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I thought about sharing this. All those interested to help these guys decode should download a file they have put and run it on their PC so that it helps them compute faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921013
Contribute by downloading the application and running it.
Only for Milestone
But if they can hack the Milestone bootloader, would it have any effect on the Defy Deveploment?
It will affect entire motorola android series.
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It looks like it won't affect anything - the project folds in ~4 days amidst claims of a lack of funds.
Damn bad implementation. I am still hopeful xda will take it.
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Common people, this project is alive and kicking! Join the XDA team, even if it's just for the fun of it. XDA is only at the 20th place, ranked to total work done. We can do much much better than that!
With my relatively modest laptop with Core2Duo 2,4 GHz I already crunched quite a lot in almost 24 hours. And soon the Androinc project will also support ATi graphics cards which will be a huge boost to crunching. My ATi 4570 is now crunching for the Collatz Conjencture project, helping to crack on of mathematics last unsolved mysteries, but as soon as Androinc enables gpu crunching I will switch.
Cracking the Milestone's bootloader key might very well crack the Defy's as well. Who knows, with a little bit of luck Motorola uses the same key for all their models...
Almost forgot to say this: if you're running Windows x64 then make sure you download the 64 bit version of the BOINC client. This way your pc will download 64 bit work units which are processed quite a bit faster. Check the complete list with available versions on the BOINC website.
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Common people, this project is alive and kicking! Join the XDA team, even if it's just for the fun of it. XDA is only at the 20th place, ranked to total work done. We can do much much better than that!
With my relatively modest laptop with Core2Duo 2,4 GHz I already crunched quite a lot in almost 24 hours. And soon the Androinc project will also support ATi graphics cards which will be a huge boost to crunching. My ATi 4570 is now crunching for the Collatz Conjencture project, helping to crack on of mathematics last unsolved mysteries, but as soon as Androinc enables gpu crunching I will switch.
Cracking the Milestone's bootloader key might very well crack the Defy's as well. Who knows, with a little bit of luck Motorola uses the same key for all their models...
Almost forgot to say this: if you're running Windows x64 then make sure you download the 64 bit version of the BOINC client. This way your pc will download 64 bit work units which are processed quite a bit faster. Check the complete list with available versions on the BOINC website.
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Cheers! I just downloaded the Mac version and am running it. Lets do it together guys. Download and run the program. As simple as it gets.
I joined the project too.
But how long it takes to find the key?
Could be a day, a week, a month or longer. Cracking a key takes brute force calculations and that means at some point someone's computer finds the key and that's the end of the project. No way to tell when that is going to happen but of course the more data and the longer we crunch the bigger the chance becomes to find this key.
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Almost forgot to say this: if you're running Windows x64 then make sure you download the 64 bit version of the BOINC client. This way your pc will download 64 bit work units which are processed quite a bit faster. Check the complete list with available versions on the BOINC website.
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From what I read on the AndrOINC discussion boards, the x64 version doesn't necessarily result in more work being done by x64 systems.
Or is that not true?
Also, you make mention of supporting ATI graphics cards, what about nVidia ones?
My card's CUDA-capable, so it may as well be put to good use along with my CPU...
On my system 64 bit work units get processed somewhat faster than 32 bit wu's. Strangely BOINC x64 also keeps downloading 32 bit wu's so in practice there is a difference in speed but not that spectacular.
They mentioned that CUDA is in the pipeline too but first it's ATi.
Well, I seem to be churning through the x86 work at a reasonable enough speed so I figure I'll just leave it...
Running this also. However i dont seem to be getting any credits(im not sure what they are) does this mean thaalt im not contributing?
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You need to join the XDA Team in order for your credits to be added to their total. I joined them today to do something in return for the tons of info I found here. Happy crunching! (F0nz0 from Tweakers)
Hi,
I am a defy user contributing with my computer.
I will be a defy user, and contributing with my computer.
I contribut http://androinc.net/show_user.php?userid=2353 but 1024 RSA key
A lot of computer is needed
xda developers at 18th place and counting.
17th place
Another Defy user on board. At least some small hope if Moto doesn't change their policy at all...
I wanna learn how to make programs I have no experience but a basic know how of how stuff works. I have no clue what all that writing is that goes into making apps can somebody point me in the right direction of an explanation for each function? I wanna try to make apps!
Check out AIDE - Android Java IDE on the Google market....
dave198803 said:
I wanna learn how to make programs I have no experience but a basic know how of how stuff works. I have no clue what all that writing is that goes into making apps can somebody point me in the right direction of an explanation for each function? I wanna try to make apps!
