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root access without touching the bootloader?

basically im wondering how to get free games and will the fpse work without root as my bootloader status is set to no and cannot be unlocked, can i gain root access without touching the bootloader?

nathanmcc said:
basically im wondering how to get free games and will the fpse work without root as my bootloader status is set to no and cannot be unlocked, can i gain root access without touching the bootloader?
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1) We do not Pirate on XDA you Should be banned.
2) We are a Community of people Who Just want to Make Our device better.
Piartes are Scum who are Ilegal and annoying this is what kills developers. You should be ashamed Coming here and saying you want free apps. Root Gives only Privaliges to Certain apps. Unlocking the bootloader Means Voiding your Warranty (ROOT voids as well) and Being able to flash Custom ROM/Kernel.
3) Get off of XDA DEVELOPERS WE DO NOT PIRATE WE RESPECT PEOPLE. IF YOU PIRATE THEN YOU HAVE NO REASSON TO BE HERE AND HAVE A ACCOUNT.

Xperia4life said:
1) We do not Pirate on XDA you Should be banned.
2) We are a Community of people Who Just want to Make Our device better.
Piartes are Scum who are Ilegal and annoying this is what kills developers. You should be ashamed Coming here and saying you want free apps. Root Gives only Privaliges to Certain apps. Unlocking the bootloader Means Voiding your Warranty (ROOT voids as well) and Being able to flash Custom ROM/Kernel.
3) Get off of XDA DEVELOPERS WE DO NOT PIRATE WE RESPECT PEOPLE. IF YOU PIRATE THEN YOU HAVE NO REASSON TO BE HERE AND HAVE A ACCOUNT.
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Agreed
Sent from my big buff bad ass Xperia play

nathanmcc said:
basically im wondering how to get free games
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Google Play has lots of them, take a look
and will the fpse work without root as my bootloader status is set to no and cannot be unlocked
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Yes, check it out on Google Play
can i gain root access without touching the bootloader?
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Depends on your firmware. Search and find out.
To everybody else who responded, there is nothing magical about root that lets you pirate.
Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.

totally right there, what i meant by free games was free 3d games that optimise the ps controls on the phone, also ones that didnt need an sd card as i dont get that untill tomorrow.
my firmware is 2.3.4, would i have to pay someone to do it?

nathanmcc said:
totally right there, what i meant by free games was free 3d games that optimise the ps controls on the phone, also ones that didnt need an sd card as i dont get that untill tomorrow.
my firmware is 2.3.4, would i have to pay someone to do it?
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What we need is your Sony specific firmware number, if that is above .62, then yes the only way to root it's too pay someone to unlock your bootloader (iirc, the R800i (one you have?) is a little different than the R800x (one I have))
Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.

paxChristos said:
What we need is your Sony specific firmware number, if that is above .62, then yes the only way to root it's too pay someone to unlock your bootloader (iirc, the R800i (one you have?) is a little different than the R800x (one I have))
my build number is 4.0.2A.0.42, not too sure if that is it
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nathanmcc said:
paxChristos said:
What we need is your Sony specific firmware number, if that is above .62, then yes the only way to root it's too pay someone to unlock your bootloader (iirc, the R800i (one you have?) is a little different than the R800x (one I have))
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my build number is 4.0.2A.0.42, not too sure if that is it
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(same response as the pm I sent you, just putting it out there for anybody else who needs it)
Yes, that's the build number.
You're good, root via the zergRush link in my signature or SuperOneClick (www.shortfuse.org) Both of these roots need a computer (the exploit is located in adb)

Use ZergRush method by DoomLord, an easy toolkit to root your phone without unlocking bootloader if you're on Firmware .42. For .62 you'll have to unlock your bootloader to gain root.

Bit harsh Xperia4life. Plus you dont need root acsess to install an .apk. Anyway, can't you use the CWM installer from the Google Play store, then install the superuser zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ ?

