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Hey,
I have 3 iPAQ 5450's sitting here, and I could probably spare one for development if anyone would actually be interested in it. Note that I only have one working cradle at the moment (might be able to get another if serious inquiries are made).
I'm fairly annoyed with a few aspects of WM2003, as I'm used to my HTC Herald (T-Mobile Wing). Simple things like no task manager like in WM5/6 (can't remember which is on the Herald), the the tray half-way working like I think it should, etc.
Here are the specs on the unit (shamelessly copy-pasted):
Processor: Intel XScale PXA250 400 MHz (I think this is actually faster than the Herald's OMAP 300MHz?)
* ROM 48 MB - Flash
* RAM 64 MB - SDRAM
* Installed RAM 64 MB
* Supported Flash Memory Cards SD Memory Card
* Max supported RAM 64 MB
* RAM technology SDRAM
* Installed ROM (48 MB max supported) , 48 MB Flash
* Display Type 3.8 in Color TFT active matrix ( Transflective )
* Display type 3.8 in TFT active matrix
* Image 16-bit (64K colors)
* Display Resolution 240 x 320
* Input device type Touch-screen , Stylus
* Type Touch-screen , Stylus
* Security Devices
# Wireless Connectivity IrDA , Bluetooth , IEEE 802.11b, Fingerprint reader
By the way, I just tried to edit this message, and have to wait just to edit? I'm not posting a new post or thread, so why does it make me wait?? Could I get my account reviewed and whatever flag set? The account might not be used a whole lot, but I've been registered since 5/28/09!!
Hi,
- Can you dump the rom of your device like here: http://www.a701.org/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=465 ?
Regards, ansar.
I might be able to do that... Would the ROM from BootBlaster (URL wont work, "To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed." -- I've had the account over a YEAR now!!) work? I already have two of those as I tried Familiar (OPIE)
Hi,
Dump the three .raw files i.e. part00.raw, part01.raw, part02.raw (and /or part03.raw may be not needed if it is your storage card)
Then zip/rar them, upload to rapidshare and when logged in xda send me a private post with the link (in text mode).
If you already have the last hp rom upgrade file, if not download it, and upload this too.
Regards, ansar.
I'm not sure exactly where to get the utilities that are listed in the Mio thread you linked to. There were no links in the thread.
From what I understand, BootBlaster saves gzipped images of several areas: Boot, root, and [something else]. I already know how to use bootblaster, dd, and gzip. Hopefully it will have the information you need.
As far as uploading the HP WM2003 upgrade, I'm not too sure if I'm supposed to do that or not, as it is a paid upgrade? It is what is installed on all 3 devices, so I guess if someone will be getting the extra they might need it
WM5/6 needs at least 64MB ROM.
And porting device from WM2003 to WM5/6 is not an easy thing.
In past only 2 or 3 hTC phones did get custom ROM update from WM2003 to WM5/6.
I would suggest you to sell those iPAQs and buy something newer.
Doesn't really *have* to be a full upgrade to WM5/6... if there are ways to get some of the same functions over, I'd be happy. But WM5/6 would be kinda nice (though probably would be bloated).
One fo the other reasons not to just toss these units is that they are actually more powerful than some, if not most, of the cellphones being sold in the US right now. Hell, my Wing isn't *that* old... and it only has a 200MHz CPU. These iPAQs have double the CPU power. They might not have the greatest amount of memory, but if I'm right, the bootloader installed by bootblaster supports booting from a CF/SD. So the flash memory may not be an issue. (Not to mention that the filestore on the iPAQ will actually go poof if the main/backup batteries die, so sd/cf might be a better overall option).
You can't really compare 400MHz CPU made in 2002 and 200MHz CPU made in 2005.
If iPAQ CPU does have more MHz it dosen't mean it's faster.
BootBlaster is for Linux and Windows Mobile CAN'T boot from SD/CF card.
Not even to mention that iPAQ does have slow NOR-flash, instead of fast NAND-flash used in all new devices.
For point 1 & 2, that does make sense, but isn't there a standard to how MHz are measured? I guess I could see if there is a program to calculate the mips on both, though really mips isn't exactly perfect measurement either. But... the iPAQ actually runs many things I've much smoother than the Herald, which is why I assume that the iPAQ hardware may be a bit more robust. I could be wrong, as I'm a computer guy, not really handheld-savvy.
