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S4 from a S3?

I have been stoked with my i9300 now for almost a year (Running custom OMEGA ROM 4.1.2) and am considering the new S4.
Of course it goes without saying that i fully intend on running a custom ROM on that too, but just wondering if i could hear from anyone that has recently gone from S3 to S4 and would like to share any tips or thoughts. In particular in relation to the custom ROM/rooting matter.
Cheers

heath_AU said:
I have been stoked with my i9300 now for almost a year (Running custom OMEGA ROM 4.1.2) and am considering the new S4.
Of course it goes without saying that i fully intend on running a custom ROM on that too, but just wondering if i could hear from anyone that has recently gone from S3 to S4 and would like to share any tips or thoughts. In particular in relation to the custom ROM/rooting matter.
Cheers
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I have had all the variants of the Galaxy S devices from the S1 to the S4.... I have ran just about every custom rom there is available for each of them.... I used the S3 the longest and was very impressed with the evolution of the devices...I have done about every mod you can do to the S3 and loved the style and the performance overall...Comparing it the the latest and greatest S4 I'm glad I upgraded.. The screen is amazing and once I started running CM 10.1 the speed and snappiness are a huge improvement over the S3... I have been running Cm 10.1 nightly's since I got mine in the mail and already I have fewer bugs than I ever did on the S3.... I normally don't run CM however roms are in short supply...I'm very impressed with the stability that CM offers already and would recommend it to anyone on the SGH-M919...To answer your question I would highly recommend you upgrade to the S4.....
P.S. The larger battery isn't just for show I get great battery life and I'm a heavy user!

s4 is bigger and faster than s3. nothing else, i think.
use 9300 almost one year

i also upgraded from the i9300, there is quite a bit of improvement -
1. screen is way better
2. camera way better
3. although I haven't tried every new feature yet, but I'm now using the air view feature quite often (the finger hovering)
X. temporarily cures my new-phonitis, prognosis is good for another year.

Lets just say that the S4 is definitely not worse than the S3, and nearly everything is a bit better, with an extra feature here or there. Take for example, the Camera app. It's much improved with more features - hands down it is probably the best camera app for a smartphone. The question is really if it's worth the upgrade. If you can manage to sell your old S3 to fund for the S4 (and don't have to add too much extra out-of-pocket), then why not upgrade? If you like the latest and greatest, trying out all the new features and hardware with custom ROMs and MODs, why not? If you are a regular consumer who's not into any of that stuff I just mention, then probably you should stick with the S3.

I've also gone S2 -> S3 -> S4. So far, I'm mixed on it. The screen is much nicer, and the additional Touchwiz features are useless since I disable them (lag) and they're only in stock apps which I rarely use. The main reason I can see to upgrade is the camera - it's FAR improved. But other than a nicer screen, maybe a little speed (not really noticeable if you have your S3 tweaked well) and the camera it's mostly the same. I got mine for free, but if I had paid significantly for it I'd have to admit to myself it was for the latest and greatest, but not for a particularly good reason. And I'm a huge early adopter.

Went from s3 to note 2 to s4 I think Im going back to the note 2...s4 is good but I've told my friends its not worth the extra money to upgrade to a s4..Honestly the screen is nice but it's not a huge jump from 720 to 1080, also I've gotten really bad battery life but then again I'm not running any roms or anything. Either way unless your due for a upgrade I dont think its worth the money going from the note 2 to s4 would cost me 300 extra I'd rather wait for a bigger jump.

As mentioned, if you're paying outright $629 for the phone it isn't worth it in my opinion unless $ is not an issue for you. The benifits obvious would be slightly better camera (s3 is already great), slightly bigger screen (you wont even notice), 1080p (not much different to me), quadcore (on custom roms and kernel, this may not matter as much), and LTE. Other features are just pluses but you may not use as much as you'd think. S4 IMO is a step up not a big jump from the s3.
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Came from s3. The screen alone makes it worth the money imo. But check it out in person if you need to be sold!
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I came from the S3 being as I suck with technology I just run the phones stock
so just going by stock I must say that the S4 is much better I just love the overall feel, look of the phone better screen, camera, faster

I got the gs3 initially as a phone I could keep for years and be good with, but now I am thinking the gs4 is that phone. 1080p screen won't be changing any time soon, I like the size, and it has lte. So I'm thinking of upgrading to the gs4, and then chilling with that for at least 4 years or more. I'm not a switch all the time type of person as long as what I have can take advantage of what's available.

lucaslion said:
s4 is bigger and faster than s3. nothing else, i think.
use 9300 almost one year
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I am just curious .... i was pretty sure the S4 has some cool built-in features (for example in the camera features) that none of the S3 4.2.2 ROM builds have seemed to have.
Or am i perhaps imagining this?

