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[Q] Getting Rid of Account

I've had my Inc2 for 10 months, and have 2 other phones on the account.
Can anyone tell me how you go about selling off your VZW contract.

Wait 14 more months, or pay a 350$ canceling fee.... I think
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plupien79 said:
I've had my Inc2 for 10 months, and have 2 other phones on the account.
Can anyone tell me how you go about selling off your VZW contract.
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how long do you have left on each phone contract wise? are the other 2 smartphones? what was the etf on each phone?
unless you have a documented history of issues with verizon over multiple phones/lines on ur account in regards to service, they wont let you out w/ etf or until you are off contract
id do the math on ur etf and decide what to do then

We've got 2 smartphones and one dummy phone. At $210 a month it's a bit steep.
The current ETF is $625 to end the contract.
Replacement phone plan is only $90 a month.
So $120 a month would pay off that ETF pretty quickly.
I've heard about some sites that would let users trade off thier plans and phones a while ago, I just can't remember anything else.

plupien79 said:
We've got 2 smartphones and one dummy phone. At $210 a month it's a bit steep.
The current ETF is $625 to end the contract.
Replacement phone plan is only $90 a month.
So $120 a month would pay off that ETF pretty quickly.
I've heard about some sites that would let users trade off thier plans and phones a while ago, I just can't remember anything else.
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in the past sprint and tmobile have had promotions where they would give you a certain $ credit for leaving another major carrier and porting your number, but i havent heard of any recently (last 6 months anyway)

Good to hear. But I'm not in Sprint territory, and T-mobile coverage where I live is a joke.

plupien79 said:
Good to hear. But I'm not in Sprint territory, and T-mobile coverage where I live is a joke.
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switching to att then? or regional carrier

Indeed, going with a regional carrier with prepaid service. More minutes, same texting, same data.
Found Cellswapper.com That's the gist of what I was looking for.
Also Praying for Verizon to change something that gets me a get out of jail free card.

plupien79 said:
I've had my Inc2 for 10 months, and have 2 other phones on the account.
Can anyone tell me how you go about selling off your VZW contract.
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We certainly don't want you leave us. Is there anything we can do to change your mind about canceling the service?
You do have the option of having someone take over the line by completing an Assumption of Liability (AOL) You would have to agree to release the line to them and after a credit check, they can take over the line and put it in their name.
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We certainly don't want you leave us. Is there anything we can do to change your mind about canceling the service?
You do have the option of having someone take over the line by completing an Assumption of Liability (AOL) You would have to agree to release the line to them and after a credit check, they can take over the line and put it in their name.
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I read since verizon changed pricing there is a way to get out of contract for free. Only haveso many days from the 1st of july. I can find the link.
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And sorry verizon does not care to loose buisness. I have been with verizon for 10 years 3 phones. I called to see if i could upgrade 3 months early to 4g to keep unlimited and they said no. I let them know i will pull my family off and they do not care! I will find the link to get out if contract for free. Let your supervisor anothef family will be leaving after 10 years. You guys are doing a great job lol sprint here comes everyone from verizon. Verizon is a joke they only rely on their service.
http://www.droidmatters.com/news/wa...-break-free-without-an-early-termination-fee/
This is a older one i seen a recent one i will find it
Verizon cares about breaking root more than taking care of long time customers!
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Why is verizon even on xda
A: to figure oit how to break root and screw us more
B: Damage control since they know they are loosing customers.
Why doesnt verizon worry about putting out uodates to fix issues instead of trying to break root all the time.

Though I have been happy with Verizon for the past 8 years or so, I too may look elsewhere when my contract is up.
Getting too expensive. Baby takes up all my monies. :beer:
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I've only been satisfied with Verizon coverage. However, I've been sick of their constant price changes and lack of software updates (significant ones anyways). Gonna go to Sprint after my contract ends and awaiting the end of the Verizon contract.
Sent from my Galaxified ICS phone! Don't be hating bro!

Where is the verizon rep? Keep reading and get the hint this is not going to help your buisness. But i am sure the other carriers are loving you for sending all your customers away. Verizon has good coverage but everything else is a joke!

I too am looking to give up my 13 year relationship with vzw! The service is good in my area. But the magnitude of corporate greed, slow release of OTAs, and all the other bs is enough to turn my gaze elsewhere! Not that they care!
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For me it's really just about the money, the phone bill is getting out of hand, and I can switch to prepaid phones, with data for a lot less money each month.
and yes, babies do take up a lot of money.

