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should I buy this phone? 10/2015

Hi guys
Looking to upgrade from my Galaxy S4 i9500 which has been loyal to me for the past 2 years. I work in IT so I get to do lot of mobile work on my phone. Looking for a phone with a larger screen 5.5-5.8 for a budget of up to $550.
Looking at the specs`of all the recently released devices, the LG G4 stands strong and the price is great ($430 new on eBay). I don't really care for a finger print sensor. Maybe in a week after the release of V10 or G4 Pro, the price will drop even more.
so if you were me at this point of time, would you buy the LG G4 again? Go for a different device?
peace!
tom

I bought it recently It is great
The only phones I can compare to the G4 -for me- are:
*Moto X-Style for its metal body, front facing camera flash light, stock android experience, cool Motorola Gestures, out of the box quick charger (Quick Charging 34% in 15 min), 52 score in water and dust resistance (however some youtube videos showed G4 resisting water too but nothing official), front facing speakers with a nice camera score Dxomark. However, you may need to watch comparisons between it and G4 to tell which you would prefer, I am still loving the G4 manual mode..
also I think Moto X-Style will get better custom roms support than G4 specially other models than 815.
*and Nexus 6P for its metal body, Greater camera score in Dxomark site !! no comparisons available yet with G4 !! fingerprint sensor, Google fast and direct updates, front facing speakers and bigger battery but no sdcard, and it will have much more custom roms than the other 2 phones..
In case you went for any of them, you will miss the Pedometer, IR blaster, Quick Circle case view and Manual Shutter speed in the G4

Hi M7mdA7md7sein
Thank you very much for your detailed answer, the 2 alternative devices you have mentioned are exactly the 2 I was considering!
I think that your answer and my research has led me toward the N6p.
Thanks a bunch!

My previous was S4 as well.
Just got mine yesterday. So far, so good.
I was between G4 and Moto X Style. Since I got G4 for much less, I went for it.
Basically, I was all the way to X Style, but camera. I use camera a lot, and G4's camera is cool. Still learning though (auto gave me some bad pics in low light).
That's it. As already written, my concern is about ROMs /root / community support, but it's too soon to tell everything about it (for me).

I'd stay far away from this phone, especially if you are heavy into the modding scene. I bought mine at launch and it has been nothing but a headache for me, but I have plenty of phones to compare it to, so based upon my usage, this will be my first phone to sell as soon as that time comes. For the price, you could spend a little bit more and get a phone with a hell of a lot more dev support and a better overall build quality. This is one of the very few phones that still has the microsd slot and a battery that can be changed, but with today's technology that is no longer a necessity for me anymore. I am on my 2nd unit and I have had nothing but issues. There are plenty of people that love this phone, but for me, this stays on my desk more than my calculator does... If these features are what you need on a phone then go right ahead, but I just thought I would add my opinion because not everyone is happy with this device. Take a look around the forums and I do believe this is what you will see, and not a whole lot more...

Hi Tom,
I have owned the G4 since mid July and I still think it is brilliant. My only wish would be for a nice easy root path. I continue to run the device completely stock and haven't done anything to it at all. In the end my phone is a work horse before it is a toy.
I wrote a review of this phone back at the end of July - http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-review-t3167563 which I have just re-read and I still agree with what I wrote. Since then the leather back of my phone how shows a few marks but has held up well over all. Mostly I have a darkening and polishing of the corners which correspond to how I hold the phone when playing games or surfing the web.
Back Plate https://goo.gl/photos/6eQtwh6jSqJUFdKj6
Corner https://goo.gl/photos/athTYeZuLNeC1PYBA
I think what sums it up though is my wife wants a phone with a better camera than what she has currently and I am seriously thinking about recommending the g4.
Ps photos were taken with the G4

You are welcome
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus X, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus X is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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Best smartphone I've owned and it's affordable

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Nice performance and premium looks..

Nothing not to love about oneplus X. And so much development its amazing.