XperiaPlayer said:
Bit harsh Xperia4life. Plus you dont need root acsess to install an .apk. Anyway, can't you use the CWM installer from the Google Play store, then install the superuser zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ ?
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You need root to install cwm
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paxChristos said:
Google Play has lots of them, take a look
Yes, check it out on Google Play
Depends on your firmware. Search and find out.
To everybody else who responded, there is nothing magical about root that lets you pirate.
Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.
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Actually, there IS a magical root-only app that let's you pirate apps.
Yes, it exists. No, I won't tell you what it's called. I don't promote Warez.

captain67 said:
Actually, there IS a magical root-only app that let's you pirate apps.
Yes, it exists. No, I won't tell you what it's called. I don't promote Warez.
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Touche
That why I stress Google Play Market

captain67 said:
Actually, there IS a magical root-only app that let's you pirate apps.
Yes, it exists. No, I won't tell you what it's called. I don't promote Warez.
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While that is true, you can pirate apps even before you are rooted. Just gotta know where to look. So, yes, pax is correct.

How to flash a stock firmware in my M8?

Hi guys! I've been trying for a while to find a post where I can find exactly what I want but I can't, so I don't know if it's possible. The thing is, I've an M8 with "Vodafone" in Spain (Android 4.4.4). Yesterday I unlocked it by code and know I want to flash an original stock firmware (GOD, it was a way easier with my old Xperia Z2) so that I can get Lollipop and erase all Vodafone's rubbish forever. However, I don't know if this is possible. I've seen that my cid must be HTC_00*** but I hace "VODAP304". Then I've seen I need firewater but it's no longer working (to s-off the device). So, I'm a bit lost and I don't even know if I can flash a stock firmware over a Vodafone firmware. Any ideas?

You can use sunshine to S-OFF
http://theroot.ninja/

Thanks for replying!! I heard that one could have some bugs, but if you recommend it I will use it. And then, can I flash any firmware?? No matter what?

Yep, pretty much. Before you pay for Sunshine it goes through some checks to make sure it's compatible so give it a go

I need to pay ???

Yep, $25

Woah, I think I'll leave it like that. I think that what I want to do is not worth 25 dollars

Cloudsev said:
Woah, I think I'll leave it like that. I think that what I want to do is not worth 25 dollars
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It really is
Without S-OFF, you can't remove all the carrier rubbish and get OTA updates directly from HTC

I knowwww X), that's why I wanted, but I just spent 15 dollars to unlock it. 25 more dollars is just too much XD. Is there any other option?

Cloudsev said:
I knowwww X), that's why I wanted, but I just spent 15 dollars to unlock it. 25 more dollars is just too much XD. Is there any other option?
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15 dollars to unlock what exactly ?

Mr Hofs said:
15 dollars to unlock what exactly ?
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In guessing SIM unlock

EddyOS said:
In guessing SIM unlock
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Hope so, at least he got something in return then. I have seen people pay that much just get their bootloader unlocked
Than it would have been a good option to s-off for 25 and do the SIM unlock yourself and get the freedom of s-off with it

If I had known I could do that in advance, I would have never paid for unlocking it. Oh God, I feel stupid now xD
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Hope so, at least he got something in return then. I have seen people pay that much just get their bootloader unlocked
Than it would have been a good option to s-off for 25 and do the SIM unlock yourself and get the freedom of s-off with it
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Cloudsev said:
If I had known I could do that in advance, I would have never paid for unlocking it. Oh God, I feel stupid now xD
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you mean you got your bootloader unlocked ??? It's free via the HTC dev site !

No, no. I mean SIM unlock

Cloudsev said:
No, no. I mean SIM unlock
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ah well at least you got something in return for it

Mr Hofs said:
ah well at least you got something in return for it
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Yeah. To be honest I'm not an expert, but I usually do this kind of things by myself. However, for the last let's say 2-3 years I've seen that's almost impossible unlocking a phone without paying. I made a little research and found it was more or less the same with the HTC One M8 (and I also found that there was another program to made it s-off but it wasn't working anymore), but clearly I didn't look everything

Well, I've finally decided to use Sunshine. However, when it tries to make a test to see if my phone is suitable for Sunshine this message appears: "Sunshine could not find the su binary, please root your device, then run Sunshine". Is it necessary to root the device in advance? I thought Sunshine itself did it

Cloudsev said:
Well, I've finally decided to use Sunshine. However, when it tries to make a test to see if my phone is suitable for Sunshine this message appears: "Sunshine could not find the su binary, please root your device, then run Sunshine". Is it necessary to root the device in advance? I thought Sunshine itself did it
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What do you think the message means, if it can't find the su binaries you need to root it in advance. If sunshine would root it for you it would have said so. Pretty clear to me

Hahaha lol I know, but I thought there could be some kind of option in advance or something X). Well, I'm going to investigate how to root the device then =)

Firmware whilst S-On.

