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Was wondering, are people interested in a Mango port for the Defy/Defy+ phones?...
Just curious how many people are interested. Might try to learn all these porting stuff, just for the sake of having a different OS on my phone.
huh ? ? mango instead of icecream?
Not go too much into detail but as long as the bootloader for Defy is locked it's impossible to port another OS to Defy.
Yes. Mango instead of Ice Cream. It might sound nuts, but Mango is quite a stable OS plus its performance is better (heard some guys from the HD2 forum that, for example, HD2 with Mango has a better battery than HD2 with ICS.)
Also, it's a stable OS, you get only what apps you really need. It's not an OS for gaming, for example.
Just saying.
it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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If possible ... Then yeah .. go go go!
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mpiekp said:
it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.
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HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.
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????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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Idea
I was reading about FUSE on linux, maybe is possible to create something like a VM, and then use WP 7.5 running on android... i'm just guessing, cause FUSE runs on linux, i think because the kernel MUST work on android, is possible to do something like that???
Emulating an os on such limited resources is a crazy idea, but may be doable, if our kernel supports it (unlikely) as we are still stuck with motos kernel.
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????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.
Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....
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Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....
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Isn't about knowledge. isn't possible because we can't change the android kernel because the locked bootloader, and WP doesn't run on a linux kernel, and on the other hand i agree with mpiekp, emulating isn't a good choice...
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HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.
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Yeah, wp7 is spoofed by pretending the hd2 is a hd7, only works for almost identical hardware, not for a different chipset. Find a wp7 rom from identical hardware then you stand a chance, once your passed the bootloader issue.
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The HD7 was essentially an HD2 with another badge.
You stand zero chance of doing this, even with an unlocked bootloader... I'm not aware of any OMAP based devices on WP7, I may be wrong there, but it's still pretty much impossible, given the fact you just have device specific binaries for WP7...
dude, this only make sense if mirosoft share their code
wp7 worked on hd2 because, a test rom was leaked where htc was working on wp7 using hd2 for their internal testing, hence got working drivers.
So basically we need a phone with similar specs as our phone so then we can see if the drivers work here. (Most wp7 phones use qualcomm chips so bad news there)
Even then i guess it would be hard task if not impossible to load windows on a locked bootloader which can only load a linux kernel
Even if we had an unlocked bootloader and drivers for WP7, there still would be an other issue: screen resolution. All WP7 devices have a 480x800 screen, and the Defy(+) has a 480x854 one, so the UI is incompatible.
Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.
niki1999kir said:
Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.
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So great! Looking for an official release
It looks like the Desire is just at the minimum requirements for this, except that the Desire's Snapdragon system-on-chip is ARM Coretex A8 not the "required" A9.
I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?
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I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?
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You miss read it. Its not the mobile os that needs dual-core its the docking thing where it runs the full desktop.
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cool i'll wait for it
Thou were struggling to get the latest version of android.
People dream too much . Wake up and smell the coffee.
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well why not we have other choices for os on our phones ? i think it could be a new era on phones os and who knows even more ...
I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))
Yes we can hope that with both Ubuntu and Firefox OS will let us control our devices. The future of smartphone OS look bright :laugh: By the way I don't think canonical is planning to port ubuntu for old or low-range phones for now. Especially since they might encounter performance issues. The community might have to work hard to port it on devices like the HTC Desire
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I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))
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Good luck I hope it does eventually get ported to a usable fashion. Thou I am being realistic.
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Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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It depends lets hope that we will have a version soon enough !!
Yes, lets get this to the Desire.
Or atleast an custom Android ROM with all the features and look.
i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:
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i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:
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Anything news about this?
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me too !!
i hope Ubuntu OS and Firefox OS can run in HTC DESIRE .....
htc desire only single core
i think ubuntu os phone can't support for desire ....
desire just single core...:crying:
It looks to me that our processor may just fall under the requirements, also it says the device will require 4gb internal storage. That may be a problem, as long as the system files are less than 250mb it should be possible using some sort of reverse mount with sd card
interesting. But I also suppose that our three years old smartphone won't be "fast" enough for it
I was about to buy a OnePlus One, but on finding out about the Asus Zenfone 2, decided to hold until concrete pricing and reviews of the Zenfone 2 (the 1080p, 4 GB RAM, higher-clock CPU version) come in.