You mean people love their phone? What is this world coming to. Pretty soon I'm going to be walking around saying, "When I was your age we used to sleep and bang chics but nowadays virtual pornhub handles that'

Not perfect, but a lot of bang for the buck.

Absolutely love oneplus-x.. I am in love with this, the best phone i have ever bought.
Though i am not a very hard core user ???? never play games,
What i love all about is its premium look and user friendly interface i am totally addicted to this...
Love oneplus.

the best thing about the phone is the screen
its much better than many other high end phones
overall performance is also great
never felt like a mistake after buying it

The best phone I have ever had!
After my beloved HTC Desire HD retired, I had multiple other phones which made me long for my old Desire HD.
But honestly - I love the OnePlus X even more! Especially: What's up with this insanely fast internal storage!?

I came from the fantastic Nexus 4, but this OnePlus X is awesome, I really love the deep dark of the display!
And the community around it make the phone soooo better than stock!!

Brilliant phone for this price. Battery could be better, but using a custom kernel with UV profile can make il last longer.

Only one smartphone was comparable to onyx and it was Xiaomi Mi2 with Miui4. Then Xiaomi turned crazy and started producing bunch of useless bricks every year and now Im with this lovely piece of technology

I'm a Nexus guy. More specifically a Nexus4 guy. When I was out to buy, there was no other "5-inch or less, sleek & classy looking, developer-friendly, microSD-card-supported, best-bang-for-the-buck" phone. Period.
And yes, i'm totally in love with it. An expression which only people here can understand.

Love for OP-X
Yes I love my Oneplus X. Even more so now, knowing that its no longer available for purchase.
I'm a descendant fan of the Nexus 4. In a lot of ways, the Oneplus X reminds me of it. (Heck, they are right in front of me).
The affordability, the style, the professional appearance, the classy look, the microSD (must have for me) card slot, the ability to use the full screen and the openness to modification (thanks to XDA) are all that endears this phone to me.

Decent phone. They say it lacks 4g on ATT and has a weak radio. It does have 3.5G on ATT indicated by an "H". I have no problems loading videos and and apps at home or on the road. lack of 4g on ATT is not an issue for me. The GPS signal likes to crap out from time to time. I say these things because the GPS issue is the only flaw i've found COUNTER to what professional reviewers are/were saying. Also screen is plenty bright out side even with a bright sun and wearing sunglasses. I feel reviewers were unjustly harsh on the phone or paid off to bash it.

Like many others on this thread I come from a Nexus 4 that was great and I wanted something sleek and developer friendly, this turned out to be a great buy.
I've lost count how many times I dropped it and always fearing the worse, but this is a plucky phone. Edges may be scuffed a little now but I've never put a case on it because it would no longer fit in my pockets! It's my faithful daily driver and keeps me company with youtube vids and assorted randomness on my commute to and from work. May be just a London thing but the network is always excellent. Driving and using GPS has also been fine, but I have learnt to carry a portable charger on long journeys and that may be caused by having 2 SIMs.
What I do not like is how soon OnePlus stopped supporting this phone, but it is more than made up by the rest of the devs still releasing new roms to this day, so thank you all!

I come from a OnePlus One, got this X a week ago and I must say I really love its size. It performs especially well, especially when switching from wifi to 3G (was **** on my oneplus one) Great battery life as well on a 15.1 Custom Lineage ROM.
Unlocking bootkoader and installing TWRP/ custom ROM was breeze. I'm convinced there's nothing of this size that performs this well on the market right now.
Tl;dr, Came from OnePlus One and couldn't be happier.