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Yea if you don't know anything about it, you are going to need to take classes at a college or read a lot of books. It's not something we can just give you a few tips and you will be making apps in a few minutes. There's a lot involved in programming and coding for someone who knows nothing about it.
Programming code is hard work and very time consuming and its not something you can really do from your phone, you need a proper computer with window's or more preferably Linux to write code and to do it proficiently your going to need atleast 2gb ram and a 2+ ghz dual core processor, but 4+gb ram and a 3+ ghz processor would be ideal even having multiple PC's networked into each other would be the best route as compiling code takes a lot of ram and processing power and will slow your computer to almost useless while it is compiling especially larger chunks of code that need to be debugged and compressed during the compile phase
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you need a proper computer with window's or more preferably Linux to write code and to do it proficiently your going to need atleast 2gb ram and a 2+ ghz dual core processor, but 4+gb ram and a 3+ ghz processor would be ideal even having multiple PC's networked into each other would be the best route as compiling code takes a lot of ram and processing power and will slow your computer to almost useless while it is compiling especially larger chunks of code that need to be debugged and compressed during the compile phase
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It is insane that people think like this. Especially in general terms like, "Multiple PC's networked into each other".
Just about any modern pc bought in the last 4 or 5 years would be great for native or web application development. Sure more is always better. But you shouldn't discourage people by giving them ridiculous figures about ghz and ****. A decent refurb x64 laptop would work great.
You definitely do not need (even in an advanced development workflow) multiple computers networked to compile ****ty java applications. Sheesh. The biggest performance hit is going to be the android emulator (and iOS simulator if you're on a mac). If you have a cheap android, you may not really need them anyway. Even then, they will work on low memory systems. Just be prepared to hear your hard drive go to town.
Anyway, here is some real advice on getting into mobile application development...
[Let me start out by saying that your tool set becomes more important as your progress. Text editors, IDE's etc. That being said, you can get away with a lot at first, but in the end, you really need to be on linux or a mac. Now, if you've never used linux before, I don't think its a great idea to try and become familiar with a new operating system AND a new skill like programming at the same time. However, they really do go hand-in-hand. My daily routine would take me 2-3 times as long if I didn't run linux and occasionally osx. Anyway, you can do android development on windows. But if you are really committed to doing this, you will thank me later for recommending ubuntu and fedora.]
Second, if you are stuck on android, don't start with java. Therefor, don't start with android/mobile. Its always good to start off learning proper programming on a more simple scale. At least for the first few weeks if you are really committed. Python is bad ass. So is web development. Hell, if you really wanted to make mobile apps, start with mobile web apps in html5. If you learn JS and understand OOP principals, its not a huge step to start working on an html5 app. With modern frameworks, its actually quite simple. Sencha Touch, ExtJS, and Titanium are fantastic for crossing that bridge. Obviously you can't make killer 3D games that rival gameloft, but you can make some kick-ass stuff in there.
Finally, pick a simple starter project and make it. You know? Pick a simple tool that you care about or really need, and just make it yourself. Examples: A graphing tool that keeps track of something in your schedule. A little tool to log your billable hours. Etc. My first python app was a plugin for XBMC that let me burn my xbox360 games using my remote control on my tv. Simple simple simple.
I guarantee after you build something simple for youself like that, you will get hooked and be on your way.
If you can postpone being a mobile app millionaire for a little while, I really recommend (again) python. Its great for learning object oriented stuff, and with django, cherrypy, and other frameworks/tools, you would really start to understand that thinking that goes into being a programmer... MVC, etc.
This will help you no matter where you go. I hope the swearing filters don't strip this out.
http://programming-************.com/
One final AND THE MOST IMPORTANT note... When, not if but WHEN you get stuck, just go read more tutorials and documentation. Hell, read a book or a magazine. Just read ANYTHING. Reading is the most valuable tool a programmer has. Don't immediately run to forums and beg for help. That won't get you anywhere. Read read read then search search search. I cannot stress that enough. Can't find a solution to your problem? Try going back a few chapters and reading some more. That doesn't work? Search for similar problems. If that doesn't work either, try to redesign or rebuild your app in a way that just removes the source of the problem. If that fails, THEN you probably have a tough problem that people will actually want to help you fix. I promise.
