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Value plan? How's it work?

I'm looking at trying tmobile but I have a question. I would be using the Sept 5th unlimited data package and probably an gs3. Will I have to pay monthly for $600 phone with 2 yr contract for value plan or does it put the phone down to $199 and I have to pay it off each month until fully paid? Sorry not really sure how it works. If someone can explain to me that'd be awesome. I just heard that value plan is the best.

Search. The magenta deal days takes the $150 + full tax and gives you back a $150 gc.. It's posted on here.
The EIP is $20/month for 20 months starting your 2nd or 3rd month. Value plans are cheaper than classic even with the EIP factored in.
You can also just get the SIM.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-magenta-deal-days-beginning-september-21st/

psykhotic said:
Search. The magenta deal days takes the $150 + full tax and gives you back a $150 gc.. It's posted on here.
The EIP is $20/month for 20 months starting your 2nd or 3rd month. Value plans are cheaper than classic even with the EIP factored in.
You can also just get the SIM.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-magenta-deal-days-beginning-september-21st/
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Can you do this on a family plan while having 4 smartphones? Everytime I try to do it on the tmobile website, it only has some flip phone available for 4 lines + value plan.

Call them. Or do live chat. I'm not a tmo employee so how can I answer that?

Ascertion said:
Can you do this on a family plan while having 4 smartphones? Everytime I try to do it on the tmobile website, it only has some flip phone available for 4 lines + value plan.
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You can compare the prices online with the value plans but I believe you would have to go in store to do EIP on Value Plan. I have a Family Value Plan that is 130 a month for 4 lines excluding the $20 EIP/month for one of my devices. So I pay roughly 150 before taxes but my discount takes care of the taxes.

We finally made the decision to go Value. If we went Classic we would be paying the same every month, except without having to pay an extra $100. T-Mobile.com's current promo price for the S3 (after rebates) on the Classic plans. The Classic plan that we looked at is $20 more per line than the comparable Value plan. But with the $20/month per line "financing" it evens out. We know we will lose out if we decide to leave T-Mobile within the first 9 or so months. Thats because we would pay the $200 ETF plus the balance on the phones.
Because of that we are going to every place we frequent to make sure coverage is good.

exdroid1 said:
We finally made the decision to go Value. If we went Classic we would be paying the same every month, except without having to pay an extra $100. T-Mobile.com's current promo price for the S3 (after rebates) on the Classic plans. The Classic plan that we looked at is $20 more per line than the comparable Value plan. But with the $20/month per line "financing" it evens out. We know we will lose out if we decide to leave T-Mobile within the first 9 or so months. Thats because we would pay the $200 ETF plus the balance on the phones.
Because of that we are going to every place we frequent to make sure coverage is good.
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Tmobile employee here. Just wanted to put in my 2 cents about the Value plans. I personally think they are great but it definitely depends on your situation. Most times the Value plans with EIP payments comes to the same price as Classic but you will have a cheaper down payment cost (in this case free for the phone after rebate). Another benefit is that EIP payments that are on your plan are not taxed since you already paid those taxes upfront so the monthly price is technically a bit less (depending on your city's tax).
Drawback is pretty much if you cancel, you will need to also pay off the rest of your phone but if you don't cancel, your bill will lower by the amount of the phone payments after 20 months. It is a great idea to check your coverage because you will definitely get the most benefit out of a Value plan as long as you stick with it for your full 2 years.

What if you bought the S3 of Craigs list and it's already paid off
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Crisisx1 said:
What if you bought the S3 of Craigs list and it's already paid off
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in this case, I would do the 50 a month plan, or have it unlocked and use simple mobile or that new solivali (spelling) company. they both use the tmobile network, not contracts.

durhamite said:
in this case, I would do the 50 a month plan, or have it unlocked and use simple mobile or that new solivali (spelling) company. they both use the tmobile network, not contracts.
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I don't think you need to have it unlocked... I think simple mobile accepts t mobile phones since they use t mobile towers
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T-Mobile plan question

What's the name of that plan that you can get unlimited everything but have to put down a deposit & pay a little extra each month? I was going to get this plan when I buy my SG3 later on this year.

Skip-Breezy said:
What's the name of that plan that you can get unlimited everything but have to put down a deposit & pay a little extra each month? I was going to get this plan when I buy my SG3 later on this year.
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The regular plans allow you to "finance" the cost of the phone over a certain # of months. Maybe clarify what you are looking for?

