So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated. [edit, so ok this might be a setting issue]
Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion. [edit: watch out for 'bars' of 'noise' in photos though and random white balance issues - the latter is probably not as bad as Samsung's over HDR/WB saturation though]
The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++
I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.
It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.
Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
The fingerprint reader alone is why this is going back. Holy Christ. What were they thinking? If their goal was to create a bunch of eWaste then they succeeded.
smallfish82 said:
So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated.
Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion.
The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++
I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.
It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.
Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
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I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points
1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.
my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.
Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.
You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.
Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
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Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
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Oneplus phones have the volume on the left and the power on the right with the alert slider. Been that way since at least the 5. Seems like you would know this before mentioning something so basic LOL.
The blue in photo taken in a dark room is a WB issue most likely and/or there simply wasn't enough light in the red spectrum vs blue when shot.
May or may not be a defect or software glitch.
Samsung actually puts a lot of effort into their UI.
It looks and acts nothing like a Pixel. Samsung's stock customization is second to none with hundreds of free customization apps, themes and icon packs. I saw nothing released this year I wanted; display problems, 5G issues, major Android 11/12 fubars, and no SD card slot on most of the flagships.
So... fk it, got a 2nd new N10+ 4G Snapdragon running on 10. No regrets.
If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.
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The fingerprint reader alone is why this is going back. Holy Christ. What were they thinking? If their goal was to create a bunch of eWaste then they succeeded.
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What's wrong with it? I've used mine for almost 24 hours now and I have not had it fail a single time. I added each finger twice.
It's not that it's broken, it's that it's annoying. It's slow as hell compared to my 4a 5Gs traditional FPR and it lights up like a Christmas tree Everytime you use it. No thanks.
I have multiple fingers saved, it fails more times than it succeeds
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P6 Pro screen is a Samsung panel too.
About these fingerprint sensors.... unlike a knowledge-based password or pattern, biometric data is NOT protected by the US 5th amendment or laws in other jurisdictions that protect you against self-incrimination.
Nothing to hide? Then don't need a security lock to begin with, so its a non-starter if you try to argue that.
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You sure about that? Might be. However in general what they mean is as found on phones with a samsucks label on them. They calibrate them in a more cartoonish manner.
had some issues at first when I was setting up but after the update i deleted the scans and re did them. Not one issue unlocking since.
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had some issues at first wheni was setting uo but after the update i deleted the scans and re did them. Not one issue unlocking since.
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I guess I need this update. I've redone the print unlock several times for my left thumb, and a couple for my right. Still pretty bad. I've checked for an update a couple times, and nothing.
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Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.
You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.
Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
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Not on mine you can't. I guess it's poor of carrier to stick that in their configuration and even worse for Google to enable the option in the first place...
The screen colour might be rectified as advised - the colour of photos on the Pixel 6 is more realistic but then the white balance is a lottery. [not that Samsung are great at it either of course!]
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I guess I need this update. I've redone the print unlock several times for my left thumb, and a couple for my right. Still pretty bad. I've checked for an update a couple times, and nothing.
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You might have a dud. Mine is better than the Samsung one (but hey, I last set up that like 6 months ago) but the light. Ow, the blinding light. I don't want to see the composition of my thumb each time I want to unlock the phone!
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I read this in several posts too. I guess Samsung is the largest producer of screen now... even Apple have used them IIRC.
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Hardware is beautiful and working great thus far, coming from a blackberry z10.
issues:
- noticed the best buy demo units are slightly snappier and quicker vs the verizon one that was released
- spigen cases i tried covered up thr mic holes at bottom by charger so need to change cases now (reported in another thread)
- i config'd my 5 non-gmail email accounts (hotmail, outlook, yahoo, etc) and noticed my battery was draining like crazy, 50% gone in like an hour, phone was super hot, and then i realized ghe inbox for all accounts was not syncing and phone keeps retrying constantly. after thorough testing, the issue was that if "group by email conversations" was setup for each account under account advanced settings, once i disabled this for all my accounts, the device was flying, no hot phone, and battery was great
1. I am surprised Wiz is not the usual mess and I am not compelled to go to Nova yet.
2. Radio reception for data is the same as the S3 and S4. Same high battery drain and hottish device in weak signal areas. Good though in medium or better signal areas.
3. Display is great, but still would rather have a great 1080p for battery more battery life.
4. Audio output is low from the audio jack, but Poweramp's gain increase fixes this.
5. Sound quality from the audio jack is good.
6. The speaker is okay, but could be better.
7. Charge time with included charger is fast.
8. Performance is as great.
I would like to agree with everything above and add:
1. Switched to Nova Launcher and is a bit snappier.
2. Not sure how much faster this phone is compared to my LG G3 real world.
3. I must say the N4 stock UI is faster than the LG G3 stock UI.
4. Samsung should really take a page from HTC One M8 or the LG G3 for audio sound quality and output. Both of those phones smoke my N4 especially in volume loudness.
Using Neutron Player and Westover W40s with all lossless recordings. Definitely need to crank up the preamp a bit.
5. Feature set is Awesome so far.
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I would like to agree with everything above and add:
1. Switched to Nova Launcher and is a bit snappier.
2. Not sure how much faster this phone is compared to my LG G3 real world.
3. I must say the N4 stock UI is faster than the LG G3 stock UI.
4. Samsung should really take a page from HTC One M8 or the LG G3 for audio sound quality and output. Both of those phones smoke my N4 especially in volume loudness.
Using Neutron Player and Westover W40s with all lossless recordings. Definitely need to crank up the preamp a bit.
5. Feature set is Awesome so far.
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agree note 4 stock ui smokes g3 stock ui
Everything is a positive for me but recent app button (wish it was menu on one tap and recent button was long press on home button hopefully root will fix) and screen wake for text msgs besides that its perfect
any bluetooth issues? Or is it just my accessories (jawbone speaker, car stero)--doesn't even see device
Yes I put it in discover mode while scanning
minor issues
I'm finding that the audio jack is really finnicky with different types of headphones. Some don't work at all. I've seen in the store some are compatible with Apple or Android, is there a way to tell the difference by looking at the plug?
Also I agree that this phone looks incredible, however when looking at the black version, if you look inside the USB port it does appear to still be plastic with some sort of metal coating. This is also evident if you remove the s pen and look at the back case. It is a whitish gray color. The antenna lines through the sides of the case are also white where the bevel is on the front and back. It doesnt bother me at all, just something that I noticed.
One last thing is that on certain videos on YouTube I don't have the option for 1440p. I know on my tab s I had to go back to an earlier version of youtube to get this. Does anyone else have this option for videos on YouTube that are 1440p on their computers or tablets?
Are any of you getting extreme lag with Facebook and instagram?
Cons:
1. The stock launcher is slow. Nova is tons better.
2. Had to turn off all those animations within the developer menu. Device is much speedier now.
3. Glass protectors shows this halo effect because of the 2.5 glass. Wish they just left the screen completely flat.
4. Fingerprint scanner works great with my index fingers but not my thumbs. But once lollipop hits I won't be using the fingerprint scanner for unlocking purposes. A Bluetooth or NFC device will work nicely.