College DOESN'T effing stress reading enough. That's why you see a bunch of idiot java developers coming from universities and don't know ****. I went to college for BS-ACS Chemistry. Now I do mobile application/web development. The only reason I found it so easy was because I was not scared of reading. Try it, you might like it
I'm not talking about building a simple app I'm talking about real development, real programming not making a simple 2d twitter knock off but building ROMs from source or apps compatible with multiple devices especially apps utilizing 3d graphics. It takes alot of RAM and processing power to compile that kind of data, sure ur average best buy laptop can build u a Facebook, notepad, twitter, forum Crawler app but if u build a ROM from source on it don't even think of using it for anything else during the compile. I have a box with dual quadcores clocked at 3.2ghz each and 16gb of ram and it can't keep up with all the code I run while I try to work as well hence why I have 6 PC's networked together for compiling code and 2 laptops for work
Not to mention he asked if he could do it from his phone maybe you should learn to read the OP before providing your lack of development knowledge when it comes to building anything at all from.scratch
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Exactly, he asked about making apps. Not roms.
Even if he did, you dont need to suggest such massive scale hardware to a beginner.
Further, you personally aren't networking 6 nodes to compile ****. I'm 100% on that fact. Even if you were that misguided, that's kinda lame. You can build specs using multiple threads on an i3 laptop and it builds just fine. Hell, I've played angry birds while compiling a new fedora kernel. Why would you think to suggest such crazy stuff?
You don't need to lie and/or talk up your mad development skills and 6 node development tool chain to impress me, friend. I already had a good indication of your mad skills when you suggested all of this nonsense in the first place. You obviously know what you are talking about... Anyone that has capitalized every other letter in their username, and spells concept with a K is obviously a serious dev.
Send me a request on gh and we'll compare private repos. You are such a mad skills dev that I wouldn't have anything to worry about -- you wouldn't want to steal code from a guy like me that doesn't know what I'm doing.
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You obviously don't know much about programming software from scratch using anything requiring 3d graphics why do you think cyanogen mod uses 12 core xeon 32gb ram servers to compile, I build stuff for 5 devices, epic touch, evo 4g, galaxy note, moto photon and the kindle fire and I also have to be able to do my job which requires CAD so you don't need to try and tell me what I use to write and compile code since you quite obviously have never seen my home office go troll somewhere else, and like I said the minimum he would need is a 64-bit quad core at 3+ghz and a minimum 4gb RAM to efficiently compile code and still use the computer and for it to not take 24+ hours for it to complete
I've been using this same user name across many chats and forums since 1997 u obviously have epeen issues dude
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3 or 4gb of RAM and anything that says core on it would be fine for what the dude is asking for. Get real.
As far as cyanogen goes, I would imagine he does have a boss ass rig because of how many devices they distribute.
But since you don't do any of that, its unlikely you have anything of the sort, and more likely you say outlandish **** on forums to make people think you do more than you say. You clearly don't.
... Still waiting to compare repos. I didn't get a request from you yet. It could be that you capitalize every other letter in your username and are too cool so the system didn't send it. Or you simply forgot that when you make a retarded username you need to escape those characters. You are so eViL. Or is it EvIl? I'm not good at remembering homo-erotic usernames.
I'll never understand lying in forums to impress dudes you are never going to meet in real life. I guess your mad skills need emotional support. Sorry if I set you back a few issues of vanity fair.
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First of all you don't know what I do or don't do, simply because I don't release my stuff publicly. You clearly have serious issues and I'm done with you, I have nothing to prove to you so there's no point in wasting my time, there are plenty of people on here who know what I can do and have done so your epinion means abosolutely not a damn thing to me, have a nice day and I hope you seek help for your issues you have I'm actually working so I don't have time to compare repos with people who have less posts than I have thanks, the only person here who needs to make themselves feel better about their life on the internet is yourself, I'm quite happy with my life, I have a great family a good job and a nice home to live in, I don't have to troll forums looking for ppl to compare my epeen too, you act like you're 12, "my repository is bigger than yours" seriously grow up little man
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First of all you don't know what I do or don't do, simply because I don't release my stuff publicly. You clearly have serious issues and I'm done with you, I have nothing to prove to you so there's no point in wasting my time, there are plenty of people on here who know what I can do and have done so your epinion means abosolutely not a damn thing to me, have a nice day and I hope you seek help for your issues you have I'm actually working so I don't have time to compare repos with people who have less posts than I have thanks, the only person here who needs to make themselves feel better about their life on the internet is yourself, I'm quite happy with my life, I have a great family a good job and a nice home to live in, I don't have to troll forums looking for ppl to compare my epeen too, you act like you're 12, "my repository is bigger than yours" seriously grow up little man
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Dude just do you! This dude is obviously a troll and has nothing better to do then to clown on other people to make his sorry ass life seem decent. I know what you can do and there's plenty of people that know of your skills so don't bother with this Jackass anymore! Just let him talk to himself on here and whenever he gets his refill on his lortabs, he'll calm down a bit..hahahaha
Yeah you obviously aren't letting this bother you. Being incorrect in your reasoning will do that to you.