I'd do the S3
S3 is the choice

I did the same....
In April of this year I bought the s3 and in June I bought the s4... I no regrets or complaints on the s4... I'm always getting bugged by friends telling me are you getting s5 next week...
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I actually have moved onto the S4 from the S3. The S3 was only about 6 months old before i decided to get the S4. Formerly loyal to iPhone until the iPhone 3. Later moved onto HTC variants and never really liked Samsung devices. After the death of my One S, by impulse, purchased an S3. Wonderful phone but the lag was noticeable. After using a S4, instantly fell in love with it. The display is just amazing, the design is a bit better (slight changes from S3, but feels better to hold). Snapdragon 600 (enough said). After switching to Apex launcher, all the transitions and animations were lag free and smooth. A month later with the S4, it still runs as if i just took it out of the box. We all know that the S3 had rather ugly accessories, but the new cases that are out for the S4 have better design aesthetics. I would totally recommend switching to the S4 is you're financially stable and have the desire to purchase a new device.

I have a question for S3 / S4 users.
When you access your RAM tab in Task Manager, how much memory are you generally using?
On my S3 i am almost always using around 700+ of my 828MB. Even when i clear the memory I am still using around 650MB or so.
Is this normal?
And i am keen to know how much memory the S4 users are using.
Cheers

[Q] Whats your s4 mini replacement device?

I have had this phone about 5 times longer than I have EVER had a phone, Its time for a new device! It has gotten very boring!
The s4 mini is a couple years old now but still king of the 4.3" market (with price and features included), what phones have y'all seen that will replace your s4 mini?
My phones must have an sd slot, 4.3ish inch screen(one thumb use), good cameras, LTE, and user replacable batteries.
The s5 mini would work for me if I could figure out how to move it to sprint from us cellular, z3 compact would be nice as well but the price is unjustifiable and I had a z1 compact and it had all sorts of bugs that I read arent too far off the z3c, the s5 mini Im still on the hunt for but I am also trying to make the switch over to cdma, the htc minis are solid phones but just not well executed with all its features being dull.
And to top it all off, the small screen market is so messed up I have almost gotten a few iphone 5s to play with! help me find a better phone!

Z3 has no custom rooms yet, especially no miui.
And it's very weak it would seem.
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Z3 has no custom rooms yet, especially no miui.
And it's very weak it would seem.
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Idk the last time you looked bit about a week ago I seen they finally have full root for z3c so it'll be more appealing to the majority and speed things up. I still think I'd rather have a s5 mini over the z3c any day though.

I did try a z3c before I bought my s4mini, also the off screen buttons that Samsung have at the bottom makes quite a difference!
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qbert456 said:
I did try a z3c before I bought my s4mini, also the off screen buttons that Samsung have at the bottom makes quite a difference!
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Definitely! I grew up on HTC phones and love my capacitive buttons. I tried the Nav bar buttons on a few phones and its just weird, but they usually come with a slightly bigger screen to offset. But it still reminds me too much of an iPhone where your screen is taken up by buttons rather than physical buttons

Well I've been living with the z5 compact for a few months and absolutely hate it. It's pretty much the only option out there right now but I still feel the s4 mini was a better phone. What have y'all come to decide on?
S7 mini is rumored, but will likely be large, xiamo mi5 mini will be perfect but no SD slot, HTC 10 mini is a rumor but probably too large with no SD slot as well. Any others I'm missing?
If anyone knows where to find a g800m s5 mini let me know, I'll be buying! Lol

civicsr2cool said:
Well I've been living with the z5 compact for a few months and absolutely hate it. It's pretty much the only option out there right now but I still feel the s4 mini was a better phone. What have y'all come to decide on?
S7 mini is rumored, but will likely be large, xiamo mi5 mini will be perfect but no SD slot, HTC 10 mini is a rumor but probably too large with no SD slot as well. Any others I'm missing?
If anyone knows where to find a g800m s5 mini let me know, I'll be buying! Lol
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Well i would definitely like to go with samsung ( yes I love debloated touchwiz)mini dual sim flagships( s7 mini duos?!?), but alas! it looks most unlikely. Besides, 4.3"-4.5" screens with flagship specs are scarce/not available. On a brighter note ZUK Z2 looks promising, tough its 5" may be Mi5 mini if that comes out. Waiting.
Note: My ideal phone: 1)4.5" display( with max 5" dimension). 2) Dual sim with microsd (No hybrid sim tray). 3)Snapdragon 652(will reduce the price compared to 820) with Quick charge 3.0. 4)Weight: 140 gms max. 5)up to date Touchwiz Ui with with themes store. 6)Notification LED(RGB).