5. Root on the Verizon model may come to Kitkat but it might be near impossible on Lollipop.
6. And where the heck is Gear VR?
Pros:
1. The display quality is better vs Note 3
2. Touchwiz actually looks nice when it comes to the settings menu.
3. The IR blaster strength is so much better vs the Note 3. I don't have to point straight at my devices.
4. The build is a clear step up. Feels super solid.
5. Best camera I've used in a smartphone.
6. Gear VR is the primary reason for upgrading to the Note 4.
The 3 apps I recommend for this phone is:
AcDisplay = Moto X like notifications
Gravity Screen = Turn phone on and off without the power key. Wave hands over the proximity sensor to see AcDisplay and place phone face down to turn off.
Smart Remote = Unleash the true potential of the IR blaster.
Yes I get the the lag on Facebook as well
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Are any of you getting extreme lag with Facebook and instagram?
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no phones flies on everything.
new issue. bezels are chipping and scratched already. going to go in and get new note or ask for refund
oneandroidnut said:
no phones flies on everything.
new issue. bezels are chipping and scratched already. going to go in and get new note or ask for refund
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Same here. Mine came with scratches on the bezel right out of the box. Might just be exchanging for the turbo or getting a new note 4. Still in my 14 day return period! ?
asides from technical issues, physical issues included from other posts
- not that many cases have the proper mic holes for VZW N4
- most glass screen protectors are causing halo effects, manufacturers still working on them
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Same here. Mine came with scratches on the bezel right out of the box. Might just be exchanging for the turbo or getting a new note 4. Still in my 14 day return period! ?
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seriously!? glad im not the only one. i am returning for the refund (minus $35 restock fee) and probably going to buy dev ed note but we will see. going to go in tomorrow or this weekend when turbo is out. i have until nov 5th
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seriously!? glad im not the only one. i am returning for the refund (minus $35 restock fee) and probably going to buy dev ed note but we will see. going to go in tomorrow or this weekend when turbo is out. i have until nov 5th
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Yea, I watched the Verizon employee take it out of the box and immediately hand it right to me. The first thing I noticed was the scratch on the top lol. It really disappointed me. Anyways I hope the turbo is in the stores tomorrow so I can make a quick exchange. Does it take a couple days to do a even exchange? I bought my phone from a Verizon retail store.
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Yea, I watched the Verizon employee take it out of the box and immediately hand it right to me. The first thing I noticed was the scratch on the top lol. It really disappointed me. Anyways I hope the turbo is in the stores tomorrow so I can make a quick exchange. Does it take a couple days to do a even exchange? I bought my phone from a Verizon retail store.
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wow i dont know how mine got it. it came off all in my case and it is a mess. and i am just returning for refund. i havent even opened factory battery yet lol and they should exchange in store no problem
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wow i dont know how mine got it. it came off all in my case and it is a mess. and i am just returning for refund. i havent even opened factory battery yet lol and they should exchange in store no problem
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Yea they have to accept it if it doesn't show screen damage and really bad damage.
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Yea they have to accept it if it doesn't show screen damage and really bad damage.
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yup im just going to go in and not say a word about anything just say i want to return too many good phones right now i dont know what to get and check out turbo while i am there lol
My wife and I both got new note 4s this weekend. I wanted to wait for a black one (BB only had white), but yesterday was the last day to get the $200 trade in on my ancient Evo. Overall, it's been a good experience. I noticed that I have a bit of a gap on the right side of my white note 4, but it is less of a gap than I had on my old GS3. I got a case that covers the gap, anyway.
Things I love:
1. The spen is very cool. There's so much that I can do with it, and am still figuring it all out.
2. I've never had a phone that had such good radios. Places that I normally struggle with 3g get me a couple of bars of 4g. My GS3 was terrible with the radios. Really, just terrible. I'm not sure if there is another current phone that has radios this good.
3. The screen really is a thing of beauty. Pictures are sharp, and colors are bright and vibrant.
4. The build quality is solid. The phone feels great. The buttons all have solid click feedback. Serious thought went in to the aesthetics of this phone. I've never had a complaint about that on any Samsung phone that I've had or used.
Issues that I'm having:
1. The wifi is terrible. I have a Netgear Nighthawk router. I've played with the settings a bit, and nothing that I've done has made a difference. None of my other electronic devices are having a problem. Well, except for my wife's note 4.
2. There is an ever so slight greenish tint at the very bottom of the screen that's only visible on white screens. Sometimes I am not even sure if I'm seeing it. My wife does not see it at all. I do tend to be picky about screens, and will willingly return an electronic device because of screen issues. It's most noticeable on lower brightness, and not noticeable on full brightness.
3. The viewing angles on this aren't that great. Mine is actually better than my wife's. If I tilt her phone even a bit, it starts to look greenish. Mine will do it as well, but it takes a more extreme angle.
4. The colors ARE amazing, except for white. White isn't really well represented on either of our phones, unless the brightness is cranked up.
5. Chalk this one up to personal preference. The phone is huge! The GS3 is so much smaller than this. I've read a lot of comments that say that you just need to give it a bit of time to get used to the size. I've only had it for a day, so it remains to be seen if I will adapt.
These seem like a lot of complaints, but really, they're minor. For the most part, this is a solid phone with a TON of cool features. I've been looking at all of the phones for quite a while, and there simply isn't another phone with this array of neat stuff.
The thing is, I feel like there really aren't any phones out there that as good as this one. Looked at the iPhone like I do every time my contract is up, and there's really nothing new there. I really have to laugh at NFC that can only be used for Apple Pay. The droid turbo seems ok, but looks a bit dated. And it's sort of a fat phone, though it's much more pocketable than the Note. I also spent some time looking at the G3, and just didn't like it. I'm not even sure why. Maybe it was the skin.
I am not sure what I'll end up doing with it, because I don't know what I'd get if I did return it. I don't want to exchange this one just for a perceived screen issue that might only exist in my mind and that I probably won't notice two weeks from now. Participating in a screen lottery only leads to madness, and I've been down that path before. My GS3 didn't have the most uniform screen, and I totally forgot about it. Because both of our Note 4s have wifi issues, I'm guessing that it's not hardware related.
I think what it comes down to is, can I adapt to the size?
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My wife and I both got new note 4s this weekend. I wanted to wait for a black one (BB only had white), but yesterday was the last day to get the $200 trade in on my ancient Evo. Overall, it's been a good experience. I noticed that I have a bit of a gap on the right side of my white note 4, but it is less of a gap than I had on my old GS3. I got a case that covers the gap, anyway.
Things I love:
1. The spen is very cool. There's so much that I can do with it, and am still figuring it all out.
2. I've never had a phone that had such good radios. Places that I normally struggle with 3g get me a couple of bars of 4g. My GS3 was terrible with the radios. Really, just terrible. I'm not sure if there is another current phone that has radios this good.
3. The screen really is a thing of beauty. Pictures are sharp, and colors are bright and vibrant.
4. The build quality is solid. The phone feels great. The buttons all have solid click feedback. Serious thought went in to the aesthetics of this phone. I've never had a complaint about that on any Samsung phone that I've had or used.
Issues that I'm having:
1. The wifi is terrible. I have a Netgear Nighthawk router. I've played with the settings a bit, and nothing that I've done has made a difference. None of my other electronic devices are having a problem. Well, except for my wife's note 4.