I also want out of my VZW contract. If it were just me I wouldn't care about the price changes... The price difference isn't anything too extreme for me. However, I have my father and my grandmother on my plan -- both of them have basic phones and I only charge them $30 each month TOTAL. Their payment would basically double.
Plus I don't want to lose my unlimited data (even though I don't think I have EVER used over 2GB).
My husband is on AT&T (he desperately wanted the iPhone and didn't want to wait for VZW to get it) so I will probably end up switching unless Verizon changes their new pricing before next September.
The new Share Everything is DUMB. Plain and simple.

jessicahll said:
I also want out of my VZW contract. If it were just me I wouldn't care about the price changes... The price difference isn't anything too extreme for me. However, I have my father and my grandmother on my plan -- both of them have basic phones and I only charge them $30 each month TOTAL. Their payment would basically double.
Plus I don't want to lose my unlimited data (even though I don't think I have EVER used over 2GB).
My husband is on AT&T (he desperately wanted the iPhone and didn't want to wait for VZW to get it) so I will probably end up switching unless Verizon changes their new pricing before next September.
The new Share Everything is DUMB. Plain and simple.
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Are you saying you may switch to at&t to join your husband? If so keep in mind that they don't have unlimited data either.
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Are you saying you may switch to at&t to join your husband? If so keep in mind that they don't have unlimited data either.
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No, I know that. It would just be cheaper for us to be on the same plan by about $20. Since DH is ADAMANT about being able to use talk & data at the same time, I'll end up on his plan. Not my first choice, trust me. My very first cell phone in HS was a prepaid VZW plan. I've been with them now for 10 years with GREAT customer service. I'll be sad to leave.

Thinking of buying this phone from Wirefly.

I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.

Anyone?

it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
yup confirmed
$49.99
with a new Sprint account
look right under the price tag in small writing

Darunion said:
it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
yup confirmed
$49.99
with a new Sprint account
look right under the price tag in small writing
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Wow, I dont know how I missed that. lol
Thank you.

DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.

latindor17 said:
I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.
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Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.

obsanity said:
DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.
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What? I used Wirefly to get a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade on my T-Mobile account with absolutely no issues. They simply checked to see if I was eligible for an upgrade and once they verified that I was I purchased a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade for $200. They did not screw with my plan at all.
It was much cheaper than going through T-Mobile directly ($379 for the phone at the time) and they shipped the phone extremely fast. I'd use them again in a heartbeat.
** I should mention that I have since sold the Galaxy SIII and reverted back to the GNex because it just wasn't the same. But that's neither here nor there. :highfive:

Wirefly_Kim said:
Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.
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What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.

Wow. I didn't realize that when I did it. Luckily if you plan on sticking with your current contract for more than 6 months this won't effect you (like most people). But it would be quite annoying if you did need to switch carriers quicker than expected.
Good to know.

Morphling27 said:
What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?

jdiddy_ub said:
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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I'm pretty sure no additional tax is charged on top of the listed price. I think T-Mobile charged me an upgrade fee but instantly credited it back to me on my next bill.

Morphling27 said:
What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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jdiddy_ub said:
what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.

Wirefly_Kim said:
Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.
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I'm not asking about the tax for service.. i am asking about tax from the cost of the phone
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Buy it from costco wireless. $39.99 upgrade. No extra etf and they refund the $36 upgrafe fee. 90 day exchange. Dont even think you have to be a member.

classic plan vs value plan

can some one explain to me these plan
cuz i see that the galaxy s3 is going to be free with a clasic plan http://www.tmonews.com/2012/11/t-mobile-holding-two-day-samsung-sale-on-november-16th-17th/
so i want to know what is the deal

value plans are cheaper but you pay the full price of the phone with them , classic plans you get the phone cheaper but theyre more expensive