I really like my OnePlus X. The screen is real nice, especially if you use totally black themes at night. I've had videos playing where text fades in on a black screen, and at night it looks like it's just appearing out of nowhere, since there's absolutely no backlighting (contrary to another phone's AMOLED screen I used for a bit). The hardware buttons are also so nice to have, since it helps clean up the display and lets you use the whole screen. The SD card slot is super handy too, since I just dropped a 128GB card into it, and I'll probably never run out of space (and if I do, I'll just get a 256GB card, problem solved). The battery lasts long enough for me, with the phone almost never dying during the day, unless I forgot to charge it the night before. Edit: and it's easy to root and flash a new OS to get things up to date. I'm also on an unofficial LOS 15.1, and it's been smooth sailing the whole time I've been using it.
It's not all perfect though. A case is pretty much required, since the glass back will probably not last long if you drop your phone at all, which you will since it's horribly slippery. Thankfully cases are cheap on Amazon, so my phone has gone unbroken (and undropped, mostly) for the past couple years. Without 5GHz wifi support, it's kind of slow at times. The wifi also conflicts with Bluetooth, so you have to pick one and only one when using the phone. This only came up a few months ago, when I wanted to use the Steam Link app to stream games while using my Steam Controller, only to find out that when I'm using Bluetooth my wifi is too slow to stream anything (>1Mb/s speeds, if I remember right). I could (probably) use my data instead and then connect to my home VPN, but then I'm blowing through my terrible Canadian data limits, and getting bad latency. And yes, I'm still, salty about this.
Over all, I'd rate it 4/5, not perfect and sometimes frustrating, but the negatives rarely come up in a meaningful way, while the positives keep sticking around. Easily worth the money I paid.

Mcsticken said:
I really like my OnePlus X. The screen is real nice, especially if you use totally black themes at night. I've had videos playing where text fades in on a black screen, and at night it looks like it's just appearing out of nowhere, since there's absolutely no backlighting (contrary to another phone's AMOLED screen I used for a bit). The hardware buttons are also so nice to have, since it helps clean up the display and lets you use the whole screen. The SD card slot is super handy too, since I just dropped a 128GB card into it, and I'll probably never run out of space (and if I do, I'll just get a 256GB card, problem solved). The battery lasts long enough for me, with the phone almost never dying during the day, unless I forgot to charge it the night before. Edit: and it's easy to root and flash a new OS to get things up to date. I'm also on an unofficial LOS 15.1, and it's been smooth sailing the whole time I've been using it.
It's not all perfect though. A case is pretty much required, since the glass back will probably not last long if you drop your phone at all, which you will since it's horribly slippery. Thankfully cases are cheap on Amazon, so my phone has gone unbroken (and undropped, mostly) for the past couple years. Without 5GHz wifi support, it's kind of slow at times. The wifi also conflicts with Bluetooth, so you have to pick one and only one when using the phone. This only came up a few months ago, when I wanted to use the Steam Link app to stream games while using my Steam Controller, only to find out that when I'm using Bluetooth my wifi is too slow to stream anything (>1Mb/s speeds, if I remember right). I could (probably) use my data instead and then connect to my home VPN, but then I'm blowing through my terrible Canadian data limits, and getting bad latency. And yes, I'm still, salty about this.
Over all, I'd rate it 4/5, not perfect and sometimes frustrating, but the negatives rarely come up in a meaningful way, while the positives keep sticking around. Easily worth the money I paid.
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Hello!
Don't you find its internal storage as insufficient? (Approx 10 GB Usable)
Or is there any way to install Whatsapp on memory card on this phone? If there is, can you pls. help me out? Because my internal storage gets filled pretty fast becuase of the apps data (primarily Whatsapp).

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG G5, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG G5 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Well, I hate this phone. Mine couldn't survive a 12" drop onto a parking lot without severely shattering the display.

smacsteve said:
Well, I hate this phone. Mine couldn't survive a 12" drop onto a parking lot without severely shattering the display.
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Maybe it committed suicide as it no longer loved you.
You should have tried relationship counselling, but now it is too late.

Unrootable means un usable in my eyes. Plus the battery lasts about 6 hours.

Not sure why you can't use it without root, I am. And my battery last all day with 4G.
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Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.

