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Like the title of my thread, will it be possible?
HTC HD 2 running WP7
Yes...!!!!
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/htc-hd2-seen-running-windows-phone-7-very-very-good-news
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Yes...!!!!
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/htc-hd2-seen-running-windows-phone-7-very-very-good-news
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thats an HD2 not an TP2, HD2 is the only device from HTC which will be official compatible with WM 7.
because WM7 needs a capacitive tochscreen it will not work on TP2.
KyuubiNaruto said:
Like the title of my thread, will it be possible?
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hi realy dont think so since wm7 needs a captive screen and needs all the hardware like hd2 manely or tp2 cant handle this
Time to upgrade my TP2 as soon as Win Mo 7 is out.
mutantblack said:
Time to upgrade my TP2 as soon as Win Mo 7 is out.
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Haha, I hope they will release TP3 in time with WP7 I'm also curious about the dual core snapdragon processors which are announced with the end of this year
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When I had the T-Mobile Wing they said we could not get WM6.5 and now thanks to XDA we have it. Now I have the TP2 and even though the screen doesn't support some of the command I would not be surprized if there was success in getting WM7 onto this phone (limited in functionality and may be very slow). At any rate I will be getting the HD2 on March 24 when it comes out to T-Mobile.
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thats an HD2 not an TP2, HD2 is the only device from HTC which will be official compatible with WM 7.
because WM7 needs a capacitive tochscreen it will not work on TP2.
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IMHO, the GUI is not that complex that you really need complex hardware. If MS really wanted, i believe it could run on a TP2 too (even with multitouch). 529Mhz is not that slow. And your TP2 has OPENGL 1.1? hardware which is not really used very well.
But like MS said, they put a lot of work to let the hardware and software work really together. Which in other words they say you need to buy new hardware (faster CPU, OPENGL 2.0; base ram 512MB)
Even now it could technically run on HD2, the HD2 device is not officially compliant with the 3 hardware buttons a Win7 mobile device needs (back, start , search). I wonder how to map the search button.
Let's only hope!
I am sure that if someone can get the current ROMs for the HD2, which are technically designed for a capacitive screen, to work on the TP2, I would bet money that someone will be able to port it over and make it work. We won't really know until stuff starts getting leaked. That would be great though. I would really like to give WP7 a test run before dumping $500 on a new phone!!
TP2 will be able to run WP7 (maybe there might be problems with OpenGL ES 2.0 missing). The right question is - will MS make BSP for it? I highly doubt it.
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When I had the T-Mobile Wing they said we could not get WM6.5 and now thanks to XDA we have it. Now I have the TP2 and even though the screen doesn't support some of the command I would not be surprized if there was success in getting WM7 onto this phone (limited in functionality and may be very slow). At any rate I will be getting the HD2 on March 24 when it comes out to T-Mobile.
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Yep me too. Although i'm gonna ditch my TP 2 as soon as I get confirmation of WM7 running on the hd2.
I saw somewhere that Windows Phone 7 will require a 1ghz processor. The HD2 has that and the Touch Pro 2 doesn't.
If someone does get Windows Phone 7 ported over, it's likely going to run a little slowly.
don't forget mandatory 4 point multitouch... that might be a problem for full functionality.
I seem to remember the guy who introduced WM7 (WPS7) saying something about the 7 series being slated for all manner of new phones including those with and without keyboards (I think he made reference to phones similar to BBs with keyboards on the face of the phones)...So unless the price of processors comes down significantly I really don't think every new phone running this 7 series OS will meet such demanding base requirements (1GHz processor, capacitive multitouch screens etc., etc.).
YES!
m8tix said:
Haha, I hope they will release TP3 in time with WP7 I'm also curious about the dual core snapdragon processors which are announced with the end of this year
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Touch Pro Series The Best Option HTC have!
according to several websites like: http://www.redmondpie.com/htc-hd2-to-get-windows-mobile-7-upgrade-9140128/ the HD2 will get windows mobile 7. but TP2 will most likely be up to the devs here at the XDA if they can do it. My feelings are that if they can get android going on TP2 (so far so good) then they can do windows mobile 7.
In my opinion, our devices are transition devices, most of us are waiting/hoping for a TP3 better than HD2, or at least with similar specifications as the HD2.
TP2 runs WP7, but it reminds me of my old Artemis with WM65 and TF2D, .
We´ll see it coming soon.
Cheers.
i have a blue angel runnign wm 6.5 so anything is possible especially if there is enough interest.
I understand why the move makes sense for MS but personally from what I've seen of WM7 I'm in no hurry for it to get here. Now if i could get my TP2 with a 1ghz cpu i might look at it but until the smart guys here at XDA figure out how to get past WM7's limitations i'm not in any rush to give up what I have.