Morning all,
Im not S-off and I'm using a pretty dated firmware..
I was told that there is a way to obtain and flash a firmware WITHOUT wiping anything and without too much fuss.
My questions:
What is the COMMAND in CMD?
Where do you find the signed firmware?
How do you identify which one to use?
What does it actually change? As the phone does work on dated firmware, more optimised?
I highly doubt I'm the only one who would benefit from this, once I know the answers I'll leave them here and I'll write a guide on how to install them step by step I'll also link the firmwares do others can help themselves.
Thanks
Currently running: Viper 3.5.0
Firmware: 1.80.401.1
S-ON
Unecrypted.

Check out Krassermensch's Firmware Update Tool in the guide part of the forum.

Lindsten said:
Check out Krassermensch's Firmware Update Tool in the guide part of the forum.
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Have come mate, but I've asked some other things plus there is apparently a way to do it without the use of a tool.

This is the specific thread for firmware update.
I think you can only flash the full stock zip since you are s-on. Do take note that flashing the stock firmware.zip will wipe your internal storage.
The firmware to flash should have matching CID and MID of your device.
To check your mid and cid type this command in cmd while the device is in download mode.
fastboot getvar all

side_flip15 said:
This is the specific thread for firmware update.
I think you can only flash the full stock zip since you are s-on. Do take note that flashing the stock firmware.zip will wipe your internal storage.
The firmware to flash should have matching CID and MID of your device.
To check your mid and cid type this command in cmd while the device is in download mode.
fastboot getvar all
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Incorrect. All of @Sneakyghost's firmware.zips are for S-Off users only. It's stated in the OP of the thread right in the first sentence.

xunholyx said:
Incorrect. All of @Sneakyghost's firmware.zips are for S-Off users only. It's stated in the OP of the thread right in the first sentence.
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Cheers,

Does anyone know the answers to any of the questions I've written?

sorry

side_flip15 said:
sorry
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No reason to be sorry. You were trying to help, and I was just letting you know that it won't work for him.
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dladz said:
Does anyone know the answers to any of the questions I've written?
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First make a backup. This will wipe your phone.
Then relock your bootloader. In fastboot fastboot oem lock
Download this RUU.zip
Rename the .zip to 2PS6IMG and place it onto your extSD
Boot to download mode and follow the prompts (vol up to flash ~ power button to reboot)
That's it. Super easy.
Delete the renamed .zip from your extSD or else every time you boot to download mode it'll try to update again.
Now unlock your bootloader again with the same bin code that HTC gave you when you first did it, or request a new one. Flash TWRP back onto your phone, then flash SuperSU or a custom ROM to regain root.
This is why I paid $25 for Sunshine.
For S-Off users, you just flash a small firmware package, and that's it. No data loss. No relocking the bootloader. No reflashing recovery. No re-rooting.
It really is worth the price in the amount of time and hassle saved through the lifetime of the phone.

xunholyx said:
No reason to be sorry. You were trying to help, and I was just letting you know that it won't work for him.
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First make a backup. This will wipe your phone.
Then relock your bootloader. In fastboot fastboot oem lock
Download this RUU.zip
Rename the .zip to 2PS6IMG and place it onto your extSD
Boot to download mode and follow the prompts (vol up to flash ~ power button to reboot)
That's it. Super easy.
Delete the renamed .zip from your extSD or else every time you boot to download mode it'll try to update again.
Now unlock your bootloader again with the same bin code that HTC gave you when you first did it, or request a new one. Flash TWRP back onto your phone, then flash SuperSU or a custom ROM to regain root.
This is why I paid $25 for Sunshine.
For S-Off users, you just flash a small firmware package, and that's it. No data loss. No relocking the bootloader. No reflashing recovery. No re-rooting.
It really is worth the price in the amount of time and hassle saved through the lifetime of the phone.
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OK so this is where I've heard different.. There apparently isn't any need to return to stock so think you may need to read the originating post yourself mate
Otherwise how would the tool mentioned in the second post work? Appreciate you saying all that but it doesn't help my query.
As for sunshine I completely disagree, I've had every single htc bar two since the G1 and I've had S-off on all of them where available so I know the S-off method well, and have made a lot of donations to developers over the years, I also buy all my apps and support Devs when they deserve it for apps.
In regards to sunshine, I paid for this app for my m9 less than a year ago, I get one license, I can't use this for my 10 and I'll have another phone soon so see little point, they should offer more than one unlock for £25 and the only reason why they've got away with this daylight robbery is because they've monopolised the market, I'm sure I'm not the the only person who's noticed this.
Anyway, I'll wait to hear from someone who knows about the signed firmwares and how to install them. The tool can do it, so there must be a manual way, Id prefer to do that as I've had problems with tools in the past and with firmware you really want to get it right.

