Was wondering, are people interested in a Mango port for the Defy/Defy+ phones?...
Just curious how many people are interested. Might try to learn all these porting stuff, just for the sake of having a different OS on my phone.
huh ? ? mango instead of icecream?
Not go too much into detail but as long as the bootloader for Defy is locked it's impossible to port another OS to Defy.
Yes. Mango instead of Ice Cream. It might sound nuts, but Mango is quite a stable OS plus its performance is better (heard some guys from the HD2 forum that, for example, HD2 with Mango has a better battery than HD2 with ICS.)
Also, it's a stable OS, you get only what apps you really need. It's not an OS for gaming, for example.
Just saying.
it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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If possible ... Then yeah .. go go go!
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mpiekp said:
it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.
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HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.
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????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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Idea
I was reading about FUSE on linux, maybe is possible to create something like a VM, and then use WP 7.5 running on android... i'm just guessing, cause FUSE runs on linux, i think because the kernel MUST work on android, is possible to do something like that???
Emulating an os on such limited resources is a crazy idea, but may be doable, if our kernel supports it (unlikely) as we are still stuck with motos kernel.
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????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.
Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....
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Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....
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Isn't about knowledge. isn't possible because we can't change the android kernel because the locked bootloader, and WP doesn't run on a linux kernel, and on the other hand i agree with mpiekp, emulating isn't a good choice...
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HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.
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Yeah, wp7 is spoofed by pretending the hd2 is a hd7, only works for almost identical hardware, not for a different chipset. Find a wp7 rom from identical hardware then you stand a chance, once your passed the bootloader issue.
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The HD7 was essentially an HD2 with another badge.
You stand zero chance of doing this, even with an unlocked bootloader... I'm not aware of any OMAP based devices on WP7, I may be wrong there, but it's still pretty much impossible, given the fact you just have device specific binaries for WP7...
dude, this only make sense if mirosoft share their code
wp7 worked on hd2 because, a test rom was leaked where htc was working on wp7 using hd2 for their internal testing, hence got working drivers.
So basically we need a phone with similar specs as our phone so then we can see if the drivers work here. (Most wp7 phones use qualcomm chips so bad news there)
Even then i guess it would be hard task if not impossible to load windows on a locked bootloader which can only load a linux kernel
Even if we had an unlocked bootloader and drivers for WP7, there still would be an other issue: screen resolution. All WP7 devices have a 480x800 screen, and the Defy(+) has a 480x854 one, so the UI is incompatible.
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Like the title of my thread, will it be possible?
HTC HD 2 running WP7
Yes...!!!!
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/htc-hd2-seen-running-windows-phone-7-very-very-good-news
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Yes...!!!!
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/htc-hd2-seen-running-windows-phone-7-very-very-good-news
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thats an HD2 not an TP2, HD2 is the only device from HTC which will be official compatible with WM 7.
because WM7 needs a capacitive tochscreen it will not work on TP2.
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Like the title of my thread, will it be possible?
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hi realy dont think so since wm7 needs a captive screen and needs all the hardware like hd2 manely or tp2 cant handle this
Time to upgrade my TP2 as soon as Win Mo 7 is out.
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Time to upgrade my TP2 as soon as Win Mo 7 is out.
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Haha, I hope they will release TP3 in time with WP7 I'm also curious about the dual core snapdragon processors which are announced with the end of this year
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When I had the T-Mobile Wing they said we could not get WM6.5 and now thanks to XDA we have it. Now I have the TP2 and even though the screen doesn't support some of the command I would not be surprized if there was success in getting WM7 onto this phone (limited in functionality and may be very slow). At any rate I will be getting the HD2 on March 24 when it comes out to T-Mobile.
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thats an HD2 not an TP2, HD2 is the only device from HTC which will be official compatible with WM 7.
because WM7 needs a capacitive tochscreen it will not work on TP2.
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IMHO, the GUI is not that complex that you really need complex hardware. If MS really wanted, i believe it could run on a TP2 too (even with multitouch). 529Mhz is not that slow. And your TP2 has OPENGL 1.1? hardware which is not really used very well.
