Hi, I am looking for a thread on xda that is about knox and finding a way to reset the flash counter on the a5, so that I would be able to follow progression on that topic. I have been looking but I couldn't find one. Are developers working on that?
Sn0w0nS said:
Hi, I am looking for a thread on xda that is about knox and finding a way to reset the flash counter on the a5, so that I would be able to follow progression on that topic. I have been looking but I couldn't find one. Are developers working on that?
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Knox can NOT be changed back in any way.
You can only replace the board to get knox back
MaDaLiNoSt said:
Knox can NOT be changed back in any way.
You can only replace the board to get knox back
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Does that mean that it is certain that developers will never be able to find a way to reset knox like they did before on older galaxy's?
Sn0w0nS said:
Does that mean that it is certain that developers will never be able to find a way to reset knox like they did before on older galaxy's?
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Do a research about the new knox. It.s an e-fuse. Once that bit is burn on the emmc, it can.t be erased
However there might be at some point a kernel which spoof Knox. This won't reset warrznty but you'll at least br able to use things like pay
Ok, I have been looking for knox and e fuse and I totally understand now. To bad it is done this way.
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Hello,
Fairly new to android and rooting. Only rooted one phone (Dad's gs2 bc it had firmware and camera issues) but I was successful.
Using a virgin Galaxy S4 on tmobile since april only mild battery issues. Was waiting for uodate and shocked that we only get jellybean instead of 4.4 kitkat??!!
So question:
Upgrade and lock bc of KNOX and just wait?
OR
Dont upgrade and root and add kitkat now?
Is it worth the upgrade?
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KNOX doesn't lock your phone. Its builtin to the 4.3/4.4 bootloader and if you root or flash roms, it trips the flag and voids your warranty. That is all. If you don't care about the warranty, flash away. You can root your current firmware and flash the 4.3 or 4.4 roms that are on thr forums that have KNOX removed. I'm on 4.2.2 and Ive upgraded using flashable roms and came back without having to worry about KNOX
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Thanks, do you happen to have a link to a How to?
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95gsrturbo said:
Thanks, do you happen to have a link to a How to?
Galaxy s4 on Tapatalk
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That would be handy, as bouncing around the threads on the update and the initial ROMs being developed leaves a lot of questions and there are a number of soft bricked devices because of it.
Apparently, if you want to stay totally away from knox, you cannot simply flash the new radio as-is, as without having loaded the new knox bootloader, a number of functions will not work. And if you just flash the new OTA based ROMs, you can have problems also,
Work is being done to de-knox the radio, but I don't know where that stands. Nor am I sure if when that is done if you will be able to flash and use the new OTA ROMs and also revert to 4.2.2 without having to first revert to previous radio.
So again, a guide on living with knox would be helpful.
gaww said:
That would be handy, as bouncing around the threads on the update and the initial ROMs being developed leaves a lot of questions and there are a number of soft bricked devices because of it.
Apparently, if you want to stay totally away from knox, you cannot simply flash the new radio as-is, as without having loaded the new knox bootloader, a number of functions will not work. And if you just flash the new OTA based ROMs, you can have problems also,
Work is being done to de-knox the radio, but I don't know where that stands. Nor am I sure if when that is done if you will be able to flash and use the new OTA ROMs and also revert to 4.2.2 without having to first revert to previous radio.
So again, a guide on living with knox would be helpful.
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I'd like to know whether, if I upgrade to 4.3 using Kies (I'm on rooted 4.2 stock), I can re-root and remove Knox (as I've done in 4.2). I know I can re-root, and permanently void the warranty, but I don't know if Knox is removable in 4.3.
ubizmo said:
I'd like to know whether, if I upgrade to 4.3 using Kies (I'm on rooted 4.2 stock), I can re-root and remove Knox (as I've done in 4.2). I know I can re-root, and permanently void the warranty, but I don't know if Knox is removable in 4.3.
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If you upgrade to 4.3 via Kies you will trip KNOX if you change ANYTHING. Once it's tripped, you can't clear it.
The only way to avoid tripping the KNOX flag is to use a rom with KNOX removed
Can someone clarify something for me. Does having the 4.3 bootloader and knox 0x1 prevent you from flashing CM/GE/AOSP/Non-TW4.3+ ROMs? I've been staying on the old bootloader and am considering just updating. If the knox 0x1 only affects warranty and not flashing of any ROM I want, then I don't care if I have 0x1
95gsrturbo said:
Thanks, do you happen to have a link to a How to?
Galaxy s4 on Tapatalk
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Use the thanks button
Synergy510 said:
Can someone clarify something for me. Does having the 4.3 bootloader and knox 0x1 prevent you from flashing CM/GE/AOSP/Non-TW4.3+ ROMs? I've been staying on the old bootloader and am considering just updating. If the knox 0x1 only affects warranty and not flashing of any ROM I want, then I don't care if I have 0x1
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Only voids warranty afaik. Why not stick with the old bootloader and just flash new roms without the new knox bootloader? Best of both worlds.
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xdapowerapps said:
Only voids warranty afaik. Why not stick with the old bootloader and just flash new roms without the new knox bootloader? Best of both worlds.
