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[Q]LG Quantum or Samsung Focus

Which one is better?

ShadowLegion said:
Which one is better?
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All I can tell you is that the screen display on the Focus is just beautiful. And everything moves very quickly and smoothly.

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The way i see it, bigger screen or flip out keyboard. They both have the same os.

I would personally go for the Focus.

Last year (as best as I can recall) I bought that LG WinMo phone that was supposed to come with a snap-on projector. The build quality was awful, the projector never made it to market, at least not to AT&T, it was grossly overpriced, battery life was laughably bad, it was slow and LG's "enhancements" to the stock WinMo 6.5 UI made a bad situation much worse. I stopped seeing it for sale on AT&T's site like three months later and I was damned glad I returned mine two weeks after buying it. Now I doubt their WP7 entries are anything close to that bad but it left such a bad taste for LG that I bought the Focus and I'm glad I did, the screen is spectacular and since I spend a lot of time with video players and Slingplayer, it was a no-brainer.

I had both. Put some of my inital thought here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9292397&postcount=6
will review a comparison peice this weekend.

Droid Turbo 2 First Impressions

I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
Good
Turbo charging is much faster.
The screen quality is great (plastic smchmastic!)
Power and volume buttons are improved.
This puppy is fast!
Android 5.1.1 is snappy.
New Moto tools are nice. I'm fond of "lift for voice."
The form factor is an improvement over the Turbo.
Addition of the SD card is very welcome!
I prefer the soft touch material to the Kevlar or ballistic nylon options on the Turbo.
The camera is surprisingly good and has zero shutter lag. It took some good pictures in low light.
Drum roll please... The volume is excellent!!!
Not so good
Do they have to keep making them bigger?
Did I mention it's bigger?
A fingerprint scanner would have been a welcomed addition.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's bigger.
Silly little Verizon logo on the chin is unnecessary.
I'll update this list throughout the day.

Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?

Martingitdave said:
I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
I'll update this list throughout the day.
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Any chance you can post a photo/vid of the screens side by side on like min/mid/max brightness?
I have a Maxx, but won the DT2 during the droidseeker disaster yesterday

Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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Martingitdave said:
Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.

So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.

calash said:
Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?
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I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.

asuhoops8628 said:
ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.
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Perhaps, but I can't find fault with it. Probably more black around the screen then some of the newer slimmer phones.

Martingitdave said:
I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.
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I've read reviews that say only the right portion of the bottom speaker bit is actually used for music/speakerphone. No idea if they knew what they were talking about though. Could the bit to the left just be for looks?

rajuabju said:
So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.
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No, as far as I am concerned the screen quality is at least equal.

Yeah I'd say the negatives pretty much come down to:
1. Big
2. No fingerprint scanner yet
3. Screen size is not as big as it could be, verizon logo, lost some of the aesthetic appeal since the Moto X

Fwiw I looked at four different T2s and every screen was dark and dingy compared to my Pure with full brightness on all of them.
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At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.

I overheard a sales person saying that they give you a code to follow up with Moto directly. No idea if this is true. Probably a lot of confusion with a new program.
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calash said:
At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.
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I put a motomaker order in at about 9pm last night, by 1030, it was "being built." I could see it shipping in 24 hours based on this. I seem to remember hearing motomaker would be 1-2 days to build.

Against my principle of waiting for it to have android 6 (so I have no right to complain if it takes forever to get marshmallow... I knew better Lol), I picked up a turbo 2 today.
So far I like it a lot. I was worried about the screen being too detached with all of the layers, and while it does seem farther away than on my note 5, it isn't a big deal to me.
No fingerprint scanner isn't a big deal to me since I have a moto 360, and use it as a trusted device.
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Picked up a dt2 today. Traded in my old lg g2. Loved my droid maxx and still have it as a backup phone. So far I'm really liking this phone. Screen is bright and ui seems fast. Camera is OK but I've seen better. Fp scanner would have been nice but not a have to for me right now. Under development option there's a unlock oem bootloader toggle. Not sure what's that about. It can't be that easy. Yeah the split grills at bottom are not too attractive but hey who really looks at your phone but you. It's not that big a deal to me. Sound is pretty good. Overall I'm happy.