2. There is an ever so slight greenish tint at the very bottom of the screen that's only visible on white screens. Sometimes I am not even sure if I'm seeing it. My wife does not see it at all. I do tend to be picky about screens, and will willingly return an electronic device because of screen issues. It's most noticeable on lower brightness, and not noticeable on full brightness.
3. The viewing angles on this aren't that great. Mine is actually better than my wife's. If I tilt her phone even a bit, it starts to look greenish. Mine will do it as well, but it takes a more extreme angle.
4. The colors ARE amazing, except for white. White isn't really well represented on either of our phones, unless the brightness is cranked up.
5. Chalk this one up to personal preference. The phone is huge! The GS3 is so much smaller than this. I've read a lot of comments that say that you just need to give it a bit of time to get used to the size. I've only had it for a day, so it remains to be seen if I will adapt.
These seem like a lot of complaints, but really, they're minor. For the most part, this is a solid phone with a TON of cool features. I've been looking at all of the phones for quite a while, and there simply isn't another phone with this array of neat stuff.
The thing is, I feel like there really aren't any phones out there that as good as this one. Looked at the iPhone like I do every time my contract is up, and there's really nothing new there. I really have to laugh at NFC that can only be used for Apple Pay. The droid turbo seems ok, but looks a bit dated. And it's sort of a fat phone, though it's much more pocketable than the Note. I also spent some time looking at the G3, and just didn't like it. I'm not even sure why. Maybe it was the skin.
I am not sure what I'll end up doing with it, because I don't know what I'd get if I did return it. I don't want to exchange this one just for a perceived screen issue that might only exist in my mind and that I probably won't notice two weeks from now. Participating in a screen lottery only leads to madness, and I've been down that path before. My GS3 didn't have the most uniform screen, and I totally forgot about it. Because both of our Note 4s have wifi issues, I'm guessing that it's not hardware related.
I think what it comes down to is, can I adapt to the size?
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I have a note 3, give it a few weeks, and the phone becomes "normal" size. I had issues with size when I first got my note 2.
No voice command to turn off the alarm clock?
I don't know if I just am unable to find it but have you guys figured out if there's a voice command to "STOP" the alarm clock? I loved it back when I was using my Note 2. I am pretty sure that this feature also existed on the Note 3. Did Samsung decide to take this feature out on the Note 4? It may not be a big deal but it still was such a convenient feature.
Figured we probably needed a place to put everyone's first impressions.
I'll start with first, this thing is small and light! Coming from a V20 and a Nexus 6 before that, this thing is tiny. Last time I felt like I had a phone this size was the Galaxy Nexus. (Yeah, I know. That one was probably actually smaller than this but still, this thing feels that small in hand to me. I've been using nothing but phablets since that phone.) It feels closer in size to my work iPhone 6s than my V20. That's going to take some getting used to. It's in a case now but still feels small.
Still trying to get used to some app behaviors that seemed to have changed. For instance, Weather Channel app is having all kinds of issues. Shows as a sensitive notification on the lock screen vs my V20 where it isn't, because it isn't. The widget doesn't display information without being cut off. I still need to go log into all my apps and get them set up.
Camera. Haven't really taken any shots with it yet but I did dig through it. First, I'm not happy that it always opens in auto mode. The V20 would open in whatever mode you last had it in. I prefer manual mode and liked that I could just open it, make a quick adjustment to the settings and shoot. Now I have to dive into a menu to get to manual then make adjustments and shoot. It'll slow things down quite a bit. I am happy that Graphy can be shut off. Also, noise reduction can be shut off in manual. It was actually disabled by default. Going to do a lot of test shooting today.
Hoping to hit up the museum I used to work in and always test every camera I own there. Also hitting up an outdoor night event here as well as the jazz club. It's going to get one helluva workout today! Going to take my V20 and Nikon V3 along too. Not sure how much I'll use the V3 outside of the outdoor event. Not going to bother taking my DSLR. (I'm actually in the process of downsizing my photography to smaller cameras. DSLRs have gotten way too clean and clinical for my tastes.)
Nice! I can’t wait to see the pics it takes.
I played with this at Verizon yesterday, and I'm still on the fence. The front facing camera was HORRIBLE. I held my G5 next to it and took a selfie, and the G5 was so much better. The rear camera did seem to take awesome shots, but still slow to take and delay in swiping between front and back cameras, something I really thought they'd have a better handle on by now since I had the same issues in the G4 and G5. I loved it otherwise, I think it's a gorgeous phone, I like the looks a lot more than the Galaxy phones.
I went in wanting the phone, but two separate Verizon reps were adamant in saying I should stay away from LG, that they have nothing but problems, they only sold maybe 2 G6's, they have class action lawsuits against them, and they tell customers to go take a hike when asking for a new phone after having multiple of them die in a row from a known defect. Theyd rather keep sending you defective phones repeatedly under warranty. So idk. I'm reeeally torn between this and the S8+ which has very similar specs and is cheaper at this point, but I don't like having only one rear camera.
Initial results at the museum are looking pretty good. I'm impressed so far for the most part. As for selfie camera issues, I was disappointed at first until I figured out those stupid settings at the bottom of the screen. After you turn off the skin toning and lightning, the images are much better. Then they work well with post processing.
Have you had a chance to play w Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi/Data connection? My G4 had bad bluetooth disconnections and busted gps in the G5. Just curious how the different antennae have been working for you. Good battery life?
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Have you had a chance to play w Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi/Data connection? My G4 had bad bluetooth disconnections and busted gps in the G5. Just curious how the different antennae have been working for you. Good battery life?
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Haven't played with GPS yet. I can't really speak to how well or not how well it works. I used wifi during set-up. It worked but my wifi is slower than my network connection and I regretted using it. Not a knock on the wifi of this phone, it's just that my carrier network is that much faster than my home wifi. Only BT I've done so far is to connect it to my car. That went much better and smoother than my V20. It took me many attempts over an hour and a half to get my V20 and car paired. The V30 paired the first time. The next test will be to see if I have to restart my phone after a few days to keep the connection from going wonky. (Which is a ritual with my V20 that occurred at least once a week.)
I got mine this past Friday. It is slippery to hold, you will def need a case to keep it from sliding out of your hand. I'm still not sure why designers can make insanely powerful devices but can't figure out that you actually need to hold on to it to use it. I'll probably get a DBrand skin or equiv when they are available. It is super light. Kinda feels flimsy it is so lightweight even though it is not. My last phone was a Nexus 6P, before that an HTC M9, before that an HTC M7. All three of those feel like tanks by comparison. I'm not sure yet if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Camera is nice but uses a lot of noise reduction. It has endless options that will take some time getting used to. I'm not sure yet if it is as good as HTC's U11 which as an incredible camera IMO (my GF has a U11). Looks better than my Nexus 6p for sure though. Much faster too. I love the wide angle lens!
Audio from Headphone jack is insane. I'm using the BEATS headphones from my old HTC One, I can only imagine how good it would sound with high end headphones. Phone speaker is ehhh. Nowheres near as good as HTC or Google phones with front facing speakers. Or HTC U11 which seems to have crazy sound magically radiate into space.
