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Maybe this is an ignorant question. Maybe my search skills have failed me. When I had my Fuze I had the camera set up to take excellent pictures for being taken by a cell phone. ill include a couple pictures taken from both phones for comparison. what im looking for is some advice on settings to use to get better pictures. im running energy rom (built nov 27 09 on OS 5.2.21877) if it matters any. Thanks guys.
From my Fuze:
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The two photos were taken in very different light. To make a valid comparison, get two photos with similar lighting.
A photo taken in low light makes the photo sensor "work harder" - slower shutter speeds, boosting the signal gain, etc - that's what's going on in your TP2 photo. You can see it in the smeared headlights (indicates long exposure) and the signal noise (colored blotches) in the sky.
(This is true of even high-end digital SLR cameras. I'm a semi-pro photographer, and have been dealing with such issues for years now.)
Using a tool called Opanda IEXIF, I can see the EXIF data for the TP2 photo indicates 1/21 of a second exposure (pretty long) and sensitivity setting of ISO 600 (pretty high). There is no valid exposure data in the EXIF for the Fuze photo. Judging from the lighting conditions, I'd guess that it might have been around 1/500 of a second at ISO 200.
HTH,
Mike

Ok I guess what i need help with is some general explanation of the settings. obviously a evening picture and midafternoon day will always come out different even on the same camera. basically on the TP2 they are always grainy regardless of whether its set on basic, fine, ultra fine etc. what are the different ISO options? im assuming that would have to do with shutter speed? i have it set to auto on TP2 so maybe thats where I need to look into making adjustments?

Well ... ISO and shutter speed are separate settings that work together to determine the exposure.
ISO is a setting that deals with the photo sensor's (CCD's) sensitivity to light. Higher ISO numbers make the CCD more sensitive by amplifying the electronic signal from each pixel. Unfortunately, it also boosts the electronic noise, so you'll get more of those colored blotches (digital noise) as you increase ISO.
For the best quality (ie - lowest digital noise) photos, keep the ISO as low as possible. But also understand the trade-off (longer shutter speed).
Lower ISO sensitivity means longer shutter speeds to make up for a less sensitive CCD, and vice versa.
I don't see a way with the TP2 to set the shutter speed. So what's happening is that the camera circuitry is trying to find the best balance it can between low ISO and fast shutter speed. The only way you can really influence it is to take ISO off the Auto setting - your choices are 100, 200, 400, 800. (in photography terms, each doubling of ISO is equivalent to one f/stop of exposure sensitivity. ISO 800 is 3 f/stops more sensitive than ISO 100).
I almost never use my phone for photos, but I'd leave mine on Auto ISO, Quality Fine, Image Properties (Contrast/Saturation/Sharpness) to taste, Metering Mode: Center Area.
I'm not familiar with the image processing logic in the TP2, but I think the Superfine Quality might introduce "JPEG artifacts" into your photos - funny looking "squiggles" in a clear blue sky, for example. Try it and see. You can always dial it back to Fine.
I find that Auto White Balance pretty much sucks with cell phone cameras. If you can manually set your white balance to match the light you're shooting in (daylight, tungsten, flourescent, etc), your colors will be better.

ISO is sensor sensitivity, so the lower the ISO the better quality pic, but requires more light, higher ISOs will work better in low light, but more noise will ensue, such as in your 2nd pic

ok most pictures i take are either in sunlight or indoors. obviously i also like to get some sunsets if im in a good location. any suggestions? both of you have been helpful so far so THANKS!!

bmc357374 said:
ok most pictures i take are either in sunlight or indoors. obviously i also like to get some sunsets if im in a good location. any suggestions? both of you have been helpful so far so THANKS!!
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Sunsets. Hoo boy, now you're getting into dynamic range of the CCD. The difference between the lightest and darkest parts of the photo.
I'd go for lowest ISO possible (100), daylight white balance, try to get a good exposure for the sky and just understand that you won't get any detail in the foreground - just black silhouettes. Usually when you see a sunset photo with good exposure in the sky and the foreground, the photographer used Photoshop to combine two photos.
Try to brace the phone/camera as you shoot, to reduce camera shake with slow shutter speeds. Set the bottom edge of the phone on a flat surface or something like that.

yeah generally i have it braced on a flat surface that will keep it good and steady. given that it is in fact still a phone, im not looking for perfect pictures just something decent. I dont like keeping a high dollar digital camera with me at all times for those shots that just have to be captured due to crime in the area.again i thank you guys.

leave the settings alone if you dont understand them. just knock the plastic cover off the camera. take a pic with your battery cover on and off. you ll see a huge difference. that damn plastic gets dirty easily.

xcesivemastub8ah said:
leave the settings alone if you dont understand them. just knock the plastic cover off the camera. take a pic with your battery cover on and off. you ll see a huge difference. that damn plastic gets dirty easily.
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yeah except the thing is...im trying to LEARN the settings. huge difference between just taking pictures and wanting to learn what things mean and do.