... STILL waiting on that github request. Almost all of my repos are private too. You can still hide your directory tree from me as a collaborator. I won't hold you to the same thing. This will give you a chance to go make a bunch of fake projects to live the lie just a little bit longer... haha.
Wish I had some lortabs actually. Good call.
Like I said I'm done with you I have no need to compare anything with you, I have no one I need to impress especially not you, you're a quite disturbed individual. Why don't you flex your grip on reality and get a life, instead of internet stalking me like the loser you are. now have fun trolling the web looking for someone to try and compare yourself to to make yourself feel better about your pathetic little life, now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to work I have money to make and kids to feed, have fun with your adolescent lifestyle and pumping up your epeen
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Like I said I'm done with you I have no need to compare anything with you, I have no one I need to impress especially not you, you're a quite disturbed individual. Why don't you flex your grip on reality and get a life, instead of internet stalking me like the loser you are. now have fun trolling the web looking for someone to try and compare yourself to to make yourself feel better about your pathetic little life, now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to work I have money to make and kids to feed, have fun with your adolescent lifestyle and pumping up your epeen
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Yeah because correcting a lying know it all and keeping him from giving bad advice to a beginner seeking real information somehow equates to stalking. Even though I haven't private messages you or talked to you in any other thread.
Especially since you are the one that got your civil union pal to help defend you.
Also you keep saying you are leaving and then YOU keep coming back. That's what happens when you lie. You have to keep pretending to keep the lie going.
I still haven't received a notification on github. The difference between you and me? I back up the **** I say. You revert to having your non-hetero friends come in here to back you up when someone calls you on your embellishment.
Let me know when you want to stop running scared. Oops. That statement alone could constitute Internet stalking to little girls that keep coming back for more... Live the lie.
Edit: hahaha I keep thinking about how stupid you sound talking about "networking" 6 computers together to compile roms that don't exist. My intern just said to me on gtalk, "I've been doing this for 6 months and even I know this guy is a nobody. Hes never messed with node arrangements because he called it 'networking'"... Hilarious.
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Yeah because correcting a lying know it all and keeping him from giving bad advice to a beginner seeking real information somehow equates to stalking. Even though I haven't private messages you or talked to you in any other thread.
Especially since you are the one that got your civil union pal to help defend you.
Also you keep saying you are leaving and then YOU keep coming back. That's what happens when you lie. You have to keep pretending to keep the lie going.
I still haven't received a notification on github. The difference between you and me? I back up the **** I say. You revert to having your non-hetero friends come in here to back you up when someone calls you on your embellishment.
Let me know when you want to stop running scared. Oops. That statement alone could constitute Internet stalking to little girls that keep coming back for more... Live the lie.
Edit: hahaha I keep thinking about how stupid you sound talking about "networking" 6 computers together to compile roms that don't exist. My intern just said to me on gtalk, "I've been doing this for 6 months and even I know this guy is a nobody. Hes never messed with node arrangements because he called it 'networking'"... Hilarious.
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Bro really...while I can see that you have some basic knowledge and prob decent programming skill...you coming in here being a little douche proves nothing. You personally attacking someone else for a user name really really are you that pathetic and have to sink that low cause you have nothing else better to do.
Yeah I personally know evil and know his set up and exactly what he can do. He has helped me with app development and my script work here as well. I've worked with him doing rom development. I also have compiled aosp from source and anyone who has knows its a long ass process and can take up to 24 hours to compile and will fail if your system specs are to low which a basic refurbished older computer could not handle. I know that ics took my 6 core forever and even then I ended up dumping it.
Here's a thought if you want to attack someone then try me. You won't hurt my feeling but you will make yourself look like a bigger ass.
I could care less what you know and what you've done. You don't show up on this forum being a douche and not get called out for it.
Oh and before you ask I have no desire to compare my gh to yours so don't bother asking.
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Bro really...while I can see that you have some basic knowledge and prob decent programming skill...you coming in here being a little douche proves nothing. You personally attacking someone else for a user name really really are you that pathetic and have to sink that low cause you have nothing else better to do.