Value Plan

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This.
Realize you pay the full cost of the phone too, over time though. I just bought mine outright.
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I did the math 8 ways from Sunday and value plan costs way less in the long run than classic plan. T-mo will still put the phone on a payment plan for you that has no interest financing. So essentially you end up paying $20 a month until the phone is paid off, which is usually 20 months, as opposed to paying $20 more per month forever. Plus, if you bring your own phone, or find a good deal on an S3 (going for about $400 in these forums), you pay even less. That is if you can float your own initial costs.
It's such an under-rated plan. I have friends on the other 3 carriers who are eligible for upgrades, but aren't using them, because they are waiting for better phones, or don't want to renew contracts, etc. But the thing is, AT&T, VZW and Sprint all build the cost of subsidizing your phone into that plan. T-mo finally said, listen, if we don't have to pay for your phone, you can pay less every month. I wish all carriers would move to this as their standard. T-mo could ditch the classic plans in my opinion.

bradleyw801 said:
I did the math 8 ways from Sunday and value plan costs way less in the long run than classic plan. T-mo will still put the phone on a payment plan for you that has no interest financing. So essentially you end up paying $20 a month until the phone is paid off, which is usually 20 months, as opposed to paying $20 more per month forever. Plus, if you bring your own phone, or find a good deal on an S3 (going for about $400 in these forums), you pay even less. That is if you can float your own initial costs.
It's such an under-rated plan. I have friends on the other 3 carriers who are eligible for upgrades, but aren't using them, because they are waiting for better phones, or don't want to renew contracts, etc. But the thing is, AT&T, VZW and Sprint all build the cost of subsidizing your phone into that plan. T-mo finally said, listen, if we don't have to pay for your phone, you can pay less every month. I wish all carriers would move to this as their standard. T-mo could ditch the classic plans in my opinion.
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I like the classic plans. They can keep them.
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bradleyw801 said:
I did the math 8 ways from Sunday and value plan costs way less in the long run than classic plan. T-mo will still put the phone on a payment plan for you that has no interest financing. So essentially you end up paying $20 a month until the phone is paid off, which is usually 20 months, as opposed to paying $20 more per month forever. Plus, if you bring your own phone, or find a good deal on an S3 (going for about $400 in these forums), you pay even less. That is if you can float your own initial costs.
It's such an under-rated plan. I have friends on the other 3 carriers who are eligible for upgrades, but aren't using them, because they are waiting for better phones, or don't want to renew contracts, etc. But the thing is, AT&T, VZW and Sprint all build the cost of subsidizing your phone into that plan. T-mo finally said, listen, if we don't have to pay for your phone, you can pay less every month. I wish all carriers would move to this as their standard. T-mo could ditch the classic plans in my opinion.
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i just got this plan

bradleyw801 said:
I did the math 8 ways from Sunday and value plan costs way less in the long run than classic plan. T-mo will still put the phone on a payment plan for you that has no interest financing. So essentially you end up paying $20 a month until the phone is paid off, which is usually 20 months, as opposed to paying $20 more per month forever. Plus, if you bring your own phone, or find a good deal on an S3 (going for about $400 in these forums), you pay even less. That is if you can float your own initial costs.
It's such an under-rated plan. I have friends on the other 3 carriers who are eligible for upgrades, but aren't using them, because they are waiting for better phones, or don't want to renew contracts, etc. But the thing is, AT&T, VZW and Sprint all build the cost of subsidizing your phone into that plan. T-mo finally said, listen, if we don't have to pay for your phone, you can pay less every month. I wish all carriers would move to this as their standard. T-mo could ditch the classic plans in my opinion.
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I thought it was the value plan, thanks! My mom did the same thing when she got her G2 a while back & I'm do the same when I get my Galaxy.

bradleyw801 said:
I did the math 8 ways from Sunday and value plan costs way less in the long run than classic plan. T-mo will still put the phone on a payment plan for you that has no interest financing. So essentially you end up paying $20 a month until the phone is paid off, which is usually 20 months, as opposed to paying $20 more per month forever. Plus, if you bring your own phone, or find a good deal on an S3 (going for about $400 in these forums), you pay even less. That is if you can float your own initial costs.
It's such an under-rated plan. I have friends on the other 3 carriers who are eligible for upgrades, but aren't using them, because they are waiting for better phones, or don't want to renew contracts, etc. But the thing is, AT&T, VZW and Sprint all build the cost of subsidizing your phone into that plan. T-mo finally said, listen, if we don't have to pay for your phone, you can pay less every month. I wish all carriers would move to this as their standard. T-mo could ditch the classic plans in my opinion.
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+1 this
I, like you, also did in-depth analysis of cost savings of value vs classic plans. Value is always cheaper. And since TMO is essentially financing the phone for 0%, why not take the deal.