[Q] Camera guide?

Where can I find a guide or tips for taking best pictures with our Z ?
I especially care about macro photos.
My old sony ericsson c702 with 3mp did way better photos

More light, no flash, and do not zoom. Just my experience.

I don't know of a guide, and I don't do a lot macro photography in particular, but I can give some general tips. I don't even consider myself much of an amateur photographer, much less any kind of expert. But I know a thing or two about general photography, that IMO make a big difference, and a couple tips useful for the G2/Vision in particular.
1) First and foremost, get some basic understanding of how cameras work. IMO this is the number one reason for crappy pictures perpetrated by the huge majority of people with digital cameras. In particular, learn about the exposure triangle. http://www.digital-photography-school.com/learning-exposure-in-digital-photography. You don't have control over aperture and shutter speed on this phone, but knowing what they are, and how they affect your photo is essential to knowing why a photo turns out good or bad (and how to make more of them "good"). You do have control over ISO, so get some understanding of what ISO means (which leads to the tip 2).
2) Set ISO and White Balance manually, if you have time. I know its an inconvenience to change these for each different environment. But if you have time to do it, it really helps. Keeping these on "auto" seems to extend the amount of time it takes for the image to be captured and leads to more motion blur (presumably, since the AI is taking time to do light readings and calculating the "best" settings). Also the settings it comes up with are not always very good, for instance the phone misreads the light type sometimes, and comes up with funky white balance settings.
Use as low an ISO as possible but still controlling motion blur. Higher ISO leads to more noise (analogous to grainier photos with film). But using too low an ISO forces the shutter to be open longer (to let enough light in to capture the image), which increases the chance of motion blur from either the subject moving, or camera shake. Its a matter of finding a balance between the two.
With lots of sunlight, or even partial sunlight, use a low ISO. 100 or 200 is often more than sufficient for daytime photos outside, even on a cloudy day. Indoors, you will have to increase the ISO much higher. Obviously depends on how many lamps are around, and how bright they are. But artificial lighting is much less bright than sunlight than you think. I often go to ISO 800 inside my house (when no sunlight is coming through the windows).
3) As mentioned in the previous reply, avoid flash. Flash is ok for the moments where you absolutely need to capture the shot in a low light "spur of the moment" situation. But for most situations, no flash with high ISO looks vastly better. The flash bathes the subject in a ghastly artificial LED light, overexposes the foreground, and causes the whole background to be underexposed. Just horrible. No flash and high ISO means the shutter will be open longer. But as long as the subject is not moving too much, and you keep the camera still enough, you will get a much nicer photo.
You'll notice that professional photographers will almost always use separate sources of light, or an off-camera flash, and seldom the on-camera flash. The on-camera flash on most all cameras are bad, and in particular the tiny flash units on camera phones are awful.
I heard of a study, where people were polled after viewing a set of Match.com type profile photos. Overwhelmingly, people indicated that the pics taken without flash looked younger and more attractive than the ones taken with flash. Despite the fact that some of the photos were of the same person!
4) Also as mentioned in the previous reply, the more light the better. From the last 2 tips, this would seem obvious. But there is a lot more subtlety to this than most people realize. Simply shifting the angle of the camera, or changing your position by a few feet can greatly influence how much light is entering the lens. One good example is light sources behind the subject, especially windows during daytime. Too much bright light from the background will make the subject underexposed and dark. Getting windows out of the frame of the photo can turn a throw-away shot into a real keeper.
Don't take for granted that cameras work the same way your eyes do, because they don't. Remember the exposure triangle, and use it to your advantage.
5) Brace your camera when possible, to reduce camera shake (especially in low light). In absence of a tripod, be inventive. Prop your elbows on a table, or even put the camera on the table, if you can do so without the table being in the shot. If there is a wall or column nearby, put the side of the camera against it as a brace.
6) Tap the screen to focus. Most of us with Sense know about this feature, but don't use it as much as we should. Aside from portraits, the rule of thirds (http://fixaphoto.homestead.com/digitalcameratips.html) says the best composition often results from the subject not being in the center of the shot. Therefore, since the "normal" auto-focus of pressing the shutter button halfway is center weighted, its sometimes not going to focus on the subject. So tap the screen on the subject before you take the shot. You often won't need to do this, but it can help sometimes.
7) You can force the exposure darker or brighter in Menu>Image adjustments, if you just can't seem to get the exposure right for a given ISO. One example is taking night photos, where you want to focus on streetlights or headlights. The shutter will stay open a long time, and the image will often look much brighter than you intend (and brighter than how you see it with your eyes). You can force it darker by changing the exposure. Again, not something you will often need, but once in a while can make a huge difference.
8) Practice practice practice. Every one of the tips above requires lots of practice and experimentation. With digital cameras, you really can take as many pictures as you like. You're going to end up with a ton of photos to delete. But this is really the only way to learn.
The camera on our phone certainly is not the best. The largest complaint seems to be that HTC phones over-process and create too much noise in the photo. But with the proper technique, it can take decent photos. Hopefully my tips are helpful.