As for speed, its as fast as any other 2017 phone I have tried, the hardware is all the same. The screen is amazing. I mean AMAZING! I can't really see a difference between 1080 and 1440 quality or speed wise. I thought at first there was but now think it is more of a placebo effect. I have been keeping it maxed mostly for the bragging rights of it being higher rez than Apple's silly Superduper mega retina display, what ever that means.
It is to early for me to tell if battery life makes a difference with resolution. I have read it is supposed to eat more power with the higher rez. It isn't as near bezelless as I thought it would be. It seems to be a marketing trend for company renders to show super edge to edge displays until you actually get it and there are good sized bezels. Not that I mind, it is just something I noticed. The screens are not any larger, the phone is just shrinking around it making the device seem small and the screen seem smaller than it is. My Nexus 6p dwarfs the V30 in the hand and the display just feels larger on the Nexus even though it is not. Kind of another odd placebo effect.
Speaking of battery, it seems to last well over a day of playing hard with it but is still to early to tell since I keep plugging it in to transfer files. After the newness wears off I think I will be able to get 2 days out of it.
The power button, or lack there of is great I think. Instead of a dedicated button, it is just the fingerprint scanner. You can click it, hold it to open restart options etc. Works great and is non intrusive by comparison to a dedicated button that I usually hit by accident all the time.
The UI is not terrible. It is fast and responsive. For the record I am a fanboy of Sense and Stock. LG's UI has a lot more options for customization over Stock but some things seem like they just changed from stock to say they did. Especially in the Settings menu where they feel extra pages of settings tabs is preferable than a simple list. The worst part is LG's apps that are mostly broken or limited.
Contacts doesn't work right and crashes sometimes when I try and edit a contact. You can not fully disable it. I'm using Google Contacts when it will let me.
Calendar is ok, about the same as Google Calendar. Again you can not fully disable it for some reason.
Camera app is good so far, or at least I like it.
Messaging app sux. It freezes sometimes and when it works you can't insert gifs. Again you can't disable it. I'm using Google's Messenger.
Keyboard is limited, I just use the Google Keyboard.
Gallery is simple and works for on device pix but doesn't allow cloud access. Since most of my pix are on GoogleDrive I just use Google Photos. And again you can't disable it.
Smart Cleaning is a cleaner app. The phone is so fast I can't see any difference after using it.
LG Health I haven't tried yet.
LG Smart World is just some LG app browsing thing. Haven't really played with it other than browsing themes.
So far I love the phone. Out of 2017 phones I have used the HTC U11 and Essential Phone I like the V30 best of those 3. My biggest complaint is I just wish you could at least disable the LG bloatware apps so they can't start up. Maybe there is a special way to do it aside from rooting the device and going that route.
Hope this helps anyone considering the V30
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Figured we probably needed a place to put everyone's first impressions.
I'll start with first, this thing is small and light! Coming from a V20 and a Nexus 6 before that, this thing is tiny. Last time I felt like I had a phone this size was the Galaxy Nexus. (Yeah, I know. That one was probably actually smaller than this but still, this thing feels that small in hand to me. I've been using nothing but phablets since that phone.) It feels closer in size to my work iPhone 6s than my V20. That's going to take some getting used to. It's in a case now but still feels small.
Still trying to get used to some app behaviors that seemed to have changed. For instance, Weather Channel app is having all kinds of issues. Shows as a sensitive notification on the lock screen vs my V20 where it isn't, because it isn't. The widget doesn't display information without being cut off. I still need to go log into all my apps and get them set up.
Camera. Haven't really taken any shots with it yet but I did dig through it. First, I'm not happy that it always opens in auto mode. The V20 would open in whatever mode you last had it in. I prefer manual mode and liked that I could just open it, make a quick adjustment to the settings and shoot. Now I have to dive into a menu to get to manual then make adjustments and shoot. It'll slow things down quite a bit. I am happy that Graphy can be shut off. Also, noise reduction can be shut off in manual. It was actually disabled by default. Going to do a lot of test shooting today.
Hoping to hit up the museum I used to work in and always test every camera I own there. Also hitting up an outdoor night event here as well as the jazz club. It's going to get one helluva workout today! Going to take my V20 and Nikon V3 along too. Not sure how much I'll use the V3 outside of the outdoor event. Not going to bother taking my DSLR. (I'm actually in the process of downsizing my photography to smaller cameras. DSLRs have gotten way too clean and clinical for my tastes.)
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My biggest complaint is I just wish you could at least disable the LG bloatware apps so they can't start up. Maybe there is a special way to do it aside from rooting the device and going that route.
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Yep. This method works on G6, so it should work on V30 also, be careful on what you disable, you could potentially brick the device.
BTW any display problems? And what variant did you buy?
Thanks! As for the variant, I have the AT&T 64gig one. There are a few AT&T apps, all can be disabled. I actually use a few of them. And no display problems that I have seen. I think the display is one of the best parts of the device.
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I got mine this past Friday...
Hope this helps anyone considering the V30
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Awesome overview :good: Although I already ordered v30 (black, 64gb) from South Korea, it was still nice to read, especially regarding the screen/size. I am not a fan of 18:9 in general since native support is still behind (cropped,zoomed videos), but I like what LG does - basically putting 18:9 screen in a more like 16:9 frame.. this makes it look much better than sausage-style s8/s8+/note8.
Here’s my V30+ first impressions. Will do a deep dive on the camera and audio soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/
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Here’s my V30+ first impressions. Will do a deep dive on the camera and audio soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/
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Interesting review. Where did you get your B&O branded V30+ in UK? I thought they only had the V30? Did you get it from Italy or elsewhere?
I watched your full YouTube review and I agree people are selling the camera on this phone short. Interesting that all your friends chose the LG V30+ pictures over the Pixel 2 XL pictures. That's one reason I'm not really going to mess with the Pixel camera port.
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Interesting review. Where did you get your B&O branded V30+ in UK? I thought they only had the V30? Did you get it from Italy or elsewhere?
I watched your full YouTube review and I agree people are selling the camera on this phone short. Interesting that all your friends chose the LG V30+ pictures over the Pixel 2 XL pictures. That's one reason I'm not really going to mess with the Pixel camera port.
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Thanks. You’re right. UK only gets standard V30. Wondamobile supplied the V30+. The Pixel 2 will take better pics , but like everything it depends on the scene. I was out this morning with my Canon & V30+ and will get a post up next week with the results.
Ok. Audio review now done on the LG V30 covering speaker, Bluetooth, wired and type c. Over a dozen headphones used too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/1...-wired-over-12-different-headphones-compared/
I'm on my second Sprint lg v30 plus. Had to exchange the first one due to digitizer issues. On one side of the screen. It only responded to taps. My luck I guess.. Overall I like the device. It's light, fast and has a nice design. The camera sucks tho compared to my s8+ especially in low light. Not a bad camera but no where near the pixel 2 or Samsung phones. Was going to get the note 8 but I doubt that will ever get twrp. Hopefully this device gets root and twrp
Ok full review is finished now. Includes a camera showcase and 32 reasons why it's the best phone in the world, with the 32nd reason the best one.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/28/lg-v30-review-camera-showcase-this-is-the-best-phone-in-2018/
Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.
It rocks. Get it.
i love my phone. im coming from the OG pixel
all the negative reviewers are just dumb imho
I highly recommend it for fun on XDA! But it's your decision...