LG G5 more hits than misses
Upgraded a number of family phones to the LG G5. I'm a bit old school and prefer simple flip phones. We would probably still be using Samsung Rugby flip phones if they worked with our carrier.
If you're in the market for a high end phone that's more than shiny, with lots of usable practical features and actually includes the latest available technology, consider the LG G5. We think it definitely has more hits than misses.
1. The 3 Cameras, make the phone one of the best camera substitute
2. Modern CPU (Qualcomm 820, currently top of the line) helps performance, battery efficiency, spectrum / wireless performance.
3. 4GB RAM useful for multitasking and running large demanding software
4. 32GB internal built in storage
5. Expandable storage with Micro SD (sorry Apple)
6. Miracast, industry standard screen sharing
7. IR Blaster
8. USB-C, the modern USB port the industry actually agrees and moving towards
(including devices from Apple, Google, Microsoft, LG, etc).
9. User removable / replaceable battery
10. Modular, and easy repair-ability
11. FM capable - enabled depending on carrier
12. A major phone brand / model thus more available accessories
13. Price point - best value for high end / flagship phone
Cons - what's missing that other devices may offer
1. Water / Dust proof - a nicety, and can be added to the LG G5 via certain cases.
2. Premium Metal / Glass feel - subjective. The LG G5 is all aluminum but covered in a primer paint. Besides, most folks I know use a phone case.
We have a number of mobile lines / phones within our family. Our last few phones have been Samsung, from Samsung flip phones to Android devices Galaxy T989D/S2X, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4. When we were up for replacements, we going to go with Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but it was no longer available, replaced by the Note 5. The Note 5 was more expensive than the Note 4. It was hard to justify paying more for a successor that included less than its predecessor - no Micro SD, no IR, no removable battery. Note 5 excluded usable practical features for a shiny exterior, and wasn't even water proof. We heard new phones were coming March / April 2016 so we waited and eventually decided on the LG G5. We believe it to be the best value, and offered the opportunity to award a vendor trying to innovate.
Ultimately it's just a phone, but at least it has the more important convergence features covered, mainly solid phone features, and solid camera.
** Unrelated, but its thanks to XDA community and other enthusiasts who help keep golden oldies such as the T989/S2X and Note 2 phones kicking. There's several Marshmallow ports for T989 and Note 2

LightJak said:
Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.
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Got a G5 (on AT&T) yesterday as a gift from my work and am coming from a Moto G with custom ROM's galore. The only thing I really miss is forward and back arrows in the nav bar for typing and Chrome Pie. Why pie controls aren't native to Chrome and requires root access is absolutely stupid.
Every other root function I used on my Moto G was to make up for the limitations of the device. No need now. Holy crap this thing is fast as hell and thanks to doze, standby is crazy. The SD 820 is an absolute beast of an SOC. And this is only my first full day on it. Going on a hike later today and can't wait to use the camera on this thing. So far I am very impressed with this phone.

Just received my EU h850 in the mail on Wed, already unlocked and rooted. No build quality issues at all.
Don't know why some are having battery issues. I easily get 24hrs of use with 5+hrs sot
That's with gaming,youtube, browsing,and Bluetooth
The screen uses much less battery than my Sprint g3...and even with custom everything on my g3 this phone performs sooo much better in everyway.
I think carrier branded g5 have a lot of bloat killing battery
Haven't heard a bad thing about unbranded h850 yet

Got mine from O2 in the UK and love my G5... O2 have put no bloatware on it at all and it therefore has good battery life. I have a G4 and the G5 flies compares to it (I loved the G4 too even though it had it's issues!). The only negative point is that getting a good tempered glass screen protector is going to be a nightmare as the screen is clearly quite flexible (hence the corner buckles etc) and so getting one to fit perfectly is going to be a challenge. Having said that, this is a very new phone, and all new3 models have odd issues (software/hardware), so if it becomes a problem then I'll RMA it to O2 or LG and get it swapped.

Hate some of the software tweaks, but this is a damn fine phone.