Yeah I personally know evil and know his set up and exactly what he can do. He has helped me with app development and my script work here as well. I've worked with him doing rom development. I also have compiled aosp from source and anyone who has knows its a long ass process and can take up to 24 hours to compile and will fail if your system specs are to low which a basic refurbished older computer could not handle. I know that ics took my 6 core forever and even then I ended up dumping it.
Here's a thought if you want to attack someone then try me. You won't hurt my feeling but you will make yourself look like a bigger ass.
I could care less what you know and what you've done. You don't show up on this forum being a douche and not get called out for it.
Oh and before you ask I have no desire to compare my gh to yours so don't bother asking.
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Why would I want to do any of that to you? You didn't give out elitist/false information to a guy who is just at the beginning of, maybe, learning to code. Nor did you claim some incorrect minimum system specs that google doesn't even back up (http://developer.android.com/sdk/requirements.html).
You can easily tell the people who know enough to be dangerous, and know enough to try and mislead others. And I'm sorry, but people who do the EvErY oThEr CaP lEtTeR in a misspelled username obviously picked up their technical knowledge from this movie:
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So no, I wouldn't start something with you for no reason. And I especially didn't "show up" in this forum trying to be a dbag to anyone that would listen. Just the ones that spew bull****.
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Why would I want to do any of that to you? You didn't give out elitist/false information to a guy who is just at the beginning of, maybe, learning to code. Nor did you claim some incorrect minimum system specs that google doesn't even back up (http://developer.android.com/sdk/requirements.html).
You can easily tell the people who know enough to be dangerous, and know enough to try and mislead others. And I'm sorry, but people who do the EvErY oThEr CaP lEtTeR in a misspelled username obviously picked up their technical knowledge from this movie:
So no, I wouldn't start something with you for no reason. And I especially didn't "show up" in this forum trying to be a dbag to anyone that would listen. Just the ones that spew bull****.
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Lol I actually really like that movie. And as far as user names go I could care less. I mean look at name. Its a cartoon character for the 80's. I don't see u talking **** bout that. Also android sdk isn't what takes forever to use or compile. Its actually pulling the aosp code from google which for ics is huge and then compiling it and debugging it and pulling the correct drivers for your device. Believe me it takes forever. Most guys when ics first hit had a really hard time with their beasts of a system. Some said u needed more that 8 cores and 16 gb of ram to even start and even then it was slow. I happen to agree with that after trying myself.
Now when it comes to mobile app development that can be done on a laptop. I'm used a dual core 4 gb 3 yr old gateway laptop for my stuff and eclipse and other programs work OK but for serious work u need heavy duty hardware. Also there is a difference between a node and networking. You can hook up a chain of computers within the same room to use as a build bot and that's exactly what cynagen does with his stuff except they arnt using little beast computers they r using massive server towers.
Anyways all I'm saying is that with the small amount of time you've posted on this forum its not a good idea to start issues and fight with a senior member. Not only does it not get you anywhere but it gives u a bad name and makes other member see u as a negative influence around here
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Check out AIDE - Android Java IDE on the Google market....
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This is exactly what I was talking about! Thanks man, all I have to do now is figure out how to build apps. Thanks man +rep
flexgrip said:
It is insane that people think like this. Especially in general terms like, "Multiple PC's networked into each other".
Just about any modern pc bought in the last 4 or 5 years would be great for native or web application development. Sure more is always better. But you shouldn't discourage people by giving them ridiculous figures about ghz and ****. A decent refurb x64 laptop would work great.
You definitely do not need (even in an advanced development workflow) multiple computers networked to compile ****ty java applications. Sheesh. The biggest performance hit is going to be the android emulator (and iOS simulator if you're on a mac). If you have a cheap android, you may not really need them anyway. Even then, they will work on low memory systems. Just be prepared to hear your hard drive go to town.
Anyway, here is some real advice on getting into mobile application development...
[Let me start out by saying that your tool set becomes more important as your progress. Text editors, IDE's etc. That being said, you can get away with a lot at first, but in the end, you really need to be on linux or a mac. Now, if you've never used linux before, I don't think its a great idea to try and become familiar with a new operating system AND a new skill like programming at the same time. However, they really do go hand-in-hand. My daily routine would take me 2-3 times as long if I didn't run linux and occasionally osx. Anyway, you can do android development on windows. But if you are really committed to doing this, you will thank me later for recommending ubuntu and fedora.]