But like MS said, they put a lot of work to let the hardware and software work really together. Which in other words they say you need to buy new hardware (faster CPU, OPENGL 2.0; base ram 512MB)
Even now it could technically run on HD2, the HD2 device is not officially compliant with the 3 hardware buttons a Win7 mobile device needs (back, start , search). I wonder how to map the search button.
Let's only hope!
I am sure that if someone can get the current ROMs for the HD2, which are technically designed for a capacitive screen, to work on the TP2, I would bet money that someone will be able to port it over and make it work. We won't really know until stuff starts getting leaked. That would be great though. I would really like to give WP7 a test run before dumping $500 on a new phone!!
TP2 will be able to run WP7 (maybe there might be problems with OpenGL ES 2.0 missing). The right question is - will MS make BSP for it? I highly doubt it.
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When I had the T-Mobile Wing they said we could not get WM6.5 and now thanks to XDA we have it. Now I have the TP2 and even though the screen doesn't support some of the command I would not be surprized if there was success in getting WM7 onto this phone (limited in functionality and may be very slow). At any rate I will be getting the HD2 on March 24 when it comes out to T-Mobile.
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Yep me too. Although i'm gonna ditch my TP 2 as soon as I get confirmation of WM7 running on the hd2.
I saw somewhere that Windows Phone 7 will require a 1ghz processor. The HD2 has that and the Touch Pro 2 doesn't.
If someone does get Windows Phone 7 ported over, it's likely going to run a little slowly.
don't forget mandatory 4 point multitouch... that might be a problem for full functionality.
I seem to remember the guy who introduced WM7 (WPS7) saying something about the 7 series being slated for all manner of new phones including those with and without keyboards (I think he made reference to phones similar to BBs with keyboards on the face of the phones)...So unless the price of processors comes down significantly I really don't think every new phone running this 7 series OS will meet such demanding base requirements (1GHz processor, capacitive multitouch screens etc., etc.).
YES!
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Haha, I hope they will release TP3 in time with WP7 I'm also curious about the dual core snapdragon processors which are announced with the end of this year
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Touch Pro Series The Best Option HTC have!
according to several websites like: http://www.redmondpie.com/htc-hd2-to-get-windows-mobile-7-upgrade-9140128/ the HD2 will get windows mobile 7. but TP2 will most likely be up to the devs here at the XDA if they can do it. My feelings are that if they can get android going on TP2 (so far so good) then they can do windows mobile 7.
In my opinion, our devices are transition devices, most of us are waiting/hoping for a TP3 better than HD2, or at least with similar specifications as the HD2.
TP2 runs WP7, but it reminds me of my old Artemis with WM65 and TF2D, .
We´ll see it coming soon.
Cheers.
i have a blue angel runnign wm 6.5 so anything is possible especially if there is enough interest.
I understand why the move makes sense for MS but personally from what I've seen of WM7 I'm in no hurry for it to get here. Now if i could get my TP2 with a 1ghz cpu i might look at it but until the smart guys here at XDA figure out how to get past WM7's limitations i'm not in any rush to give up what I have.
It might be able to run it, but Microsoft and HTC aren't going to release anything needed to make an unofficial port happen. Sorry, but it's extremely likely that the TP2 is not going to get WM7, officially or otherwise.
And to everyone who always cites the example of Windows Mobile 6.5 running on an old device, I hate to break it to you but it's not that easy when dealing with WM7. Windows Mobile 7 is based off the Windows CE 6.0 kernel, while Windows Mobile 5 and 6.x are powered by the same CE 5.2 kernel, making a port of WM 6.x to a WM5 device pretty easy. It's much more difficult when you have a different kernel with from an OS that doesn't support most of your hardware, as it means someone has to create a BSP themselves.
No multi-tasking = No dice for me! It'd be like a downgrade! Loving my TP2 with Deep Shining Rom. I use my phone for a whole manner of things, usually business orientated. If I wanted the type of phone the Windows mobile 7 looks like it's gonna introduce, I would've bought an IPhone!
Does anyone have the MeeGo rom for HTC Desire ? i just saw a dutch site with a video with Desire running MeeGo
http://www.htcdesireblog.nl/video/htc-desire-draait-op-meego-rom/
afaik there isnt a single nokia out with meego OS on it, nor will it be this year
i seriously doubt thats meego running - more like some chinese copycat OS?
more info here: h ttp://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
Wow, looks just like an ugly custom themed android!