dladz said:
OK so this is where I've heard different.. There apparently isn't any need to return to stock so think you may need to read the originating post yourself mate
Otherwise how would the tool mentioned in the second post work? Appreciate you saying all that but it doesn't help my query.
As for sunshine I completely disagree, I've had every single htc bar two since the G1 and I've had S-off on all of them where available so I know the S-off method well, and have made a lot of donations to developers over the years, I also buy all my apps and support Devs when they deserve it for apps.
In regards to sunshine, I paid for this app for my m9 less than a year ago, I get one license, I can't use this for my 10 and I'll have another phone soon so see little point, they should offer more than one unlock for £25 and the only reason why they've got away with this daylight robbery is because they've monopolised the market, I'm sure I'm not the the only person who's noticed this.
Anyway, I'll wait to hear from someone who knows about the signed firmwares and how to install them. The tool can do it, so there must be a manual way, Id prefer to do that as I've had problems with tools in the past and with firmware you really want to get it right.
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I think you misunderstood me. I'm sure there is a thread somewhere here with signed firmware (there is for M8), but I don't know of it. If I did, I would have linked you there.
But you asked if anyone could give you help, so I offered you a way to do it.
Even if you find a signed firmware.zip, you'll still need to re-lock your bootloader since you are S-On.
You might as well save some time searching and just run the RUU

xunholyx said:
I think you misunderstood me. I'm sure there is a thread somewhere here with signed firmware (there is for M8), but I don't know of it. If I did, I would have linked you there.
But you asked if anyone could give you help, so I offered you a way to do it.
Even if you find a signed firmware.zip, you'll still need to re-lock your bootloader since you are S-On.
You might as well save some time searching and just run the RUU
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I'll check around, was speaking with @LeeDroid a while ago, can't remember him saying relock the bootloader, I'll ask him.
I'm pretty sure there is a way. Can't see that tool in the second post relocking your bootloader.

dladz said:
I'll check around, was speaking with @LeeDroid a while ago, can't remember him saying relock the bootloader, I'll ask him.
I'm pretty sure there is a way. Can't see that tool in the second post relocating your bootloader.
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Actually, I have been following the method of @krassermensch's since before he started a thread about it. He posted to a different firmware thread about the method, and I've been curious about it since. In his OP he states that you need an unlocked bootloader, so his method is probably your best solution. I haven't tried it myself as I have always been S-Off on my HTC phones.

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Have come mate, but I've asked some other things plus there is apparently a way to do it without the use of a tool.
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My tool is on GitHub, read the content of the batch files and you know how to do it
https://github.com/nico151999/Firmware-Update-Tool-HTC10

krassermensch said:
My tool is on GitHub, read the content of the batch files and you know how to do it
https://github.com/nico151999/Firmware-Update-Tool-HTC10
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Thanks :good:

xunholyx said:
Actually, I have been following the method of @krassermensch's since before he started a thread about it. He posted to a different firmware thread about the method, and I've been curious about it since. In his OP he states that you need an unlocked bootloader, so his method is probably your best solution. I haven't tried it myself as I have always been S-Off on my HTC phones.
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yea same here man, looking at the tools code it seems that it asks you to back up first.
I'll check it out in the morning.
Thanks chaps

dladz said:
yea same here man, looking at the tools code it seems that it asks you to back up first.
I'll check it out in the morning.
Thanks chaps
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The backup is necessary as the firmware update files overwrite the recovery and the boot partitions...