Finally got my hands on a G800M s5 mini a couple months ago after selling off my z5c. I like the form factor, the waterproofness, the speaker loudness, and resolution. all around a nice phone except for dev support, the s4 mini blows it away in that department. If you get a chance to find one snatch it up!(it took me two years of searching) I still daily the s4 mini though, and probably will be for a few more years.. Also Im going to be trying the ios10 out for the SE once jailbreak comes out.

i still have my s4 mini in a drawer parked aside, it was my main device but i recently upgraded to the nexus 5x and i just love it! but the s4 mini remains one of my favorite android phones ever used.

I came to the S4 Mini from the diminutive Xperia Ray (awesome LegacyXperia roms!), so the Samsung felt quite large initially. Now I look at the Ray, which still serves me well as an alarm clock, and it seems so small...I cannot believe I used it for web, mail, maps, etc.
The S4 Mini is a great little device, and made even better thanks to the sterling work from @arco68. Every so often I search the net for news of any new 4.3" phones with decent specs and good developer support, but of course nothing exists. I considered a Z3C before getting the S4 Mini, but was put-off by the limited official CM development, which I consider to be essential.
I remain hopeful that a manufacturer will one day launch a well-specked, modern, and truly mini phone that devs can get behind. However, until that happens I will happily stick with S4 Mini, which does everything I need and is just the right size.

My S4 mini suddenly died (surprise) and I found the Galaxy A3 pretty fit, I can type better for some reason and had almost everything for my unique setup (I prefer KK, need xposed and WPS WPA working). Obviously not the same in performance and development (not CM 11 for this) but was surprisely good.

hearkenoath said:
My S4 mini suddenly died (surprise) and I found the Galaxy A3 pretty fit, I can type better for some reason and had almost everything for my unique setup (I prefer KK, need xposed and WPS WPA working). Obviously not the same in performance and development (not CM 11 for this) but was surprisely good.
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the a3 is almost identical to the s5 mini except no 720p and waterproofness. no kit cm11 for the s5 mini either, Im a big kit kat fan as well

civicsr2cool said:
the a3 is almost identical to the s5 mini except no 720p and waterproofness. no kit cm11 for the s5 mini either, Im a big kit kat fan as well
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Me too, there's just something better with KK. Best compatibility with DonkeyGuard and Opera Mini Handler Hui (actually those two apps don't even run in Lollliopop). I just wish that the S5 mini had CM 11 and will fully switch

Fingers crossed the rumors of a Xiamoi Mi S turn out to be true...

What phone would you get next?

What phone would you next upgrade to if in the near future? Or would you keep your device for a little longer and wait for something better to come out?

RuffBuster said:
What phone would you next upgrade to if in the near future? Or would you keep your device for a little longer and wait for something better to come out?
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For now 3 phones appeal my eyes . Will look how it goes with price near holidays / black friday
Moto X Play : lots of +++ , 2 -- : problems with big lag in chrome / twitter app ( hope is software and will be fixed ) . Screen 5.5 is little big
Nexus 5x : 2 --- no dual sim, low battery
Lumia 950 : 1 big - : PRICE !!!

Most likely Moto G

I was hoping the S6 mini would be released by now, but not even sure they are gonna release one.... There's loads of budget Samsung ranges like E and J series plus others. I was maybe thinking Moto G 3rd gen 2gb ram or maybe a LG G3. Like to stick with a good name to get regular updates.

RuffBuster said:
I was hoping the S6 mini would be released by now, but not even sure they are gonna release one.... There's loads of budget Samsung ranges like E and J series plus others. I was maybe thinking Moto G 3rd gen 2gb ram or maybe a LG G3. Like to stick with a good name to get regular updates.
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There is no s6 mini. I was looking forward to it. Last month i bought galaxy alpha. With exception of battery life (bad), everything was great with that phone.
I sold it to my friend, so i have been using s4 mini since. Still looking for a sub 5-inch higher midrange phone. Hope we have one soon.
Nexus 5X seems to be dissappointing to some review guys. Terrible audio quality, less than average battery life and occasional UI lag are its problems.
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Most likely Moto G
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Hey @Mitko
It has been a while since you posted video on s4 mini archive.
I love that channel Hope you comeback if we get an android 6 rom.
Thanks. Cheers.