Was on my account when I read the OP so I copied and pasted what I found. On the CU adding a line is $10.00 per line, and the VP is $25.00
Hope this helps.
Classic Unlimited
Unlimited nationwide calling for two lines. Unlimited domestic messages (text, picture, and video) to share. Two-year agreement—great discount on phones. Two lines to start; add more lines if eligible Unlimited T-Mobile to T-Mobile calling. Unlimited Nights and Weekends
Value Plans
Unlimited Value—Talk + Text. This plan includes:Unlimited nationwide calling for two lines. Unlimited domestic messages (text, picture, and video) to share. Two-year agreement Two lines to start; add more lines if eligible starting at $0* Unlimited T-Mobile to T-Mobile callingUnlimited Nights and Weekends
The Small Print...
Limited-time offers;subject to change.Taxes and fees additional. Domestic only. Not all features or plans available on all devices.Unlimited features for direct U.S. communications between two people.Credit approval, $35 per line activation fee and two-year agreement required. Up to $200/line early cancellation fee applies to two-year agreements. If you switch plans you may be bound by existing contract term (and related $200/line early cancellation fee) and $35/line Even More Plus® activation fee may apply. You may be unable to switch to some plans. Additional requirements may apply to business customers; Premier and other business/association discounts may not be available. Regulatory Programs Fee (not a tax or government-mandated charge) of $1.41 per line/month applies. Taxes approx. 6%–28% of your monthly bill. Overage usage extra; partial minutes/data rounded up. Some calls/features involve multiple calls; each call incurs separate charges.Family Plans:Limit five lines. All lines of service must be activated in the same T-Mobile market and have the same billing address and area code.Nights and Weekends:Weekends are midnight Friday to midnight Sunday, and nights are 9:00 p.m. to 6:59 a.m. Monday–Friday, based upon start time of call.T-Mobile to T-Mobile calls*are directly dialed between T-Mobile customer devices while on the T-Mobile USA network (and not roaming on any domestic or international network); calls to voicemail and other T-Mobile service numbers not included.

They're the same when it comes to the services offered and the requisite 2 year agreement. The only difference is the price and phone subsidies.
The idea behind a Value Plan is that you get NO subsidies when it comes to phones and so, T-Mobile passes the savings to you. On a Classic Plan, you can get subsidized prices for phones, and, as a result, you pay more month-to-month. Now you need to decide and do you research and see what is the better option for you.
In my case (I need 4 lines for a Family Plan, and I buy my own phones off Criaglist/Ebay, or up-front), the Value Plan was a better idea. However, if you need a phone and can get in on some deals, then the Classic Plan may be better.
It all boils down to pure economics, nothing is ever free, it's just these american carriers have brainwashed the public that phones are "cheap" and plans are "expensive". And that's why most Americans are tied for 2 years to a large wireless bill and aging hardware.

i saw that the galaxy s3 was going to be free with 2 years agreement so i decide to get it and just pay 200 to cancel the contract and put it on the value plan

Since I have been with TMO almost 8 years we have been getting IMO great deals on phones. "Loyalty" department calls it corporate discount. At the end of Oct. I replaced my wife's Mytouch 4g with an S2, cost me 126.00 shipped overnight with a 100.00 rebate. Then ordered my Note 2 for only 250.00 shipped overnight and it came with a 50.00 rebate. Yes we signed a new contract but since the Mytouch was a "warrenty issue" we only had to extend one contract and to top everything we chose which contract to extend. So with 2 new phones under 300.00 and a contract extention to June of next year. You just can't go wrong with TMO.
You do have to have a silver tongue and negotiate. I call it playing the "corporate game"

Going along with the post 2 up, keep in mind, regardless of your carrier, you're always paying for your phone subsidy. Carriers don't really make money on devices. Why do you think you get locked into a 5GB or UL data feature when you upgrade on a classic plan?
I like the value because you have more flexibility. If I want to switch to a 5GB with hotspot, I can do it any time I want. Or pull off data all together. Also, no bs upgrade fees, and when you're finished paying off the phone, it's done. Unlike the classic or any other carrier where you keep paying for it.
The value plan eligibility is changing so I'd check in the coming months if you're eligible to switch.. If you're interested.
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If you plan on keeping your phone for 2 years, go with the value plan. It is very hard to resell a phone that has been purchased on the value plan until it is paid off.

There is never a scenario where the classic plan is cheaper than the value plan. Unless you call customer service and they give you a phenomenal deal on a phone.
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haldi15 said:
value plans are cheaper but you pay the full price of the phone with them , classic plans you get the phone cheaper but theyre more expensive
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I don't think i value that plan to much lol. .
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If you plan on keeping your phone for 2 years, go with the value plan. It is very hard to resell a phone that has been purchased on the value plan until it is paid off.
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Exactly. So with the big push to get customers on the value plan, which one do you think T-mobile prefers? They aren't going to try to get you onto a plan that will make them less money in the long run.

lowandbehold said:
Exactly. So with the big push to get customers on the value plan, which one do you think T-mobile prefers? They aren't going to try to get you onto a plan that will make them less money in the long run.
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Actually lastnight when buying the new Tab 2 the Rep suggested that I move over to the Value Plan since we are buying there newest phones, and tablets. Also I learned that with the VP you can make payment arrangements on phone purchace's.

vltchkr said:
Actually lastnight when buying the new Tab 2 the Rep suggested that I move over to the Value Plan since we are buying there newest phones, and tablets. Also I learned that with the VP you can make payment arrangements on phone purchace's.
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Umm, yea that is what I said. They want people on the value plan because you don't own your phone. If you don't pay your bill, the IMEI gets blacklisted and your phone is useless. On the classic plan, you own your device which is much better for people that switch phones often.