T-Mobile Will End Phone Subsidies Next Year

Well guess i should start saving for my Galaxy Note 3 now huh,this sucks but if this will keep them in business,I'm kinda fine with it. http://www.businessinsider.com/t-mobile-to-end-phone-subsidies-2012-12
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This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!

atomclock said:
This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!
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Wow,that kinda sucks...
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atomclock said:
This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!
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What do you propose, that they turn their whole business to prepaid? They'll be bankrupted in less than a year.
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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.

Most the GSM world doesn't subsidize their phones, and they have much more competitive prepaid plans. The average American is so used to phone costing $99 or even free, they don't realize that the provider is making a killing on their contract.
And if this drives down the value of t-mobile enough for Google to buy them, I am all for it!

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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.
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Maybe they wont charge for cancellation if the customer decide to cancel before the end of the contract. And if the customer decide to cancel his contract he is going to pay the rest of his phone before canceling.

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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.
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They already do that. You must sign a two year contract to get their plan pricing.

This is fine by me as i usualy switch phones every 4-6 months. Craigslist is where i usually shop.

mdt73 said:
They already do that. You must sign a two year contract to get their plan pricing.
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Yeah, we've been doing it since August of last year, the value plan is nothing new, and it ends up being the same price monthly or even less depending on the phone you get. And you pay less up front for the phone.

I don't know about you guys freaking out, but they're simply getting rid of the Classic Plans and moving everyone onto the Value Plans...
Since I always buy my phone off contract, this is better since I save more month to month

achusaysblessyou said:
I don't know about you guys freaking out, but they're simply getting rid of the Classic Plans and moving everyone onto the Value Plans...
Since I always buy my phone off contract, this is better since I save more month to month
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For me, this isn't great news depending on the details. If they're going to do away with grandfathered plans, then my phone bill would go up even with the value plan. If they allow grandfathered plans to stay, then it's not that big of a deal.

Value plan phones are less money up front than the subsidy ones and the plans are still cheaper month to month with the EIP. Not sure about "upgrades" before two years is up though.

nmw407 said:
For me, this isn't great news depending on the details. If they're going to do away with grandfathered plans, then my phone bill would go up even with the value plan. If they allow grandfathered plans to stay, then it's not that big of a deal.
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I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.

with the new plans you would be saving $20-$30 a month on your bill and you can choose to buy the phone in full price right there or choose to buy the month in full price but through monthly installments which will still save you money over a 2 yr contract compared to todays model

GMAN1722 said:
I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.
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Right now T-Mobile is not forcing you to change your plan when you upgrade your phone(s), but who knows what that may look like next year. I'm just glad we upgraded phones this year and I'll be all set for at least 2 years.

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What do you propose, that they turn their whole business to prepaid? They'll be bankrupted in less than a year.
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I believe T-Mobile is going to turn into contract only service. And Metro PCS is going to be the prepaid service. This is what I believe is the plan with the merge of T-Mobile and Metro PCS.
I guess just different naming product services under what will be the same roof.
I also wonder if Metro PCS will keep the $10.00 per month international calling plan after this merge? My wife has that service because she calls Peru so much.
All this makes me wonder if this merge is worth it for us customers or not?

GMAN1722 said:
I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.
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They made me change my plan when I got my now 140.00 note 2 after 100 rebate . It cost the same. I got now unlimited text / before 300 unlimited internet / before none at all 1000 mins / before 750 :good::highfive::victory:

