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[Q] How many Model in U.S.?

I just wonder how many model for United States, it effects me
From what I understand, if there is only one model for U.S. then I would buy the Tmobile version, unlock and use it on Verizon. Im positive it will work cause I did the same for Nexus 6 and iPhone 6. Buying a Tmobile version cause I thought it comes with unlocked bootloader or at least, it's easier than Verizon

Root / Bootloader Unlock Possible on International Version?

Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a Pixel and I'm wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader and root an international model. I want to be able to do these things so just looking to verify that they're possible before I buy an international model. Anyone done it? Haven't had any luck when searching. Thanks for any help.

bchaney16 said:
Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a Pixel and I'm wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader and root an international model. I want to be able to do these things so just looking to verify that they're possible before I buy an international model. Anyone done it? Haven't had any luck when searching. Thanks for any help.
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Google store is BL unlockable, Verizon is not since they're annoying like that

Thanks, I'm definitely staying away from the Verizon ones for that reason but what I'm asking about is the international model. It's a different model number and has different bands but I'm wondering if it's still BL unlockable like the Google Play version.

Yes, I'm running the international model unlocked and rooted.

Tbh I think the international and Google edition are the same. Been searching for a while, can't find anything to indicate they aren't.
It seems in the USA, to differentiate between carrier locked and unlocked phones sold directly by Google, as well as marketing and branding purposes, Google simply calls the unlocked edition in the USA Google edition instead. The international edition already ships unlocked.
They're the same otherwise for all intents and purposes.

What is The Difference Between Chinese & Global Variant

Xiaomi dramatically release a lot of variant in Running Redmi note lineup.
Note 5 pro as indian variant,another one is
Note 5 as chinese also known as Note 5 Ai
and the other one is Redmi note 5 Global.
There is a lot of noticeable difference
between Chinese and global version.
But Its really hard to notice difference
between Chinese & global version.
So My Question is,
I can consider chinese rom,
Which one would be better for me?
I mean Any Disadvantages on
Redmi note 5 global compared to
The note 5 chinese?

Global version and Chinese version differ only in network bands. If you add two LTE bands B4 and B20 to chinese version, it will become global version. That's it. If you don't need those two bands you can order the Chinese version.

Ghoul159 said:
Global version and Chinese version differ only in network bands. If you add two LTE bands B4 and B20 to chinese version, it will become global version. That's it. If you don't need those two bands you can order the Chinese version.
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Thanks for this clear and concise answer. I don't need band 20 or band 4 LTE and Ordered the Global version.
Just cancelled it to reorder the Chinese version from Aliexpress - -$25 difference and it comes with an unlocked bootloader...
Custom Roms here I come...

Bolumstar said:
Thanks for this clear and concise answer. I don't need band 20 or band 4 LTE and Ordered the Global version.
Just cancelled it to reorder the Chinese version from Aliexpress - -$25 difference and it comes with an unlocked bootloader...
Custom Roms here I come...
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Be aware, there are fake unlocked bootloader devices being sold through 3rd party re-sellers! Do a bit of research here on Guides and News section I think on RN5 forums and you'll see. The safest case would be to buy completely stock device (locked bootloader) and proceed to unlock it on your own. Now, your device might really be unlocked, but it is a known practice for Xiaomi devices to get sold with fake UBL. I hope you don't get scammed, because it's a pain in the *ss to get rid of that fake ubl.

Cirra92 said:
Be aware, there are fake unlocked bootloader devices being sold through 3rd party re-sellers! Do a bit of research here on Guides and News section I think on RN5 forums and you'll see. The safest case would be to buy completely stock device (locked bootloader) and proceed to unlock it on your own. Now, your device might really be unlocked, but it is a known practice for Xiaomi devices to get sold with fake UBL. I hope you don't get scammed, because it's a pain in the *ss to get rid of that fake ubl.
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Thanks for the timely info, I have to agree with the seller that it is only properly locked bootloader or nothing

Bolumstar said:
Thanks for the timely info, I have to agree with the seller that it is only properly locked bootloader or nothing
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I would recommend you to buy the global version even if it costs 25 bucks extra. Things changed between then and now. So many restrictions imposed on xiaomi phones. You can't lock bootloader on chinese version if you have global rom and vice-versa. Just make sure you buy from recommended sellers (check their rating) and ask them to keep the box in sealed state o/w you may get fake roms or faked unlocked bootloader....etc.

Ghoul159 said:
I would recommend you to buy the global version even if it costs 25 bucks extra. Things changed between then and now. So many restrictions imposed on xiaomi phones. You can't lock the bootloader on chinese version if you have global rom and vice-versa. Just make sure you buy from recommended sellers (check their rating) and ask them to keep the box in sealed state o/w you may get fake roms or faked unlocked bootloader....etc.
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If I have genuine Global Rom with Unlocked Boot Loader on China version, will flashing newer Global ROM be possible with an unlocked bootloader?
If it is possible, will the Newer global ROM with ARL still lock the bootloader?
I am not a MIUI fan, It is custom Rom all the way so, I want to know. I intend getting the POCO phone early Next year and may not use this one so long

Ghoul159 said:
I would recommend you to buy the global version even if it costs 25 bucks extra. Things changed between then and now. So many restrictions imposed on xiaomi phones. You can't lock bootloader on chinese version if you have global rom and vice-versa. Just make sure you buy from recommended sellers (check their rating) and ask them to keep the box in sealed state o/w you may get fake roms or faked unlocked bootloader....etc.
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Thanks for your Advise mate. I just ordered for redmi Note 5 Ai Global version. It did cost extra $21 but Having considered all
the risks I took your advice. Thanks man.
I will surely have some fun with this phone after which I will try out POCO F1

Sound choice...

