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[Q] 3 months in... starting to lag

well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?

polarbearmc said:
well it's been my experience with every android phone and every rom i ever used for any of those phones, that after a month or so from a clean install, things start to lag, freeze, etc. my galaxy s3 has made it about 3 months, but it's starting to get there.
i don't think i'm asking too much of it. i have 4 homescreen widgets. i use nova as a replacement launcher. i have a lot of apps installed (including the preinstalled stuff, right around 150), but most of them are games, and i tend to remove games/apps that come with intrusive ads and unwanted notifications because i want to keep this thing running great.
anyone have any suggestions that don't involve rooting (i really didn't want to have to root this phone, i thought it would be powerful enough to run good without custom roms, unlike say my old g1/g2/mytouch4gslide). i notice one of the biggest issues is chrome. it freezes a lot. i also get quite a few freezes while pulling down the notification shade.
also i'd consider rooting i suppose but only if there's a rom out there with absolutely zero known issues. don't get me wrong, i understand that the s3 is crazy powerful and my old phones weren't, and i shouldn't judge the rom scene based on the performance i got out of experimental roms on a g2 haha, but i never once rooted, installed a rom and then a month later said "yep this is still running great" on any of my old phones. if anyone has suggestions on a rom where EVERYTHING works as expected and nothing has problems, i'd consider it maybe. but at least for now i'd rather figure out a way to get it running better without rooting...
any ideas?
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Besides the obligatory answers "download and try a few out yourself" and "your mileage may vary," when I first rooted this phone I had very good luck (speed, battery life, etc.) with the Jedi Invasion ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013568
Besides that, I've heard that the Wicked ROM is great as well as CM10 (10.1 is stable but has a few issues that would dissuade most who are not willing to be on the cutting edge).

yea you know since i posted the thread i've been reading up on the newest roms and Wicked looks pretty damn perfect. if i do decide to root i'm gonna go with that but i'd still love to get this thing working at least for the next few months, with less issues WITHOUT rooting for now... but thanks for the response.

[Q] New to the Phone, What should I do?

Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.

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Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.
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Welcome to the community!
Glad you chose the OG, It's an awesome phone, with a great dev community

Androidawg said:
Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.
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As far as the camera, download the Google Play Edition Camera apk. Way better. As far as launchers, go with either nova launcher or Apex launcher with a JB Skin. I use it over holo launcher because I can hide apps in the app drawer and make the search bar persistent. I also use Holo Locker as my lock screen.
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This is an awesome phone with great devs. Just make sure you unlock the bootloader before debloating
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This device is one of the best you can get, and at the same time, can be one of the biggest pains you can buy as well. But, with some patience, balls, and a little insight, you can be running anything you want. If your interests are more towards stock, Lifeless and Vectus are both very good ROMs with plenty of features. If you prefer custom ROMs with lots of extras and choices, I personally would recommend one of the ROMs I work on, Beanstalk and JellyBeer. There are also AOKP, CM10, CM10 w/ Linaro, Rootbox, and others that will give you pretty much any kind of experience you want. Just make sure you read the rooting and unlocking thread very carefully and follow the instructions to the letter to avoid any hiccups. Also worth mentioning is the fact that all ROMs do have quirks and imperfections to them(I believe Lifeless is as close to complete stability as you can get, but it also is as close to stock as any of the others). All of these works are constantly being updated with fixes and new features, but our device can be finicky, so if you require total stability, you may just want to stay with stock. If you need any help, you can PM me, and if you want to learn to build on your own, take a look at Project Rookie II. Be cool

Welcome. I myself had to make a decision between this and the other 2 phones. I'm glad in a way I went with this 1. Its definitely on par with the other "big names" and its just as good spec wise. Only problem i have is the camera when its zoomed. I'm going to try the google play edition like danny stated. As far as rom goes, I believe Lifeless has pretty much the most stable rom going. Its pretty much stock but without bloat. Battery has been good to me, only app that I had problems with was Pro Player, so I got GMMP and its been better on the battery. Great phone overall but kit didn't get the recognition it deserved.
I dont really know LG's track record on phones, but I hope they dont EOL it before KLP. I have a feeling they will because OG2 and OG Pro are out, but then again like I said I dont know how LG works.