Classic plans are the same if not more then value plan, America refuses to see the true value of devices they still expect a phone to be free or really low cost. I think what tmobile is doing is great but I can also see the main reason is so they can carry the iPhone without paying the hefty fee other carriers have been paying to subsidize it. Everybody complains about buying the note 2 on classic and how tmobiles subsidized prices are too high compared to other carriers yet they don't also charge you the price other carriers do for the service. Value as I see it is the best thing you can have if you love changing your phone buy and sell at the right times and you can get yourself a new phone very often spending much less then doing it on contract, granted you will always pay some sort of out of pocket but that's the cost we paying for the love of our tech. I think if you put the note on eip you owe 400 make ten payments which is just ten months you will owe 200 in ten months, I'm sure the note can still go for 300 or more so you sell pay it off and buy your new device. Value plans with eip tend to be a bit less then classic and a good amount less then other carriers so yes the contract portion is hard to swallow but in the end tmobile is financing you a phone without regards to your credit with no interest and giving you a lower monthly rate. Value is a good system for the smart buyer and I'd be ok with the contract the way I see it tmobile still took a risk financing you for the contract and hopefully they continue there trends with good phone sales people who bought the note on the recent sale after rebate got the note for 500 which is a steal on this device at full cost.
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After watching the video I understand what they are planning with the service plans packages. Classic Plan no more. Value Plan is it. You can buy the device full price from T-Mobile or somewhere else then go for the Value Plan. Or you can go for the Value Plan and make payments toward your device, which would add to the cost of what is now the Classic Plan. I feel that this is good long term for the customer's pocket and to educate the customer of the truth of subsidies plan packages from other carriers.
When it comes to the merger: I would not of went to T-Mobile without having the knowledge that they merging with Metro PCS. I had a good feeling that this merger is a good thing, just didn't know how it would play out.
I am also curious on how the branding, especially the company names, is going to play out. The way they are talking it looks like they may have changed plans on the name banding plans.

T-Mobile ending subsidized phones.

T-Mobile announced that in the coming months they will end discounted phones with a contract and go the European way and make you pay retail for any phone yet your monthly bill will go down a lot in price. How do you guys feel about this.?
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Some people will love it, some will hate it. Here in the states, we are spoiled, do the majority will hate it. If it goes too bad, then they'll go back to subsidies. To keep it during hatred, the other companies will do the same. I don't mind as I buy my own phones even when I was in a contract to try the latest phones. Hey, you win some, you lose some
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If they're doing it the way they generally have offered as of late, they may not do a carrier subsidy the way Big Red/Yellow/Blue do, but they'll allow you to do a "handset mortgage", where you can pay a "down payment" when you get the phone and then the loan will be a separate line item until you pay it off, which can be at any point.
I actually prefer this model because it allows you to pay more or less to decrease the amount still owed for your phone and potentially decrease your bill substantially once you're done paying the phone off. It will also allow for quicker upgrades because you won't have to wait two years until your contract rolls around again.
I'm not opposed to this model at all.
Joey

voyager529 said:
If they're doing it the way they generally have offered as of late, they may not do a carrier subsidy the way Big Red/Yellow/Blue do, but they'll allow you to do a "handset mortgage", where you can pay a "down payment" when you get the phone and then the loan will be a separate line item until you pay it off, which can be at any point.
I actually prefer this model because it allows you to pay more or less to decrease the amount still owed for your phone and potentially decrease your bill substantially once you're done paying the phone off. It will also allow for quicker upgrades because you won't have to wait two years until your contract rolls around again.
I'm not opposed to this model at all.
Joey
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If they offer that. Then I'll be okay with that. But I'm not OK with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...I got more important things to pay for lol. But then again on the bright side the bill per month is gonna drop sooo much
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I'm in Charlotte, and the store I went to has already gone through this transition. The plan price went down approximately $30. The down-payment was similar to the advertised price for the subsidized phones, and the monthly payments were $20, for twenty months. Overall, I'll pay $550 for phone retailed to cost $599, with a slight savings on the rate plan.
The big savings come after twenty months, when the phone is paid off. I'm not one to upgrade immediately, so I may save money on the rate plan for 6-12 months before buying a new phone. Where before, even if I didn't buy a phone, I was paying the monthly rate that included the subsidy.