Does Unlocked Bootloader Stop Google Pay/Banking Apps

I had someone suggest I leave my bootloader unlocked. I usually relock it. Does leaving it unlocked stop Google Pay and banking apps from working. Or Games like Pokemon Go?

That was me, but other more knowledgeable folks should feel free to chime in as we all could learn something here.
As I said in the other thread, I don't know. What I do know is that Google's safetynet is more likely to prevent you from using banking apps, Pokémon Go, or Google Pay than the bootloader. Case in point, I have my bootloader completely unlocked yet I still pass safetynet. Now, if an app actively checks for an unlocked bootloader then you may have an issue, but I'm not aware of apps that check for bootloader unlock status.

acheney1990 said:
I had someone suggest I leave my bootloader unlocked. I usually relock it. Does leaving it unlocked stop Google Pay and banking apps from working. Or Games like Pokemon Go?
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It will certainly stop Google Pay from working, as the phone will report it is insecure.
Banking apps may or may not depending on what they check for.

acheney1990 said:
I had someone suggest I leave my bootloader unlocked. I usually relock it. Does leaving it unlocked stop Google Pay and banking apps from working. Or Games like Pokemon Go?
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Unlocked breaks Pay. I don't recall any other apps that care.
Leave it unlocked. The forums here are littered with posts that say.... help, I relocked and now it is bricked......and those phones are still bricked.
Don't do it, it's Russian Roulette.
Flash a custom kernel that hides the unlock. Most all of them do, or root it with Magisk and that will hide it.

uicnren said:
It will certainly stop Google Pay from working, as the phone will report it is insecure.
Banking apps may or may not depending on what they check for.
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This is incorrect.
I have an unlocked bootloader (and am rooted) and use Google Pay without issue.

mitchdickson said:
This is incorrect.
I have an unlocked bootloader (and am rooted) and use Google Pay without issue.
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its not incorrect, an unlocked bootloader on stock Android will cause Google Pay to not work.
Your root hides the unlocked bootloader (which is why it passes safetynet)

uicnren said:
its not incorrect, an unlocked bootloader on stock Android will cause Google Pay to not work.
Your root hides the unlocked bootloader (which is why it passes safetynet)
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So you probably shouldn't be saying an unlocked bootloader will definitely stop Google pay from working.

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So you probably shouldn't be saying an unlocked bootloader will definitely stop Google pay from working.
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Except is does, nowhere did the OP mention root, I answered his question 100% correct.

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Except is does, nowhere did the OP mention root, I answered his question 100% correct.
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You made a blanket statement that an unlocked bootloader definitely stops Google Pay from working. We both know this isn't true.
You aren't just answering the question for OP, but also for any other user who might search for a topic like this.
You should probably edit your post to say that it will definitely stop Google Pay from working if you do not take further steps to protect safety net integrity.

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Yes u made a blank t statement that an unlocked bootloader definitely stops Google Pay from working. We both know this isn't true.
You aren't just answering the question for OP, but also for any other user who might search for a topic like this.
You should probably edit your post to say that it will definitely stop Google Pay from working if you do not take further steps to protect safety net integrity.
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I shouldnt edit anything because its 100% accurate as answered, and as asked.

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I shouldnt edit anything because its 100% accurate as answered, and as asked.
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Except that it's not.

mitchdickson said:
Except that it's not.
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It is.

uicnren said:
It is.
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It's an answer that fails to take any nuance into account, and instead chooses to declare that any unlocked bootloader will cause Google Pay to not work.

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It's an answer that fails to take any nuance into account, and instead chooses to declare that any unlocked bootloader will cause Google Pay to not work.
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I dont go by 'nuance' only by what the OP asked in his question, and in that regard, the answer is 100% correct.
I dont assume anything, had they asked the question differently, then maybe they would get a different answer.
Now people will go unlock their bootloader, without root and wonder why the hell Google pay isn't working, because someone said it would.