All in all, this is a pretty good phone. I'm really liking the wide angle lens and the fingerprint sensor. (This is my first phone with a fingerprint sensor)

adamelphick said:
Got mine from O2 in the UK and love my G5... O2 have put no bloatware on it at all and it therefore has good battery life. .
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Same here and agreed... awesome standby time as well... My only issue with it is, I wish the screen and always on display were brighter outside and the overall volume was a bit louder, especially when using your own ringtones, like my G4. When I set up mine.. I didnt bother with the App drawer update, to me.. it was a new phone, new UI so I went for a bit of a change instead of copying my old G4 setup... made me feel like Ide actually bought a new phone.. and im finding it much simpler and enjoyable to use.
I find the UX5 much slicker and faster to use, more responsive and I can fly through tasks, OneNote and OneDrive.. Very Happy with my G5, also the 0.2" screen reduction makes no difference after a day or so

For the ATT G5 is there a way to save pictures/files/videos directly to the memory card or does that require root?

Love it. I'm not crazy about the design but a 2.5$ case makes it look badass.
Camera is outstanding, battery life is good (30 hours with 4 hours SOT , brightness is set to Auto, BT and NFC off).
The phone works fast and doesn't overheat.
I'm happy

Loving my G5 had it a few months now, bought the Spigen Rugged Armor case really nice, snug fit. Great camera, battery life & blazing fast, great screen, fingerprint scanner works amazing its really responsive, i was pretty surprised actually at how well the fingerprint scanner works .... Don't care for root to be honest, only thing i really liked about being able to root my old G2 was having AdAway installed. USB-Type-C is a god send especially in dim light.

Camera FTW
LightJak said:
Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.
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I also love the camera and settings provided on the LG G5. My only disappointment might be the capture time when using HDR mode. Aside from this, the video and picture quality is worthy of this benchmark phone, and the wide angle option adds a new enthusiasm for taking your phone with you on the scenic route.

From South Africa here. I have the H850 G5 as well, and no bloatware whatsoever. Battery lasts me a full day under moderate to heavy use (That does not include the camera). The auto-brightness is on point (but gets a little too low in a dark room to make watching videos or gaming comfortable). Battery charges fully in 28min from 1% whilst turned on. It's blazing fast. I have games in the background that I get back to hours later, and the memory never fails. Best phone I've ever owned.

I like almost everything about this phone minus the flimsy quality of the lcd quoting/Glass as its getting scratched very very easily, same is the case with back camera glass/visor.
Unfortunately, i wasn't using any screen protector earlier and i'd tried to clean the screen with a very soft microfiber cloth but to my surprise even that cloth had left some tiny hairline scratches. I couldn't believe my eyes at first but this was the fact sadly
I am not sure now if i can get rid of these scratches as i really love neat and clean phones.
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I upgraded from an S3 that had been in service since it's release and had never failed me. It just became a bit dated and the battery was due for replacement. I caught the G5 for $1 at Best Buy so I said what the hell. My first unit didn't last 12 hours before dying. However the replacement is on it's 4th charge/discharge cycle and is seamless. I hope that the first unit was just a fluke because this thing hums. I hadn't even tested any other phones since owning the S3 so the speed and fluidity of the G5 blows me away. I cannot wait for rooting capability to customize it even though the factory setup isn't bad and not as restrictive as others I have dealt with in the past. I am giving it 3 stars for now due to the DOA unit I first received though.
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[Q] It's time for me to buy a new phone

Hey guys.
After so many years I've been with Samsung, it's time to leave them, I really can't stand my Note 3 any more guys (I'm still on 4.4.2 Android)
I was looking for a new phone and I found this device which looks amazing, with excellent specification, good camera, battery life, and clean OS without any crap or anything and the best thing is the price! only 622.39$ for 128GB damn son!
So I decided I'd buy the phone soon but first I have questions I'd love you to help me with
1. How many screen hours do you have? (heavy/basic use)
2. How is the camera? (Rear and front camera) also, I've seen some good reviews about her on youtube but I saw in the official forum of the device bad reviews about her after the last update 5.0.4. how bad is it? ( I don't care about 4K.. just 1080p)
3. things that I should do after I get the phone? better rom or something?
4. is there any bad thing that I should know?
5. Do you recommend the device? If yes/no, explain why
Thank you and please don't tell me to wait for 1+ 6
(I really hate my note 3 guys.. can't stand it anymore)