I love the phone too. Only grip is the fingerprint reader. Finger needs to be dry & clean. Otherwise it won't work well.
Go for it. I upgraded to P2XL from Nexus 6
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Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
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I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.
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I have had mine for nearly two weeks and it is absolutely stunning. Yeah I have a bit of the blue shift (to be expected on most OLED displays) that I don't mind at all, haven't seen much burn-in at all but have moved over to immersive mode via ADB until they release some additional screen fixes/improvements to try and help with it, haven't seen any black smearing whatsoever, etc. In regards to the bland colors, Google announced saturation mode that I imagine will come with the December release? This will be x amount more than the current vibrant mode or whatever it is, I believe it is +10%+, not certain on how much more saturation mode will be, if you dig more vibrant colors and all. I actually prefer, the more true-looking, duller colors but do have vibrant mode turned on (not much of noticeable difference), will play around with "saturation mode" once available but will likely stick with the duller look, saturation mode may be good for video viewing/editing and watching movies/videos.
Like the first poster said, the phone is great, does not get warm, incredibly fast and feels buttery smooth, the battery life is phenomenal, 2 years of warranty and 3 years of OS updates. Could not be happier. I almost got 50 hours out of my phone the other day, probably would have but needed to head out so wanted to throw it on charger, ended up charging it at 7% and about 48 hours off charger, granted I barely had screen on (4 hours) as it was a busy weekend where I didn't need my phone much but all in all very impressed as I have quite possibly every little battery sucker turned on on the phone. I did do some GPSing, lots of music, texting, some snapchatting, lots of Twitter feeds loading, etc. but I'd say mostly light to moderate use, impressed nonetheless.
In the end, it is your choice but I could not be happier with my purchase and would do it all over again, had I known about screen issues upfront.
EDIT: I take back the saturation mode coming in December release.....it is here and available in the November release. I will post screens to a different thread and can provide a link to it later but just thought I'd let you all know.
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Yes
Disregarding screen issues that don't even bother me personally. The colors I know will be fixed either by Google or of not with root and custom kernele we will be able to fix that. The phone is amazing. If you do paranoid about the screen stop at a Verizon location and look at it even if you don't have verizon, but I don't recommend buying in through Verizon! :highfive:
I've had mine almost 2 weeks and really haven't found any reason to not love it.
I did a comparison of the screen / blue tint HERE if you want to see a bunch of side by side comparisons.
But honestly, like I've told everyone who's asked: get one, keep it a week, use it play with it, run it through your daily use, and then make the call to keep it or return it.
Nearly every aspect of liking a device is subjective to each person's individual likes and tastes.
I'd hate to see you cheat yourself out of a great device because someone else said it sucked, or had this flaw.
Get it. If you hate it, or just can't get over the blue tint, return it and move on
No one knows better than YOU what you'll like.
If you have to ask, then the answer is NO!
The device is only for self-minded individuals.
If you like a good screen then no
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?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.
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?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.
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False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par
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False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par
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Did it? It didn't provide the dimming of the home back and recent buttons to help prevent burn-in? It didn't update brightness configs? It wasn't just colors...
And yes not all batches have the burn-in or even the severe blue tinting issues. I have no signs of burn-in and compared my phone to another P2XL and my blue tinting is hardly visible when my buddies is easily noticed. He does not have any noticeable burn-in either.
I understand that a lot of it is hardware related but there can be improvements on software side to help make the screen last as long as possible as we all know OLEDs decay over time regardless. Is it sub par, it very well may be, but to the average user I dont know if they will notice it being sub par versus superb. I honestly have zero gripes with screen, it is highly objective, but so is the term "good screen".
And, as I mentioned in my post, in the end it will be up to the end user to decide if the screen is bad or not.
I love my Pixel 2 XL. It's the best phone I've ever used and that's with five years of selling phones.
The screen isn't as good as Samsungs. I wish that it was, especially considering the price tag. But the screen is not bad but any means. The blue tint is a design choice. It doesn't bother me. I would like a wider color gamut than just the RGB colorspace and the new "saturated" option just seems to make everything more saturated as opposed to just enabling super saturated colors to be displayed. I find that very disappointing. But that is fixable...
I could go on and nitpick the rest of the phone, but truly the reason to buy this phone above all others is the software. It's buttery smooth. It makes the other companies software look bit silly.
I would recommend the phone. It was otherwise perfect for me if not the screen, and the screen is not that bad especially after the OS update yesterday. I don't see any graininess. I like the natural color more (and now you can change to saturated mode), there is very slight screen burn in or image retention (which I have to look for it by downloading a screen test app and adjust the screen brightness and environment lighting to be able to see, normally I just can't see it). The worst about the screen for me is the blue tint. It was very noticeable when I first switch on the phone, perhaps I specifically look for it after reading all the comments everywhere. After using it for a week, it becomes less and less noticeable. And now in the saturated mode, the blue tint becomes the normal color I am used to, while the normal color when viewed straight on becomes a vibrant and saturated one that everyone else wants.
However, I agree with others that you can go to a verizon store and have a look yourself. And buy and try for a week then decide whether you want to return it.
If google had gone with a samsung panel this would have been the best phone every
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And more RAM, and a headphone jack... I would agree absolutely.
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i think it would be nice if we have all spotted bugs in one place...if you spot some bugs write about it here...
mine as follows...
1. sometimes screen won't lit up when someone is calling, or when call is ended screen is still dark and you can't touch screen to end call or whatever...you have to press power button...auto brightness is slow to went up as well if i am outside and someone is calling me while sun is bright and drop directly on the screen....
2. wifi is working wonky...many times a day i have exclamation mark near wifi sign and no internet over wifi...signal strength is perfect but internet is lost over wifi...
A70's display turns dark pixels off instead of dimming them, as if they were completely black. Which leads to difficulty and inability to see dark things properly+distortion of the displayed thing because a lot of pixels are turned off.
http://imgur.com/a/w9tLNAJ
I know it's not a bug, but it is still a pain, "raising the volume above a certain level..." warning. Even when I'm playing thru a bluetooth speaker.
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A70's display turns dark pixels off instead of dimming them, as if they were completely black. Which leads to difficulty and inability to see dark things properly+distortion of the displayed thing because a lot of pixels are turned off.
http://imgur.com/a/w9tLNAJ
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This is a lock screen bug introduced somewhere around the time AF5 was released. It doesn't apply to anything but the lockscreen.
i have problems with auto rotate and answering calls...if phone is in landscape mode and i bring it up to answer call screen is rotating in portrait mode and froze?? whole screen moved to the right so i can see only green phone icon but can't answer call because screen becomes unresponsive? i have some inconvenient situations with some very important calls where people thinks how i don't want to answer calls...
try it for yourself, take phone in landscape mode and call yourself from some other phone and see what happens...
I wasn't able to replicate that bug. During the incoming call, screen returned to portrait mode but I was able to answer or decline the call.
Device: SM-A705FN/DS with build number A705FNXXU3ASG6.
mine stuck many times since i have the phone...it looks weird, i can see half the screen with green icon as the only visible icon but screen becomes unresponsive...also, phone didn't react to side buttons...
Missed call notification is not themed.
Any solution for this ?