It might be able to run it, but Microsoft and HTC aren't going to release anything needed to make an unofficial port happen. Sorry, but it's extremely likely that the TP2 is not going to get WM7, officially or otherwise.
And to everyone who always cites the example of Windows Mobile 6.5 running on an old device, I hate to break it to you but it's not that easy when dealing with WM7. Windows Mobile 7 is based off the Windows CE 6.0 kernel, while Windows Mobile 5 and 6.x are powered by the same CE 5.2 kernel, making a port of WM 6.x to a WM5 device pretty easy. It's much more difficult when you have a different kernel with from an OS that doesn't support most of your hardware, as it means someone has to create a BSP themselves.
No multi-tasking = No dice for me! It'd be like a downgrade! Loving my TP2 with Deep Shining Rom. I use my phone for a whole manner of things, usually business orientated. If I wanted the type of phone the Windows mobile 7 looks like it's gonna introduce, I would've bought an IPhone!
I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?
In the case of Samsung, why wouldn't you just get the Captivate (Galaxy S)? Already has Android. The Focus is basically the same phone...
scottadams2m2003 said:
I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?
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why start from ZERO when HD2 is already running Android pretty smoothly and will be getting wp7 soon? Not to bash or anything but wp7 may not be as easy to tinker with as compared to wm6.
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~~Tito~~
Was wondering, are people interested in a Mango port for the Defy/Defy+ phones?...
Just curious how many people are interested. Might try to learn all these porting stuff, just for the sake of having a different OS on my phone.
huh ? ? mango instead of icecream?
Not go too much into detail but as long as the bootloader for Defy is locked it's impossible to port another OS to Defy.
Yes. Mango instead of Ice Cream. It might sound nuts, but Mango is quite a stable OS plus its performance is better (heard some guys from the HD2 forum that, for example, HD2 with Mango has a better battery than HD2 with ICS.)
Also, it's a stable OS, you get only what apps you really need. It's not an OS for gaming, for example.
Just saying.
it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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If possible ... Then yeah .. go go go!
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mpiekp said:
it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.
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HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.
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????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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Idea
I was reading about FUSE on linux, maybe is possible to create something like a VM, and then use WP 7.5 running on android... i'm just guessing, cause FUSE runs on linux, i think because the kernel MUST work on android, is possible to do something like that???
Emulating an os on such limited resources is a crazy idea, but may be doable, if our kernel supports it (unlikely) as we are still stuck with motos kernel.
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mpiekp said:
????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.
Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....
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Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....
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Isn't about knowledge. isn't possible because we can't change the android kernel because the locked bootloader, and WP doesn't run on a linux kernel, and on the other hand i agree with mpiekp, emulating isn't a good choice...
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HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.
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Yeah, wp7 is spoofed by pretending the hd2 is a hd7, only works for almost identical hardware, not for a different chipset. Find a wp7 rom from identical hardware then you stand a chance, once your passed the bootloader issue.
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The HD7 was essentially an HD2 with another badge.
You stand zero chance of doing this, even with an unlocked bootloader... I'm not aware of any OMAP based devices on WP7, I may be wrong there, but it's still pretty much impossible, given the fact you just have device specific binaries for WP7...
dude, this only make sense if mirosoft share their code
wp7 worked on hd2 because, a test rom was leaked where htc was working on wp7 using hd2 for their internal testing, hence got working drivers.
So basically we need a phone with similar specs as our phone so then we can see if the drivers work here. (Most wp7 phones use qualcomm chips so bad news there)
Even then i guess it would be hard task if not impossible to load windows on a locked bootloader which can only load a linux kernel
Even if we had an unlocked bootloader and drivers for WP7, there still would be an other issue: screen resolution. All WP7 devices have a 480x800 screen, and the Defy(+) has a 480x854 one, so the UI is incompatible.
Hy,
Do you think it will be possible to have the dual boot one this tablett ?
JCLB said:
Hy,
Do you think it will be possible to have the dual boot one this tablett ?
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People just don't learn...
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Hy,
Do you think it will be possible to have the dual boot one this tablett ?
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Possible = yes
Probable = no
Windows 8 is impossible since it only runs on x86 systems. Windows RT would be the way to go, however it is closed source, which renders the possibility to zero.
Won't happen anytime soon since RT isn't being released to the public, probably for this exact reason. While it would be cool, the two OS dual booted would just be slow if possible at all due to the limited storage space. Also I rather like rooting and getting apps for free which I'm pretty sure you can't do with the microsoft market.
As discussed many other times, this is not likely to happen any time soon (licensing issues aside).
Since this topic has been discussed to death, AND this is NOT a development thread, I am just closing this here.