I had the Galaxy S7 for awhile. I was a Samsung fanboy back in the captivate to S3 days, back when bootloaders were unlocked. With my S3, I was always flashing ROMs that were closer to stock Android. Samsung's flagship phones are beasts, but Samsung's stock ROM just kneecaps the hardware (there truly is no reason for lag when I'm light use). Then the 2013 Moto X came out. No longer was I compelled to flash a ROM that was close to stock, I already had a phone close to stock. Not to mention the extras Motorola (before Lenovo) added to the Moto X made the user experience much more immersive, and did it well. Long story short, Lenovo **** the bed with the 3rd gen Moto X, I couldn't live with an LCD screen, and went back to Samsung soley for the screen. I was then fixed into the horror that is TouchWiz (I don't care what Samsung calls it these days). The OnePlus 5T has brought back, for me, those days with my first Moto X. Sure, it doesn't fit in the hand like the Moto X, but it's curved edges aren't uncomfortable. The screen is just enough. I never notice a difference in sharpness between my S7 and 5T unless I'm trying. I do miss the camera from the S7. Though, with a reasonable amount of effort, this phone can produce wonderful pictures.
That is all.

beefgoat said:
I had the Galaxy S7 for awhile. I was a Samsung fanboy back in the captivate to S3 days, back when bootloaders were unlocked. With my S3, I was always flashing ROMs that were closer to stock Android. Samsung's flagship phones are beasts, but Samsung's stock ROM just kneecaps the hardware (there truly is no reason for lag when I'm light use). Then the 2013 Moto X came out. No longer was I compelled to flash a ROM that was close to stock, I already had a phone close to stock. Not to mention the extras Motorola (before Lenovo) added to the Moto X made the user experience much more immersive, and did it well. Long story short, Lenovo **** the bed with the 3rd gen Moto X, I couldn't live with an LCD screen, and went back to Samsung soley for the screen. I was then fixed into the horror that is TouchWiz (I don't care what Samsung calls it these days). The OnePlus 5T has brought back, for me, those days with my first Moto X. Sure, it doesn't fit in the hand like the Moto X, but it's curved edges aren't uncomfortable. The screen is just enough. I never notice a difference in sharpness between my S7 and 5T unless I'm trying. I do miss the camera from the S7. Though, with a reasonable amount of effort, this phone can produce wonderful pictures.
That is all.
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SGS3 was my first smartphone and I love it but hate so much the bootloaders + TouchWiz, I flash so many roms and stuff
Then I bought the Note 3, damn the phone was so good in the first few months and I flashed one room and delete almost every samsung bootloaders or cancer ****, the phone went from bike to airplane. but.. still had lags and problems like I wrote
and now I'm want to leave Samsung for good and go to oneplus

The screen is still a big thing for me. After nearly a decade of staring at an OLED display, LCD displays simply don't cut it.

Being a Samsung Galaxy S8 user in the past, now using OP5T. I can say that the battery life is incredible. With moderate usage im getting 7.5hrs of screen on time. Yes i must say that moderate usage meaning normal day to day usage with no or very little gaming.
Coming to screen quality its superb. The sharpness and the color reproduction is fantastic. Talking about the camera, im not satisfied firstly because of the fact that the front camera doesnt have portrait mode. Second the rear camera takes shaky or blurry images in moderate lighting condition. In daylight, it will give you awesome photos but when you come to indoor situation, it will tend to produce noise and also the camera produces blurred shots. Lack of filters and some basic options in the camera app.
The UI is super fast. After using this device, you will feel like every other android phone is damn slow. Its so fast.
Now talking about whether you should buy or not. Yes you should buy as this is one hell of a beast in every aspect except the camera. But only buy the 8gb variant if you want 128gb internals not because of the extra ram as the 2gb extra ram doesnt make any difference in performance. Hope i answered all of your questions.