I wouldn't upgrade to Moto G because it's not much better than the S4 mini actually. My sister has an S4 mini, and my mother a Moto G, and the S4 mini with CM12 is not much slower than the moto G 2014. If you really want to upgrade, I'd spend some bucks. Moto X Play is i guess the best phone for casual users who don't want to spend $600 right now. I have upgraded to a Zenfone 2 and I'm loving it, and although it beats the moto X in raw processing power, it has a lot of drawbacks the moto X play doesn't, including worse battery life

Think I may be using the s4 mini for some time to come, with the hope something new comes out that covers all the bases. That or I'm going to be forced to take the 5" plunge and get a S6 when prices drop a bit more... Bah I personally think all these newer phones of 2015 are all lacking in some department and my wallet isn't that deep. Long live the s4 mini...

On the list posted up i forgot to add OnePlus 2 : with some - : price is a little higher, availability, and i am afraid with Os upgrades . For example Oneplus One is still on 5.0 not even on 5.1.1 .
I`m tired of no updates on S4 mini, i want latest and greatest not with custom roms
I want to take the phone out of the box, place sims and use the phone. No more kernels, rom modding , custom roms.

That's exactly what I'm after. No offense to devs as they work REALLY hard to bring us new things, but I want a device that is updated regularly by the phone manufacturer themselves. Especially security updates. I feel security is always 2nd to looks. Security is No. 1 these days. Android is quite buggy and unless you own the latest and greatest device your most likely open to a lot of security holes. The best for updates are nexus and Moto. Samsung though the biggest concern are SLOW to release updates and if at all in our case.... It's these things that are pushing me away from my favorite company Samsung, and is even making me to think of an iPhone, one pure ecosystem. That and custom roms though usually always faster always have a lot of bugs throughout their history. It's a difficult decision...

sasank360 said:
There is no s6 mini. I was looking forward to it. Last month i bought galaxy alpha. With exception of battery life (bad), everything was great with that phone.
I sold it to my friend, so i have been using s4 mini since. Still looking for a sub 5-inch higher midrange phone. Hope we have one soon.
Nexus 5X seems to be dissappointing to some review guys. Terrible audio quality, less than average battery life and occasional UI lag are its problems.
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Hey @Mitko
It has been a while since you posted video on s4 mini archive.
I love that channel Hope you comeback if we get an android 6 rom.
Thanks. Cheers.
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Hey! I know, right!
It's been a while indeed. My S4 mini started to get huge random battery drains accompanied by heat and screwing around with different roms, stock firmwares, kernels, and even a brand new battery couldn't solve the issue. I hope that the S4 mini will begin to receive CM13 builds - official or unofficial, as a last treat before it truly becomes an ancient 2013 phone. I just asked arco68 about the matter.

Xaomi MI4 looks good to me. If I can save money, I think I'll buy it.
Btw, @SilviuMik I agree with you. I want to latest and greatest updates without customroms. So maybe I can buy a xperia device. Sonny told to updated latest version of Android their some devices.
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Nope.
I would buy another S4 mini.. I can get them for $140 without subscription (Good thing!) here in Denmark (which is insanely cheap for Danish pricing), and it has one of the best communities ever here on XDA, as far as I can see.
It's definitely gonna be a samsung anyway, because I love Odin, and I wouldn't even dream about flashing another HTC. I own a Macbook, and I flashed an old HTC Desire yesterday, man it was ugly as hell. I ended up installing Windows 7 on an old computer just to get the random crap software working, as 8.1 and 10 didn't work and ... Omg you wouldn't believe how much of a pain in the ass it was! Took literally 11 hours straight with only a couple of lunch breaks. It did end up quite speedy on Android 2.3.1 tho, so it was worth it! I hate throwing old stuff out because of planned software obsolescence and forced upgrades because of (what I personally think is) artificial slowdowns. The phone works just fine, even with a couple of modern apps.
If any of you have any other recommendation for a good phone with lots of ROM's for it (that works just 95% of the time haha, I don't mind reinstalling every 3-4 weeks if I have too, it's not like I don't enjoy it..), I'm more than willing to hear you out! But for now I will stick with my S4 mini til something better comes up. Money isn't that much of an issue, as long as it's sub <$800 as I have a little voice in my head telling me to never spend the entire worth of a Macbook Air on a phone.