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There is never a scenario where the classic plan is cheaper than the value plan. Unless you call customer service and they give you a phenomenal deal on a phone.
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The only other scenario that's cheaper than a value plan is if you have a grandfathered plan. That's my dilemma right now. I'm holding on to my grandfathered plan as long as I can but I really want the Note 2 as well, but I don't have $500 to outlay up front even if I get it back as a rebate (which of course they'll try to screw over).
So I'm going to take a chance and call loyalty on November 16 to see what they can give me.

lowandbehold said:
Umm, yea that is what I said. They want people on the value plan because you don't own your phone. If you don't pay your bill, the IMEI gets blacklisted and your phone is useless. On the classic plan, you own your device which is much better for people that switch phones often.
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My bad, must of had my eye's crossed and T's dotted when I reading.
We are very happy with our service, lastnigh I bought the new Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 for 250.00 with a 50.00 mail in rebate. Unlimited data, talk, text, and hotspot for 20.00 a month
Let me ask you, you said your IMEI could get blacklisted for non payment. Couldn't you simply flash your phone and use another carrier or pre pay sim?

lowandbehold said:
Umm, yea that is what I said. They want people on the value plan because you don't own your phone. If you don't pay your bill, the IMEI gets blacklisted and your phone is useless. On the classic plan, you own your device which is much better for people that switch phones often.
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Value plan doesn't mean you don't own the phone. An EIP plan means you don't own the phone.
T-Mobile certainly can't blacklist phone you own ( ie Google purchased nexus 4) for non payment on a value plan. Best they can do is send you to collection for breaking contract on 2 year value plan unless you pay them the etf.
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vltchkr said:
My bad, must of had my eye's crossed and T's dotted when I reading.
We are very happy with our service, lastnigh I bought the new Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 for 250.00 with a 50.00 mail in rebate. Unlimited data, talk, text, and hotspot for 20.00 a month
Let me ask you, you said your IMEI could get blacklisted for non payment. Couldn't you simply flash your phone and use another carrier or pre pay sim?
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That seems like a fantastic price ($20)for unlimited data, talk, text, and hotspot. Are you sure that is what you are getting?
If it is, can you show which plan you are on? I want to see if I can duplicate the same deal.
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whatsitsnamenow said:
Value plan doesn't mean you don't own the phone. An EIP plan means you don't own the phone.
T-Mobile certainly can't blacklist phone you own ( ie Google purchased nexus 4) for non payment on a value plan. Best they can do is send you to collection for breaking contract on 2 year value plan unless you pay them the etf.
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That seems like a fantastic price ($20)for unlimited data, talk, text, and hotspot. Are you sure that is what you are getting?
If it is, can you show which plan you are on? I want to see if I can duplicate the same deal.
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On the Classic Unlimited with international text, discounted international to the phillipines, with 6 lines.
The Tabs data is usually 35 bucks a month. But again tmo dropped the ball on me. Earlier in the day i had placed the order and i paid 250. Cash. Well it was weird as i didnt recieve any text or email notifications. When i got home from i called and 1. They put in the numbers wrong and ordered the Tab 7" 2. The damn thing was on bo. I wasn't to happy so after 30 minutes with loyaty I got to a sells agent who hooked it up. He couldn't give me anymore discount on the phone as I am already on the "corporate discount" he did give me the plan for 20 bucks. Plus a 50.00 rebate form.
I did have to extend a full 2 years on the Tab as its an added line.
Last month my wife got her SGH-989 for 26.00 after 100. Rebate and no contract extention
Did I mention my monthly bill is under 300.00