zeekx4 said:
I'm in Charlotte, and the store I went to has already gone through this transition. The plan price went down approximately $30. The down-payment was similar to the advertised price for the subsidized phones, and the monthly payments were $20, for twenty months. Overall, I'll pay $550 for phone retailed to cost $599, with a slight savings on the rate plan.
The big savings come after twenty months, when the phone is paid off. I'm not one to upgrade immediately, so I may save money on the rate plan for 6-12 months before buying a new phone. Where before, even if I didn't buy a phone, I was paying the monthly rate that included the subsidy.
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So u can still get a new phone without paying retail?
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ddizzy81 said:
So u can still get a new phone without paying retail?
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Yes and No. ** I do not work for T-Mobile, but this is how I understand things **
EIP has existed for a very long time now and will continue to exist. T-Mobile is simply being upfront with customers instead of building in a subsidy into a rate plan. In almost every case, the customer wins.
Here's one way to look at it. Value Plan + EIP = Classic plan Either way, the upfront costs are similar. In one case, you call it a downpayment, in another you call it a price w/ 2 year contact extension. EIP is typically 20 months, which is better than the 24 months a full blown 2 year extension will be. Again, as far as the initial cost of the phone, the downpayment is essentially equivalent to the previously advertised price of the phone with contract.
This model does a few things from the perspective of a customer. It gives you the option of purchasing phones outright, or opting to get what essentially is a 20 month interest free loan from t-mobile on up to $400 towards the purchase price of a phone. When that loan is paid off, you are left with a nice and small bill for just the services you use, the voice, data, and text services provided by T-Mobile. This opens the door wide open for people to bring unlocked devices over to T-Mobile, and enjoy a low price monthly rate plan. Previously, the best way to do this was to buy an unlocked phone, buy a carrier phone with a 2-year extension, and sell the carrier phone and put that towards the price of the unlocked phone.
This really is a win for pretty much all consumers. People who want a low initial cost can opt for the EIP, people who bring their own devices can choose to do so and enjoy a low monthly rate, and finally people who keep their devices for a long time will enjoy a low rate after they complete their EIP payments.
The only time this is NOT advantageous is if you decide to break the contract prior to the end of the EIP term + value plan contract. For example, if I buy a new phone, start a EIP plan for 20 months, and sign up for a 2 year value plan, I would have to pay a $200 penalty to break the value plan, and also $400 to close out the EIP. Of course, the way to get around this is to sell the phone to repay the EIP.

ddizzy81 said:
T-Mobile announced that in the coming months they will end discounted phones with a contract and go the European way and make you pay retail for any phone yet your monthly bill will go down a lot in price. How do you guys feel about this.?
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as far as i know, t-mobile has already offer $50 contract free service in NYC. that includes 4g network, unlimit calling, texing, web, etc.
I am current simple mobile user, $40 each month, and it is great!
I am sure if ATT, Verizon, don't take any action, most of their customers will walk way.

My contract ends in may...its gonna be a big decision whether I'm gonna leave T-Mobile or not
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About a month ago a tmo rep told me they are doing this soon.
O well doesn't bother me lol
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Yeah its not all that new . Tmobile has been allowing people to break up their payments since they announced their even more plus plans. I think its a great option in present times for those that can't afford to fork out 500$ in one transaction.
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They already have offered this its called the "Value Plans", as apposed to the "Classic Plans" the value plans are only offered at t-mobile stores and since sept they have offered a truly unlimited data option on the value plan. thats the plan i have been on since i joined t-mobile in sept. the gs3 for me was 149.99 down with $20 for 20 months. (549.99) and my rate plan is 69.99 for unlimited everything. The one thing i dont like about the value plan is that even though you are paying full price for your phone in the end you are still on a 2 year contract with $200 early termination fee. and if you dont use all the minutes and want to lower your bill thats a whole new 2 year contract. T-mobile really shouldnt due that to its customers.

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They already have offered this its called the "Value Plans", as apposed to the "Classic Plans" the value plans are only offered at t-mobile stores and since sept they have offered a truly unlimited data option on the value plan. thats the plan i have been on since i joined t-mobile in sept. the gs3 for me was 149.99 down with $20 for 20 months. (549.99) and my rate plan is 69.99 for unlimited everything. The one thing i dont like about the value plan is that even though you are paying full price for your phone in the end you are still on a 2 year contract with $200 early termination fee. and if you dont use all the minutes and want to lower your bill thats a whole new 2 year contract. T-mobile really shouldnt due that to its customers.
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Well to be honest they kinda have to keep that early termination fee, because basically if they don't what's to keep you from leaving after you only payed 149.99 for a 800 phone. Even if you still decide to leave you only end up paying about 350. 200 fee plus the 150 you put down. This is coming from a guy who really dislike tmobile I'm just with them because I almost don't pay anything on a 5 line account. Really there's not much difference between classic and value when it comes to buying a phone both tie you to a 2 year contract and early fee.
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Isn't this pretty much the same thing as their Value Plan they've had for some time now? I've been on that plan for a bit over a year now. For me, the plus side is that over the course of a two year period, I'll end up saving roughly $1200 for two lines compared to my previous plan with everything unlimited.
The downside is of course the unsubsidized pricing of all the phones...completely ineligible for any special promotions, as well. If T-Mobile keeps that same plan model, people may find themselves paying for multiple devices at a time if they run into mishaps (theft, damage, etc.). Even with insurance, you'll pay a pretty penny for a replacement but will still be responsible for paying off the original. This would be a big adjustment for a lot of people in many ways, not just financially.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Edit: Chuck beat me to it LoL. I'm so not used to typing novel-length msgs on a mobile xD
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So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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dito33 said:
So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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Good question
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ddizzy81 said:
If they offer that. Then I'll be okay with that. But I'm not OK with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...I got more important things to pay for lol. But then again on the bright side the bill per month is gonna drop sooo much
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LOL...pay now, pay later. do the math. if youre on a classic plan, you still pay full price for the phone, you just pay for it a little a time added onto your monthly bill. so, you are okay with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...

