz 0.2A
OUTPUT: 5.1V=== 850mA
I do'nt know what the specs for my USB port are? Can I check it in the BIOS? I have googled and found it's something around 5V 500mA, so technically my phone would charge slower...
This is how the wall charger looks like (you can unplug the USB-cable and use it on the PC since it's not a standard USB-mini connection).
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I do'nt know what the specs for my USB port are? Can I check it in the BIOS? I have googled and found it's something around 5V 500mA, so technically my phone would charge slower...
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Well the 500mA is the minimum spec for USB, basically they say its at least 500mA so that manufactures know how much power to expect and can design devices to run at that amount of power or less. That being said, USB can be anything above 499mA, I have seen a laptop put out 2000mA before even. So yes it is quite possible that your computer could put out over the 850mA of your charger. It probably won't say what its capable of delivering in your BIOS, if you really want to know you could try to find the specs for your computer/mobo/usb chipset. All that being said, you could always get a different USB wall adapter if you wanted to charge faster w/o a computer, just because it came with the one you currently use doesn't mean you have to use it (it is just a powered USB port after all).
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It probably won't say what its capable of delivering in your BIOS, if you really want to know you could try to find the specs for your computer/mobo/usb chipset.
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Thanks, I will have to look into this, since someone else was implying my charger is broken...
dalkor said:
Seems like your wall charger is defective, normally It takes about 1.5-2 hours for working wall charger to make the job done.
Standard PC USB port output is 5v==500mA, so it's strange that you can fully charge 1140 mAh battery just in 2 hours.
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So I was wondering, When I dont use My dash charger the OP3 only charges with a maximum of 1.5A eventhough im using the Dash cable.
Is there a way to up this number to like 2.0A/2.4A with a custom kernel or something in that matter?
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No, if you're not using both dash charger and cable you're stuck at standard 1.5A.
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1.5A is limit of most cables so.. u can change it with the chance of a melting cable.
I would be quite unwise to go higher.
I have blitzwolf USB c cables that can handle up to 3 amps
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1.5A is limit of most cables so.. u can change it with the chance of a melting cable.
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I have USB C cables from Blitzwolf that can handle up to 3 amps
Anthony1396 said:
I have USB C cables from Blitzwolf that can handle up to 3 amps
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Then idk..
While it can likely be done from the kernel side, I would advise against it. Some of the OnePlus 3 charging circuit has been offloaded to the Dash charging brick so we don't know how the phone/battery would react to a higher wattage standard charge. Could damage the board/battery or cause a fire.
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Some of the OnePlus 3 charging circuit has been offloaded to the Dash charging brick
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Exactly - this is the reason OP3 charges fast only with DASH and nothing else (except VOOC which is the same thing).
It doesn't have the necessary internals to handle other fast charging solutions. And everything above 1.5A at 5V is considered fast charging.
If it could be done safely, someone would do it already; the device has been out for months and there are many custom kernels and ROMs.
We have enough burning phones already *cough*Note7*cough*, please don't try to detonate our beloved OnePlus 3 ?
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1.5A is limit of most cables so.. u can change it with the chance of a melting cable.
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USB-C can support far more (As is the case with the Nexus 5X/6P doing 3A) so the cable is not the issue.
the fast charging circuitry being offloaded to the charger itself is likely the main reason the phone can't do more than 1.5A, and if so, SW mods can't change that since it's a HW capability the OP3 lacks.
Honestly, there was no reason for this phone to have USB-C at all in terms of charging speed - this could have been done the same with microUSB.
This item has the QI/PMA Wireless Charging. Does this item support the FAST wireless charging?
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http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/29883c73
The official brand QI charger comes in 2 varieties:
- Samsung Fast Charge Qi Wireless Charging Pad
http://ca.shopandroid.com/samsung-f...arger-included-black-sapphire/5A233A22384.htm
- Samsung Mini Wireless Charger
http://ca.shopandroid.com/samsung-mini-wireless-charger/5A233A24013.htm
Is it necessary to use/need the 2A charger? I read somewhere that there is a possibility of damaging the Wireless Base if you do not use the 2A charger.
Is using your USB port on your PC not recommended, other than for the fact it's only .5A and will need all night to charge?
Any user verified info on this will help me in making a decision regarding a purchase.
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This item has the QI/PMA Wireless Charging. Does this item support the FAST wireless charging?
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/29883c73
The official brand QI charger comes in 2 varieties:
- Samsung Fast Charge Qi Wireless Charging Pad
http://ca.shopandroid.com/samsung-f...arger-included-black-sapphire/5A233A22384.htm
- Samsung Mini Wireless Charger
http://ca.shopandroid.com/samsung-mini-wireless-charger/5A233A24013.htm
Is it necessary to use/need the 2A charger? I read somewhere that there is a possibility of damaging the Wireless Base if you do not use the 2A charger.
Is using your USB port on your PC not recommended, other than for the fact it's only .5A and will need all night to charge?