Hi all! Windows Phone Internals 2.4 is ready to download. It beats the modern SecureBoot implementation. And furthermore, it brings custom ROM's, Mass Storage Mode, Root access and many more hacks to all Windows Phone 8 and Windows 10 Mobile-based Lumia-models. There is also a new Download-section in the tool, where you can download everything you need for your phone.
Short demo here:
https://wpinternals.net/index.php/128-introwpi22
Version 2.3 is released:
https://www.wpinternals.net/index.php/129-wpi23released
Version 2.4 is released (changelog in the link):
https://wpinternals.net/index.php/130-here-s-windows-phone-internals-2-4
René (Heathcliff74)
So lumia 640 xl is suported?
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So lumia 640 xl is suporrted?
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Sure is!
Thank you very much for your work.
Are Alcatel IDOL 4S and HP Elite X3 supported?
pst125675 said:
Thank you very much for your work.
Are Alcatel IDOL 4S and HP Elite X3 supported?
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Nope. And I don't think they will be supported. I got neither of these phones to test with. Research would also take a lot of time to see if some of the hacks can be ported to these phones and maybe they also need new hacks. I don't think I would have time to create support for these phones.
Heathcliff74
Good to hear that I can unofficially update a Lumia to the latest version of Windows 10 Mobile (1709 (10.0.15254.12))
Thanks for working so hard on this tool. It's going to be great seeing all the amazing things that will be made because of it!
Heathcliff74 said:
Hi all! It's almost two years ago since my last release. But Windows Phone Internals 2.2 is almost ready. It beats the modern SecureBoot implementation. And furthermore, it brings custom ROM's, Mass Storage Mode, Root access and many more hacks to all Windows Phone 8 and Windows 10 Mobile-based Lumia-models. There is also a new Download-section in the tool, where you can download everyhing you need for your phone.
Short demo here:
https://wpinternals.net/index.php/128-introwpi22
More coming soon!
Heathcliff74
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Will this work on any w10m build or we will have to downgrade to an specific version(i'm at 15254.12 in both 635 and 550)??
It will support lumia 635??
So HTC one m8 for windows is suporrted?
sensboston said:
Good work, my old friend! Even your link is broken, I'm 100% trust you, your work should be amazing!
But, I'm afraid, it's too late now, Windows phones are almost dead It's a time to switch to the another platform, unfortunately Damn Microsoft, burn in hell! - you are killed the prefect platform! But currently Windows phones (even a "latest&greates ones", like my two years old L-950), become nonfunctional because of lack of applications and services... Lack of support of modern services and apps is killing the platform more faster than damn "back end guy" Satya Nadella
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Well, this tools gives two options
1: Unsupported phones that don't receive upgrades can be upgraded to the latest version 1709 (10.0.15254.12) and receive at LEAST security updates. and small bug fixes.
2: Phones that have similar Android phone counter parts might be able to be switched to Android where the drivers are supported for that same hardware where they will have new life.
Im leaning towards 1 because its easier.
Look like a chance to unbrick my 530.
Hoping for new life
Will the new WP Internals work with my Lumia 730 now?
THANK YOU
Ksarin112 said:
I want Android on my Lumia 640 LTE
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1 Gb RAM, go bundy
Hey, guys, if you want Android or iOS, buy another hardware. Here is theme about Lumias - so let´s thank Heathcliff for his work and don´t frustrate him and others...
Thank you and keep up the good work! I'm sure many people waiting for some solution to have some last breath in their devices even if they are not active on this forum. Personally I have a Lumia 950 and I really love this phone. Wouldn't like to change it to an android one and I also don't see a design what I would love like this one.
Old is gold
droid_ulti said:
whats the point of supporting old lumias, even if some one made is possible to install android it would be a stupid move since hardware is old,
you have two of most powerful WP10 device alcatel 4s pro and elite x3 and those two are not supported !
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It's not about rolling out a software update that new phones must get it first. And new phones like the Elite x3 have more security features that are difficult to break at this moment. Just like how WP Internals was only for old phones like Lumia 520, 720 two years ago and not for new devices at that time like Lumia 640, 730, etc.
@Heathcliff74
Thanks for the work put forth to help Windows mobile users experience more. Looking forward to checking out the supported device list when it comes...
Ani64 said:
It's not about rolling out a software update that new phones must get it first. And new phones like the Elite x3 have more security features that are difficult to break at this moment. Just like how WP Internals was only for old phones like Lumia 520, 720 two years ago and not for new devices at that time like Lumia 640, 730, etc.
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ALL WINDOWS PHONE share the security method, old is not gold in phones world once your phone become old hardware its dead.
Ksarin112 said:
1 Gigabit? lol
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You started first
Thanks for releasing new version of the tool, android on 520 is impossible to use...