dito33 said:
So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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Don't see why they would stop offering the extended insurance. If you're going to be paying for you're phone for 2 years you might as well have insurance that also extends the warranty for that long.
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The downside is of course the unsubsidized pricing of all the phones...completely ineligible for any special promotions, as well. If T-Mobile keeps that same plan model, people may find themselves paying for multiple devices at a time if they run into mishaps (theft, damage, etc.). Even with insurance, you'll pay a pretty penny for a replacement but will still be responsible for paying off the original. This would be a big adjustment for a lot of people in many ways, not just financially.
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Actually the promos DO apply. The last sale was a zero down sale, so you get your down payment back as a rebate. So instead of a $600 phone it's only $400. It's no different than a free phone with a higher monthly payment.

I haven't had a plan for years. If you look you can find a deal on craigslist sometimes ebay

[Q] Best price found on SGS4

So I haven't seen this type of thread yet, I was at my local Walmart and the tag was there but no phone, not even the dummy. It was listed for 198.88* and the * meant with qualifying upgrade or new agreement (2yr contract). I left there and dialed 611 and asked for retention to the bot operator. Once I got through, they wouldn't budge from 149 down and 20 bucks a month deal. I've been a T-Mobile customer since it was Voice Stream and the rep noted that, but still wouldn't budge. She suggested I go third party, but even at that route, I am not eligible for full upgrade until November. I have an old grandfathered family plan and I won't ditch it for the new plans just to get this phone, I'd buy a S3 before that happened. Anyway, has anyone gotten or found any better deals, Costco, Sam's (I didn't have time to stop in while on lunch).

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So I haven't seen this type of thread yet, I was at my local Walmart and the tag was there but no phone, not even the dummy. It was listed for 198.88* and the * meant with qualifying upgrade or new agreement (2yr contract). I left there and dialed 611 and asked for retention to the bot operator. Once I got through, they wouldn't budge from 149 down and 20 bucks a month deal. I've been a T-Mobile customer since it was Voice Stream and the rep noted that, but still wouldn't budge. She suggested I go third party, but even at that route, I am not eligible for full upgrade until November. I have an old grandfathered family plan and I won't ditch it for the new plans just to get this phone, I'd buy a S3 before that happened. Anyway, has anyone gotten or found any better deals, Costco, Sam's (I didn't have time to stop in while on lunch).
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Thanks foyer this I'm wondering the same thing!! Not even the tmobile stores have handsets yet and I'm not due for upgrade til next April and they would not even let me get the 149 down deal cuz of my plan and weve been with Tmobile for like 15 years
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style154 said:
Thanks foyer this I'm wondering the same thing!! Not even the tmobile stores have handsets yet and I'm not due for upgrade til next April and they would not even let me get the 149 down deal cuz of my plan and weve been with Tmobile for like 15 years
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In your case, since its a yera before you can upgrade, your best option is to buy off contract, waiting may have a drop in price, but how long to wait. At the rate Samsung has been releasing Galaxy series devices, it will be 6 months before we see the Note 3 or S5 lol. Wirefly may have deals, but third party seems to be an alternative. And if the sales rep is nice or want to make a sale, maybe there is some light at the end of the tunnel for you.

May I ask how much you are paying for your data now? Do you have any promotions on data, like loyalty/BtV?
I'm aware that the regular rates for data under the Classic is $20 for 2GB (cheapest one). If you were put on the Bridge to Value, I believe that goes down 50% ($10). If you also got a loyalty discount like me, it is $5; and actually, that is $5 for 5GB of 4G/LTE data for each line - this is the Preferred deal through the loyalty department.
I'm asking because when I tried to upgrade our phones (we haven't upgraded in 4 years), we would lose those promotions ($5 goes back to $20). If you already pay $20 and this won't affect you, then just buy it cheap at Walmart. If you do have those promotions like me, you should have the option online from my.t-mobile.com to do the EIP plan and keep your plans and services unchanged.
Hope that helps.

