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Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.
Unrevoked will root the phone along with installing custom recovery by a nand exploit.
But alpharevx neither roots the phone nor installs custom recovery. It turns off the nand security to make rooting (+ installing custom recovery) easier. So if you made s-off with alpharevx, then you need to root and install custom recovery on your own (which are very easy)..
And you dont need to downgrade with an RUU. Just go with this link..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15226717&postcount=68 .
Also check the complete wildfire index thread from dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318 .
Edit: oh.. didn't get you clearly. Looks like you have custom recovery installed. Anyway, you can check the above link for rooting. And to install custom roms, you just need cwm recovery installed. Downgrade from 2.2.1 to 2.1 (using RUU) is not necessary in any case. And to root your stock rom just use superone click root method or gingerbreak.apk or you can also install Su binary (= rooting) from cwm recovery. And you dont need to root a custom Rom because custom roms will be already rooted. Another thing you need to remember is some roms need cwm version 2.x while others need cwm version 3.x or above. You need to shift between recoveries according to that need . On how to do that, check the index thread.
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Flash Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod. There's absolutely no need to use any RUU / Unrevoked if you have got Clockworkmod Installed.
Download SU Binary here:
http://bit.ly/su2361ef
Flash, and check for root again. This will give you a rooted Stock ROM.
Alternatively, if you just want to change ROMs , you dont need to be "rooted". Just a Custom Recovery like Clockworkmod will do. So, if that's your ultimate goal, just flash the new ROM. Again, dont touch RUUs/Unrevoked.
Thank you, both for clearing that up. I must say the sticky post is way way over complicated and dead wrong on the process. Since it's a sticky it needs to get cleaned up by someone who knows about it.
It's not a sticky actually. (I assume you are referring to this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145035)
I posted my views there but everyone seems happy with that, so whatever suits the individual I guess.
I have posted an overview of the process here (This is a sticky thread, so I kinda hope you are not referring to this one ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
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micnolmad said:
Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.
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Hi, I have the same problem as micnolmad.
I'm running wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.01.1002
I used AlphaRev to get S-OFF, and change from HBOOT 1.01.0002.
I thought it was meant to convert HBOOT to 1.01.0001, but for some reason it's now 6.01.1002. Not sure if this is important? At least the phone's now S-OFF, which should enable rooting?
However, booting into HTC sense, rom manager syays I do not have root!
I have clockwork 3.0.0.6 but when I use it to install cyanogen 7.0.3, the installation says successful, and then freezes on start up.
Any ideas?
Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.
Scratch0805 said:
Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.
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Hi, I wiped Data, cache, Dalvik Cache, and have superuser and CWM v4.0.14 installed. On flashing cyanogen mod 7 ROM it installs successfully, but freezes on bootup?
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Im comming from a Nexus 4. At this moment i am using stock rom with s-on on my international htc one m8. Only thing i did is rooting it and flashed a custom recovery from philz. Now my question is, how can i update to the newest firmware. It is a bit complicated compared to the nexus 4, so i dont want to do anything wrong. Ive red about relocking the bootloader and some orher stuff, but dont get it. I would appreciate any help and info i can get.. i put a screenshot of my current setup..
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When you say "firmware" do you just mean the Android software version? If so, just flash in recovery a stock rooted ROM, or custom ROM based on the newer software. No need to mess with relocking the bootloader to install an official OTA update or RUU. In my opinion, here is little to no good reason to install official updates on a modded/rooted phone.
Reason I ask the first question above, many of the folks here refer to "firmware" as the other modules deployed with the OS, including hboot, radio, and other media modules. Flashing this is still possible on a modded device, just a little different.
redpoint73 said:
When you say "firmware" do you just mean the Android software version? If so, just flash in recovery a stock rooted ROM, or custom ROM based on the newer software. No need to mess with relocking the bootloader to install an official OTA update or RUU. In my opinion, here is little to no good reason to install official updates on a modded/rooted phone.
Reason I ask the first question above, many of the folks here refer to "firmware" as the other modules deployed with the OS, including hboot, radio, and other media modules. Flashing this is still possible on a modded device, just a little different.
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Thanks for the answer. by updating the firmware i mean the complete software, just like we get it OTA. The nexus was peace of cake, just install thr new rom and radios and you were done. But this htc thing needs some practicing i think.
soylukral said:
Thanks for the answer. by updating the firmware i mean the complete software, just like we get it OTA. The nexus was peace of cake, just install thr new rom and radios and you were done. But this htc thing needs some practicing i think.
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That part is not much different with the M8. If you want a new ROM, just flash a stock rooted ROM or custom in recovery. If you want a new radio, just get it from the following thread and flash it. Only difference, if you need S-off. so look for either firewater or sunshine s-off method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
Yes, you can install the "complete" firmware package (search around and you will find them, usually flashed with fastboot/adb). But these are usually not necessary. If a ROM requires a newer firmware package, it will be discussed in that ROM thread.
redpoint73 said:
That part is not much different with the M8. If you want a new ROM, just flash a stock rooted ROM or custom in recovery. If you want a new radio, just get it from the following thread and flash it. Only difference, if you need S-off. so look for either firewater or sunshine s-off method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
Yes, you can install the "complete" firmware package (search around and you will find them, usually flashed with fastboot/adb). But these are usually not necessary. If a ROM requires a newer firmware package, it will be discussed in that ROM thread.