What concerns me is the lack of a powerful yet compact smartphone. I want to buy the S6 as prices have dropped slightly.
Also S6 has cm13 rom now.. so in a couple of months we can expect a stable cm13 and other related cm type roms. But battery
life on that phone is a problem. I can use a big phone but it should not have any flaws. Will wait and see if there are any good
phones coming out in next 1-2 months. Till then I will enjoy official CyanogenMod 13 nightlies....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...i9190-i9195-cyanogenmod-13-0-s4-mini-t3276141
LONG LIVE @arco68

Screen on my S4 mini broke, what would you suggest?

Hello all!
After a lot of hard use, the screen on my beloved S4 mini broke and are not usable..
I don't think its really worth buying a replacement screen for this old phone, but looking around on newer models, i feel like we are really lucky to have this great community and development still around.
If your phone broke what new one would you get? Or would you get a new s4 mini again? I mean, 8mp camera, low resolution screen... The specs for this phone are really bad, but the roms/development around it is just amazing it seems. And yea, i have been really happy with it the last 2.5+ years.
The other problem is that i dont really want a phone that is much bigger than this one currently is, as i think it has a great size..

Linkdk said:
Hello all!
After a lot of hard use, the screen on my beloved S4 mini broke and are not usable..
I don't think its really worth buying a replacement screen for this old phone, but looking around on newer models, i feel like we are really lucky to have this great community and development still around.
If your phone broke what new one would you get? Or would you get a new s4 mini again? I mean, 8mp camera, low resolution screen... The specs for this phone are really bad, but the roms/development around it is just amazing it seems. And yea, i have been really happy with it the last 2.5+ years.
The other problem is that i dont really want a phone that is much bigger than this one currently is, as i think it has a great size..
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it will depend on your financial stats , if i was in your place and my financial stat is lets say average or even a little better i would go for the S5 mini

Hedi.Karray said:
it will depend on your financial stats , if i was in your place and my financial stat is lets say average or even a little better i would go for the S5 mini
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Money is not the biggest problem really, but i dont want to give 1000$ for a flagship phone, because it's not worth it imo
Yea i looked at the s5 mini, but as far as i can tell, its not really much better. The resolution is a little better and then it features a quad core cpu. But the rest is pretty much the same, and its already 2+ years old
What about the Galaxy A3? is a little bigger (4.7"), but has some better specs. But it doesnt seem it much supported by rom builders.. Or maybe the Xperia Z5 compact, but its like double the price of the S5 mini.
I wish samsung had continued their Mini series..

Linkdk said:
Money is not the biggest problem really, but i dont want to give 1000$ for a flagship phone, because it's not worth it imo
Yea i looked at the s5 mini, but as far as i can tell, its not really much better. The resolution is a little better and then it features a quad core cpu. But the rest is pretty much the same, and its already 2+ years old
What about the Galaxy A3? is a little bigger (4.7"), but has some better specs. But it doesnt seem it much supported by rom builders.. Or maybe the Xperia Z5 compact, but its like double the price of the S5 mini.
I wish samsung had continued their Mini series..
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well there is no big difference between the s4 mini and the A3 only in screen size and CPU which is not something will make me personnaly want it , and nooooooooo stay away from the Xperia if you love custom roms and those stuff , they are so complicated and some of them even dont accept custom roms ( locked bootloader ) i decided to never own an xperia again in my life even for free
try looking in the Galaxy J there are some great phones too

Hedi.Karray said:
well there is no big difference between the s4 mini and the A3 only in screen size and CPU which is not something will make me personnaly want it , and nooooooooo stay away from the Xperia if you love custom roms and those stuff , they are so complicated and some of them even dont accept custom roms ( locked bootloader ) i decided to never own an xperia again in my life even for free
try looking in the Galaxy J there are some great phones too
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Hmm well the A3 has better screen, better cpu, better camera and better battery but it seems the battery is not removeable though.
Haha yea alright point taken about the xperia

the s4 mini is a good phone and it wins on more phones, i suggest you to replace the screen or to buy the new s4 mini plus

I was also considering a Z3 compact when seeing a replacement for my beloved Xperia Ray, but went for a refurbished S4 Mini. A great little phone, and excellent dev support (thanks to @arco68). I liked the sleek appearance of the A3, but it's bigger than the S4 Mini and Z Compacts.
Nice comparison tool here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...mpact,Samsung-Galaxy-A3/phones/7788,9611,8932
Cheers!