I am still completely stock, just added a new launcher, locker, and the Play Camera. I have a completely working photosphere (awesome, something I really missed from my Gal Nex). I have noticed that when taking macro shots, the Play Camera focuses better. But I was able to get some decent macro shots on the stock camera by getting the focus set from farther back and zooming in. I am still tinkering with white balance and ISO settings. But the flash seems to be bright as the sun and I can't do much with it, my pics keep getting washed out with the flash. But the performance, holy crap this thing is fun to use. Everything just pops.

[XS] Battery life in stock vs. custom roms (nAOSPROM, Chroma)

Greetings,
so I have been running nAOSPROM (most recently b24) for about two months now. And I reluctantly switched back to the latest stock firmware. Reason being that, while battery life with screen off was amazing with the LP roms, it was horrible when I was actually using the phone for surfing or light app usage (no games). I swear I could watch the battery go down in steps of 2 and 3 percent as soon as the screen was on. With stock firmware I feel that the phone actually allows being used.
And now I'm in a bit of a pickle. Because having seen what my beloved XS can do on Lollipop, I really want to keep that experience. On the other hand it's no good to me if I have to carry around a backup battery charger just out of fear the battery will break down in the middle of the day if I use the device too much. Also I have seen that the XS can do everything I expect from my phone, I really want to avoid buying a new phone just for battery life.
I am now asking for your experience that is certainly further reaching than mine: Is this something that can or will get better? I.e., is it natural due to the increased complexity of Lollipop, or is it something that can be remedied by optimized builds, optimized CPU governors or similar? Or even has already gotten better with Chroma (which claims battery optimization but I haven't gotten around to trying yet)?
Thank you for any insight, I appreciate it.

Alright, to answer to myself, maybe it will help others in the same situation:
Going back to the stock ROM was not an option anymore. It installed fine alright, but obviously even light use of contemporary apps (Google Maps, Facebook) brings it to a screeching halt. I've had multiple occasions when I would exit an app, and the stock launcher would groaningly launch all over again, bringing up widgets one by one. On a completely fresh factory install. So, no, besides JB being horribly outdated if you had LP in hands, it is just not viable anymore.
Now I'm running Chroma and I must say, as impressed as I was with nAOSPROM, I like Chroma more. If you go by perception alone, nAOSPROM runs a little "smoother", it feels a little zippier and more fluid. However, I can't shake the feeling that it comes at a steep price, and that Chroma is much easier on the battery, especially in active app use which is backed up by my battery stats. Asides from probably a few days with screen off, I get between 4 and 6 hours of active app use out of the system, which is perfectly fine for my needs -- I didn't keep logfiles of nAOSPROM, but it seemed considerably shorter. Also, having already only flashed the Pico gapps, I feel right at home with the minimalistic installation of Chroma. So for the time being, I'll stick with that one.
The only thing I actually miss from the stock ROM is its snappy, lightweight stock camera that starts quite a lot faster than anything on an AOSP ROM. But, eh, if that's the price to pay, I'll happily accept it.
My thanks go out to the developers of both ROMs. Thank you for keeping my device alive.

What rom are you running and why :)

Hello everyone,
I have had my 10 for a while now and I have at the current time decided to stay stock. Much to my surprise stock has been a joy to use. This has overall been the best stock experience I have had on a device. I like it way more than my Moto X Pure, and note 4. Let me know down below. Thank you to everyone who participates.

Spent a few days flashing roms but ended up coming back to stock due to hassle-less OTAs lol

Stock as it has everything I need in terms of speed, battery, and theming.... I can get otas instant instead of waiting for a rom to be built off of it which is a huge plus in security.
Also, clean flashing and starting from scratch gets tiring after six years of rom flashing.
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Running stock as well just rooted and what not. Waiting for some aosp Roms to flash.
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So far I have been pretty shocked to see how satisfied users are with stock compared to previous devices. Now are some of HTCs claims a stretch at best... Absolutely. Many seem to agree that though it is not perfect it is perfect for their needs. I must give a tip of my hat to HTC after the issues HTC has had the last couple years I am glad they were able to make a solid, dependable, smooth device.

Running LeeDroid. Everything just works well with it, the support is great, the thread is really fun to read, it works with Verizon, strips out a bunch of the bloat/junk (Verizon still needs to get their crap together), and adds some nice tweaks.