So been away from XDA for a while but just picked up my Droid Turbo 2 and loving it so far... Nice solid build quality, solid reception, Ballistic material has a nice feel, cameras are typical moto in my opinion but good enough for my use... the front flash for the times when the gf wants a selfie is going to be a big plus... overall very pleased so far... looking forward to more time with this device....
Also OEM (bootloader unlocking) has a toggle under developer options so maybe it wont be so locked down...

Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root

rajuabju said:
Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root
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Really? I was going to order online and was going to do the promotion of the trade in, but they only appraised my Turbo at a value of $191
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Was going to preorder LG G5 but will wait for M10 now

The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.

I'm waiting too.

MrNetwork said:
The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
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Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...

i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo

alray said:
Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
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Thanks for the tip. I'll heed your advice.

codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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All metal? Ha! I'm glad I resisted and didn't buy this. After watching these, I would have been unhappy. Thanks.

codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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Wow! Hopefully the HTC 10 will be better.

Me too

codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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That tear down video is a plus for me. The phone is easy to repair! The only criticism he makes is the "lack of premium feel". Personally that is way down on my list of concerns. I am not looking to impress anyone with how great my phone looks and I doubt anyone gives a damn anyway. I look for the features I want first and foremost. I have to admit I was not happy with how thin the glass over the screen is on the other video. That does kind off suck but I don't think it is a deal breaker for me.
I have a G5 arriving tomorrow. The camera and the replaceabe battery are what sold me. The free extra battery and charge case and the free 360 degree camera made me jump on it. I will miss the wireless charging now I am accustomed to it and have charge plates sitting everywhere! I only wonder if I should hold off opening the box until I can find out more about the HTC 10 after it is released on the 12th. I

I believe LG is on to something-- a modular phone has been my geek dream since the birth of smartphones! However, I don't think the first generation "beta" of this feature is going to be where it's at. There are a couple WOW mods (Battery and camera) that are simply awesome, but otherwise this first iteration is just a really nice albeit average phone with some snap-in "meh."
If the M10 fails to impress, the G5 is probably what I'm going to get. I didn't pre-order the G5, so I won't be getting the package either way.

I pre-ordered the G5 as I wasn't convinced of the HTC 2016 flagship a month ago.
However my pre-order for the G5 has now been delayed to the 22nd April and as a result I've been following the build up and now really liking the look of the HTC 10.
If it has a 5.1 inch or bigger LCD (not AMOLED), SD 820, 4GB RAM, I think I'll cancel my G5 and get this. I'd want the black face though, either with silver back or black back, I don't like the white fronted version in the leaks....
Time will tell tomorrow.

The G5 is a flop. Most of the reviews say it's half baked and pretty lackluster. The only good thing anyone has to say about it is that the camera is good.
I am currently using the S7 Edge but I have one more Jump until June. (I am on T-Mobile's Jump on Demand program which gives me 3 upgrades a year). I was going to maybe move to the G5 or the HTC 10 since I wasn't all that impressed with the S7E. After the major update T-Mobile pushed out for the S7E last week, my mind changed and I am now extremely impressed with the S7E. The battery lasts forever and the touchscreen is no longer overly sensitive.
That being said, I will wait to see what the HTC 10 brings. I love the look of the phone and I like Sense more than TW. The only thing I wish it had was a larger display but I can live with 5.2".
At the end of the day, the G5 is already crossed off the list. I played around with one in the store and was totally unimpressed. It felt like crap in my hand. The chamfered edges are too sharp and feel uncomfortable while I'm gaming in horizontal view. The display is also very average. Not impressed one bit. I wouldn't call it bad but it wasn't what I'd expect from LG. When it comes to looks, I know it comes down to personal preference but damn the G5 us fugly. When you hold a S7E next to it, you can just see that the S7E is on a whole nother level when it comes to sleekness. Everything wasn't bad for the G5 though. The UI felt snappy and I didn't notice and lag/jitters.