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I dont go by 'nuance' only by what the OP asked in his question, and in that regard, the answer is 100% correct.
I dont assume anything, had they asked the question differently, then maybe they would get a different answer.
Now people will go unlock their bootloader, without root and wonder why the hell Google pay isn't working, because someone said it would.
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Here's the thing: you can have an unlocked bootloader, without root, and still pass Safety Net by flashing a kernel which incorporates this patch: https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...bc05b16bbd33521c2fffaf491c5657a94bfcfc5.patch
You are continuing to ignore that you are not only answering a question for OP, but for anyone who may come across this thread.

mitchdickson said:
Here's the thing: you can have an unlocked bootloader, without root, and still pass Safety Net by flashing a kernel which incorporates this patch: https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...bc05b16bbd33521c2fffaf491c5657a94bfcfc5.patch
You are continuing to ignore that you are not only answering a question for OP, but for anyone who may come across this thread.
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Nope, I only answered for the OP, with the information provided. Im not answering to anyone else.
If they are already going through all the other stuff, they wouldnt be asking the question, since you're stuck on 'nuance' and assumptions.

uicnren said:
Nope, I only answered for the OP, with the information provided. Im not answering to anyone else.
If they are already going through all the other stuff, they wouldnt be asking the question, since you're stuck on 'nuance' and assumptions.
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You're assuming the OP wouldn't root and would not flash a kernel.
My whole point is that you shouldn't make that assumption.

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You're assuming the OP wouldn't root and would not flash a kernel.
My whole point is that you shouldn't make that assumption.
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I didnt assume anything.
The answer was based on the information provided (or lack thereof).

uicnren said:
I didnt assume anything.
The answer was based on the information provided (or lack thereof).
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Did I miss where the OP said he wouldn't root and wouldn't flash a kernel?

mitchdickson said:
Did I miss where the OP said he wouldn't root and wouldn't flash a kernel?
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No, you missed where he said he would.

Alternate service to send in HTC 10 since Sunshine is down.

Is there another service to send in my HTC 10 since the service by Sunshine doesn't exist?
I am unable to unlock the bootloader, the Sunshine app gives me a failure. I have no OEM bootloader option in the developer tools. I've made several attempts using the various forums so I can root the phone without success. I feel it's time to send it out to someone who can assist me.

supercally said:
Is there another service to send in my HTC 10 since the service by Sunshine doesn't exist?
I am unable to unlock the bootloader, the Sunshine app gives me a failure. I have no OEM bootloader option in the developer tools. I've made several attempts using the various forums so I can root the phone without success. I feel it's time to send it out to someone who can assist me.
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https://www.fonefunshop.com/htc-s-off-service-mail-in-service-.html
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

The fonefunshop link states that service is only available to UK residents and I am in the US

supercally said:
The fonefunshop link states that service is only available to UK residents and I am in the US
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I only see that under the Unlock service page.
I do not see that stated anywhere on the s-off mail in service page, which is what I linked above.
It clearly states:
"Worldwide Delivery available on this item."
Further down that same page.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Is there another source?
Here is their response regarding nonresidents:
Sorry we only offer this service within Europe because in the past we have had bad experiences with peoples going missing in transit as well as large import duty tax bills here in the uk and your side too because the governments deem them taxable even though they are coming in for repair

supercally said:
Is there another source?
Here is their response regarding nonresidents:
Sorry we only offer this service within Europe because in the past we have had bad experiences with peoples going missing in transit as well as large import duty tax bills here in the uk and your side too because the governments deem them taxable even though they are coming in for repair
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I only know of a couple other shops that do it, but they are both also in the UK.
Other option, would be an XTC2 Clip/Power Adapter/Java Card, if they even still work after the HTC 10 has been updated to Oreo(not sure on that part).
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I have orderd the XTC2 Clip/Power Adapter/Java Card and cables. Is the procedure available to unlock and root the phone available using this method?

supercally said:
I have orderd the XTC2 Clip/Power Adapter/Java Card and cables. Is the procedure available to unlock and root the phone available using this method?
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From where did you get those?

xexux said:
From where did you get those?
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I'm guessing,
http://xtc2clip.org/

Ebay. Do you have the procedure?

I've found this https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/unlock-your-htc-10s-bootloader-0178418/ after I read this thread, did you try that?
I'm a noob in a similar situation, have a completely stock non-branded Nougat and want to root and maybe install Viper or Lineage, but been putting it off cause I had to find a way to back up all the apps. Now I have to figure out a way to root/s-off quick, before my warranty runs out next month :S
edit: http://theroot.ninja/about.html seems to be up??