Second, if you are stuck on android, don't start with java. Therefor, don't start with android/mobile. Its always good to start off learning proper programming on a more simple scale. At least for the first few weeks if you are really committed. Python is bad ass. So is web development. Hell, if you really wanted to make mobile apps, start with mobile web apps in html5. If you learn JS and understand OOP principals, its not a huge step to start working on an html5 app. With modern frameworks, its actually quite simple. Sencha Touch, ExtJS, and Titanium are fantastic for crossing that bridge. Obviously you can't make killer 3D games that rival gameloft, but you can make some kick-ass stuff in there.
Finally, pick a simple starter project and make it. You know? Pick a simple tool that you care about or really need, and just make it yourself. Examples: A graphing tool that keeps track of something in your schedule. A little tool to log your billable hours. Etc. My first python app was a plugin for XBMC that let me burn my xbox360 games using my remote control on my tv. Simple simple simple.
I guarantee after you build something simple for youself like that, you will get hooked and be on your way.
If you can postpone being a mobile app millionaire for a little while, I really recommend (again) python. Its great for learning object oriented stuff, and with django, cherrypy, and other frameworks/tools, you would really start to understand that thinking that goes into being a programmer... MVC, etc.
This will help you no matter where you go. I hope the swearing filters don't strip this out.
http://programming-************.com/
One final AND THE MOST IMPORTANT note... When, not if but WHEN you get stuck, just go read more tutorials and documentation. Hell, read a book or a magazine. Just read ANYTHING. Reading is the most valuable tool a programmer has. Don't immediately run to forums and beg for help. That won't get you anywhere. Read read read then search search search. I cannot stress that enough. Can't find a solution to your problem? Try going back a few chapters and reading some more. That doesn't work? Search for similar problems. If that doesn't work either, try to redesign or rebuild your app in a way that just removes the source of the problem. If that fails, THEN you probably have a tough problem that people will actually want to help you fix. I promise.
College DOESN'T effing stress reading enough. That's why you see a bunch of idiot java developers coming from universities and don't know ****. I went to college for BS-ACS Chemistry. Now I do mobile application/web development. The only reason I found it so easy was because I was not scared of reading. Try it, you might like it
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This was a well thought out post, and a great read. Thank you for putting an effort towards helping me. Lol its gonna take me about a week to pick through all this knowledge, but I will put it to good use. Thank you.
Hello everyone,
There is a known issue that most cloud share sites like dropbox and box.net loose sharing due to bandwidth allocation issues.. with that said, I have a offer for you if you need to share development files here.
I am a technology solutions provider for the whole region where I live, (in the united states) and I offer you my personal site http://hazard1nc.com it has limited bandwidth for now, but the more people sign up for accounts using my link provided in the first post on my site, you will notice that it says it will give me more features, theses features include bandwidth and more storage, its my dream ultimately to self host but due to new baby being born and taking care of 6 people hinder such dreams for now.
So if you need storage and bandwidth, I rarely use my site as I'm busy running my business and being a family man, if I can help out with this, I'd be happy to do so! So thanks for reading and I hope that this can help you.
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Are you offering housing space for development?
I am offering a place to share, I don't have much to offer in terms of anyway to have a CVS repo or anything, but I am offering a place to put your final test projects for members both here and there to test on. If it was self hosted (money issues) I'd offer what more I could.
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Hell if you can make the site work for development purposes and give me feedback on plugins and such that I should add, I'd be happy to listen.
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I am offering a place to share, I don't have much to offer in terms of anyway to have a CVS repo or anything, but I am offering a place to put your final test projects for members both here and there to test on. If it was self hosted (money issues) I'd offer what more I could.
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If it's a money making site then I'm afraid that isn't allowed here on XDA.
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Its not about making money, I am doing it out of the kindness of my heart and funding it myself. I just said that I don't have the funds currently.
I won't turn away donations, the site itself was just a way to share my tech interests with my local community freely offering tips and tricks for their computer needs as I am the only technology consultant around for 100 miles.
In reality, I just don't have time, I was going to post my local services on a page but if that makes it bad for helping people here then I won't
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hazard1nc said:
Its not about making money, I am doing it out of the kindness of my heart and funding it myself. I just said that I don't have the funds currently.
I won't turn away donations, the site itself was just a way to share my tech interests with my local community freely offering tips and tricks for their computer needs as I am the only technology consultant around for 100 miles.
In reality, I just don't have time, I was going to post my local services on a page but if that makes it bad for helping people here then I won't
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Would you happen to be able to give Team Aurora (ItsMeBdon, Shawn, me) a part of your site where we can upload? We're nearing our Dropbox limit and don't really have any other options :|
Thanks!