Unlocked US or wait for International unlocked?

Hi all
In the past I’ve had to buy international variants for the best possible coverage when traveling. Even the US unlocked did not cover as much as their international unlocked counterparts.
I spend a lot of my time overseas so I’m willing to have less then ideal coverage in the united states.
I’ve tried to look up information on the bands but so far have not had much look comparing to see if I should preorder the s20 ultra unlocked in the states or just wait until I go abroad and purchase the international version in a few months when I leave again. Even if I don’t get the deals on preorder.
Which would really be a downer if there isn’t a difference and I could buy it now with all the perks of the promos.
Can anyone enlighten me on if the unlocked US version or international unlocked variant would be more suited to travel outside the States?
Or is their a difference this time?
Thanks!

I have this same question, but here is my dilemma....
The US version work have a snapdragon and a $200 credit at samsung's website for pre-orders but the international version with have the ability to be rooted. Now i have the oneplus 7 pro, with root, i am able to force 90hz refresh rate on ALL apps. If i can root the s20 ultra, i can swap in a kernel that allows 120hz at qhd on alll apps, which is pure gold in itself.

the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds

I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?

XtremeMaC said:
I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?
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It is my understanding that traditionally, US unlocked version is SiM unlocked but bootloader locked. Therefore, the likelyhood that it will be rootable in a few months will be the same as with other recent phones, next to zero.
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yeah, that's what I'm afraid of..

In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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Viper4android!

very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot

johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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You couldn't be more wrong. But hey. Your choice.

Ricardo_G said:
very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot
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5G is all over Europe.

force70 said:
the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds
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suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do

From what I have seen there are also various versions of the international unlocked, some are dual sim and some ha e different bands (with or without 5G).

masri1987 said:
suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do
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long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.

force70 said:
long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.
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which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus

masri1987 said:
which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus
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the Hong kong and brazil model number is just SM-G9880. no N,W Or anything else. but they both would be 865s yep.
couldnt have been the 3XL cause i didnt get one, def been awhile though. Im not on as much as I used to be...too many snowflakes lol.
Corona virus has everything shut down here in Ontario, Canada. movies, restaurants, gyms (that one hits hard with me being a bodybuilder).
its crazy.

what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android

yes it should be its exynos.
Korean/ international basically the same thing hardware other than possibly being capable of different network frequencies.
you cannot cross flash Korean and international firmware however if that matters
ive had lots of both and never had issues with either.
Player04 said:
what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android
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This may help you decide.
https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/3...-americas-first-unlocked-all-carrier-5g-phone

Im on att. What i wont be able to use the 5g network if i get an international verion. I might get the us verison then

Does Unlocked model have unlocked bootloader and will it work on Verizon?

I'm new to buying phones out right. I'm coming from Pixel 3XL, I'm tired of the constant app issues from only having 3GB RAM and am tired of Google's proprietary accessories.
I'm looking at getting an S20+. I use Verizon and would like to be able to root and/or install custom ROMs. Will buying an unlocked one from Samsung allow all me to do all that? Also I see a SnapDragon and Exynos variants, how can I tell which one I will get?

Novakingwai said:
I'm new to buying phones out right. I'm coming from Pixel 3XL, I'm tired of the constant app issues from only having 3GB RAM and am tired of Google's proprietary accessories.
I'm looking at getting an S20+. I use Verizon and would like to be able to root and/or install custom ROMs. Will buying an unlocked one from Samsung allow all me to do all that? Also I see a SnapDragon and Exynos variants, how can I tell which one I will get?
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Not if it's a US variant, the only devices with unlocked bootloaders are International variants. Exynos devices have known issues for overheating and battery drain. Some users are reporting better performance after the latest OTA Update. There are typically more Custom ROM's developed for Exynos than the Snapdragon variants. If you purchase any variant besides the Verizon Branded device don't expect to retain all the call features Verizon offers. So it comes down to your priorities, custom ROM's or full call functionality. If you chose an unlocked bootloader variant the SM-G9860 from Hong Kong may be your best option.

varcor said:
Not if it's a US variant, the only devices with unlocked bootloaders are International variants. Exynos devices have known issues for overheating and battery drain. Some users are reporting better performance after the latest OTA Update. There are typically more Custom ROM's developed for Exynos than the Snapdragon variants. If you purchase any variant besides the Verizon Branded device don't expect to retain all the call features Verizon offers. So it comes down to your priorities, custom ROM's or full call functionality. If you chose an unlocked bootloader variant the SM-G9860 from Hong Kong may be your best option.
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Ok thanks. I just got a Verizon compatible one from Best Buy. I've mostly been getting Nexus and Pixel phones and haven't been familiar with the other brands. Last one I had was a Note 3 and they were a lot easier to root and set up ROMs on. Now everything's locked. The one killer feature I really want is admin level based ad blocking. I do use Blokada.