Thanks !!!
Thats a very good guide
My pics are already looking better and I am still testing some options!
here: Maybe I will post some quick resoults
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HiCZoK said:
Thanks !!!
Thats a very good guide
My pics are already looking better and I am still testing some options!
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Cool. Glad it helped.
Which tips are you finding most useful so far?

I am not using flash too much or at all.
Iso at auto - it seems to do a good job
Expousure -1 or even -2 in some situations
contrast and saturation defauly
Sharpness -2 and only sometimes -1
Touch focus
Also sense camera filters are really good! i like depth of field filter with circe which You can use for showing where image point of view should be centering. Kinda artificial focus.

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 3's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

sucks on this department when compared to those of samsung, iphone or nexus 6p, but is alright... average at best.

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did well at low light
took in my trip, 6p.m with auto, no flash and auto hdr

Low light video (fireworks)

even my old xperia Z3, with all the bad feedback that the camera had, takes better photos in low light conditions.

I'm noticing a pink cast on the corners (worse on the lower right) when trying to take low-light indoors shots.
There's an example which shows what I'm talking about (I made an extreme exposure on purpose in order to make the cast stand out, but you can clearly see it during live preview before taking the shot).
Is my unit defective? Please tell me I'm not the only one

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I'm noticing a pink cast on the corners (worse on the lower right) when trying to take low-light indoors shots.
There's an example which shows what I'm talking about (I made an extreme exposure on purpose in order to make the cast stand out, but you can clearly see it during live preview before taking the shot).
Is my unit defective? Please tell me I'm not the only one
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Pretty sure I have that too. Only visible when using extreme exposure.

Fatherboard said:
I'm noticing a pink cast on the corners (worse on the lower right) when trying to take low-light indoors shots.
There's an example which shows what I'm talking about (I made an extreme exposure on purpose in order to make the cast stand out, but you can clearly see it during live preview before taking the shot).
Is my unit defective? Please tell me I'm not the only one
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This should be high iso values. Next time try change to manual mode and put iso manually.

I know what I'm saying - leave the iso as it is (auto) and play with the shutter speed - between 1/250 and higher the pink cast should be at its peak (given the situation you're indoors).

Check this out. Photo was taken around 10PM at a camping night. I'm happy about it's camera performance. But lowlight crowded scenes could get blurry. I would rate lowlight camera performance for OnePlus3 8/10 if he S7edge gets 10/10.
Neither too good nor too bad.

I think this camera is pretty good in low light. I got some nice (for phone camera) shots using manual settings. First one is taken at midnight, no lights but the moon. Second one from fishing pier, I couldn't even see houses on the beach with my eyes, but sensor actually caught it. Third one is full moon and bioluminescent ocean.
These are all taken without any artificial light. I think this camera has potential.

Just nice..
Manual mode, iso 400, 0.5-1 s shutter speed.. No edit.. Just stock camera..

IMHO low light photos are amazingly good. Much, much better than my old OP2. Here is an example. Deep night with medium city lights.
Auto mode with HQ

can anyone here perhaps explain in simple terms how to use manual mode, in particular ISO?
I use manual mode sometimes but the only thing I change is exposure time in order to get more light into photos in low light scenarios, but I see others modifying ISO as well and I'm not sure why or why not to do that

The higher the iso, the lighter the picture.
But at the same time a higher iso means more noise.
If possible without shaking the phone it is always better to shoot at the lowest iso
and use a longer shutter speed.