I like the look and feel of the G5. I think all the phones pretty much look the same and I really don't care that much about it anyone. I don't think anyone is getting laid because their phone is so impressive. I have been wanting a wide angle shooter on a phone for years...awesome! I have always carried spare batteries. I can always go from 10% to 100% in seconds.....also awesome!
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LG g5 is DOA. I'm returning mine. Better competition. The build quality alone isn't very good as that gap between the module and Chassis is frustrating. Moreover, the camera isn't as good as the S7 Edge.
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I've cancelled my g5 order. It getting delayed was definitely meant to be as I've ordered the htc 10 for only £13 more

After seeing the HTC 10 today it's looking very promising. Much better than the G5.

What do you mean by better? The finish and feel might be slicker but that is not my main concern. I will miss the wireless charging on my S3 but the 10 doesn't have that either. The replaceable battery and wide angle shooter are what makes me want the G5. No matter how great the phone looks it ain't much good if the battery craps out on you at 2AM and you are not at home! Zero to 100% in seconds will always be a winner for me. I always carry a spare battery. No matter how strong the battery life of the S7 is it will not be as good in a year! The fee charge cradle, spare battery, and 360 camera cinched it for me (I see the T-mo offer on the 360 cam had been extended so you can still get it).
Did you see the breakdown review on juryrigeverythind.com (I think that is it)? The G5 will be very easy to repair. That makes up for a little sloppiness in built to me, as long as everything works ok from the start. I think they all look like cell phones. If you want to look cool get some new clothes, nobody is looking at your phone and judging you on it!
None of the reviews fault the G5 on performance, it is a beast. Most of the reviewers discount the friends module aspect of the phone because there are not many now and it is questionable what will develop. Still, the idea that I might get surprised with some cool new module feature is a plus for me. Who doesn't get a little bored with the phone after a couple years? I think the G5 is getting unfair treatment by a lot of reviewers.
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The big cross against G5 is the locked (or unlocked custom as seen on Tmobile variant) bootloader. That's a big one for me. I was looking at G5 and gave up on it because of that.
As for battery, I just carry a 10k slab and charge up my phone using that if I am not next to a wall or laptop or pc. Who wants to reboot the phone for a replaceable battery! So, I will likely not use that unique feature of G5 ever.

Going to wait and see what this feels like in hand, coming from 5.5 and up phones I don't want this to feel tiny in my hands.
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I've had my G5 for 2 days now. Build is good- the modular piece seams nicely, feels good in hand. Tested for light bleed- minimal bleed on top and only noticeable in darkened room with test app, very accceptable. I read about someone having a proble with the audio jack- mine is very tight. Someone said they had hissing sound with BT- mine is great with my jawbone and my car unit. Battery time is ok, maybe not great, I tend to be a heavy user. Quick charge is very fast, about 1% per minute. I look forward to receiving the spare battery, unlike previous poster I do not mind rebooting my phone, especially if I can go from 15% ot 100% in 30 seconds! Camera is very good, lover the wide angle. It seems that the metering only has center weight and matrix which disappoints but I may not be understanding the interface, need to find a manual, phone only comes with a quick start guide so I guess I can download from LG. Overall I am very happy. Can't wait to play around with promo 360 camera when it arrives!
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Is the S20 Ultra on display at Best Buy stores?

Just wondering. Anyone seen it on display at Best Buy yet?

felloffthetruck said:
Just wondering. Anyone seen it on display at Best Buy yet?
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It is by me in NY.

My local Best Buy doesn't have them, but my local Best Buy is small. I might head out to the larger one an hour away to see if they have one.