My main concern is about the Intel CPU inside the Zenfone 2. While its raw performance apparently beats the Snapdragon 801 in the OnePlus One (comparisons at fool.com/investing/general/2014/06/05/how-does-intels-atom-z3580-hold-up-against-qualcom.aspx), I'm worried about how much third-party devs and ROM-makers care about non-ARM/Qualcomm chipsets. I'm not sure about how quick and diligent Asus is with OS updates, and I'm not sure I'd be happy enough with their ZenUI ROM. I'd definitely like the option of alternative custom ROMs like CM, for example.
Do you think the Zenfone 2 will attract considerable dev interest to have a decent community of custom ROMs behind it? Or will a user probably be stuck with the manufacturer ROM and be at the mercy of Asus for OS updates?
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I was about to buy a OnePlus One, but on finding out about the Asus Zenfone 2, decided to hold until concrete pricing and reviews of the Zenfone 2 (the 1080p, 4 GB RAM, higher-clock CPU version) come in.
My main concern is about the Intel CPU inside the Zenfone 2. While its raw performance apparently beats the Snapdragon 801 in the OnePlus One (comparisons at fool.com/investing/general/2014/06/05/how-does-intels-atom-z3580-hold-up-against-qualcom.aspx), I'm worried about how much third-party devs and ROM-makers care about non-ARM/Qualcomm chipsets. I'm not sure about how quick and diligent Asus is with OS updates, and I'm not sure I'd be happy enough with their ZenUI ROM. I'd definitely like the option of alternative custom ROMs like CM, for example.
Do you think the Zenfone 2 will attract considerable dev interest to have a decent community of custom ROMs behind it? Or will a user probably be stuck with the manufacturer ROM and be at the mercy of Asus for OS updates?
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Probably will not because of the intel chip but the good news is the custom lolipop rom is awesome!!!! No need for a custom rom
will will have root but thats about it
Asus is generally pretty good with updates, and with so much riding on this flagship, it won't lose the spotlight for a while. Developmentally, I'm expecting something along the lines of how the Xperia Z3 went, slow but steady. The LG and HTC will probably have more out of the gate, but considering their price tags, and the fact that it's nothing new, the ZF2 is what I'll be working with for the time being.
I think we will get some good custom roms like PA and CM. Only time will tell, and fortunately the processor. The previous zenfone had some custom roms, just with some complicated issues (likewise) but yeah we should get some custom roms
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I think we will get some good custom roms like PA and CM. Only time will tell, and fortunately the processor. The previous zenfone had some custom roms, just with some complicated issues (likewise) but yeah we should get some custom roms
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because of the Intel chip, we can't get custom rooms. We will be lucky for root or recovery
Darn Intel chip
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Darn Intel chip
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because of the Intel chip, we can't get custom rooms. We will be lucky for root or recovery
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What is it about the Intel chip that would stunt the rom development of the Zenfone and similar SoC devices?
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What is it about the Intel chip that would stunt the rom development of the Zenfone and similar SoC devices?
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I don't know, ASUS always shares kernel source, there is x86, x64 AOSP source, the intel specs are mostly known. So it wouldn't be impossible to make a rom boot on the phone, but for full functionality we would need compatible binary blobs or more open documentation. But I'm more and more inclined to try it.
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I don't know, ASUS always shares kernel source, there is x86, x64 AOSP source, the intel specs are mostly known. So it wouldn't be impossible to make a rom boot on the phone, but for full functionality we would need compatible binary blobs or more open documentation. But I'm more and more inclined to try it.
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I see, well it's good to know Asus is open enough and the Intel support isn't locked away or anything. I trust that the highly capable persons and the ones like you who want to give it a shot will find ways to getting things off the ground once the time comes.