vltchkr said:
My bad, must of had my eye's crossed and T's dotted when I reading.
We are very happy with our service, lastnigh I bought the new Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 for 250.00 with a 50.00 mail in rebate. Unlimited data, talk, text, and hotspot for 20.00 a month
Let me ask you, you said your IMEI could get blacklisted for non payment. Couldn't you simply flash your phone and use another carrier or pre pay sim?
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Only overseas or in Canada. T-mobile and AT&T share an IMEI database now so AT&T will block it as well.
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Value plan doesn't mean you don't own the phone. An EIP plan means you don't own the phone.
T-Mobile certainly can't blacklist phone you own ( ie Google purchased nexus 4) for non payment on a value plan. Best they can do is send you to collection for breaking contract on 2 year value plan unless you pay them the etf.
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That seems like a fantastic price ($20)for unlimited data, talk, text, and hotspot. Are you sure that is what you are getting?
If it is, can you show which plan you are on? I want to see if I can duplicate the same deal.
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Yes, you are right. I was speaking strictly in regards to purchasing the Galaxy Note 2 on EIP and not using the value plan and BYOD.

Getting note 2 from tmobile on cheap

I am on galaxy s 3 and want to get this phone but dont want to upgrade my any line ( one of my line is upgradeable) and they offer me $100 credit towards it but I dont want data on that line.
I am reading about 200 down payment and 20 dollar per month to some month. Do we need upgrade for that?
I also heard samsung phones are on sell from this black friday. So how much its going to cost?
Any idea will be appreciated.
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The 200 and $20 per month is for the value plan, which is contract. Some sites have said the note 2 will be on sale for black Friday but the lowest I've seen so far is $50 off for renewing a contract or new line, so it's still not "cheap" anywhere, unless you get a good deal on Craigslist or ebay
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j_shelton1988 said:
The 200 and $20 per month is for the value plan, which is contract. Some sites have said the note 2 will be on sale for black Friday but the lowest I've seen so far is $50 off for renewing a contract or new line, so it's still not "cheap" anywhere, unless you get a good deal on Craigslist or ebay
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Actually, the sale on the Samsung phones is now over, I don't know if another round will be coming soon (I would not be surprised)...but on Nov. 16-17th, I purchased several Samsung Note 2 devices for my multi-line account at a price of $199.99 after mail in rebate (almost all other Samsung devices were free though, after mail in rebate). That is very cheap for a Note 2. I'm sure if you wait till after the new year, they will be giving them away for free in one of their sales events. T-mobile has been doing this for a couple of years now, and the sales are great! If you want to wait.....and yeah I know how hard it is to wait......you should be able to get it for free in a few months.
good luck!
oh yeah the price I paid is for the classic plan not the value plan.....it's simple, if you are on the classic plan you pay about $20 more per month and the device is highly subsided by T-mobile. If you go with the value plan the rate plan is $20 cheap per month, but no discount on the phones...you pay full price....but T-mobile will finance the purchase for you for free over 20 months. In the end if you want a flagship device and have multiple lines, it is cheaper to go with the classic plan (especially if you can swing the 15% corporate discount...I end up paying appox. $56/month for each line with unlimited everything no slowing down of my internet either).
Gool Luck on getting a great price on your purchase!

Explain me please whats difference between classic and value plan .
I have 4 lines on family plan with 59.99 for 1000 mins and different adds on (data , text) on each line ( differ as per line) ).
Its not prepaid .
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bikrame said:
Explain me please whats difference between classic and value plan .
I have 4 lines on family plan with 59.99 for 1000 mins and different adds on (data , text) on each line ( differ as per line) ).
Its not prepaid .
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Okay, think of it this way.....Classic plan is where T-mobile will subsides the price of the phone for you. So, if you sign a two year contract, they will give you a certain amount of money off the price of the phone. You get the device for free or you pay a small amount for it at the time you purchase the device. But in return for that they charge you $20 more each month for the classic plan.
The same plan specs but in a value plan range, will be $20 less per month...but they will not subsides the device for you at all. You pay 100% of the cost of the device. Now they will help you afford the device by taking a down payment from you and then charging your $20/month for 20 months on the device with no interest.
So in the end they are very similar in cost. Unless you have multi-line account and purchase flagship devices (especially when they have their free phone sales)...you can really clean up with the saving at those times. I just did an early upgrade (I called in and asked nicely and they allowed me to upgrade all 5 lines after only 8 months on our contract). So I purchased 2 Galaxy S3 devices for free and 3 galaxy Note2 devices for 199.99 after mail in rebate.
Also, with the classic plans they offer upto 15% corporate discount....no discount is offered for value plans. On top of it, if you call in and again ask nicely, you can get them to reduce the cost of your plan. I pay approx $56/month for unlimited everything on each line. That includes getting reduced rates, 15% discount, and being on a classic plan with the devices being highly subsides. I sell my older devices (S2 and S3 devices) and I end up making money on the devices rather than costing me anything. And $56/month is very cheap for everything included (no throttled internet either!! that is a big deal!!).
but if you want a cheaper device and want to keep it for as long as possible then the value plan may be a better deal. I can see situations where that would make sense for someone...but for me, I like a new device about once a year and I always get the flagship devices...with so many devices on my account...this is the best value for me.
I hope that makes sense...good luck