VZTech said:
It is by me in NY.
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Which one?

Yes : VA
I love the new camera ui. Wish someone could get the apk ))

Polishow said:
Which one?
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All of them

My bestbuy in Battle creek Michigan has them, and I held the Black S20 ultra and its awesome, can`t wait for mine to come from Samsung.

I'm in Westchester County, N.Y. The Best Buy at Hartsdale doesn't have it but the Best Buy at Yonkers does. They have the Galaxy Fold inside a glass encasing like it's something holy lmao
But the S20 Ultra is a mammoth. Holy crap. When I held my Pixel 4 XL to it, I just felt like the Pixel has been so outclassed. The screen is so much better on the S20 Ultra, it's loads better than the Note 10 too.
I was on the fence about buying it, but it's happening now. It's going to be nice to have a wide angle lens, higher brightness, SD card, etc. again.

I'm in Maryland, near Washington DC and my local Best Buy had on their display

Elastep said:
Yes : VA
I love the new camera ui. Wish someone could get the apk ))
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It brings back the pro mode in video, correct?
That was the biggest slap in the face when they removed it!

Played around with it and it's as expected. Activated 120Hz and it's fluid for sure.
Brightness was at 100% and no issues with seeing the display at 200+ foot candle "showroom" levels!
Interestingly enough, 8K capture was locked out. Played some music and it was hard to hear (80dB ambient!) but I could really feel the bass through the back glass panel almost like it was a passive radiator. Not sure if this is a good thing or not.
Checked security patch and it's obvious this thing can go past 88mph because it's been to the future! Patch level is March 01!

cpufrost said:
Played around with it and it's as expected. Activated 120Hz and it's fluid for sure.
Brightness was at 100% and no issues with seeing the display at 200+ foot candle "showroom" levels!
Interestingly enough, 8K capture was locked out. Played some music and it was hard to hear (80dB ambient!) but I could really feel the bass through the back glass panel almost like it was a passive radiator. Not sure if this is a good thing or not.
Checked security patch and it's obvious this thing can go past 88mph because it's been to the future! Patch level is March 01!
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Wonder how long til they get screen burned. 1 month?
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Hmm I just left Best buy can compared camera between ultra, 20 plus and my s10 plus, I'm not sure why but the s20 plus produced the best pictures inside of bestbuy, now I'm wondering if I should cancel my preorder for the ultra

Shuthefrontdoor said:
Hmm I just left Best buy can compared camera between ultra, 20 plus and my s10 plus, I'm not sure why but the s20 plus produced the best pictures inside of bestbuy, now I'm wondering if I should cancel my preorder for the ultra
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Samsung still messing around with the new sensor on the Ultra. It will get better, and surpass the plus in time.

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Wonder how long til they get screen burned. 1 month?
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It shouldn't if proper countermeasures are in place. I've never had an iPhone OLED get burn in even my 2+ year old X that's been plugged into the charger and running at brightness 100% for hours every day as a music controller. Granted, I'm actually trying to get some afterimage and it's not happening. Probably because I WANT it! LOL

Thanks for the info i went to bestbuy to compare.I turned on the 120 hz mode then i started comparing it to my s10+ . Damn now i cannot unsee how fluid it was when i was scrolling through browsers and the luancher. Cannot wait to get the s20 ultra .

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It shouldn't if proper countermeasures are in place. I've never had an iPhone OLED get burn in even my 2+ year old X that's been plugged into the charger and running at brightness 100% for hours every day as a music controller. Granted, I'm actually trying to get some afterimage and it's not happening. Probably because I WANT it! LOL
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I was referring to the display models at Best buy that the person I quoted mentioned.
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Just played around with one at my local best buy. I was surprised with it having only 4 Gb Ram available. Hope thats not the case for retail units. I don't really play games on my phone, so i am hoping to always around 8-9 gb available.