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So what i understand is, as long as you stay stock rooted, you can update with a stock rooted rom without having s-off. Am i right? What i dont understand is that they are talking about you cant update from 4.4.2 1.54 to 4.4.3 2.22 without relocking your bootloader..
soylukral said:
So what i understand is, as long as you stay stock rooted, you can update with a stock rooted rom without having s-off. Am i right? What i dont understand is that they are talking about you cant update from 4.4.2 1.54 to 4.4.3 2.22 without relocking your bootloader..
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You seem to be talking about 2 different things.
If you are talking about updating (flashing) a stock rooted ROM, that would be a user created ROM posted here in Development. If that is the case, you can flash whatever ROM you want from Development while S-on.
But if you are talking about installing official OTA updates, you need to relock your bootloader with s-on; and you also need to revert to stock recovery. You can flash these with the bootloader unlocked with S-off (stock recovery is still required). The other catch is, that if you change or remove any system files while rooted, an OTA will not install.
My opinion is not to install OTAs on a rooted phone. Its extra steps and extra hassle (relocking bootloader, re-installing stock recovery). Plus, you never know what exploits have been patched with the new OTAs. For instance, the more recent hboots plugged the firewater s-off. Its a much better idea to just flash stock rooted or custom ROMs posted in Development, as they often get updated very quickly to the new software versions anyway. And that is what XDA is all about, anyway.
redpoint73 said:
You seem to be talking about 2 different things.
If you are talking about updating (flashing) a stock rooted ROM, that would be a user created ROM posted here in Development. If that is the case, you can flash whatever ROM you want from Development while S-on.
But if you are talking about installing official OTA updates, you need to relock your bootloader with s-on; and you also need to revert to stock recovery. You can flash these with the bootloader unlocked with S-off (stock recovery is still required). The other catch is, that if you change or remove any system files while rooted, an OTA will not install.
My opinion is not to install OTAs on a rooted phone. Its extra steps and extra hassle (relocking bootloader, re-installing stock recovery). Plus, you never know what exploits have been patched with the new OTAs. For instance, the more recent hboots plugged the firewater s-off. Its a much better idea to just flash stock rooted or custom ROMs posted in Development, as they often get updated very quickly to the new software versions anyway. And that is what XDA is all about, anyway.
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sorry about asking this many questions but, the main thing is that i want to update to the latest released software 4.4.3 2.22. can you discribe me the steps i have to follow. because im sorry but it is still not 100% clear. believe me i flashed many many roms kernels tweaks and lots of other stuff, but comming from a nexus device this is a nightmare.
soylukral said:
sorry about asking this many questions but, the main thing is that i want to update to the latest released software 4.4.3 2.22. can you discribe me the steps i have to follow. because im sorry but it is still not 100% clear. believe me i flashed many many roms kernels tweaks and lots of other stuff, but comming from a nexus device this is a nightmare.
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i was looking at ARHD 10.1 with the latest 4.4.3 2.22 software, can i just flash this over my stock rooted 4.4.2 1.54?
soylukral said:
sorry about asking this many questions
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No worries, that is what this forum is for!
One thing I was not fully aware of, while ARHD will flash just fine over your stock ROM; folks seem to be having trouble with Android 4.4.3 (software 2.22) based ROMs and old "firmware" (reference Post #2, paragraph 2 above). This includes issues with no sound (which I suspect the "media" module within the firmware package is the culprit).
So if you want to flash a 2.22 based ROM, it looks like you need to S-off and flash the firmware package before flashing ARHD. Details on flashing the firmware package can be found by reading the ARHD thread, or also (more easily) by referring to Section 3 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727/post53807690
Updating the "firmware" package is often not needed to just flash a custom ROM. This happens to be one of the exceptions.
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No worries, that is what this forum is for!
One thing I was not fully aware of, while ARHD will flash just fine over your stock ROM; folks seem to be having trouble with Android 4.4.3 (software 2.22) based ROMs and old "firmware" (reference Post #2, paragraph 2 above). This includes issues with no sound (which I suspect the "media" module within the firmware package is the culprit).
So if you want to flash a 2.22 based ROM, it looks like you need to S-off and flash the firmware package before flashing ARHD. Details on flashing the firmware package can be found by reading the ARHD thread, or also (more easily) by referring to Section 3 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727/post53807690
Updating the "firmware" package is often not needed to just flash a custom ROM. This happens to be one of the exceptions.
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thanks anyway, you did help me get wiser. what i understand is that S-OFF is a must have to be that free as on the nexus 4. i will look further. thanks again..
soylukral said:
thanks anyway, you did help me get wiser. what i understand is that S-OFF is a must have to be that free as on the nexus 4. i will look further. thanks again..