For 3, "Note that the Linux Bootloader will also boot PocketPC". Its just a bootloader. Much as GRUB will load linux and windows, the bootloader here seems to not care what it loads.
One thing I didn't know is that the bootloader couldn't boot from the SD/CF into another OS. I could swear I'd heard of someone doing so somewhere, though I can't find the page now. I figured the hald-held would have some form of BIOS, and that it perhaps could see the SD slot, similar to how a PC can boot from USB (or grub can as well).
Not sure how the NOR and NAND flash would affect it other than in read/write times. Again, this is something I'm pretty new to.
Anyhow, the point of my posting this thread was to see if anyone wanted to do some ROM work, perhaps some things could be used in WM2003 as well as WM5/6. I'm sure there are some things that could be done, and improvements made, with the machine, as it isn't 'bad' hardware. Granted, it's not a cell-phone, but more of a PDA with wireless and bluetooth capability. But it is something that can be made useful, instead of collecting dust in a closet, or perhaps an exhibit case I do have an old working Commodore 128D that is more an 'exhibit' than anything else... talk about a blast from the past!
I hate to see things set to the way-side just because there is something new and shiny out. Heck, I even re-purpose old-as-dirt PCs into useful things... I have a 500MHz BSD router that kicks the pants off any consumer router that costs $200+. I have another old 1.7GHz machine that acts as a CCTV/DVR. So it is natural for me to find useful things to do with the old iPAQs. Doesn't help that the Herald eats batteries
So, if I can get the old dog to learn some new tricks... it would be nice. I'm just trying to see if there is someone out there that knows *how* to teach the thing some new tricks.
What I want to say to you is that most likely no one will do any ROM cooking for h5450, WM2003 ROM modification was to hard for most users and never got any easy-to-use tools. Questions like yours pop up from time to time and no one has made any progress so far.
I cook ROMs for hx4700 and hx2000 series iPAQs they come from 2004 and 2005. Keeping them up-to-date with WM6.5 ROMs now was only possible because they did receive WM5 update.
ps not all old dogs can learn new tricks.
So I guess I'm kicking a dead dog? Wish there was a way to get WM5/6 on these things then... I wonder how much RAM the cellphone drivers/software use... if it is enough to get it below 48MB (tall order)... but yeah, I'll shaddup now
Duplicated post, delete me
From other side, I've heard that some ipaqs on the very beggining were sold with PPC Phone Edition OS (when you insert sim card to this "non working" slot under battery, you'll see gsm icon). If somebody has got such, and can post a rom dump (using bootblaster) to me, i'll be grateful.
Why?
I found a prototype motherboard, probably from iPaq h56xx (h5610), and it is to be identical to 54xx one, only rf module seems to be different.
Here is a thought.. Wonder if Android would run on these things...
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If you still have one to spare I would love developing a rom for it. If you can tell me what your looking for from the rom then I could work on one.
Yeah, still got 2 of these, could easily spare one. Right now the only things I've really been using the one for is a remote control for my TV. Lost my universal.
Would love to be able to get something going for it though. Something my kid could play with, perhaps a reader app. Just not sure if any exist for something as old as wm2003.
Right now the cash is tight, but once i get some to spare for shipping, I'll update ya, so you can tell me where to mail the thing.
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Is there a chance you could send one my way? I would love to work on and develope a rom for it!
Sure. Just need to get out of the financial nightmare I'm in so i can afford shipping.
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I will foot the shipping bill for you no problem. Thank you so much for this opprotunity I have never developed for this device before. Where are you shipping it from? Send me a private message with any info you need from me and ill reply with my address and any of the info. Thanks again!
Let me know
Let me know how this goes as I have a h5450 and was looking for something to do with it as it is at me mothers and been on charge for some time lol as well if you have any stable runs I will test
I thought about sharing this. All those interested to help these guys decode should download a file they have put and run it on their PC so that it helps them compute faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921013
Contribute by downloading the application and running it.
Only for Milestone
But if they can hack the Milestone bootloader, would it have any effect on the Defy Deveploment?
It will affect entire motorola android series.
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It looks like it won't affect anything - the project folds in ~4 days amidst claims of a lack of funds.
Damn bad implementation. I am still hopeful xda will take it.