I also shifted to the 5t from Samsung. The phone is good, leaving the camera ofcourse. But there are many flaws which I am finding these days like Samsung Health doesn't work in this phone(you can ignore this point if you didn't use it), wifi hotspot stops when you use the call, getting wideline l1 is a mess as the service centres don't know a thing about it, accepting the call downwards still a mess for me(you can ignore this point too). The screen is good but not as good as Samsung ofcourse. Considering the 6 will have a notch and they will launch a 6t few months later, get a s8+ in the same price. It will have a slot for the memory card too, better camera, better screen, water & dust resistant. Cheers.

I'm coming from a Samsung S4 that replaced a Samsung S2, and I'm very happy that I did.
This was the best battery and performing Smartphone that I have.
I'm experiencing with very heavy usage like lots of hours watching YouTube videos I have 9 to 10 hours of screen on time, for more light usage never less than 7 Hours screen on time.
The camera is it weakness, but it's not that bad at all.

Purchasing a M9 now (mid-2018)?

Hello,
I am evaluating purchasing an used HTC M9. The price seems to be a real bargain (around 60€), but I am worried that it is still a too old device to be enjoyable.
I own an iPhone 7 Plus now and I said myself numerous times that I would never switch back to Android, but I had lot of fun with Android ROMs years ago and I feel like I would love to try again.
I had both HTC m7 and m8 devices and loved it (more the M7 than the M8 actually). How does the M9 feels like?
How would it work after these years? I will not use it to play games, but I will make phone calls, internet browsing, messaging and lot of normal-light usage.
What is your suggestion? How does your M9 feels like after all these years?

Well, by now, the HTC M9 still has respectable development here on XDA. the SD810 feels hot by the heavy use, but it's not dangerous... the phone doesn't have official updates anymore, keep in mind that, still the phone runs great and the Sense UI is one of the fastest UIs around... it has 3GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, and you can put more space with the microSD, so storage wouldn't be a problem, you will find cheap cases on internet, even the Otterbox Defender is like $7 USD on ebay.
The HTC M9 is like a M8 with steroids...

I've just moved to this phone from a Google pixel after it's untimely death ( kid broke it :'( )and I'm happy with it. Performance wise it's fine and I've only noticed a drop in performance on one game. I also flashed a different ROM without sense and got it just the way I like.
Edit: I thought I would add I have always loved the build quality on HTC devices and this one is just as good. Mine is an old phone my wife used for years and she does not look after them. It's full of dints and scrapes and has been very wet and still works perfect. Even the screen is remarkably scratch free.

€60 is a good price, I've just paid €150 for one, although mine was in mint condition and came with s-off.
My wife is still using my M7 that's still going strong after I replaced it with a Sony Z3 (far too fragile for my lifestyle) and then a Moto X Force (lovely phone just has ribbon cable issues with the OLED)
Only slight gripes are the sound quality in Lineageos, so gone back to stock Nougat, a case is essential if you want it to keep it's sexy looks

All said and done, the 810 is a disastrous chip which gets very hot and has a pathetic on-screen battery life.

for me at that price is a good phone, powerful and fast.
There are no overheating problems (at least with last firmware) and the defined disastrous processor is very powerful even if energivorous.
certainly a disastrous purchase at full price but at that price in my opinion is not despicable

Better get a refurbished HTC 10 @ ebay.

Sure not to get M9 is 2018, the battery life, camera, S810 is nor very well. Maybe you can try other budget phone.