Fingers-crossed for readily available Intel chip support so even if everything starts slow, we'd still have the chance to bring out the device's best potential!
I'm very, very keen on the Zenfone 2, but if the Intel architecture will mean unavailability of complete, fully functional custom ROMs like CyanogenMod, I might think twice and opt for the OnePlus One, instead.
One of my greatest regrets with my last phone purchase (the Sony Xperia SL) was the low developer interest. The Xperia S had some, but the SL was far less popular, and using a ROM designed for the S meant losing out on the extra 200 MHz of processor speed, primarily.
I'm taking a look at the stuff here, and I think I can work with it. I do take some exception to the somewhat costly tools, however.
I think the Zenfone 2 will have a decent backing in terms of ROMs and such, considering the price range and what the phone is capable of.
Probably going to be one of the best value phones this year.
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I'm taking a look at the stuff here, and I think I can work with it. I do take some exception to the somewhat costly tools, however.
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I'm happy to hear that you'll at least be one of the persons willing to take up the challenge, since any effort made is better than none. I myself wouldn't mind being a rom builder or at least assist with with the process since I have prior experience with my current Moto Atrix 2. I'm still a novice so I can't do any level of coding or kanging.
Along those lines, I do hope Asus is cooperative enough to enable as open rom development as possible to ensure they that they will maintain our loyalty to the Zenfone 2 line. They absolutely need to avoid OTA update fragmentation, locked bootloaders and poor software update support to any issues we all face. If they really play their cards right, they'll definitely make this their and our year for a revolutionary device worth working with!
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I don't know, ASUS always shares kernel source, there is x86, x64 AOSP source, the intel specs are mostly known. So it wouldn't be impossible to make a rom boot on the phone, but for full functionality we would need compatible binary blobs or more open documentation. But I'm more and more inclined to try it.
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Do you know of AOSP roms on any device using an Intel Atom SoC/cpu?
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Do you know of AOSP roms on any device using an Intel Atom SoC/cpu?
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The Nexus Player runs AOSP, the codename is fugu.
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MiyagiSan said:
Do you know of AOSP roms on any device using an Intel Atom SoC/cpu?
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The Nexus Player runs AOSP, the codename is fugu.
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What I meant to ask was:
Do you know of AOSP roms like CM12 or Omni or PA on any smartphone or tablet using an Intel Atom SoC/cpu?
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What I meant to ask was:
Do you know of AOSP roms like CM12 or Omni or PA on any smartphone or tablet using an Intel Atom SoC/cpu?
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Here's the opportunity for you to make one.
hmm.. i think might buy this phone rather than meizu m1 note.
asus releases kernel source code for their device.
Today ASUS released Kernel Sourcecode for ZE550ML/ZE551ML:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZE550ML/zenfone2_2_12_40.zip
and for ZE500CL:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZE500CL/Z00D_12_16_4_2_kernel.zip
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Today ASUS released Kernel Sourcecode for ZE550ML/ZE551ML:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZE550ML/zenfone2_2_12_40.zip
and for ZE500CL:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZE500CL/Z00D_12_16_4_2_kernel.zip
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Wow, a prompt kernel source release is definitely a great sign that Asus is definitely planning to play their cards right! Looking forward to a healthy start to Zenfone 2 software development in April-May onwards for most of us by then.
Hello everyone, it is possible to receive custom ROM "Android O" for our Zenfone 2 ???
O was just announced, we're going to have to wait a little longer before we can know if it's possible, and a lot longer before it's actually built.
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O was just announced, we're going to have to wait a little longer before we can know if it's possible, and a lot longer before it's actually built.
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It's a good thing you answered first. I would not have been as diplomatic. Lol
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Here comes ETA posts
Yes, it is posible but first need the sources and the sources are released after the official version is pushed to Nexus devices, maybe in October September will have and alpha version of Android O
Completely possible, thru custom ROMs
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Completely possible, thru custom ROMs
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I wouldn't say completely. Google is laying out minimum hardware requirements for stuff like audio, vr and ar which our old phone may not mean.