Has anyone tried this in person? Seems pretty slow atm, but I think Meego will turn out pretty awesome
Also, how do I install it? Just flash it?
Anybody working From XDA
After watching NOKIA N9 OS i desperately want that on my DESIRE
i found this Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnfHNjcdzg
any update what is working or not???
i was about to start new thread on XDA but someone has already made googling always help
but thats not the same OS running on the N9. the version shown in the video looks like an android clone. The N9 runs MeeGo "Harmattan" 1.2
would love to get it on my desire. or maybe I'm getting the N9, as I can pick a new phone by january
I wonder if meego can really run in Desire without any problems.
I would also want to try it on my Desire if it can run perfectly
I am planning to get a new phone in summer next year, I believe Desire has served me long enough till then (2 years) let see what I can find and afford at that time.
I think it'll run on a desire. The N9 is not a dual core monster and the OS doesnt look like its stuffed with too many things (unlike sense).
Looking forward to the release
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meh, that meego thing looks really slow and poorly optimised.. can almost guarantee it would be really crap on the desire.. and wouldn't even come close to the versatility of android...
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meh, that meego thing looks really slow and poorly optimised.. can almost guarantee it would be really crap on the desire.. and wouldn't even come close to the versatility of android...
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I also dont see what people like about this meego either. Android all the way
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I also dont see what people like about this meego either. Android all the way
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It is not about meego, WP7 or android...it is about the flashing addiction...perhaps we can flash meego too....LOL
Why do you need meego, when we got experienced developper porting and developping Sense 2.1 and 3.0 rom like InsertCoin for our Desire !
If you just want to flash to flash well...
killerofsniper said:
Why do you need meego, when we got experienced developper porting and developping Sense 2.1 and 3.0 rom like InsertCoin for our Desire !
If you just want to flash to flash well...
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I also dont see what people like about this meego either. Android all the way
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Because MeeGo is more open source than Android in several aspects. MeeGo is more like a typical linux distribution, without dalvik or that ****s. MeeGo can run Linux and Android application with minimal efforts, and of course, it's uses gnome libs and QT on Top to provide a very nicely user experience... Android is based on linux, but it took a different way, too different, and I think it is a wrong desicion.
I have to admit I really like Meego, but still prefer Android. And on Desire? No way..
how to flash it?
where i can fine meego image and for comile kernel desire for support desire ?
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD#HTC_Desire
Very early , nothing works yet not even touchscreen, plus I think you'll have to compile the kernel yourself
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Hy,
Do you think it will be possible to have the dual boot one this tablett ?
JCLB said:
Hy,
Do you think it will be possible to have the dual boot one this tablett ?
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People just don't learn...
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Hy,
Do you think it will be possible to have the dual boot one this tablett ?
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Possible = yes
Probable = no
Windows 8 is impossible since it only runs on x86 systems. Windows RT would be the way to go, however it is closed source, which renders the possibility to zero.
Won't happen anytime soon since RT isn't being released to the public, probably for this exact reason. While it would be cool, the two OS dual booted would just be slow if possible at all due to the limited storage space. Also I rather like rooting and getting apps for free which I'm pretty sure you can't do with the microsoft market.
As discussed many other times, this is not likely to happen any time soon (licensing issues aside).
Since this topic has been discussed to death, AND this is NOT a development thread, I am just closing this here.
Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.
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Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.
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So great! Looking for an official release
It looks like the Desire is just at the minimum requirements for this, except that the Desire's Snapdragon system-on-chip is ARM Coretex A8 not the "required" A9.
I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?
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I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?
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You miss read it. Its not the mobile os that needs dual-core its the docking thing where it runs the full desktop.
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cool i'll wait for it
Thou were struggling to get the latest version of android.
People dream too much . Wake up and smell the coffee.
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well why not we have other choices for os on our phones ? i think it could be a new era on phones os and who knows even more ...