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I was considering it only because I thought the new bootloader made a difference. Thanks for the reply
Synergy510 said:
I was considering it only because I thought the new bootloader made a difference. Thanks for the reply
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Np. In my honest opinion, this new bootloader is just another middle finger to the consumers under the false pretense of solidifying security measures for the few coorporations that have actual need for KNOX. This is Samsungs way of avoiding responsibility for failed hardware. Okay enough ranting lol. New bootloader serves only as a way to inform Samsung or the store you are returning to that your warranty is void.
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He put it in a better way:
Skipjacks said:
As for upgrading to 4.3 you do not need the 4.3 bootloader and you don't want it. It has a way to show that you've previously rooted the device that cannot (as of yet) be reset.
Just flash 4.3 ROMs in recovery. Anything you find in the development section will work fine. But if you want Wifi Calling you HAVE to use a T Mobile specific Touch Wiz ROM. You cannot use just any Touch Wiz ROM or any AOSP ROM at all.
If you want the T Mobile Wifi CAlling on the stock 4.3 rom and don't want all the other BS that comes with it, use this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546024
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xdapowerapps said:
Np. In my honest opinion, this new bootloader is just another middle finger to the consumers under the false pretense of solidifying security measures for the few coorporations that have actual need for KNOX. This is Samsungs way of avoiding responsibility for failed hardware. Okay enough ranting lol. New bootloader serves only as a way to inform Samsung or the store you are returning to that your warranty is void.
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Umm, many people with real jobs have security requirements for their mobile devices. KNOX has nothing to do with Samsung attempting to avoid responsibility for hardware failures. They have nothing to do with each other. Where did you get this BS from?
I guess it is the interwebs so people can make up anything they want.
xdapowerapps said:
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"Thanks button"???
:good:???
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jcbofkc said:
Umm, many people with real jobs have security requirements for their mobile devices. KNOX has nothing to do with Samsung attempting to avoid responsibility for hardware failures. They have nothing to do with each other. Where did you get this BS from?
I guess it is the interwebs so people can make up anything they want.
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I specifically stated in my first sentence that it is my personal opinion. I also stated that corporations do use KNOX but not to the extent that everyone needs to have it pushed out to them without a choice. Quit getting your panties in a bunch and learn to read.
xdapowerapps said:
I specifically stated in my first sentence that it is my personal opinion. I also stated that corporauselesso use KNOX but not to the extent that everyone needs to have it pushed out to them without a choice. because toing your panties in a bunch and learn to read.
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My panties are not in a bunch. KNOX has nothing to do with the samsung warranty in the case of hardware failure. Your opinion is useless if it is based on garbage. Make sure you know what you are talking about instead of making stuff up when giving advice.
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My panties are not in a bunch. KNOX has nothing to do with the samsung warranty in the case of hardware failure. Your opinion is useless if it is based on garbage. Make sure you know what you are talking about instead of making stuff up when giving advice.
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You're not reading anything I wrote and are living in your own bubble. Your arrogance precedes you. I've stated the facts and I've stated my opinion, if you can't connect two and two, you shouldn't be responding in the thread. Now kindly be quiet and bring the thread back to topic.
Is anyone working currently working on a solution to this catastrophe? I'm one of the unfortunate individuals that happened to acquire an S4 with this build preinstalled. Needless to say, I'm pissed.I'm curious as to if it's even possible to bypass Knox. I'd love to liberate my Galaxy from Touch Wiz and install a the official GE ROM.
I'm more interested in the updated LTE modem that seems to be tied into the 4.3 knoxed up bootloader since I'm still on 4.2.2.
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Is anyone working currently working on a solution to this catastrophe? I'm one of the unfortunate individuals that happened to acquire an S4 with this build preinstalled. Needless to say, I'm pissed.I'm curious as to if it's even possible to bypass Knox. I'd love to liberate my Galaxy from Touch Wiz and install a the official GE ROM.
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there is nothing to solve. you may install CWM/custom ROM as normal.
dcd1182 said:
there is nothing to solve. you may install CWM/custom ROM as normal.
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If you care about your warranty this may trip a counter "KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0X1" or something like that. But anyway, the part about voiding you warranty is a theory. In some cases I've read where a device was repaired in store with a simple re-flash of stock firmware, resetting the counter. Other cases have reported sending them in to either be fixed for free or sent a bill for tripping the counter. So the choice is your, just be informed of the concequences before you make your decision. This phone is damn near $700.
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If you care about your warranty this may trip a counter "KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0X1" or something like that. But anyway, the part about voiding you warranty is a theory. In some cases I've read where a device was repaired in store with a simple re-flash of stock firmware, resetting the counter. Other cases have reported sending them in to either be fixed for free or sent a bill for tripping the counter. So the choice is your, just be informed of the concequences before you make your decision. This phone is damn near $700.
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Exactly. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd prefer to keep my warranty intact as well as the resell value. By the time I'm ready to sell it, I'm sure people will start caring about having the manufacturer's warranty still intact.
dcd1182 said:
there is nothing to solve. you may install CWM/custom ROM as normal.