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Okay, think of it this way.....Classic plan is where T-mobile will subsides the price of the phone for you. So, if you sign a two year contract, they will give you a certain amount of money off the price of the phone. You get the device for free or you pay a small amount for it at the time you purchase the device. But in return for that they charge you $20 more each month for the classic plan.
The same plan specs but in a value plan range, will be $20 less per month...but they will not subsides the device for you at all. You pay 100% of the cost of the device. Now they will help you afford the device by taking a down payment from you and then charging your $20/month for 20 months on the device with no interest.
So in the end they are very similar in cost. Unless you have multi-line account and purchase flagship devices (especially when they have their free phone sales)...you can really clean up with the saving at those times. I just did an early upgrade (I called in and asked nicely and they allowed me to upgrade all 5 lines after only 8 months on our contract). So I purchased 2 Galaxy S3 devices for free and 3 galaxy Note2 devices for 199.99 after mail in rebate.
Also, with the classic plans they offer upto 15% corporate discount....no discount is offered for value plans. On top of it, if you call in and again ask nicely, you can get them to reduce the cost of your plan. I pay approx $56/month for unlimited everything on each line. That includes getting reduced rates, 15% discount, and being on a classic plan with the devices being highly subsides. I sell my older devices (S2 and S3 devices) and I end up making money on the devices rather than costing me anything. And $56/month is very cheap for everything included (no throttled internet either!! that is a big deal!!).
but if you want a cheaper device and want to keep it for as long as possible then the value plan may be a better deal. I can see situations where that would make sense for someone...but for me, I like a new device about once a year and I always get the flagship devices...with so many devices on my account...this is the best value for me.
I hope that makes sense...good luck
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Good explanation.
I see the plans being the same in the end, but for me the value plan is better.
Value plan you pay full price on the phone but plan is $20. Cheaper. Classic you get a discount on the phone but your plan is always $20 more than value. Im trying to save money ea mo so I paid off the phone to save the 20/mo.
Ill try your advice on getting a lower price on unlimited plan though. Thanks

This is the perfect use of the value plan...you pay off the price of the phone and then bank the $20 per month, each and every month you don't update your device. That makes perfect sense!
For me, since we always are updating our devices to the latest, greatest....it would not make any sense.
as of getting the lower price...call and ask to speak to account retention dept. They will put you on a $20 unlimited data plan (only retention dept has access to the account codes for this grandfathered plan) and they basically give you deeply discounted plan rates and still get discounts on the devices if you are willing to sign a two year contract. I believe I am paying very similar to a value plan pricing, but with a classic plan benefits with regards to the device discounts. I never accept the price quoted by sales rep. Always call account retention. I do that will all services I purchase from cell service to cable with TimeWarner Cable....you can save a ton of money by just asking nicely to have your rates reduced...it is amazing. Hell, I even get my credit card interest rates reduced that way also....just get the right person and ask nicely...if the rep doesn't want to do it for you...just hang up and call back...sometimes it is just that easy.
Good Luck with whatever plan you choose!

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This is the perfect use of the value plan...you pay off the price of the phone and then bank the $20 per month, each and every month you don't update your device. That makes perfect sense!
For me, since we always are updating our devices to the latest, greatest....it would not make any sense.
as of getting the lower price...call and ask to speak to account retention dept. They will put you on a $20 unlimited data plan (only retention dept has access to the account codes for this grandfathered plan) and they basically give you deeply discounted plan rates and still get discounts on the devices if you are willing to sign a two year contract. I believe I am paying very similar to a value plan pricing, but with a classic plan benefits with regards to the device discounts. I never accept the price quoted by sales rep. Always call account retention. I do that will all services I purchase from cell service to cable with TimeWarner Cable....you can save a ton of money by just asking nicely to have your rates reduced...it is amazing. Hell, I even get my credit card interest rates reduced that way also....just get the right person and ask nicely...if the rep doesn't want to do it for you...just hang up and call back...sometimes it is just that easy.
Good Luck with whatever plan you choose!
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Just to clarify... if I am a longstanding customer on a classic family plan and I call account retention to ask about upgrading one line to a Note 2 at the new contract price ($199) without disrupting any other services or changes that would affect the other 3 lines, they would be apt to do so as long as I extend that line's contract (or the contract in general) another two years? I just added all kinds of services recently but each line pays their own way so to speak, so I wouldn't want to have to switch to a value plan that might make everyone have to potentially pay more overall per month. I hope this is clear.
Thanks!