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In your case, since its a yera before you can upgrade, your best option is to buy off contract, waiting may have a drop in price, but how long to wait. At the rate Samsung has been releasing Galaxy series devices, it will be 6 months before we see the Note 3 or S5 lol. Wirefly may have deals, but third party seems to be an alternative. And if the sales rep is nice or want to make a sale, maybe there is some light at the end of the tunnel for you.
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Yeah gonna try Costco and see if they'll budge on price thanks I've been looking around
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style154 said:
Yeah gonna try Costco and see if they'll budge on price thanks I've been looking around
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Costco is $199.99 for 2 years. Unfortunately they don't have them in stock nor will they know when. My guess is May 15th, when all the 3rd party stores receive stock (keeping fingers crossed). I am actually willing to wait this time, save over $400!

Are you all on the old Classic plan still?

No more deals in phones from tmo anymore - period. Costco supposed to have by the 8th
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GG2012 said:
May I ask how much you are paying for your data now? Do you have any promotions on data, like loyalty/BtV?
I'm aware that the regular rates for data under the Classic is $20 for 2GB (cheapest one). If you were put on the Bridge to Value, I believe that goes down 50% ($10). If you also got a loyalty discount like me, it is $5; and actually, that is $5 for 5GB of 4G/LTE data for each line - this is the Preferred deal through the loyalty department.
I'm asking because when I tried to upgrade our phones (we haven't upgraded in 4 years), we would lose those promotions ($5 goes back to $20). If you already pay $20 and this won't affect you, then just buy it cheap at Walmart. If you do have those promotions like me, you should have the option online from my.t-mobile.com to do the EIP plan and keep your plans and services unchanged.
Hope that helps.
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If you were asking me, my grandfathered plan is awesome, I got my wife with the $20 preferred android data plan which is unlimited data with no cap, mine was added later also at $20, unlimited with a 2gb speed cap. We have my faves still (free lol), unlimited text, 1000 family minutes shared between 5 lines currently, and after the wife and I added data for just us, our minute usage went from nearly 800-900 minutes use to maybe 100 give or take. Most of my connections and deals were always done via loyalty depart, back when all the reps spoke English and were easy to deal with.
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No more deals in phones from tmo anymore - period. Costco supposed to have by the 8th
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T-Mo is strict with this new deal, $149 down, $20 for 24 months.... loyalty WILL NOT discount, it is what it is... :crying:

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If you were asking me, my grandfathered plan is awesome, I got my wife with the $20 preferred android data plan which is unlimited data with no cap, mine was added later also at $20, unlimited with a 2gb speed cap. We have my faves still (free lol), unlimited text, 1000 family minutes shared between 5 lines currently, and after the wife and I added data for just us, our minute usage went from nearly 800-900 minutes use to maybe 100 give or take. Most of my connections and deals were always done via loyalty depart, back when all the reps spoke English and were easy to deal with.
T-Mo is strict with this new deal, $149 down, $20 for 24 months.... loyalty WILL NOT discount, it is what it is... :crying:
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So am I. Contract was originally expiring this month (May 2013). Called them back early March and thinking of quitting early, but offered some great deals (almost fooled me!) and I extended my contract (now ending 2015). There were some hiccups along the way, concerning how I can upgrade my phone and what was offered. After multiple calls the next few days, we ended up with what I think is a good deal.
So I have 4 lines on my account.
Classic 1000 Whenever Minutes - $60 (Shared)
Preferred Unlimited Texting - $15 (Shared)
Preferred Android Web (Unlimited Data up to 5GB of 4G/LTE) - $20 ($5 Each Line)
Add a Line fee - $10 ($5 for 2 additional lines)
Loyalty Discount = -$10
Corporate Discount = -$15
_______________________ TOTAL MONTHLY BILL: $80 + taxes. Not bad huh?
I'm looking at ~$2600 (include taxes) for my T-Mo service for the next two years.
Then I have to factor the cost of the phones. All 4 of my lines were using crappy old dumb phones. We haven't upgraded in over 4 years! So we got a Nexus 4 ($350), S Relay ($250), S3 ($300 total), S4 ($650?) = ~$1600. Now I just have to figure out how to lower the cost of that S4.