I kinda jumped before looking, id be happy to assist but my host caps uploads at 8mb if you can keep it in that range I'd be happy to, I'm looking for another host and might have found one, keep in touch with me and I will do my best. I gotta make sure they don't cap my uploads to the server but I'd be happy to once I get the right host
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Aquethys said:
Would you happen to be able to give Team Aurora (ItsMeBdon, Shawn, me) a part of your site where we can upload? We're nearing our Dropbox limit and don't really have any other options :|
Thanks!
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As far as that goes, there are many hosts out there, I'll compile a list if you want, I am a tech consultant and solutions provider so its in my nature to do this just gimme a few or let me figure out my upload limitations I will get this all sorted and once done we will be in business
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Okay guys I'm sorry it took me so long, I found a new host but can't take my domain with just yet to it.. not going into details why, but if you want me to host your projects, I will be happy to do so.
I am also surprised that none of you share bigger files like roms and such on bittorrent.. would seem more ideal to share this way and its more safe as it uses hashes to piece the app back together.. anyways that's not the point.
I have a list of numerous different share sites and cloud technologies on this page here.
Most note worthy of the cloud servers would have to be ADrive.com giving away 50gb storage for free for banners, and as long as you set your hosts files just right, you don't even see a single banner or ad, I haven't yet anyways.
I just hope that this helps everyone who working on these projects and I will do my best to keep these site lists current for you and add more as we go along.
I am just sorry it took me so long to get setup, my wife about to give birth any day now, my 4th and its been mad hectic with work and steess, but the site is down right now on the new host and will be for a couple weeks.
Thank you all for being patient and I will get this going for you, I'll put up polls and such so you can help me make the site better for your needs in this way..
Anyways, busy times for me ahead,will try to pop in when I can yo test for those who need a tester, but gonna be hectic more so for a few months, will keep updated on the sites progress and will need some help testing that when able, sign up for that when its more close to the end, maybe a couple weeks more, at the latest.
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Honestly, I'm very glad that people don't host their roms via bittorrent, as it's a nightmare for anyone who's looking to snag something for an older phone. I often find myself in possession of old android hardware, and I repurpose them for VoIP phones or other misc. With older hardware, it's often unbearably slow on the official rom, and the best solution is to track down something custom.
I just spent like 4 hours tracking down a rom for the Huawei Ascend M860, over half of the links were dead, and an entire site where a large portion of the development took place had folded because of the age of the device. With torrents, it's easy for something less popular like an older device to lose what few seeds it had, while a reliable mirror site will at least be up for reasonable amount of time.
I am needing Silverlight for my tablet. I am in a RN program that makes us test/quiz on a program called ATI that requires Silverlight to be able to answer and read test questions. I wish I had an answer for this. I know that if someone did figure this out that a great bounty would come from it. I would definitely donate to the cause. If this can be done I can see it really being a great help to many. Is there a miracle worker out there that can pull this off?
Silverlight is closed source software from Microsoft ...and only they can port it...
According to their website....they consider android obsolete...and will not support it anyway...
You may need another means to view your content...as silverlight will likely never run on android...and the moonlight project met it's demise over 2 years ago..
Sorry about that ...g
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/18/cyanogenmod-forms-cyanogen-inc-with-7-million-in-funding-to-release-cm-installer-app-through-google-play/
I'm very interested that they have created a deal with a hardware vendor. If I'm not mistaken this is essentially what MIUI has done with Xiaomi in China. I hope it works for CM, they have done as much for Android as Google has in some regards.
I wonder if it's HTC? I'm always rooting for them, I can't believe they're doing so poorly. Says the guy with an LG phone but still.
Probably oppo or Sony. Both of them have helped with CM and contribute more source than legally required.
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I would have to tend to agree with the Readers over at Droid Life, this is NOT really good news when you consider what is more then likely going to happen when it comes to investors. Mainstream is gonna change CM, it has to for the average user.
I hope that AOKP is able to survive the fallout (so to speak) if the mainstream does bring drastic changes!
Hmm, I can see another OS for android coming on the scene now. With that in mind it could work out for the better, although that doesn't happen to often in these type of situations.
Just MO!
Open source has to financially sustain itself, look at Ubuntu attempting to get corporations involved.
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I would have to tend to agree with the Readers over at Droid Life, this is NOT really good news when you consider what is more then likely going to happen when it comes to investors. Mainstream is gonna change CM, it has to for the average user.