Any user verified info on this will help me in making a decision regarding a purchase.
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I only have experience with an Anker Qi charger which I bought a few years ago for a nexus 5.. If it doesn't get fed 2A, then it just sits there and no charging occurs, no LEDs light. Nothing. I'm guessing the Samsung would be equipped to ignore a power source that can't produce enough current without causing damage to the charger.
2A is necessary because the wireless charging process is lossy. I think my Anker states on the back that it outputs 1A, so that's a 50% loss. The Samsung is probably better than that, but will not be 100%. You'll never get a charging rate that's equal to directly plugging the phone into the supply. So even if a wireless charger existed that could work with a 1A capable power supply, it would be a bit pointless because the charging rate would be sloooow. These active phones have huge batteries, so it would be even less desirable.
Hope that's useful despite my lack of experience with the official wireless chargers.
Itian make some great, cheap fast wireless chargers that will utilise the 9V output of your official samsung charger. It isn't quite as fast as plugging in to the fast charger, but it is damn close and confirms 'fast charging wirelessly' when you pop it on there.
Mines in the mail, I got it from Ali, gsmarena (I think it was gmsarena...) says its QC3 AND PD at 33w.
Fairly certain the bundled charger won't natively work in my countries power points even though it will come with an adapter.
Can anyone tell.me what specific charging protocols it uses, is QC3, QC4, FC2 or PD? I wanna get a single port wall wart that does the top speed charge to leave in my man bag
Hey. According to SP870 spec it's QC 4+. When I was using the charger from the set Ampere showed me around 5800mA input.
Source: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-870-5g-mobile-platform
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Hey. According to SP870 spec it's QC 4+. When I was using the charger from the set Ampere showed me around 5800mA input.
Source: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-870-5g-mobile-platform
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Does that mean I should be able to buy anything PD 33w+ to charge at full speed?
Looks like, but I'm not an expert. Have not tested many adapters. I know one thing about it though. Huawei adapters didn't fit my Poco F1 in the past (they were too strong maybe, or had another standard).
I tested these two chargers
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And got these results (same order)
On the normal usb port of 2nd charger
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Hey. According to SP870 spec it's QC 4+. When I was using the charger from the set Ampere showed me around 5800mA input.
Source: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-870-5g-mobile-platform
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What cables are you using? I tried charge with xiaomi powerbank 45w pd or 45w aukey max I am getting 46xx with following cables
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Does that mean I should be able to buy anything PD 33w+ to charge at full speed?
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To achieve full charing speed you need mi turbo capable charger. You will see mi turbo instead of quick charge icon (attached ss) I tried official xiaomi powerbank 3 pro 45w pd using type c to type c (100w capable cable) it doesn't show mi turbo. So it's not full speed.
Update you guys it's using 11v3a I think, it's going to be harder to find one. Their faster charger uses 20v3.25a if not mistaken i seen a Huawei powerbank that has this. Can it give out mi turbo I don't know. I attach spec of their 55/65w charger and Huawei powerbank spec. I am atm looking for a mi turbo capable powerbank. Apologies in advanced for any mistake.
Hey everyone Baesus sent me over one of their new 65W GaN III chargers to test out (full disclosure, that is not a referral link). I was excited to try this product because it has 2 grounded outlets, making this similar to an extension cord with a multi-port charger. There are two USB C ports, both independently able to deliver 65w of power, two USB A ports (one 60w, one 5w) and the two aforementioned outlets.
As you might expect, once you start plugging in multiple devices the output power of each port drops. If you're using both of the USB C ports, C1 will drop down to 45w and C2 to 20w. In my testing I was able to achieve max charging speeds using C1 to charge my Chromebook and C2 to charge my Pixel, all while powering camera on either A1 or A2. The outlets didn't have any effect on the USB port output.
USB A2 can put out 60w when used on it's own, 18W when used with C1 (which would offer 45W) or 15W with C2 (which also puts out 15W). Using C1, C2 and A2 will offer 45W, 15W and 15W, respectively. A1 always puts out 5w, regardless of if used independently or in conjunction with any other ports. Higher powered laptops won't max out with any of these ports, but since this charger has two grounded outlets you can use the laptop's adapter to achieve full speeds, while still getting 65w out of the USB ports.
For me the outlets really set this apart as an accessory of convenience, and I'd highly recommend it to power users on the go. There are very few other chargers on the market that offers this much flexibility, and the ones I could find were twice this price and much less portable. Since this is GaN it remains nice and compact. There is an attached 4.9' cord with a flat plug. All in all this is a very well designed device, offering charging flexibility that can handle just about anything you can throw at it.
edit: they just provided me with a 20% discount code for xda: WN3YT4KV. again, the link I posted is not a referral link
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I grabbed a HyperJuice Stackable GaN 100W USB-C Charger hypershop.com/collections/hyperjuice-wall-chargers/products/hyperjuice-stackable-gan-100w-usbc-charger
Plenty of discount coupons can be found....
updated the op with a discount code baesus provided