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The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
What build ? CM?
My S4 Is Insane
DEVIANT DEVELOPMENT MEMBER
aka_word said:
The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
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I was able to run CF-Autoroot after taking the update via Kies. I haven't installed Knox but I am on the MK2 bootloader. I don't believe it prevents root access...
aka_word said:
The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
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totally irrelevant.
re: gaining root
aka_word said:
The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
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I just wonder where you read that rumor. LOL
You must be google'ing way too much!
Misterjunky said:
I just wonder where you read that rumor. LOL
You must be google'ing way too much!
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This is drawn from my own experience.
Hey, as my Note II is still under warranty for a long time, I'm looking for a 100% sure way to root without my files getting lost and the KNOX counter going up.
Right now:
Fully stock Note II running 4.3 (N7100XXUEMJ9, updated via Kies)
What I want:
Rooted stock ROM and stock kernel, just to use apps that require root access.
Warranty not void
Thanks!
martinlink said:
Hey, as my Note II is still under warranty for a long time, I'm looking for a 100% sure way to root without my files getting lost and the KNOX counter going up.
Right now:
Fully stock Note II running 4.3 (N7100XXUEMJ9, updated via Kies)
What I want:
Rooted stock ROM and stock kernel, just to use apps that require root access.
Warranty not void
Thanks!
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you can look here.
i personally not tried it yet.
sora9009 said:
you can look here.
i personally not tried it yet.
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Wasn't the kingo thing found to be a malware of some sorts? I found that thread too but remembered from somewhere that it starts connecting to some chinese servers on its own or something...?
martinlink said:
Wasn't the kingo thing found to be a malware of some sorts? I found that thread too but remembered from somewhere that it starts connecting to some chinese servers on its own or something...?
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yeah and thats why im not using it yet.better safe than sorry mate..
sora9009 said:
yeah and thats why im not using it yet.better safe than sorry mate..
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking...
So currently, no "safe" way to root a 4.3 note II without raising KNOX counter, yeah?
martinlink said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking...
So currently, no "safe" way to root a 4.3 note II without raising KNOX counter, yeah?
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yup..
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yup..
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I have PM'd a few Mod's who had closed threads concerning rooting without tripping knox, who from their post history at least, looked like they where in on the discussion on whats going on.. Nothing back from any of them yet (even asked for direction to the proper thread to get updates)
Sadly, as the last thread I saw was closed on NOVEMBER 6th due to IMEI and HTTP concerns, there have been 4 new release's for the Kingo software, and yet I cannot find a single XDA thread (admittedly 20min~ is about my limit for the site search engine) about if any of those 4 updates resolved the issues XDA had with the root tool...
I desire to simply remove the bloatware, not void my damn warranty... screw you Samsung for disabling the DISABLE feature for BLOATware...
Hello !
I just updated to stock DDUEML4 (baseband : DDEMK1). Everything works fine but the downloading/odin mode displays Warranty Void : 1 which is probably because of KNOX I'm unable to find any solution on the web to go back to non-KNOX rom and remove the counter. Please help !
ankurverma said:
Hello !
I just updated to stock DDUEML4 (baseband : DDEMK1). Everything works fine but the downloading/odin mode displays Warranty Void : 1 which is probably because of KNOX I'm unable to find any solution on the web to go back to non-KNOX rom and remove the counter. Please help !
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If it's Knox counter, there is NO way to remove it....
Yes it is
dalanik said:
If it's Knox counter, there is NO way to remove it....
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Yes its a KNOX counter. I read somewhere that downgrading the bootloader removes KNOW, but for now I'm not going to try that as I might even brick my phone
This topic has been discussed and discussed and discussed. We have ABSOLUTELY no need for another topic. If you want to discuss it do it in one of the other topics instead of creating a new one expecting different answers.
TheATHEiST said:
This topic has been discussed and discussed and discussed. We have ABSOLUTELY no need for another topic. If you want to discuss it do it in one of the other topics instead of creating a new one expecting different answers.
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Yes I know.
There's a post by Dr.ketan to remove knox by downgrading the bootloader, but not sure whether it would work for my ddueml4 rom.
But I'm thinking to root and install a custom 4.3 rom.
Hi devs! Here i'm asking that is there a suitable version available of t"try angle away" app for sm-a520f, to reset the flash counter? Sorry if it is being discussed somewhere, i didn't find by searching. I'm a new owner of a5-2017, so i need this to safeguard my warranty.
Abdullah5490 said:
Hi devs! Here i'm asking that is there a suitable version available of t"try angle away" app for sm-a520f, to reset the flash counter? Sorry if it is being discussed somewhere, i didn't find by searching. I'm a new owner of a5-2017, so i need this to safeguard my warranty.
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No, it doesn't work any more.
Then, any new method to reset flash counter, to get warranty back on sm-a520f?
ashyx said:
No, it doesn't work any more.
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Then, any new method to reset flash counter, to get warranty back on sm-a520f?
Abdullah5490 said:
Then, any new method to reset flash counter, to get warranty back on sm-a520f?
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Unfortunately not.