2x4 said:
can anyone here perhaps explain in simple terms how to use manual mode, in particular ISO?
I use manual mode sometimes but the only thing I change is exposure time in order to get more light into photos in low light scenarios, but I see others modifying ISO as well and I'm not sure why or why not to do that
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Do not worry about iso if you are not shooting a quick object. Like moving thing. Just adjust shutter speed and let the camera adjust other settings. Find out maximum exposure time you can get without a tripod. Play with E. Time to get the best out of night photos. Increase iso incase of you want to capture quick shot. It would be grainy, but less motion blur. :good:

Usually blurry mess, totally unacceptable. Sure manual settings + tripod, you can make artistic shots, but in day to day use, this camera (or the algorhytms behind) is total rubbish

its (much) worse than my previous Nexus 5x.
People here using manual settings are just kidding us.
I appreciate a good manual mode but auto performance is what i want and 1+3 fails miserably here. Night shots are terrible, my 5x (same sensor with Nexus 6p) beats it by a large margin.

Well. It's definitely better than the iPhone 7 and 6S camera that's for sure. I was shocked to see how poor it's low light performance was.

manual mode works well on oneplus 3...........you just need to keep it on timer

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the ZTE Axon 7's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Low-light is horrible picture
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Second is made with s7 edge
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Disappointed here, but I knew this was an issue going in. Not as bad as some phones I've had though, but should be better.

I wonder what the chances are that this can be fixed with software updates... as everyone says, the low-light pics are the only real camera problem

question are you doing full auto or using manual mode to capture this low light pics ? Have you tried other apps to see if it makes it any better low light pics ?

After some testing, i found that the lens is capable for decent low light shots if you use the manual mode...unfortunately seems that the auto mode has some problems..also i found that is better to take shots in 12mp mode instead of 20mp (even if you resize the 20mp to 12mp)...i attach some 100% crops from 12mp photos..the pillow shot is really low light and the moon shot is with zoom. Of course with minimum Photoshop work the photos can be really good for smartphone.

They should had stick with a smaller MP.
The reason low light sucks because the sensor size is too small for 20 MP.
There's a reason all Nexus 6P/5X and Samsung went to smaller MP to achieve better low light camera.
The opposite is true for iPhone. 6s takes worse low light picture than 6 because they went to higher MP without increasing sensor size.

Lowlight pic I snapped. Tried to expose for general scene which ended up blowing out the highlights on the sign (unrecoverable jpg). If you shoot with a steady hand and drop the shutter speed in favor of a lower iso it doesn't end up too mushy.

My first lowlights pic with this phone. ISO 100 3.5 sec. Super soft corners, I didn't expect it to be sharp but boy this lens module is soft.
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I've also found low-light is a lot better with manual mode, but sometimes we don't always have time to adjust. This brings hope for better software updates, however even when you go manual there's a decent amount of noise. Not sure the way around that but you do get brighter pictures.

What about using a different camera app?
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What about using a different camera app?
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Try snap camera. People seemed to be pretty happy with this app.
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I'm posting some pictures because it seems this part of the forum is kind of dead.
Taken with A2017G, I find them pretty decent and overall they are better that what I expected. If you don't need the absolute best camera among smartphones, this is the device to get.

Galaxo60 said:
I'm posting some pictures because it seems this part of the forum is kind of dead.
Taken with A2017G, I find them pretty decent and overall they are better that what I expected. If you don't need the absolute best camera among smartphones, this is the device to get.
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were those taken with the stock camera in auto mode?

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were those taken with the stock camera in auto mode?
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1 and 3 with the "Night Mode", the other 3 were on auto. All with the stock camera, the optical stabilization helps a lot in low light conditions.

Galaxo60 said:
1 and 3 with the "Night Mode", the other 3 were on auto. All with the stock camera, the optical stabilization helps a lot in low light conditions.
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The low light performance seems better to me than I was expecting from the reviews. I got mine yesterday and it had an update waiting as soon as I turned it on. Perhaps the newer build has better camera software? Let's face it, low light performance is mainly software these days. Probably with expensive licensing attached.
My build is A2017GV1.0.0B08.

mitchelln said:
The low light performance seems better to me than I was expecting from the reviews. I got mine yesterday and it had an update waiting as soon as I turned it on. Perhaps the newer build has better camera software? Let's face it, low light performance is mainly software these days. Probably with expensive licensing attached.
My build is A2017GV1.0.0B08.
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Exactly the same phone and same version.
As I have seen, ZTE has improved a lot the camera on this device, because from all the reviews I saw that were made last year, I was just disappointed and wondering if I should get this one or not. It seems ZTE is focusing a lot in camera performance and it's improving everything with the updates, and I'm pretty much happy with how their acting with the Axon 7.