I'm also looking for a replacement. So far, I tried:
- Samsung S5 Mini - larger, pentile screen = text looks fuzzy, has GPS hardware issue
- Moto X 2013 - has 5.1 official, great screen, but: larger, software keys make usable space same as S4 Mini, no sd card, has radio standby bug
- Sony Z5 Compact - expensive, really blocky & heavy - not very compact when compared to all the others in list, software keys make usable space *less than* S4 Mini
- Samsung A3 2015 - larger & blockier, very light, nice materials, only Android 5.0 with probably no update, specs almost same as S4 Mini (Plus / VE)
- Samsung A3 2016 - even larger, pentile screen = text looks really fuzzy, worse than S4 Mini...
- Moto G LTE 2013 - larger, but ergonomic, heavy, Android 5.1, sd card, only 1 GB RAM & 8 GB space
So far, only A3 2015 & Moto G LTE 2013 are acceptable, but no real upgrades (apart from not being stuck on KitKat...).
There are other new phones similar in size with S4 Mini, but all are huge downgrades: Lenovo A1000, Samsung J1 Mini, chinese phones...
So far, staying with S4 Mini seems the only good option...

What about the S3 Mini
I have both the S3 and S4 Mini, I prefer the S3, S4 is stuck at 3G, also the S3 is a little smaller than S4, Just my humble opinion.

Keep s4 mini is best ever
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bjwx2 said:
I have both the S3 and S4 Mini, I prefer the S3, S4 is stuck at 3G, also the S3 is a little smaller than S4, Just my humble opinion.
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I also checked the S3 Mini as soon as it was released. Unfortunately, it was also pentile, and at that resolution it was very visible.

nick_white said:
So far, staying with S4 Mini seems the only good option...
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I know, right? It's crazy to think that our ~3 year old phone is still one of the best compact devices available.
I had hoped that the iPhone 5SE would encourage other manufacturers to release new <4.5" devices with modern specs. Every so often I check to see if any new, compact Android phones have been announced, but it seems 5.0" is considered the 'sweet spot' these days.
It's a shame the One Plus 3 Mini rumour was quashed - that would have made for a nice little device.
Cheers!

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I know, right? It's crazy to think that our ~3 year old phone is still one of the best compact devices available.
Cheers!
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Yea exactly. But my s4 mini is also getting a little 'boring' to look at, the same about the s5 mini, so i would like some other design. Sonys experia models looks pretty good, but they are all 5", like the xperia XA, it looks very good
If i chose to buy the galaxy A3, it would definitely be the 2016 edition

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- Samsung A3 2016 - even larger, pentile screen = text looks really fuzzy, worse than S4 Mini...
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what do you mean that the text looks 'fuzzy'? I went to the store to look at it yesterday, i think it looked pretty good

The font lines are zig-zagged instead of straight because the pixels "borrow" subpixels from the adjacent ones. It's not obvious to anyone. I mostly read PDFs and browse desktop versions of sites, so the text is small and uses few pixels, so it makes a huge difference to me. I compared the 2016 model to the 2015 one, and to S4 Mini side by side, and the new model was worse than both.

Still worthing buying it?

I really like this phone but I want to know your opinions about if is a good buy after one year released, specially considering I want to keep it for around 1.5 years..
I'm specially concerned about battery life, good software and updates or community development, ...
Also I wanted to ask this questions about the phone:
- is there any way for recording in 1080p 60 fps?
- can you drop screen resolution to 1080 for battery savings?
-Ok google with screen off drains much battery? (Most useful feature, in my Nexus 5x doesn't drain battery due to sensor hub)
I really love the phone but I'm not sure it still worthing it considering new phones like p10 and that maybe is not so big upgrade from Nexus 5x

-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.

Definitely worth buying!
I'm not having heat issues, and battery is fine considering that you can do a full charge in 1.5 hours. Camera is comparable with all the other flagships and beats many of them in many areas. Wifi is ok, never had issues that would made me consider it as "the worst thing".
It's a nice phone, very robust, and it should easily last for 1.5 years. Development/support for the phone is great and you can easily root it (which is essential nowadays for ensuring that you get the best out of your phone).