But do I have confidence that our devs will make everything else work? Yes, completely. Although it's gonna take a long time. I will be elated if N hits stable.
Since the question of this topic can't really be answered, someone knows how long statistically can a device be supported by custom roms? I mean maybe Android Z is too far fetched, but android P for example?
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Since the question of this topic can't really be answered, someone knows how long statistically can a device be supported by custom roms? I mean maybe Android Z is too far fetched, but android P for example?
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Same answer as before, it all depends on hardware requirements
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Thanks all for different opinions and answers
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I wouldn't say completely. Google is laying out minimum hardware requirements for stuff like audio, vr and ar which our old phone may not mean.
But do I have confidence that our devs will make everything else work? Yes, completely. Although it's gonna take a long time. I will be elated if N hits stable.
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well my current daily driver is an AOKP 7.1.1 Nougat on my Zenfone Max ZC550KL with no bugs so we can hope the same for O when Lineage OS releases its own version.
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Same answer as before, it all depends on hardware requirements
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Hardware is the least of our problems, considering the one in Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML for example) is more than adequate.
Google making up it's own hardware requirements is nothing more than pandering to the idea of planned obsolescence to be honest so that they can sell newest phones.
I think that if the devs can get their hands on viable drivers that support the hardware in our devices and are compatible with Android 8, then technically, it shouldn't be an issue.
For Oreo, google would be pushing certain updates (fixes, etc.) not as a standalone feature, but something that would work in the same way as Windows and MacOS system updates do within the same OS version.
We know Windows updates usually work on a variety of hardware if the Windows as an OS is the same... the only thing that you also need are drivers to properly support the hardware in question (which can be difficult if the hardware is ancient, but I doubt this would apply to Zenfone 2) - this especially applies to upgrading from say Windows 7 to Windows 10 for example as some features like a microphone might stop working if the hardware in question was say from 10 years ago. Works on say Windows 7 for example because Vista drivers were made for the hardware in question which were compatible with Windows 7 to a point, but for Windows 10, compatibility between drivers for older Windows was not maintained and new drivers need to be written.
So, large OS replacement would likely depend on hardware drivers support and updating the OS sequentially shouldn't be an issue if the drivers exist - if they don't... then it's a problem.
Manufacturers tend to stop supporting hardware after a certain time... OEM's are even worse.
If we can find drivers independently from a company that produced it, then it might be possible to find more recent drivers that work.
In case of GPU's (or any other hardware inside your PC), you wouldn't rely on the OEM for drivers. You'd go to AMD's or Nvidia's websites to download latest drivers.
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Hello,
I'm new to cyanogen/lineage, and I become interested because so far the only experience I got with android is a phone that wasn't updated even once by the company (bq) and a tablet that will get stuck on 6.0 (motorola).
Therefore my main concern is to have updates for as long as possible.
I can see that many devices I'm interested in don't list any maintainer:
wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ (can't post links)
Does this mean that those phones won't get any new lineage version?
Is there a way to know if a phone will be abandoned sooner than others?
Is it better to buy well known device than a more rare brand?
Is it better to buy a high end phone used than a basic model new?
Any recommendations? I need a pretty simple thing, 4G is a must and dual SIM would be a nice feature. I'm not that interested in power screen resolution or camera.
Thanks a lot for your answers.
I have seen devices getting removed due to inactive maintainers. So hard to say any time.
I use a Moto Z. It's getting it's first build soon [emoji2]
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I want add another question to the thread. What will happen with 32 bit processors.
As far as I know, android 7 cannot be installed in any 32 bit processor. Will be the same with lineage? The equivalent version only will be compatible with 64 bit processors?
asimov-solensan said:
As far as I know, android 7 cannot be installed in any 32 bit processor. Will be the same with lineage? The equivalent version only will be compatible with 64 bit processors?
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What? Nougat works fine on 32 bit.
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What? Nougat works fine on 32 bit.
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I was sure that I read it somewhere, but it may be that this was comment from a particular brand.
If there is no limitation in this regard I feel more comfortable buying a used device with an older processor.