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So am I. Contract was originally expiring this month (May 2013). Called them back early March and thinking of quitting early, but offered some great deals (almost fooled me!) and I extended my contract (now ending 2015). There were some hiccups along the way, concerning how I can upgrade my phone and what was offered. After multiple calls the next few days, we ended up with what I think is a good deal.
So I have 4 lines on my account.
Classic 1000 Whenever Minutes - $60 (Shared)
Preferred Unlimited Texting - $15 (Shared)
Preferred Android Web (Unlimited Data up to 5GB of 4G/LTE) - $20 ($5 Each Line)
Add a Line fee - $10 ($5 for 2 additional lines)
Loyalty Discount = -$10
Corporate Discount = -$15
_______________________ TOTAL MONTHLY BILL: $80 + taxes. Not bad huh?
I'm looking at ~$2600 (include taxes) for my T-Mo service for the next two years.
Then I have to factor the cost of the phones. All 4 of my lines were using crappy old dumb phones. We haven't upgraded in over 4 years! So we got a Nexus 4 ($350), S Relay ($250), S3 ($300 total), S4 ($650?) = ~$1600. Now I just have to figure out how to lower the cost of that S4.
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That's a good deal, I think I pay 90 for the wife and I, I just added a line for $10 for my son, and I split the bill with my parents, they just have voice lines with text and myfaves. Buying the phones up front and having a plan that is grandfathered and technically out of contract is where you save in the end. Follow the unofficial tmobile blog, http://www.tmonews.com/ good intel there and updated often.

Nexus 4 and S Relay were bought in Best Buy off-contract. I got them to price match. The S3 was bought through T-Mobile, as a new added line on my account for the discounted Classic price of $149-$50 rebate. It's been over 30 days so I plan on cancelling that line and pay the ETF of $200, which brings the cost for the S3 to $300. I am planning on doing the same with the S4, but the trick here now is patience. To be able to profit, I would need to wait on the price to come down. It is still $299 with 2-year contract. I'm not even considering places like Amazon and Walmart because of other complications. They also charge their own fees if you cancel early - this is because they earn commissions when activating or upgrading a carrier's phone, thus they can give instant discounts. BB does not have this policy (as of today at least).
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gear79 said:
That's a good deal, I think I pay 90 for the wife and I, I just added a line for $10 for my son, and I split the bill with my parents, they just have voice lines with text and myfaves. Buying the phones up front and having a plan that is grandfathered and technically out of contract is where you save in the end. Follow the unofficial tmobile blog, http://www.tmonews.com/ good intel there and updated often.
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Like I said, if buying the phones up front just to save a bit on the monthly bill doesn't save me a lot of money in the long run (over 2 years), then it's not worth it. Plus, it's not like everyone has $6-700 lying around to buy a phone for full price upfront. I had to find the cheapest good phones (Nexus 4 and S Relay). I am also adamant about keeping my current Classic plan and all the loyalty promotions and discounts. However, for my S4, I got them through the EIP. I paid the $200 down payment including taxes, and then $20 for two years. That brings the total cost to $680 for the phone.
I can't afford to pay that whole amount right now. It's too much. I gotta take the hit over 24 months. Now, I do have 14/20 days to see if there are better alternatives. one of which is that S3 approach.

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If you were asking me, my grandfathered plan is awesome, I got my wife with the $20 preferred android data plan which is unlimited data with no cap, mine was added later also at $20, unlimited with a 2gb speed cap. We have my faves still (free lol), unlimited text, 1000 family minutes shared between 5 lines currently, and after the wife and I added data for just us, our minute usage went from nearly 800-900 minutes use to maybe 100 give or take. Most of my connections and deals were always done via loyalty depart, back when all the reps spoke English and were easy to deal with.
T-Mo is strict with this new deal, $149 down, $20 for 24 months.... loyalty WILL NOT discount, it is what it is... :crying:
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I had grandfathered plan at $20 for 5 GB and one option in the order page was to retain your plan as is - which I did. Do not know if they would maintain the $5 - $10 plans if you select that option, but it stated that no change would be made to the extended plan.
If that was the case, you get the best of both - 2 more years at the low rates and the phone for $200.

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IT-Mo is strict with this new deal, $149 down, $20 for 24 months.... loyalty WILL NOT discount, it is what it is... :crying:
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Really ? T-Mo covered my taxes, overnight shipping and gave me a loyalty credit

KillaHurtz said:
Really ? T-Mo covered my taxes, overnight shipping and gave me a loyalty credit
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That don't say anything, what did you pay, final bill?