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Common people, this project is alive and kicking! Join the XDA team, even if it's just for the fun of it. XDA is only at the 20th place, ranked to total work done. We can do much much better than that!
With my relatively modest laptop with Core2Duo 2,4 GHz I already crunched quite a lot in almost 24 hours. And soon the Androinc project will also support ATi graphics cards which will be a huge boost to crunching. My ATi 4570 is now crunching for the Collatz Conjencture project, helping to crack on of mathematics last unsolved mysteries, but as soon as Androinc enables gpu crunching I will switch.
Cracking the Milestone's bootloader key might very well crack the Defy's as well. Who knows, with a little bit of luck Motorola uses the same key for all their models...
Almost forgot to say this: if you're running Windows x64 then make sure you download the 64 bit version of the BOINC client. This way your pc will download 64 bit work units which are processed quite a bit faster. Check the complete list with available versions on the BOINC website.
AgentSmith said:
Common people, this project is alive and kicking! Join the XDA team, even if it's just for the fun of it. XDA is only at the 20th place, ranked to total work done. We can do much much better than that!
With my relatively modest laptop with Core2Duo 2,4 GHz I already crunched quite a lot in almost 24 hours. And soon the Androinc project will also support ATi graphics cards which will be a huge boost to crunching. My ATi 4570 is now crunching for the Collatz Conjencture project, helping to crack on of mathematics last unsolved mysteries, but as soon as Androinc enables gpu crunching I will switch.
Cracking the Milestone's bootloader key might very well crack the Defy's as well. Who knows, with a little bit of luck Motorola uses the same key for all their models...
Almost forgot to say this: if you're running Windows x64 then make sure you download the 64 bit version of the BOINC client. This way your pc will download 64 bit work units which are processed quite a bit faster. Check the complete list with available versions on the BOINC website.
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Cheers! I just downloaded the Mac version and am running it. Lets do it together guys. Download and run the program. As simple as it gets.
I joined the project too.
But how long it takes to find the key?
Could be a day, a week, a month or longer. Cracking a key takes brute force calculations and that means at some point someone's computer finds the key and that's the end of the project. No way to tell when that is going to happen but of course the more data and the longer we crunch the bigger the chance becomes to find this key.
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Almost forgot to say this: if you're running Windows x64 then make sure you download the 64 bit version of the BOINC client. This way your pc will download 64 bit work units which are processed quite a bit faster. Check the complete list with available versions on the BOINC website.
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From what I read on the AndrOINC discussion boards, the x64 version doesn't necessarily result in more work being done by x64 systems.
Or is that not true?
Also, you make mention of supporting ATI graphics cards, what about nVidia ones?
My card's CUDA-capable, so it may as well be put to good use along with my CPU...
On my system 64 bit work units get processed somewhat faster than 32 bit wu's. Strangely BOINC x64 also keeps downloading 32 bit wu's so in practice there is a difference in speed but not that spectacular.
They mentioned that CUDA is in the pipeline too but first it's ATi.
Well, I seem to be churning through the x86 work at a reasonable enough speed so I figure I'll just leave it...
Running this also. However i dont seem to be getting any credits(im not sure what they are) does this mean thaalt im not contributing?
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Common people, this project is alive and kicking! Join the XDA team, even if it's just for the fun of it. XDA is only at the 20th place, ranked to total work done. We can do much much better than that! :
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You need to join the XDA Team in order for your credits to be added to their total. I joined them today to do something in return for the tons of info I found here. Happy crunching! (F0nz0 from Tweakers)
Hi,
I am a defy user contributing with my computer.
I will be a defy user, and contributing with my computer.
I contribut http://androinc.net/show_user.php?userid=2353 but 1024 RSA key
A lot of computer is needed
xda developers at 18th place and counting.
17th place
Another Defy user on board. At least some small hope if Moto doesn't change their policy at all...
Hello, I was wondering if someone can steer me the right direction in terms of starting development.
I have no previous programming/development experience whatsoever. I am a somewhat computer nerd but never found the time to get into the developing arena.
Now that I am out of college and have A LOT of time on my hands I want to focus on this because I would absolutely love developing.
I need to know EVERYTHING there is to know about developing for android; for apps and creating roms. What books I need to buy to get everything down? What programs or tutorials? I am very serious about this, someone please help me and tell me all there is to know about accomplishing this goal and where to begin.