Worth buying but I'd probably get the pixel, you could wait for the S8 (if that's your thing)
Personally I'd wait for the HTC 11, I'm guessing it'll be a beast.
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If you can get a good deal then it definitely worth it. i doubt they will make a better device. i plan to keep using mine the next 2 years and never sell it. i am in love
To be fair the issues i am facing are,
Battery life can't get more than 4 hours SOT on very high usage.
very high battery drain when i go out, LTE Enabled + max brightness with normal usage.
carbon grey color scratch easily.

keaheng said:
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
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I don't have any of those problems. US unlocked. Good battery life. No "pink" screen. WiFi is superb. Running Viper10 3.5.0 with EX Kernel. Smooth and responsive. Does everything I want it to. I haven't seen any other phone I would upgrade to at this time. That's my $0.02 keep the change.

The phone is good and battery life exellent. Wifi could be better. But I miss security updates from HTC. No update since January.

I would suggest you to go for it, since prices are down, developer support is awesome lots of los+sense roms....perfromance is good (820 can be easily compared to 821), camera is decent enough my brother got s7 and we both click awesome pics....also with nougat voLTE is also there so worth buying it...

Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery

I recommend s7 edge...best battery ever...amoled screen...killer camera...good development

Javi22 said:
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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dladz said:
I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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Of course it's a capable device, just that I require a good battery life so I can use the phone as a smartphone, with everything enabled as I like, and it eats the battery so...
I don't like Samsung so I'll wait to see new htc however I don't think I get it because of the price. I will wait for a future one plus with smaller screen or a Huawei p10 when it drops its price
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I am debating about the same. I am still holding to my old M8 but the battery life is not so good and the top speaker is distorting the sound and I love my stereo front speakers. But I think I will wait for confirmation on the expected HTC 11 and see if it´s much better.
Once thing I am worried about is that we still don't even have a leak or rumor about the 11. Could it be that no 11 is coming and it´s vaporware?
Cheers

If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!

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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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Yes I'd guess so.
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I just bought a "mint" Verizon HTC 10 for only $395 from Swappa with S-OFF($25 already saved). Here is my list of factors when purchasing a phone:
I live in a Verizon only reliable area.
I will only use this type of phone: Rootable (with good development behind it), SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C
My backup LineageOS S5 is on it's last leg physically, really needed a new phone.
Prefer one handed phones.
Prefer OEM's that encourage unlocked bootloaders and rooting (HTC, LG, and OnePlus seem to be it)
Strongly prefer front facing stereo speakers.
Prefer IP68
Prefer OIS, with large megapixels (for low light)
Dislike glass phones (don't need wireless charging tradeoff for crackable back panels).
Dislike camera bumps
From that list, the Verizon HTC 10 EMEI activates easily on Verizon, is rooted, has SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C, 5.2 display (one handed), metal body, and OIS with large megapixelas, and is from a OEM that encourages the phone OS freedom.
The 3 things the HTC 10 fails to check for me are:
No IP68, but at least it's IP53.
No front facing stereo speakers, but at least it has 1 front facing tweeter with a sideways woofer to make BoomSound...better than most other phones on the market.
No camera bump, but I put cases on my phones anyways.

Got to ask you guys I'm undecided between the Huawei P10 or the HTC 10.. I've only had HTC's since back in the days of when they made the XDA's for O2 with Windows mobile.
Which phone would you choose.. so far the only thing I really like about the P10 is that it has 128GB of Memory and well the 6GB of Ram doesn't hurt either.

Finally I bought Xiaomi mi5s. But it happens that aosp/lineageos roms are great but camera quality and battery are much worse
And I refuse to use miui
So I'm thinking again about htc 10. My question is about roms. Since htc won't update software anymore, I would like to know if developers do the job...
I mean, are dev roms as good as stock roms? (I see it has offical support for great roms like Resurrection remix or Mokee
That would be the point for buying it or not

It also has official support for Lineage OS and they've announced it will get a stock android O update (which will probably come around January if history repeats itself). The developers are keeping up with security releases, so if that's your biggest concern then get a non-stock based rom and run with it. I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one downside to running non-stock based roms (AOSP or LOS based) is that you'll lose HDR on the camera.
For the record, I picked mine up last month. It's a Sprint model that I unlocked the sim and LTE bands on and am running it on T-Mobile.