Wifi completely drops out like every 30 minutes. Considering returning this phone because it's so bad.
Almost all of the above problems I have too. And + another I notice the screen becomes on and unlocked too in my pocket, until I disabled double click activate screen.. And fingerprint is worst quality as well as I used to in Mi 9.
always on display bug and many bugs more
samsung phones are very bad quality in terms of software. many many bugs.
many illogical behaviors, samsung ui is worst, samsung bixby virtual assistant is worst.
phones are full of bloatware.
even the most basic functions are full of bugs.
1- i store my contacts in google account, in google contacts. i have about 2 thousand contacts, but 1800 of them are hidden. under "my contacts" there are about 200 contacts. before i used iphone, it syncs with only the "my contacts" group, it does not sync the hidden contacts.
2- i bought a samsung a70 recently, added my google account. hoping that everything will work fine. because many years passed and samsung must have had a better experience with google services.
however under contacts i see all my 2000 contacts, hidden contacts, phone contacts and sim contacts.
and there is no way to filter them out.
3- always on display has problems. it just does not work.
4- underscreen fingerprint reader is a horror. it does not read frequently.
they made a very bright green animation to read the fingerprints. when you are in a dim environment or at night, it is like a green laser light very very bright. its just so annoying very bright green laser light.
when i watched the earlier versions of underscreen fingerprint reader, it had a soft ripple animation.
but after many complaints that the fingerprint is not reading accurately, they thought that, lighting the finger with bright green color helps to read fingerprint.
as a conclusion dont bother the samsung phones, they are very very bad quality in terms of software.
full of bugs and bloatware.
even an 4 year old iphone se, with IOS 13.1 is much much superior to samsungs latest phones...
The fingerprint sensor has massively improved with recent firmware. I don't have any issue with its speed now, so check if there's an update available for your device.
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The fingerprint sensor has massively improved with recent firmware. I don't have any issue with its speed now, so check if there's an update available for your device.
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do you really think that i did not check the updates?
all firmware, playstore and samsung store updates are installed.
the samsung phones are just a mess. full of bugs and bloatware. without any support.
compared to the quality of hardware, software support and services with iphones, samsungs should have been sold 1/10 th price of an according iphone.
i will take some videos of all the bugs i find and put on youtube.
on screen fingerprint reader is a disaster.
at night, or on dimmed screen, why the screen should pop up the most vivid laser like green in order to read a fingerprint, which is a 10 year old technology.
the screen is so bright green that, all the room is green one of a sudden. it hurts my eyes.
and there is no way to change it.
my ten year old first gen iphone 5s can read fingerprints ten times accurate and faster and 1000 times quiter than the samsung a70.
"do you really think that i did not check the updates?
all firmware, playstore and samsung store updates are installed."
Then you've not had the update, because it IS that much better.
I'm not going to address the iPhone comparisons, except to say we dont share the same views.
As for the green light on the FPR, yes it is to read the finger prints better. That isn't a Samsung problem, it's an inherant problem with optical readers. They aren't too hot in direct sunlight either. But then what else would you expect from new first gen in screen optical readers? You know what, though? You dont have to use the fpr at night, you can still punch your pin code in instead....
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"do you really think that i did not check the updates?
all firmware, playstore and samsung store updates are installed."
Then you've not had the update, because it IS that much better.
I'm not going to address the iPhone comparisons, except to say we dont share the same views. As for the green light on the FPR, yes it is to read the finger prints better. You know you dont have to use the fpr at night, you can still punch your pin code in instead....
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why i have to see the bright laser green in order to read just a fingerprint?
why i have to punch in pincode if i already paid for a fingerprint reader?
dont get me wrong, my only point is to make people understand that samsungs products are very low quality. in design and features.
even it can not correctly sync with google contacts.
just a disaster software.
i mean how many years ago was google contacts was published??? maybe 12 years ago???
and still the samsung ui can not sync correctly with google contacts...
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why i have to see the bright laser green in order to read just a fingerprint?
why i have to punch in pincode if i already paid for a fingerprint reader?
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Because its an optical reader and just like us humans it doesn't see very well in the dark. That is not a Samsung issue, its a draw back of optical technology. Look at the one plus 6Ts optical sensor, they are the same. If you want an fpr that works in the dark you should have paid more and bought a phone with an ultrasonic sensor. Spend budget money and you'll get a budget phone. You need to understand that budget phones have to cut corners somewhere.
dont get me wrong, my only point is to make people understand that samsungs products are very low quality. in design and features.
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Completely disagree.
even it can not correctly sync with google contacts.
just a disaster software.
i mean how many years ago was google contacts was published??? maybe 12 years ago???
and still the samsung ui can not sync correctly with google contacts...
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Neither do pixel phones. Again, not a Samsung issue, its a Google sync issue. I'm guessing iPhone handle it differently.
As for one UI being the worst, it's the only android UI designed for tall displays. It's easily the best.
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Because its an optical reader and just like us humans it doesn't see very well in the dark. That is not a Samsung issue, its a draw back of optical technology. Look at the one plus 6Ts optical sensor, they are the same. If you want an fpr that works in the dark you should have paid more and bought a phone with an ultrasonic sensor. Spend budget money and you'll get a budget phone. You need to understand that budget phones have to cut corners somewhere.
Completely disagree.
Neither do pixel phones. Again, not a Samsung issue, its a Google sync issue. I'm guessing iPhone handle it differently.
As for one UI being the worst, it's the only android UI designed for tall displays. It's easily the best.
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i dont have a pixel phone . i dont have any clue with google contacts problem in pixel phones.
anyways i really regret that i bought the A70
very low quality, in terms of hardware, software, and support
full of bugs
full of bloatware
i am a comp geek and engineer.
but i dont want to waste my time searching for tweaks and solutions for nonsense problems and illogical behaviours of the phone.
samsung is just good at one thing
marketing lies .
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i dont have a pixel phone . i dont have any clue with google contacts problem in pixel phones.
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The point was, google's own phones sync contacts in the same way. ALL android phones do. don't blame Samsung for that.
anyways i really regret that i bought the A70
very low quality, in terms of hardware, software, and support
full of bugs
full of bloatware
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No lol, it isn't. I don't know why you are having issues with the AOD but you are the first person I've seen to have such issues.
i am a comp geek and engineer.
but i dont want to waste my time searching for tweaks and solutions for nonsense problems and illogical behaviours of the phone.
samsung is just good at one thing
marketing lies .
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Should have bought an iPhone, but you didn't - you bought a budget android phone instead. Jeez.
a70 always on display bugs
Always On Display feature, Display Mode -> Tap to show is not working correctly. it has a bug on Samsung A70.
when tapped on screen, it should have showed the clock for 10 seconds. I tried on A30, it is working as expected.
but on A70 instead it shows the clock 2 seconds, turns the screen off, and at the end of the 10th second, just blinks the clock for the last time.
such a basic bug, i really wonder, are there any test engineers working at Samsung??? such a fake company.
and this bug was there from the start,
and is continued with the September 1 update also...
A70 can not detect touches at the very edges
another problem/poor quality of the A70,
A70 can not detect finger touches at the very edge of the screen.
you can test yourself by the program PhDoctor. this program has a "Touch" section, which enables to test the touch screen quality.