Thanks, much appreciated!
Since you mentioned you have no programming experience.. There's three important coding styles you need to master for android.. XML, Java and C/C++. The best way is to write some beginner programs available on the Internet.
In addition to coding, you need to become comfortable with the linux tool set. If you don't already, running a linux distribution will help you learn the environment. I suggest Ubuntu, debian, or gentoo.
I don't mean to make this sound intimidating.. but developing isn't an overnight thing.. a lot of people on these forums learn as they go but have a decent amount of experience with one of these aspects. Many of us are CS or EE/ECE students or grads..
Sam's Teach Yourself Android Development in 24 hours is the book i've been messing with for a couple weeks, very helpful. I got it as a pdf
In the Chef Central -> Android forum of this site, cyanogen has a stickied thread that you need to read.
So in was browsing the web to add to the ACHD server pool and came across some dedicated server listings. As some people know CPU ram and such are needed to compile android. I was wondering anyone is interested in helping me to secure a server that can be used for devs uses that include but not limited to compiling, building and hosting ROMs?
While I host stats servers' hosting for download and dev sharing vps I haven't thought of ordering a dedicated one for this purpose until someone brought it up to me awhile ago and I found something that might be possible.
Wouldn't help any of these devs on this forum and possibly others to help development? If several would like it. I would organize a way to get it month to month, organize scheduling and setting up what I can for hosting as much as possible as bandwidth is cheap now.
So what is everyone's ideas on this? A dedicated servers that devs just have to apply to use and then use it for whatever uses it can handle... Of course related to android and their device specifically.?
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I believe they already have this.
But is it really important? On my machine (which, is a gaming PC - 8 core 4.2ghz, 16Gb RAM), I could compile this and still work on other tasks. I'd have to imagine most developers have a custom built or a higher-end market PC.
Or am I missing something?
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rsjc741 said:
I believe they already have this.
But is it really important? On my machine (which, is a gaming PC - 8 core 4.2ghz, 16Gb RAM), I could compile this and still work on other tasks. I'd have to imagine most developers have a custom built or a higher-end market PC.
Or am I missing something?
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Several have talked to me about it. But i believe it is mainly for building and content delivery in the same package. If i thought i needed to add it to the server pool i would have done so instead of just posting about it.
Also most developers don't have a custom rig even close to that. How do i know? i interact with them and host many devs stuff and they reached out to me with interest about something like this for awhile.
A rig like that is just to costly for most to have. While i do have a rig similar. Except twice the ram. (Faster than hdd anyday) i can confidently say its not as common as one would think.
Their main reasons for interest is the gbit port for downloading all resources, then any updates faster and able to start compiling right away and then be ready to deliver right away.
My only suggestions and offerings come from a devs interest when they ask me to host something or about the feasibility ability about something for them. So what it looks like to me os that not everyone has access to compile and host right away.
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I never used Linux never knew anyone who has. What can you run on Linux game wise? Can you play any Windows games on Linux? What is the newest version of Linux? How do you buy computer parts to make a Linux computer? All I ever seen is Windows logo on parts. Whats the advantages compared to Windows? How does one get it one a computer does if come on a disk or flash someplace?
Thank you
Rbohannon89 said:
I never used Linux never knew anyone who has. What can you run on Linux game wise? Can you play any Windows games on Linux? What is the newest version of Linux? How do you buy computer parts to make a Linux computer? All I ever seen is Windows logo on parts. Whats the advantages compared to Windows? How does one get it one a computer does if come on a disk or flash someplace? Thank you
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I haven't used Linux directly in quite a long time but, the following threads may be helpful in understanding it a bit better. Don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within one of them too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459153
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723240
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3300596
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3530696
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2885245
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076138
There's others out there but, this will give you a good start...
Good Luck!
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I looked at them but that didn't answer any my question.
There is Steam on Linux. And lot of games are available on Linux. You can't play all windows games on Linux .
http://store.steampowered.com/linux
Windows is like an LTS OS if compared to Linux.
So Ubuntu 16.04 is a safe.
Some OS are updated on daily basis like Arch , Debian.
Some every 6 months like Linux Mint & Ubuntu ,
Linux runs on everything. So basically , as long as you have a computing device.