I hope that AOKP is able to survive the fallout (so to speak) if the mainstream does bring drastic changes!
Hmm, I can see another OS for android coming on the scene now. With that in mind it could work out for the better, although that doesn't happen to often in these type of situations.
Just MO!
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I think there are some pros and cons. Ultimately I think as long as they do what they have stated they will continue to do, which is keep the software open source and develop in accordance with the Apache Licensing guidelines then I imagine it will be ok for the most part. I'm personally very excited to see CM being the default ROM loaded onto point of sale devices.
If xboxfanj is right, and oppo or Sony is the hardware partner these could be great phones. Both hardware manufacturers have made some very high quality handsets in the last year or so and appear to be the manufacturers that are kind of flying under the radar at this point.
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I think there are some pros and cons. Ultimately I think as long as they do what they have stated they will continue to do, which is keep the software open source and develop in accordance with the Apache Licensing guidelines then I imagine it will be ok for the most part. I'm personally very excited to see CM being the default ROM loaded onto point of sale devices.
If xboxfanj is right, and oppo or Sony is the hardware partner these could be great phones. Both hardware manufacturers have made some very high quality handsets in the last year or so and appear to be the manufacturers that are kind of flying under the radar at this point.
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Sounds like CM isn't going to keep everything open, based on what xplodwild is saying. They wanted to license Focal differently and keep it partially proprietary while not giving him anything even though he made the app.
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Sounds like CM isn't going to keep everything open, based on what xplodwild is saying. They wanted to license Focal differently and keep it partially proprietary while not giving him anything even though he made the app.
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Steve Kondik and Koush have told a different story. I will find the article I read where kondik said in no uncertain terms they planned to keep everything open.
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All I can figure from this is that is gonna be hard for Cyanogenmod to win back the community that's supported them this entire time after alienating them like this. Ugly stuff going on behind the scenes in the community, I mean half the reason people on this site support Android as their mobile OS of choice in the first place is because of how open it is.
I look at Boxee as an example of what happens when a community supported open source project begins to make compromises for the sake of corporate partnerships. I think CM are killing themselves because their user base has no interest in a watered down ROM.
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Steve Kondik and Koush have told a different story. I will find the article I read where kondik said in no uncertain terms they planned to keep everything open.
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https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs
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Have read this. I prefer to give then the benefit of the doubt before assuming that they have embraced evil and will do nothing more than screw everyone that they ever looked at.
Kondik has made several statements to the effect that they have no plans to close anything off. At the end of the day we will see. Until then, CM had given a LOT to the Android community and I think they have earned at least a little trust. Innocent until proven guilty after all.
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Have read this. I prefer to give then the benefit of the doubt before assuming that they have embraced evil and will do nothing more than screw everyone that they ever looked at.
Kondik has made several statements to the effect that they have no plans to close anything off. At the end of the day we will see. Until then, CM had given a LOT to the Android community and I think they have earned at least a little trust. Innocent until proven guilty after all.
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Xplodwild's post certainly makes sense and he was pretty loyal to CM. He made this project to spearhead Project Nemesis. I understand that CM needs to be able to make money, but I definitely don't want that to be at the cost of user freedom and the dual-licensing seems pretty sketchy. Steve's response as grabs popcorn certainly doesn't alleviate the fears of CM taking the money and running as it were and doesn't reject Guillame's post at all. It all but confirms it. Plus, it certainly doesn't seem fair that only Steve, Ricardo, Koush, and other full-time employees are the only ones being rewarded here. Obviously, you can't pay everyone that fixes spelling mistakes in the code, but Guillame and Andrew Neal (dev of Apollo) or Nebkat (dev of Trebuchet) have made apps in their free times for nothing, which they thought was contributing to a free project, but to have others make money off of their work seems like insanity to me.
Its time to start changing from cm ... If it wasn't for all the devs out their they wouldn't b in the position they are in to profit and claim that hey once u help us we get to do what we want and if u don't like it take a hike ... I'm all for cm expanding into bigger and better but not at the exspense of the people who made them and got them to the status they have ....
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Its time to start changing from cm ... If it wasn't for all the devs out their they wouldn't b in the position they are in to profit and claim that hey once u help us we get to do what we want and if u don't like it take a hike ... I'm all for cm expanding into bigger and better but not at the exspense of the people who made them and got them to the status they have ....
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I figured the same thing. Guess we will need a new base to build with lol. Suggestions? I'm a complete Noob when it comes to developing but I understand how the file system and everything INSIDE the phone is set up (for the most part) and want to see about contributing back
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