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Just to clarify... if I am a longstanding customer on a classic family plan and I call account retention to ask about upgrading one line to a Note 2 at the new contract price ($199) without disrupting any other services or changes that would affect the other 3 lines, they would be apt to do so as long as I extend that line's contract (or the contract in general) another two years? I just added all kinds of services recently but each line pays their own way so to speak, so I wouldn't want to have to switch to a value plan that might make everyone have to potentially pay more overall per month. I hope this is clear.
Thanks!
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yes that's exactly correct, you don't even need to contact account retention to upgrade your line. You can upgrade 1 line or you can upgrade all of them individually as you see fit. I will tell you, that I don't believe the 199 dollar sale is still going on. I believe right now the best price you can get it from T Mobile is 369 dollars, that might be where account retentions maybe able to help you out by reducing the cost of the phone for you. Also you want to see if they can reduce the cost of your data plan, put you like on an Android gandfathered plan that will cost you about 20 dollars, that's what I'm on.

Corporate discount applies to value plans too

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Oh really, I was not aware of that? When I switched to Tmobile about 3 years ago, I was told otherwise by the store clerk. I guess I wss told incorrectly. Thanks for correcting that information.

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yes that's exactly correct, you don't even need to contact account retention to upgrade your line. You can upgrade 1 line or you can upgrade all of them individually as you see fit. I will tell you, that I don't believe the 199 dollar sale is still going on. I believe right now the best price you can get it from T Mobile is 369 dollars, that might be where account retentions maybe able to help you out by reducing the cost of the phone for you. Also you want to see if they can reduce the cost of your data plan, put you like on an Android gandfathered plan that will cost you about 20 dollars, that's what I'm on.
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Funny you said that because as recently as yesterday, I checked and the new customer sale price was $199. The price today is in fact the regular $369, although they advertised til 12/20 on their site! Sneaky, sneaky...

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Funny you said that because as recently as yesterday, I checked and the new customer sale price was $199. The price today is in fact the regular $369, although they advertised til 12/20 on their site! Sneaky, sneaky...
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Yeah, that charge so much for this device as compared to the other carriers. I really don't understand it. I can only assume that their rate plans are so cheap, that they can not afford to subsides the device as much as the other carriers...but you know what, it doesn't bother me that much since I save so much overall being with T-Mobile.
I think they are a great company to be with, as long as they have coverage in your particular area....they can't be beat on price, and their customer service is exceptional (at least from my experiences with them - unlike AT&T, they SUCK!). Sprint always has billing errors, you have to call them each and every month to correct the charges, and Verizon...well they are just way to expensive to even bother with.
Stepping down from my soap box now.....

Value vs Classic will be different for everybody since there is many variables.
Value is best for me. When I was on classic on a family plan with 5 lines, 1 with 2gb data, one with 200mb data, and 3 without data, all with unlimited texting, 2 with unlimited minutes and 3 with 500 minutes I used to pay $225 per month including taxes. Now on value I pay $115 per month including taxes but I now have true unlimited data without throttling on the line I previously only had 2gb plus I added data to one of the lines that didn't have it previously. Everything else stayed the same. My end result is a savings of $110 a month.
I get new devices constantly but only on my line and not the others and I'm happy to pay full price since my savings clearly outweigh my new device addiction expenses.
Either way, you should go to your local store to find out what would be the best deal for you......just as long as you get a smart rep you should be ok.
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T-Mobile Will End Phone Subsidies Next Year

Well guess i should start saving for my Galaxy Note 3 now huh,this sucks but if this will keep them in business,I'm kinda fine with it. http://www.businessinsider.com/t-mobile-to-end-phone-subsidies-2012-12
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This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!

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This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!
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atomclock said:
This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!
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What do you propose, that they turn their whole business to prepaid? They'll be bankrupted in less than a year.
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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.

Most the GSM world doesn't subsidize their phones, and they have much more competitive prepaid plans. The average American is so used to phone costing $99 or even free, they don't realize that the provider is making a killing on their contract.
And if this drives down the value of t-mobile enough for Google to buy them, I am all for it!