Stock is basically my goal. On all my previous phones I ran roms to get what HTC is giving us. So what I used to have to go out of my way to get, is just default on the 10, it's why I bought it. I haven't rooted yet either. I'm sure I will eventually, but right now I don't have a reason to. My phone use isn't that advanced anymore. I think I out grew modding and overly customizing. I've been messing with everything since back with windows mobile. Now I'm just at the point where I have few apps I use regularly and don't care about messing with everything anymore.

What has made the most difference overall for you? What has made you choose the rom you have? What feature did that rom give that you were looking for?

This device is pretty much dead, right?

I see nothing new comming up. Most people run PN with franco and get 5h SoT barely. Every other project has stopped.
Is there hope for this device anymore regarding speed or battery improvements?

You serious?
There's Sailfish OS, OXI Rom, Dirty Unicorns, PixelROM, EX kernel, Jolla kernel, Multirom and Lineage OS to name a few. I guess everyone is just waiting for final Android O.

Lineage os made this phone great again. I was about to trash it and get a new device but then decided to give it one last hurrah and too/boot.
Not dead.
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I have rooted pretty much every Android device I have, but I think the 5x is great as is without root or custom ROM. If you're disappointed with poor SoT, you probably should find out that most other devices out there also have poor SoT, regardless of what ROM you use. The 5x is still a fine device because it has a great screen and a great camera, and it will receive guaranteed monthly security updates until late 2018. Only google devices enjoy that last privilege.
As for the poor screen on time, if it bothers you, just buy yourself a nice power bank. Those things are cheap. The other day I walked into Best Buy and found a 20000mah power bank on sale for like 30USD. This thing fully charged will recharge a smartphone fully thee or four times, which is plenty for most.

Nah mate. It's not the screen on time. But every ROM is the same to me. Hell, Ive been running stock rooted for months now. Is lineage os thst good?

Akopps said:
I have rooted pretty much every Android device I have, but I think the 5x is great as is without root or custom ROM. If you're disappointed with poor SoT, you probably should find out that most other devices out there also have poor SoT, regardless of what ROM you use. The 5x is still a fine device because it has a great screen and a great camera, and it will receive guaranteed monthly security updates until late 2018. Only google devices enjoy that last privilege.
As for the poor screen on time, if it bothers you, just buy yourself a nice power bank. Those things are cheap. The other day I walked into Best Buy and found a 20000mah power bank on sale for like 30USD. This thing fully charged will recharge a smartphone fully thee or four times, which is plenty for most.
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Speaking about SOT, I had old Xperia Z and with new battery it did not pass 1.5 hours of SOT...

A phone with Android O by Google, and you create a topic like this?
Maybe it's joke day...

We can't expect speed improvements from a device that, when compared to other devices, is slow. The Nexus 5X was never a "flagship". It doesn't have too much RAM, so it will never be good at multi tasking. The processor is OK, but was never the most powerful. The only good thing is the camera, which still is one of the best available on phones.
I know some users will say that this phone is fast and smooth... and it is, when compared to the original Nexus 5 or to some old Galaxy. But even a Oneplus 2 is faster and lags less.
I'm not too worried about custom ROMs. We have LineageOS and a few ROMs based on AOSP and LOS, Google still supports the phone and we will get Android O, but let's not forget that this phone was released almost 2 years ago... development is not going to grow now. Maybe ParanoidAndroid will bring something new, but we should not expect anything big. Only updates that will keep the phone alive.
If you want new features try DirtyUnicorns, ResurrectionRemix, AICP, Slim or LineageOS.

Sinistersky said:
Nah mate. It's not the screen on time. But every ROM is the same to me. Hell, Ive been running stock rooted for months now. Is lineage os thst good?
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You do realize that most of the features that people even rooted Android for, are now part of stock Android itself, right? I get what you're saying, but for me, stock rooted or minimally-featured ROMs are good enough for me, because they have everything I need.
And yeah, like everyone else was saying, we all have a phone that's almost two years old, with slightly above-average specs, that was overshadowed from the jump by it's big brother, the Nexus 6P. But honestly with the state of Android today and the ROM scene, I'd say that we're pretty okay. I'd say that we're great, even. It could DEFINITELY be worse, like having GSM/CDMA variants and the CDMA side barely having any support whatsoever (which would be my case because Sprint).
We're good, man. Trust me.
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