I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))
Yes we can hope that with both Ubuntu and Firefox OS will let us control our devices. The future of smartphone OS look bright :laugh: By the way I don't think canonical is planning to port ubuntu for old or low-range phones for now. Especially since they might encounter performance issues. The community might have to work hard to port it on devices like the HTC Desire
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I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))
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Good luck I hope it does eventually get ported to a usable fashion. Thou I am being realistic.
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Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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It depends lets hope that we will have a version soon enough !!
Yes, lets get this to the Desire.
Or atleast an custom Android ROM with all the features and look.
i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:
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i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:
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Anything news about this?
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me too !!
i hope Ubuntu OS and Firefox OS can run in HTC DESIRE .....
htc desire only single core
i think ubuntu os phone can't support for desire ....
desire just single core...:crying:
It looks to me that our processor may just fall under the requirements, also it says the device will require 4gb internal storage. That may be a problem, as long as the system files are less than 250mb it should be possible using some sort of reverse mount with sd card
interesting. But I also suppose that our three years old smartphone won't be "fast" enough for it
Hello everyone, it is possible to receive custom ROM "Android O" for our Zenfone 2 ???
O was just announced, we're going to have to wait a little longer before we can know if it's possible, and a lot longer before it's actually built.
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O was just announced, we're going to have to wait a little longer before we can know if it's possible, and a lot longer before it's actually built.
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It's a good thing you answered first. I would not have been as diplomatic. Lol
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Here comes ETA posts
Yes, it is posible but first need the sources and the sources are released after the official version is pushed to Nexus devices, maybe in October September will have and alpha version of Android O
Completely possible, thru custom ROMs
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Completely possible, thru custom ROMs
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I wouldn't say completely. Google is laying out minimum hardware requirements for stuff like audio, vr and ar which our old phone may not mean.
But do I have confidence that our devs will make everything else work? Yes, completely. Although it's gonna take a long time. I will be elated if N hits stable.
Since the question of this topic can't really be answered, someone knows how long statistically can a device be supported by custom roms? I mean maybe Android Z is too far fetched, but android P for example?
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Since the question of this topic can't really be answered, someone knows how long statistically can a device be supported by custom roms? I mean maybe Android Z is too far fetched, but android P for example?
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Same answer as before, it all depends on hardware requirements
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Thanks all for different opinions and answers
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I wouldn't say completely. Google is laying out minimum hardware requirements for stuff like audio, vr and ar which our old phone may not mean.
But do I have confidence that our devs will make everything else work? Yes, completely. Although it's gonna take a long time. I will be elated if N hits stable.
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well my current daily driver is an AOKP 7.1.1 Nougat on my Zenfone Max ZC550KL with no bugs so we can hope the same for O when Lineage OS releases its own version.
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Same answer as before, it all depends on hardware requirements
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Hardware is the least of our problems, considering the one in Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML for example) is more than adequate.
Google making up it's own hardware requirements is nothing more than pandering to the idea of planned obsolescence to be honest so that they can sell newest phones.
I think that if the devs can get their hands on viable drivers that support the hardware in our devices and are compatible with Android 8, then technically, it shouldn't be an issue.
For Oreo, google would be pushing certain updates (fixes, etc.) not as a standalone feature, but something that would work in the same way as Windows and MacOS system updates do within the same OS version.
We know Windows updates usually work on a variety of hardware if the Windows as an OS is the same... the only thing that you also need are drivers to properly support the hardware in question (which can be difficult if the hardware is ancient, but I doubt this would apply to Zenfone 2) - this especially applies to upgrading from say Windows 7 to Windows 10 for example as some features like a microphone might stop working if the hardware in question was say from 10 years ago. Works on say Windows 7 for example because Vista drivers were made for the hardware in question which were compatible with Windows 7 to a point, but for Windows 10, compatibility between drivers for older Windows was not maintained and new drivers need to be written.
So, large OS replacement would likely depend on hardware drivers support and updating the OS sequentially shouldn't be an issue if the drivers exist - if they don't... then it's a problem.
Manufacturers tend to stop supporting hardware after a certain time... OEM's are even worse.
If we can find drivers independently from a company that produced it, then it might be possible to find more recent drivers that work.
In case of GPU's (or any other hardware inside your PC), you wouldn't rely on the OEM for drivers. You'd go to AMD's or Nvidia's websites to download latest drivers.
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