As far as custom Linux PC is concerned, checkout System76.
https://system76.com/
There are nice builds and they come with good support.
karandpr said:
There is Steam on Linux. And lot of games are available on Linux. You can't play all windows games on Linux .
http://store.steampowered.com/linux
Windows is like an LTS OS if compared to Linux.
So Ubuntu 16.04 is a safe.
Some OS are updated on daily basis like Arch , Debian.
Some every 6 months like Linux Mint & Ubuntu ,
Linux runs on everything. So basically , as long as you have a computing device.
As far as custom Linux PC is concerned, checkout System76.
https://system76.com/
There are nice builds and they come with good support.
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What is the advantages and disadvantages in having linux? Also what do most people use it for everyday personal use?
Rbohannon89 said:
What is the advantages and disadvantages in having linux? Also what do most people use it for everyday personal use?
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Linux just works. Windows has lot of software. Mac is really optimized.
People use Linux to devlop software mostly. Cos it's has great support for development and most servers run on linux.
Windows is still for people who want variety of software and games.
karandpr said:
Linux just works. Windows has lot of software. Mac is really optimized.
People use Linux to devlop software mostly. Cos it's has great support for development and most servers run on linux.
Windows is still for people who want variety of software and games.
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So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
Rbohannon89 said:
So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
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There are lot of steam games for linux . Older games can be played using Wine or Crossover...
Don't expect to play newer games due to graphics card limitations. (DirectX and Video graphics drivers cause issues.)
Rbohannon89 said:
So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
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An older laptop would be a good way to start. Since it's an older laptop I don't imagine there will be an expectation to play new games on it, Windows or otherwise. Still, remains a great way to dip in and and look at Linux's potential.
Also, the make and model of the laptop can determine how well it is suited for Linux (you have mentioned the Windows stickers earlier - especially recently manufacturers have been making it difficult to allow the switch to Linux), can do a web search with 'linux' in the search, or a distribution. e.g. ...
Code:
linux support lenovo t420
debian support lenovo t420
Lenovo, HP, and Dell are big names that appear to play nice (and System76 makes PC's for Linux). Others, can be like rolling the dice.
And when I hint at a difficult time, it's usually the wi-fi, sometimes the trackpad, maybe sound, rarely something very important like video.
Not saying this to discourage, only to suggest research when it comes to any equipment, old or new. Hopefully the toughest thing would be deciding which distribution to choose - I'm enough of an old fogey to stick to versioned, long-term releases like Debian and avoid the bleeding edge "rolling releases" provide.
Hope this helps.
Oh (looking back to the first post), advantages (which are in the eye of the beholder since they can potentially hold a disadvantage):
Free (as in freedom). I like to be able to vote with my dollar, even though Linux users are rarely obligated to pay for software. This is a philosophical reason, and one can go deep down that rabbit hole, what I like is, nothing is hidden from the public eye since the software is often accompanied by source code, on request. Which makes it difficult for say, a search assistant to send unknown data back to the mother ship.
Variety of experience. If you don't like an application, a windows manager, heck even the init process, you can replace it with something else or even write your own.
Support for older hardware. Often the method to revive a five to ten (sometimes quite older - I occasionally run an up-to-date Linux-powered laptop from 2002 with very satisfactory results) year old device for a new life.
Thank you so much for the replies. What kind of hardware and era should I look for to make a smart decision to what kind of laptop to get? From someone who has never ever used linux or even seen it only used windows how hard is the learning curb? Can I load it on the the pc and just go for it or will I be massively confused?
Rbohannon89 said:
Thank you so much for the replies. What kind of hardware and era should I look for to make a smart decision to what kind of laptop to get? From someone who has never ever used linux or even seen it only used windows how hard is the learning curb? Can I load it on the the pc and just go for it or will I be massively confused?
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I would go for a once-mid-to-high-end laptop of about six years old (newer run but still holding the Windows 7 stickers), from a vendor I noted before. It does not guarantee complete compatibility so you would still want to cross reference the model number.
I am not a fan of "chiclet" keyboards (I have enough difficulty typing on laptop keyboards) and have fond memories of the IBM ThinkPads (I used to own the popular 600X) that I maintain one of the final bastions before Lenovo took design tips from Apple (by the way, I hear MacBooks can have reasonable compatibility as well, though there would be an extra premium there).