Zekoslawen said:
I've found this https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/unlock-your-htc-10s-bootloader-0178418/ after I read this thread, did you try that?
I'm a noob in a similar situation, have a completely stock non-branded Nougat and want to root and maybe install Viper or Lineage, but been putting it off cause I had to find a way to back up all the apps. Now I have to figure out a way to root/s-off quick, before my warranty runs out next month :S
edit: http://theroot.ninja/about.html seems to be up??
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If your htc 10 is still on Nougat and ISN'T a Verizon device, then I think you can use Sunshine to S-OFF, don't hold me too it, but I believe you can. :good:
just download the app and try it out, it won't take your $$ of anything if it doesn't work, can't hurt to try.
I believe it is not working for Oreo and Pie htc 10 variants, and Verizon is needed to do by mail I think unless they fixed it for Verizon N as well.
Don't remember. but the website still says they do mail in, but I don't think they still are.
Give it a try and report back.

andybones said:
If your htc 10 is still on Nougat and ISN'T a Verizon device, then I think you can use Sunshine to S-OFF, don't hold me too it, but I believe you can. :good:
just download the app and try it out, it won't take your $$ of anything if it doesn't work, can't hurt to try.
I believe it is not working for Oreo and Pie htc 10 variants, and Verizon is needed to do by mail I think unless they fixed it for Verizon N as well.
Don't remember. but the website still says they do mail in, but I don't think they still are.
Give it a try and report back.
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Got this message:
Failure!
SunShine was unable to gain root access to your device. You may need to gain "TempRoot" or "PermRoot" through some other means. For HTC Devices, unlocking with HTCDev.com and rooting with a custom recovery may work.

Zekoslawen said:
Got this message:
Failure!
SunShine was unable to gain root access to your device. You may need to gain "TempRoot" or "PermRoot" through some other means. For HTC Devices, unlocking with HTCDev.com and rooting with a custom recovery may work.
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You can 100% unlock the bootloader @ htcdev and flash custom ROMs, you don't need soff for that.
I wouldn't update from N firmware until you try a few things out.
Maybe unlocking bl and rooting then sunshine will work?

andybones said:
You can 100% unlock the bootloader @ htcdev and flash custom ROMs, you don't need soff for that.
I wouldn't update from N firmware until you try a few things out.
Maybe unlocking bl and rooting then sunshine will work?
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Ah, that's good, didn't know that.
I'm gonna wait a few more days for an answer from the devs of the last app on my phone that can't back up via adb and its own backup process is broken. After that I'm gonna do what you said.
Is the guide I linked above ok or is there maybe an XDA guide to doing that? I looked at the Guides subforum here but there's too much stuff and I've never rooted a phone b4 so I'm not sure which thread I'm supposed to be looking at :silly:

Zekoslawen said:
Ah, that's good, didn't know that.
I'm gonna wait a few more days for an answer from the devs of the last app on my phone that can't back up via adb and its own backup process is broken. After that I'm gonna do what you said.
Is the guide I linked above ok or is there maybe an XDA guide to doing that? I looked at the Guides subforum here but there's too much stuff and I've never rooted a phone b4 so I'm not sure which thread I'm supposed to be looking at :silly:
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Yea since you have the US locked version, or I think that's what you meant by unbranded. What's your firmware (in download mode) x.xx.617.xx or x.xx.401.xx
Here is the link for bootloader unlock: https://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/

andybones said:
Yea since you have the US locked version, or I think that's what you meant by unbranded. What's your firmware (in download mode) x.xx.617.xx or x.xx.401.xx
Here is the link for bootloader unlock: https://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
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No, I've got the EU version (or I suppose I do, I bought it in the EU). I meant that I got it from a retailer, not a cell network company like Verizon, since I see those need some special treatment. Software number is 2.41.401.41

Zekoslawen said:
No, I've got the EU version (or I suppose I do, I bought it in the EU). I meant that I got it from a retailer, not a cell network company like Verizon, since I see those need some special treatment. Software number is 2.41.401.41
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Yea, like I thought .617 or .401
Hopefully u get it going.