A70 can only detect touches, almost 2mm inside the edges of the screen.
but for example samsung A30 can detect touches until the very edge of the screen, almost 0 mm.
iphones can also detect touches until the very edge of the screen...
samsung ?
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 8, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 8 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My review of an OP8.
OK - here's my 4 day review of my OnePlus 8. Just FYI, I had (and still have) a OnePlus 5, whic I will probably give to my Father.
Day 1. The box arrives. I ordered one of the PopUp boxes which has in it two extra backs (green and black) as well as a transparent one. It also comes with the OpenPLus Z headphones. It's a large box and came in an even larger cardboard box with padding.
I unboxed it and checked - it had 51% charge, so I deemed it OK to start installing. It connected to my network and immediately did an O/S upgrade. All the normal Android stuff then proceeded and I was up and running.
I used InePlus switch to get all my apps and data across from the old OP5. The only thing it missed was all my WhasApp history - but that may be because I installed it first.
Day 2. I'd fully charged it during the day and I left it unplugged overnight. It lost 5%. Considering it's a new device, I thought that was OK. So, out for a walk to check the GPS (my OP5 would not work properly) and see how the camera was. GPS still suffered and I was considering sending it back. See Day 3. Camera is lovely. Just having OIS is a vast improvement and the quality is well acceptable for a phone (I'm a camera nut and have some quite good ones). I'll play more later. I ordered a 5G sim.
Played with the OP Z headphones. They are nice but a bit bassy. So, as I use VLC and that has an equaliser, I turned the bass down a bit - and that made all the difference.
Day 3. Decided that OnePlus can't have screwed up GPS that badly. So investigated. I found that GPS was set to 'advanced' which meant it pulled in location information from phone masts and wifi. Not sure how that makes it advanced, so I disabled it. Went out for another walk with my tracking app - no issues. Humm. I wonder if my OP5 would have done that?
Played with panorama mode. It's interesting, but I'm not sure I'll use it much as it curves everything around the horizon which is not what I expected. Tried out the slo-mo mode. Yes, I can see some uses for that.
Played around with the screen. Decided I don't like curved screens that much as the edges (where it tails away) are hard to press and that's where odd things are that you need to press. But I guess I'll get used to it. Tried my Kindle app. It went over the camera. OK - set it so the screen doesn't include the camera, but it would be nice if that could be done pn an app by app basis rather than all or nothing. OnePlus decided I needed yet another O/S upgrade, so I let it do that.
Day 4 - Out for another walk, this time with a couple of Garmin devices. GPS is still OK - a bit optimistic (it gave me 2.6 miles where Garmin gave me 2.5) but that may be the app. Had my OP Z headphones on - very comfy. Played more with the camera. The macro is really good. 2x is OK, more than that, I won't bother.
Tried my Readly app (magazine reading) whic doesn't really suit the phones aspect ratio. Oh yes, tried making phone calls. Call quality is superb.
I've ordered a flip case. Should be here by the end of May (has to come from China).
Overall? If I'd know what I know now, I'd probably have ordered a 7T but only because it has a flat screen, and I'd lose out on the 5G (which we have in my area). The PopUP version gave me £100 worth of freebies which was nice.
Comments and questions welcomed.
Alan
alan sh said:
OK - here's my 4 day review of my OnePlus 8. Just FYI, I had (and still have) a OnePlus 5, whic I will probably give to my Father.
Day 1. The box arrives. I ordered one of the PopUp boxes which has in it two extra backs (green and black) as well as a transparent one. It also comes with the OpenPLus Z headphones. It's a large box and came in an even larger cardboard box with padding.
I unboxed it and checked - it had 51% charge, so I deemed it OK to start installing. It connected to my network and immediately did an O/S upgrade. All the normal Android stuff then proceeded and I was up and running.
I used InePlus switch to get all my apps and data across from the old OP5. The only thing it missed was all my WhasApp history - but that may be because I installed it first.
Day 2. I'd fully charged it during the day and I left it unplugged overnight. It lost 5%. Considering it's a new device, I thought that was OK. So, out for a walk to check the GPS (my OP5 would not work properly) and see how the camera was. GPS still suffered and I was considering sending it back. See Day 3. Camera is lovely. Just having OIS is a vast improvement and the quality is well acceptable for a phone (I'm a camera nut and have some quite good ones). I'll play more later. I ordered a 5G sim.
Played with the OP Z headphones. They are nice but a bit bassy. So, as I use VLC and that has an equaliser, I turned the bass down a bit - and that made all the difference.
Day 3. Decided that OnePlus can't have screwed up GPS that badly. So investigated. I found that GPS was set to 'advanced' which meant it pulled in location information from phone masts and wifi. Not sure how that makes it advanced, so I disabled it. Went out for another walk with my tracking app - no issues. Humm. I wonder if my OP5 would have done that?
Played with panorama mode. It's interesting, but I'm not sure I'll use it much as it curves everything around the horizon which is not what I expected. Tried out the slo-mo mode. Yes, I can see some uses for that.
Played around with the screen. Decided I don't like curved screens that much as the edges (where it tails away) are hard to press and that's where odd things are that you need to press. But I guess I'll get used to it. Tried my Kindle app. It went over the camera. OK - set it so the screen doesn't include the camera, but it would be nice if that could be done pn an app by app basis rather than all or nothing. OnePlus decided I needed yet another O/S upgrade, so I let it do that.
Day 4 - Out for another walk, this time with a couple of Garmin devices. GPS is still OK - a bit optimistic (it gave me 2.6 miles where Garmin gave me 2.5) but that may be the app. Had my OP Z headphones on - very comfy. Played more with the camera. The macro is really good. 2x is OK, more than that, I won't bother.
Tried my Readly app (magazine reading) whic doesn't really suit the phones aspect ratio. Oh yes, tried making phone calls. Call quality is superb.
I've ordered a flip case. Should be here by the end of May (has to come from China).
Overall? If I'd know what I know now, I'd probably have ordered a 7T but only because it has a flat screen, and I'd lose out on the 5G (which we have in my area). The PopUP version gave me £100 worth of freebies which was nice.
Comments and questions welcomed.
Alan
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How is the overall size and weight of the device compared to the OnePlus 5?
KingUsman said:
How is the overall size and weight of the device compared to the OnePlus 5?
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It's the same width and a bit taller.
Alan
alan sh said:
OK - here's my 4 day review of my OnePlus 8. Just FYI, I had (and still have) a OnePlus 5, whic I will probably give to my Father.
Day 1. The box arrives. I ordered one of the PopUp boxes which has in it two extra backs (green and black) as well as a transparent one. It also comes with the OpenPLus Z headphones. It's a large box and came in an even larger cardboard box with padding.
I unboxed it and checked - it had 51% charge, so I deemed it OK to start installing. It connected to my network and immediately did an O/S upgrade. All the normal Android stuff then proceeded and I was up and running.
I used InePlus switch to get all my apps and data across from the old OP5. The only thing it missed was all my WhasApp history - but that may be because I installed it first.