Camera is NO good on the M9!!!
Cero92 said:
Hello,
I am evaluating purchasing an used HTC M9. The price seems to be a real bargain (around 60€), but I am worried that it is still a too old device to be enjoyable.
I own an iPhone 7 Plus now and I said myself numerous times that I would never switch back to Android, but I had lot of fun with Android ROMs years ago and I feel like I would love to try again.
I had both HTC m7 and m8 devices and loved it (more the M7 than the M8 actually). How does the M9 feels like?
How would it work after these years? I will not use it to play games, but I will make phone calls, internet browsing, messaging and lot of normal-light usage.
What is your suggestion? How does your M9 feels like after all these years?
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G'day mate,
I would give the M9 a wide girth if you have any interest in using it to take photos. It has an impressive 20M camera, but no ability to focus, and take good shots. Here is a post that I made some time ago on the subject.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/photo-quality-m9-poor-compared-to-t3385288
I have three beautiful daughters, and the inability of this phone to take good photos of them lead me to purchase an Oppo A77. There are may good Android phones in the AU$300 (~EU$180) range. Oppo is an excellent brand to start with, however if you take this path be aware that you need to tinker with it a bit to get standard notifications; check out my Oppo post here -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/enabling-push-notifications-oppo-a77-t3748639
Good luck mate, I would say "Happy Hunting", but as I believe in peace on earth I will settle with "May you reach your dreams, even if they encompass the stars themselves!"
Cheers
Davo

For that price and just to play around with it, totally.
But the first thing you should do if you get one would be to go to a service, open it up and clean the dust from the speaker grille.
Or try at home with a toothbrush and a vacuum cleaner. (This is what i personally do, but there is clearly still dust in there because the sound is still cracking at high volume. Plus, dust particles still fly away from the speaker, even after cleaning, if i turn the volume all the way up)
But if you clean it professionally, it has an incredible speaker setup.
Camera now. The Nougat 7.0 update made the camwra usable in low light. (You could try to find the link for SunDream's 7.1.2 S.ROM because is clearly the best Sense-based ROM around here. And also the only one that also raised the API level by 1 over the OTA limit.)
Like, is incredible how much right that one update did... But you lose the 9 seconds of exposure time from the "More Light More Fun" Mod (or something between those lines. Somebody posted the link in this thread anyway).
Anyway, (5.1.1 MLMF + Luma Denoise. What i currently use) in daytime and slightly less than perfect light conditions, the camera performs really good.
The bokeh effect is amazing, like the edge detection is on point. It detects those hair strings like magic.
I did a bokeh test on a moving pine tree branch, and it got all the pins right.
Not a single one got blurred over.
I tried it against the Note 8, the S9+ and the iPhone X (stuff that my classmates have) and beat all of them at edge detection from my personal tests.
The others struggle with reflective surfaces from what i observed.
Anyway, performance.
Good. Doesnt slow down over time.
Never cleaned dalvik, never zipaligned, never optimized databases, never installed a new ROM.
I challenged myself to use it with what it had installed (in my case, the update right before 6.0.1).
It can still play PUBG just fine on HD settings... For like 10 minutes because it heats up and throttles.
But older games work just fine on the highest settings.
Screen. If you can ignore the fact that black is some sort of very dark blue, is ok.
You can play VR with it just fine. You wont notice the pixels.
Also, if you set it on Automatic, it actually goes darker than the lowest brightness setting.
(Also, activating the brightness slider from the customization file still doesnt make it darker than Auto Brightness.)
IR is really useful, imo.
Headphone sound was really good for it's time, but it's still just a 24-bit DAC.
Bluetooth is just AptX and you can feel the compression.
But still enjoyable with Viper FX.
I think you can patch AptX HD tho...
Also if i remeber correctly there is a mod that makes the speakers louder.
And finally Dolby Digital Surround 5.1 is very realistic... If the speakers are clean.
Done. Would i recommend it in 2018?
As a secondary phone, totally.
Would a Butterfly 3 be better? Obviously, if you dont care that much about ROMs and customization. (It has water resistance and dual cameras.)
So... For 60$. Have fun. Install as many ROMs you want.
(Also a good time to buy one because MIUI finally got released, so you have a very wide sellection of ROMs.)