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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.
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Maybe they wont charge for cancellation if the customer decide to cancel before the end of the contract. And if the customer decide to cancel his contract he is going to pay the rest of his phone before canceling.

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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.
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They already do that. You must sign a two year contract to get their plan pricing.

This is fine by me as i usualy switch phones every 4-6 months. Craigslist is where i usually shop.

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They already do that. You must sign a two year contract to get their plan pricing.
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Yeah, we've been doing it since August of last year, the value plan is nothing new, and it ends up being the same price monthly or even less depending on the phone you get. And you pay less up front for the phone.

I don't know about you guys freaking out, but they're simply getting rid of the Classic Plans and moving everyone onto the Value Plans...
Since I always buy my phone off contract, this is better since I save more month to month

achusaysblessyou said:
I don't know about you guys freaking out, but they're simply getting rid of the Classic Plans and moving everyone onto the Value Plans...
Since I always buy my phone off contract, this is better since I save more month to month
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For me, this isn't great news depending on the details. If they're going to do away with grandfathered plans, then my phone bill would go up even with the value plan. If they allow grandfathered plans to stay, then it's not that big of a deal.

Value plan phones are less money up front than the subsidy ones and the plans are still cheaper month to month with the EIP. Not sure about "upgrades" before two years is up though.

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For me, this isn't great news depending on the details. If they're going to do away with grandfathered plans, then my phone bill would go up even with the value plan. If they allow grandfathered plans to stay, then it's not that big of a deal.
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I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.

with the new plans you would be saving $20-$30 a month on your bill and you can choose to buy the phone in full price right there or choose to buy the month in full price but through monthly installments which will still save you money over a 2 yr contract compared to todays model

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I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.
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Right now T-Mobile is not forcing you to change your plan when you upgrade your phone(s), but who knows what that may look like next year. I'm just glad we upgraded phones this year and I'll be all set for at least 2 years.

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What do you propose, that they turn their whole business to prepaid? They'll be bankrupted in less than a year.
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I believe T-Mobile is going to turn into contract only service. And Metro PCS is going to be the prepaid service. This is what I believe is the plan with the merge of T-Mobile and Metro PCS.
I guess just different naming product services under what will be the same roof.
I also wonder if Metro PCS will keep the $10.00 per month international calling plan after this merge? My wife has that service because she calls Peru so much.
All this makes me wonder if this merge is worth it for us customers or not?

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I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.
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They made me change my plan when I got my now 140.00 note 2 after 100 rebate . It cost the same. I got now unlimited text / before 300 unlimited internet / before none at all 1000 mins / before 750 :good::highfive::victory:

Classic plans are the same if not more then value plan, America refuses to see the true value of devices they still expect a phone to be free or really low cost. I think what tmobile is doing is great but I can also see the main reason is so they can carry the iPhone without paying the hefty fee other carriers have been paying to subsidize it. Everybody complains about buying the note 2 on classic and how tmobiles subsidized prices are too high compared to other carriers yet they don't also charge you the price other carriers do for the service. Value as I see it is the best thing you can have if you love changing your phone buy and sell at the right times and you can get yourself a new phone very often spending much less then doing it on contract, granted you will always pay some sort of out of pocket but that's the cost we paying for the love of our tech. I think if you put the note on eip you owe 400 make ten payments which is just ten months you will owe 200 in ten months, I'm sure the note can still go for 300 or more so you sell pay it off and buy your new device. Value plans with eip tend to be a bit less then classic and a good amount less then other carriers so yes the contract portion is hard to swallow but in the end tmobile is financing you a phone without regards to your credit with no interest and giving you a lower monthly rate. Value is a good system for the smart buyer and I'd be ok with the contract the way I see it tmobile still took a risk financing you for the contract and hopefully they continue there trends with good phone sales people who bought the note on the recent sale after rebate got the note for 500 which is a steal on this device at full cost.
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After watching the video I understand what they are planning with the service plans packages. Classic Plan no more. Value Plan is it. You can buy the device full price from T-Mobile or somewhere else then go for the Value Plan. Or you can go for the Value Plan and make payments toward your device, which would add to the cost of what is now the Classic Plan. I feel that this is good long term for the customer's pocket and to educate the customer of the truth of subsidies plan packages from other carriers.
When it comes to the merger: I would not of went to T-Mobile without having the knowledge that they merging with Metro PCS. I had a good feeling that this merger is a good thing, just didn't know how it would play out.
I am also curious on how the branding, especially the company names, is going to play out. The way they are talking it looks like they may have changed plans on the name banding plans.