Day 2. I'd fully charged it during the day and I left it unplugged overnight. It lost 5%. Considering it's a new device, I thought that was OK. So, out for a walk to check the GPS (my OP5 would not work properly) and see how the camera was. GPS still suffered and I was considering sending it back. See Day 3. Camera is lovely. Just having OIS is a vast improvement and the quality is well acceptable for a phone (I'm a camera nut and have some quite good ones). I'll play more later. I ordered a 5G sim.
Played with the OP Z headphones. They are nice but a bit bassy. So, as I use VLC and that has an equaliser, I turned the bass down a bit - and that made all the difference.
Day 3. Decided that OnePlus can't have screwed up GPS that badly. So investigated. I found that GPS was set to 'advanced' which meant it pulled in location information from phone masts and wifi. Not sure how that makes it advanced, so I disabled it. Went out for another walk with my tracking app - no issues. Humm. I wonder if my OP5 would have done that?
Played with panorama mode. It's interesting, but I'm not sure I'll use it much as it curves everything around the horizon which is not what I expected. Tried out the slo-mo mode. Yes, I can see some uses for that.
Played around with the screen. Decided I don't like curved screens that much as the edges (where it tails away) are hard to press and that's where odd things are that you need to press. But I guess I'll get used to it. Tried my Kindle app. It went over the camera. OK - set it so the screen doesn't include the camera, but it would be nice if that could be done pn an app by app basis rather than all or nothing. OnePlus decided I needed yet another O/S upgrade, so I let it do that.
Day 4 - Out for another walk, this time with a couple of Garmin devices. GPS is still OK - a bit optimistic (it gave me 2.6 miles where Garmin gave me 2.5) but that may be the app. Had my OP Z headphones on - very comfy. Played more with the camera. The macro is really good. 2x is OK, more than that, I won't bother.
Tried my Readly app (magazine reading) whic doesn't really suit the phones aspect ratio. Oh yes, tried making phone calls. Call quality is superb.
I've ordered a flip case. Should be here by the end of May (has to come from China).
Overall? If I'd know what I know now, I'd probably have ordered a 7T but only because it has a flat screen, and I'd lose out on the 5G (which we have in my area). The PopUP version gave me £100 worth of freebies which was nice.
Comments and questions welcomed.
Alan
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The curved edges is the only thing putting me off from buying this phone. Would have already ordered one otherwise. Almost bit the bullet and ordered one anyways, thinking maybe I wont hate the curved edges that much, but since you've already done that for us I'd rather just get your impression first. I'm considering getting the OP7T, Realme X2 Pro, Oppo Ace2 or Poco F2 Pro at this point, do you think you would have liked one of these flat display phones more?
I've got used to the curved edge and don't really notice it any more. Is it better than at 7T? I can't really say, but considering I use my headphones when out and they are really comfy, I'm glad I got the boxed set on day 1.
At the moment, the only irritating thing is the display - the adaptive stuff doesn't really work (too granular) but I have to use it in bright sunlight as it seems to be brighter with it on. But even that is very minor. Battery life is very good. With all my apps loaded and just display off, it loses less that 0.4% each hour. (in 12 hours of not using it, it lost 4%). That's with Wifi and bluetooth turned on and a poor 4G signal.
It's had 3 or 4 O/S upgrades since I bought it. Which is good as it means OnePlus are on the ball. I'm just waiting for Wifi Calling to be enabled in the UK (OnePlus - are you listening here?).
Alan
Coming from an OP6, I'm slightly finding it hard to love. Or love as much.
I had the OP5, went to OP6 and I loved the changes.
Now going from the 6 to the 8, not sure I made the right choice!!
Let me explain..
1. The 6 was far easier to hold, the 8 just feels a bit cumbersome compared.
2. The fingerprint sensor on the 6 was amazingly good. On the 8, it's not as accurate, on the wrong side, and at night it's like the flash light coming on. Should have kept it at the back. But I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to pretend it got rid of it too.
3. The curved screen is just annoying, as selecting anything on the curved part is bound to fail on the first try.
4. No head phone socket? Just why? Again I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to copy.
5. The new sandstone cover isn't as thin, looks a bit budget and rather chunky like the old bumper covers. Without the cover is very slippery and hard to hold.
6. No more notification LED on the 8, Oneplus phones don't have an always on display, so the LED light was a nice feature. Now you get neither.
I'll keep using it, hopefully will get used to it more..
shock-UK said:
Coming from an OP6, I'm slightly finding it hard to love. Or love as much.
I had the OP5, went to OP6 and I loved the changes.
Now going from the 6 to the 8, not sure I made the right choice!!
Let me explain..
1. The 6 was far easier to hold, the 8 just feels a bit cumbersome compared.
2. The fingerprint sensor on the 6 was amazingly good. On the 8, it's not as accurate, on the wrong side, and at night it's like the flash light coming on. Should have kept it at the back. But I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to pretend it got rid of it too.
3. The curved screen is just annoying, as selecting anything on the curved part is bound to fail on the first try.
4. No head phone socket? Just why? Again I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to copy.
5. The new sandstone cover isn't as thin, looks a bit budget and rather chunky like the old bumper covers. Without the cover is very slippery and hard to hold.
6. No more notification LED on the 8, Oneplus phones don't have an always on display, so the LED light was a nice feature. Now you get neither.
I'll keep using it, hopefully will get used to it more..
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That's something I've always wondered.. why use a screen side fingerprint scanner. Backside ones are easier to use, faster and more accurate.
I don't have any issues with the fingerprint reader where it is. I came from a OP5 so I guess I'm just used to it being there.
Alan
shock-UK said:
6. No more notification LED on the 8, Oneplus phones don't have an always on display, so the LED light was a nice feature. Now you get neither.
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There are some really good Apps available to use the pixels around the camera for notifications. Give that a try.
What apps can do that?
mrozu615 said:
What apps can do that?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xander.android.notifybuddy
I am using this app. Purchased the Pro version. Really useful.
firoz3321 said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xander.android.notifybuddy
I am using this app. Purchased the Pro version. Really useful.
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Does it work with the screen off?
BeardKing said:
Does it work with the screen off?
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Yes.
Can add LED simulation by default, in pro more flexibility to choose icons of apps as notification and size can be changed. I ended up using LED option though i purchased premium.
It definitely serves the purpose as a notification LED. no issues so far. Battery usage is also less.
firoz3321 said:
Yes.
Can add LED simulation by default, in pro more flexibility to choose icons of apps as notification and size can be changed. I ended up using LED option though i purchased premium.
It definitely serves the purpose as a notification LED. no issues so far. Battery usage is also less.
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Awesome! Thank you.
alan sh said:
I've got used to the curved edge and don't really notice it any more. Is it better than at 7T? I can't really say, but considering I use my headphones when out and they are really comfy, I'm glad I got the boxed set on day 1.
Alan
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Hey,
I have a 7T and I'm considering the 8 for the 5G, the 12 GB of RAM, the great battery life, and the slightly lighter weight, but the curved edge can be turn-off, and of course the 8 Pro is heavier and more expensive.
What are your thoughts on the 8 after almost a year? Are you rocking a case? Would you make that switch from a 7T if you had it?
No, I wouldn't switch. I don't think it's enough of a leap. To be honest, my OP5 was nice enough apart from the camera and the GPS, both of which were substandard. I think the 7T is plenty good enough. I have only ever had a 5G signal once since I got it and 4G seems to be fine.
Alan