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S-off is usually not needed to flash a ROM itself. But yes, its a must if you want to flash radio, hboot, firmware packages, and some other things.
Hi All,
I have a UK HTC One M8, rooted, S-off, and with ViperOne installed, an old version - 1.8.0
I have flashed a new firmware in order to update ViperOne, and I have lost root access. I used root checker app to verify.
I used this method to flash the firmware:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696282
I obtained the firmware from here: http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.co.uk/p/android-revolution-hd-mirror-site-var.html
I had changed the cid to supercid, as I am S-off, and i checked that the modelid was correct in "android-info.txt"
The flash went fine, no errors, phone turned on first time, but root access is lost.
This thread I just found says that upgrading the firmware will always cause you to lose root. This is surprising as it wasn't mentioned in any of the guides I read to flashing firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417442
I was wondering if somebody knowledgeable could reassure me that everything is fine, and perhaps point me to the most appropriate method for getting root access back. I am a little out of my depth here, I learned how to do most of this stuff a year ago when i first rooted, but I haven't been back to update since then, and have forgotten a lot of what I learned before.
Would appreciate any assistance you can offer
Cheers
Will
Willr01 said:
This thread I just found says that upgrading the firmware will always cause you to lose root. This is surprising as it wasn't mentioned in any of the guides I read to flashing firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417442
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Different device manufacturers do things in very different ways, so I wouldn't take that thread to mean anything, one way or another, regarding losing root when updating firmware. I also think in that thread, they may be talking about firmware = ROM (as opposed to something very different on HTC devices). In which case, yes, installing a stock ROM will in fact usually remove root on most Android devices.
In any case, see if you still have TWRP installed. That depends on whether the firmware package was modified or not to remove the stock recovery. If TWRP was replaced by stock recovery, simply install TWRP again using your method of choice (personally I prefer installing by fastboot). Then download the SuperSU zip to your phone from here and flash in TWRP.
In reality, I think you may not even have to download SuperSU. If you boot into TWRP and select reboot, I believe TWRP will automatically sense your ROM is not rooted, and ask you if you want it to do so. But I'm not 100% on that, and the SuperSU method is a sure thing.
Thanks a lot for your input. I don't have a recovery installed, so I have tried to flash twrp.
I tried flashing it twice, after reading it can be necessary to do that, and erasing the cache before attempting to boot to recovery. When I try and enter recovery, I get stuck on the startup htc screen with "Entering Recovery..." in pink.
Snippets off other threads have suggested my hboot might not be compatible with the new version of twrp. Is it straightforward to update hboot?
Thanks in advance
Willr01 said:
Snippets off other threads have suggested my hboot might not be compatible with the new version of twrp. Is it straightforward to update hboot?
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Updating your firmware updates the hboot. 3.19 is the current hboot, and you can check no the bootloader screen.
Make sure its a current version TWRP (2.8.7.0) and I think the opposite is also true (old versions of TWRP don't work with current hboot).
And to clarify, you want to fastboot erase cache, then flash TWRP; as this often clears up issues with TWRP not installing properly.
redpoint73 said:
Updating your firmware updates the hboot. 3.19 is the current hboot, and you can check no the bootloader screen.
Make sure its a current version TWRP (2.8.7.0) and I think the opposite is also true (old versions of TWRP don't work with current hboot).
And to clarify, you want to fastboot erase cache, then flash TWRP; as this often clears up issues with TWRP not installing properly.
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So my hboot is 3.16, and the twrp was the latest version. I guess i need to find a more up to date firmware file. Any suggestions as to the best sources for firmware?
Willr01 said:
So my hboot is 3.16, and the twrp was the latest version. I guess i need to find a more up to date firmware file. Any suggestions as to the best sources for firmware?
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What exactly did you flash from the Android Revolution website (what you linked in the top post)?
That website has up-to-date firmware, but what you want is 4.xx version firmware, found under the "Firmware collection" link on that webpage.
Since your hboot number is 3.16, you either did not properly flash a firmware (flashed something else) or flashed a really old firmware (hboot 3.16 corresponds to firmware version 1.xx).
Hi guys, so the owner wiped everything from the phone and he want it back to stock now
S-ON and no custom recovery installed,
I've googled for a method to turn S-OFF but they all require a rooted ROM. what to do?
thanks in advance.
I have answered how to s-off and root Desire HD before in many threats.You can see this post.
You can also check here a newest guide.In this guide as I think you are installing a prerooted rom instead of unlocking bootloader with htc_devs unlock and flashing custom recovery to root the device.
You can check an other helpful guide here.
hey. i am going to install twrp, root my device, unlock bootloader, install custom rom. do i need s-off for this? or i can do it with s-on? thanks
You only need to unlock the bootloader at htcdev.com, flash twrp and then you know what to do
First make sure you have latest firmware(4.xx.SKU.xx).
Asked and answered.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74385561&postcount=1868
Please don't create duplicate threads or posts.
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Magnum_Enforcer
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