More pictures on auto mode with stock camera:

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More pictures on auto mode with stock camera:
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please take more after the nougat update which will be released this week
could you please shoot these after the update: one indoor during the day and night, 1 out door during the day and night, and one selfie during the day and night it would finalize my purchasing decision on this phone as im a youtuber and need a good camera with great battery life & audio recording which this phone almost has rn

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please take more after the nougat update which will be released this week
could you please shoot these after the update: one indoor during the day and night, 1 out door during the day and night, and one selfie during the day and night it would finalize my purchasing decision on this phone as im a youtuber and need a good camera with great battery life & audio recording which this phone almost has rn
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Nougat was delayed until February, because of the new Chinese year, but it seems we will have an update this week.
Regarding the pictures, you can find them in the other threads where I have posted some, because this is only for low light. I tried to put as many pictures as I can because no one does, and the camera was also important for me. I was between this one and the Mate 9, and even when probably Mate 9 has a better camera, I have seen that is just slightly better but it lacks of some other important things to me like sound and display quality.
As for the camera, I don't think you need to worry at all as long as you are looking for a decent and nice camera. If you want absolutely the best one, then go with another phone because this is slightly below, but manual mode is really useful and can get really nice and sharp pictures as well.
For the price and the specs, I highly doubt you would get anything better.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia XZ Premium come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

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This phone is only good at well lighted condition but in low light it's horrendous even the video is very grainy. But i admire it with its capability in shooting moving objects no blur.
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Bar Beach; Newcastle, NSW Australia. The XZP takes a darned nice photo.

the frustrating thing is, the hardware is capable of so much more, its really just the post processing that lets it down, a finer degree of control would be more useful or even allow RAW so we can do the editing later.
low light shots are a different matter, that's probably an optical limitation more then anything else. a CMOS / CCD is only ever as good as the optics the light passes through.

I'm very disappointed with the low detail of the camera.
dazza9075 said:
the frustrating thing is, the hardware is capable of so much more, its really just the post processing that lets it down, a finer degree of control would be more useful or even allow RAW so we can do the editing later.
low light shots are a different matter, that's probably an optical limitation more then anything else. a CMOS / CCD is only ever as good as the optics the light passes through.
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I'm very disappointed with the low detail of the camera.
Unfortunately, I can not attach the link. I have few messages.

I think best camera ever.only missing front flash

I yesterday tested 4K video recording and its very very nice. Here is video direct from mobile its not edited on PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkxrTBy7LNQ

Xzp have the best camera

Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.

The new analyst dxomark david work for cupertino, is a apple fanboy and troll.
Dxomark was in this summer working in palo alto (,usa) cupertino base and designing new web, new protocols etc.

figo_rulz11 said:
Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
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that is really great I have the same phone

figo_rulz11 said:
Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
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Can u attach original pictures somewere else, those are resizes looks great but i do like the to see original ones.
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Here are some pictures taken by me!
ps. the first one had some camera filter on.. and the last one was a panorama

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Here are some pictures taken by me!
ps. the first one had some camera filter on.. and the last one was a panorama
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Oh wow the 3rd an 4th ones look great. I dont see how people can complain about the camera on any mobile device honestly. I came from an Xperia Z2 which had a phenomenal camera I was really impressed with it. The fact I could flash cyberian camera mod just made it even better. That gave me the ISO sensitivity equivalent to our XZP. The mod allowd for the Z3 to support 25600 ISO which I believe is higher than out XZP.
Just check out some of the photos I took on my Z2 here on my G+ page: https://plus.google.com/116272109758114321506
Completely satisfied with just that and I know the XZP will snap photos better. Lets just face it though, the XZP and ever other phone are just phones so youll never get anything like a DSLR but maybe something close. I think alot of people need to appreciate what phones are capeable of now. Especially those at dxomark. They also need to realise that they are just phones once only able to call.

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Here are some pictures taken by me!
ps. the first one had some camera filter on.. and the last one was a panorama
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Furthermore proof that dxomark was paid by Apple and Samsung, giving it an 83 and then you look at this? I would think that was taken on an expensive DSLR!

figo_rulz11 said:
Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
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Amazing mate, the colors the blur the contrast, thumbs up!

Oreo update helps immensely in low light, my xzp seems to be using 2000iso now instead of cranking it to 3200 or 6400. More grain but less smearing. Burst looks to do a good job as well, although you cant use it in low light for shutter speed reasons.
Pictures arent perfect or anywhere near note 8 level, but they are more than useable now in low light.

Charliebill33 said:
Bar Beach; Newcastle, NSW Australia. The XZP takes a darned nice photo.
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Hey - I know that seagull! I say hello every morning as I run past there!
Hope you enjoyed our fine city!

figo_rulz11 said:
Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
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Simply superb
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As an ex owner of Nokia 1020 I am quite happy with the new SONY IMX400 sensor performance as I am with my older IMX300 sensor in Xperia Z5. The later still does superb pics in daytime with 23MP manual mode.