For a laptop longevity perspective (the second thing to look for), a "flagship" laptop from a vendor (especially from Apple or Lenovo) means better access to (and thus generally less expensive) spare parts. To identify this on the Lenovo side, it would mean part of the "T" or "X" lineup (both are business grade; the X models just have a smaller footprint). For what it's worth, business-grade HP laptops are the "ProBook" series.
From what I understand, the learning curve is not that difficult. There have been people who knew nothing about computers that learned Linux quite easily. The challenge for a Windows user trying Linux becomes "un-learning" specific workflow to make way for new ways of doing things. Apologies I can only be general - me trying to share my experience with the learning curve is difficult since that transition was about two decades ago and Microsoft drastically changed the typical user's workflow three times between the early 1990's of my first computer and the year 2000 (MS-DOS -> Windows 3.1 -> Windows 95 -> NT5) that makes the transition from Windows 7 to 8 to 10 look like a food fight. The first year I was quite reliant on a guru (I was in the expectation to accelerate my knowledge for an upcoming project) until I was directed to not use that as a crutch. A bit sad to say, that moment I was told to "RTFM" for a simple problem was when I really started to learn.
But I would definitely not dive into the deep end (as they say) by wiping your main computer for Linux. For starters, even with decent backups (which you should be doing anyway), your data can be inaccessible (installing Linux on a fully set up PC means losing all your personal files there, and if your backup tool to other media is done by a Windows program, Linux may not support restoring that data).
It is also a quick way to become frustrated when hitting even a small roadblock. I would not use "confused" as asked above for this phenomenon. When you combine the impact of the problem with the time in which you would need it resolved by, it can create a sort of desperation on a forum when the answer could have been glaring back without realizing it. Depending on how well documented the issue's solution is (and when a problem that prevents the achievement of a deadline occours on short notice, blind spots tend to happen to even the best of us), would-be readers get frustrated as well and may criticize the lack of research. An exaggerated XDA example of this is when someone flashes a ROM on their daily driver, without any backups first, without wiping anything, and then frantic that their only phone has app force closures every five seconds - and the plane for their two week trip leaves in six hours. In short, a dedicated device to play on means you set the pace on how you want to learn.
A dedicated laptop would be the better way to go. For a no-cost (no additional hardware to buy) demo of Linux, can try a live CD (will also determine how your hardware can interact with Linux) or maintain a persistent instance through an install in Oracle VirtualBox or VMWare (which Linux will work even if your hardware does not play with Linux). Much further away from recommended territory we have the "cold turkey" method (gripes noted in previous two paragraphs), and finally - for a reason - dual-boot (which has to opportunity to hose one or both operating systems at any given moment - including your data - for as something as simple as a Windows Update).
This turned out to be longer than expected, but I hope this helps.
So it's been about 20 I don't know it's been about since 1997 that I played the Linux or Kali nethunter I was wondering if these are possible put on my smg900v or piece of crap that's the original smart phone from Samsung I don't remember the name but it still on Android Jelly Bean I believe was interested if I could take my two older phones and wipe the OS completely and make them nothing but Linux because I used to have a lot of fun with that we used to stay up and drink beers and play on it you know and then it went away in 2008 and I haven't had a cell phone in years because my work gave me one any advice would be appreciated but my youngest son would probably really be interested in it are you having dyslexia try to get him in anything also I found back in the day where they used to convert that phone to be 2G but I can't find anything but the source code and I don't know how to completely enter source code into an Android phone I had a computer I can do it on the computer but not a phone
averydiablo said:
So it's been about 20 I don't know it's been about since 1997 that I played the Linux or Kali nethunter I was wondering if these are possible put on my smg900v or piece of crap that's the original smart phone from Samsung I don't remember the name but it still on Android Jelly Bean I believe was interested if I could take my two older phones and wipe the OS completely and make them nothing but Linux because I used to have a lot of fun with that we used to stay up and drink beers and play on it you know and then it went away in 2008 and I haven't had a cell phone in years because my work gave me one any advice would be appreciated but my youngest son would probably really be interested in it are you having dyslexia try to get him in anything also I found back in the day where they used to convert that phone to be 2G but I can't find anything but the source code and I don't know how to completely enter source code into an Android phone I had a computer I can do it on the computer but not a phone
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The closest thing you can do is run linux with chroot.
Here is a good post to get you started.
https://www.xda-developers.com/guid...a-gnulinux-environment-on-any-android-device/