Djapatos said:
Just played around with one at my local best buy. I was surprised with it having only 4 Gb Ram available. Hope thats not the case for retail units. I don't really play games on my phone, so i am hoping to always around 8-9 gb available.
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM, and wasted battery. The phone reserves some for quick load times but will kill apps to load larger ones seemlessly.

General First impressions - not great

So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated. [edit, so ok this might be a setting issue]
Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion. [edit: watch out for 'bars' of 'noise' in photos though and random white balance issues - the latter is probably not as bad as Samsung's over HDR/WB saturation though]
The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++
I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.
It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.
Hey, Google, where's my refund?!

The fingerprint reader alone is why this is going back. Holy Christ. What were they thinking? If their goal was to create a bunch of eWaste then they succeeded.

smallfish82 said:
So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated.
Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion.
The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++
I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.
It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.
Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
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I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points
1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.

my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.

Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.
You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.
Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.

Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.

Nekromantik said:
Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
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Oneplus phones have the volume on the left and the power on the right with the alert slider. Been that way since at least the 5. Seems like you would know this before mentioning something so basic LOL.

The blue in photo taken in a dark room is a WB issue most likely and/or there simply wasn't enough light in the red spectrum vs blue when shot.
May or may not be a defect or software glitch.
Samsung actually puts a lot of effort into their UI.
It looks and acts nothing like a Pixel. Samsung's stock customization is second to none with hundreds of free customization apps, themes and icon packs. I saw nothing released this year I wanted; display problems, 5G issues, major Android 11/12 fubars, and no SD card slot on most of the flagships.
So... fk it, got a 2nd new N10+ 4G Snapdragon running on 10. No regrets.

If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.

GohanBurner said:
The fingerprint reader alone is why this is going back. Holy Christ. What were they thinking? If their goal was to create a bunch of eWaste then they succeeded.
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What's wrong with it? I've used mine for almost 24 hours now and I have not had it fail a single time. I added each finger twice.

It's not that it's broken, it's that it's annoying. It's slow as hell compared to my 4a 5Gs traditional FPR and it lights up like a Christmas tree Everytime you use it. No thanks.

I have multiple fingers saved, it fails more times than it succeeds

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Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
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P6 Pro screen is a Samsung panel too.

About these fingerprint sensors.... unlike a knowledge-based password or pattern, biometric data is NOT protected by the US 5th amendment or laws in other jurisdictions that protect you against self-incrimination.
Nothing to hide? Then don't need a security lock to begin with, so its a non-starter if you try to argue that.

mrsean said:
P6 Pro screen is a Samsung panel too.
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You sure about that? Might be. However in general what they mean is as found on phones with a samsucks label on them. They calibrate them in a more cartoonish manner.

had some issues at first when I was setting up but after the update i deleted the scans and re did them. Not one issue unlocking since.

skimminstones said:
had some issues at first wheni was setting uo but after the update i deleted the scans and re did them. Not one issue unlocking since.
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I guess I need this update. I've redone the print unlock several times for my left thumb, and a couple for my right. Still pretty bad. I've checked for an update a couple times, and nothing.

thetonyclifton said:
Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.
You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.
Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
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Not on mine you can't. I guess it's poor of carrier to stick that in their configuration and even worse for Google to enable the option in the first place...
The screen colour might be rectified as advised - the colour of photos on the Pixel 6 is more realistic but then the white balance is a lottery. [not that Samsung are great at it either of course!]

gettinwicked said:
I guess I need this update. I've redone the print unlock several times for my left thumb, and a couple for my right. Still pretty bad. I've checked for an update a couple times, and nothing.
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You might have a dud. Mine is better than the Samsung one (but hey, I last set up that like 6 months ago) but the light. Ow, the blinding light. I don't want to see the composition of my thumb each time I want to unlock the phone!

mrsean said:
P6 Pro screen is a Samsung panel too.
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I read this in several posts too. I guess Samsung is the largest producer of screen now... even Apple have used them IIRC.