I just wondered if you could install Windows 8.1 on a tablet running Windows 8.1 RT?
No.
Are you sure? I have seen people how has done it
Håvi said:
Are you sure? I have seen people how has done it
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You havent. Windows 8.1 is for x86 processors. Windows RT 8.1 is for ARM. 2 are completely incompatible.
Yeah, even if you had a jailbreak for 8.1, it's (blatantly obviously, to anybody who knows the first thing about CPU instructions sets) not possible. The closest you could come would be installing Win8.1 in an x86 emulator. This is technically possible - for example, you can run Linux in an x86 emulator (built using JavaScript, of all things); http://bellard.org/jslinux - but it's slow as hell and the tablets don't really have enough resources (RAM, etc.) to make it practical even if the speed was great enough to be useful. Oh, and there isn't any jailbreak for 8.1 released yet so far as I know anyhow.
If you guys haven't heart about it: neverware.com
I have already installed it on old laptops. I wonder if I can do the same for the Surface RT? Is it possible through hacking, etc.?
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If you guys haven't heart about it: neverware.com
I have already installed it on old laptops. I wonder if I can do the same for the Surface RT? Is it possible through hacking, etc.?
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Only if it has support for ARM. We don't even have secure boot unlocked yet, so this isn't even close to possible until then. why don't you work on getting the secure boot unlocked? or work on porting apps to RT 8.1
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Windows 10 iot working on Windows RT
I was doing some searching the other day and came across a post on twitter where someone has managed to install Windows 10 iot for the Raspberry PI onto a Windows RT. Not sure if this is old news but, was thinking this could open some doors for progression on a fully working windows 10 rom.
Hi!
I wanna run Raspberry with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise. Is this possible?
I'm looking for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise download link. I search almost 3 hours but i couldn't find Iot Mobile Enterprise iso or something else.
Help please! Thank you.
It doesn't released yet (still).
[email protected]@f said:
It doesn't released yet (still).
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But what about https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsforbusiness/windows-iot ?
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows 10 that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. It is designed for powerful industry devices used in retail, manufacturing, healthcare, and other industries. Note: Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is a binary equivalent to Windows 10 Enterprise.
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@sensboston
morphinz said:
I'm looking for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise
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morphinz said:
Hi!
I wanna run Raspberry with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise. Is this possible?
I'm looking for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise download link. I search almost 3 hours but i couldn't find Iot Mobile Enterprise iso or something else.
Help please! Thank you.
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technically you can try integrate drivers from iot in to w10m and run efi boot loader on rpi2. I want try do this but I don't have rpi2, I have only rpi zero((
PS How I know w10m kernel can print errors in com port. it's can be useful...
@[email protected]@f, but he wants to run it on RPi (I believe "Raspberry" means "Raspberry Pi 2 or 3"), not a Windows Phone
P.S. I tried to run W10 IoT Core on my RPi 2 but got stuck on the "rainbow" screen (I believe it's a GPU test routine, OS loader wasn't executed at all).
@sensboston RPi is ARM, not x86
God damn it, I don't want to live in world where people have RPi but doesn't even know to what architecture its processor belongs. I live in country where buying bread is a problem.
@[email protected]@f, I don't understand you at all, what is your point? Windows 10 IoT Core runs on RPi 2/3 (arm CPU), the guy is looking (for some unknown reasons) for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise, the OS designed (according to MS) for the mobile phones.
So, the question wasn't correct; for "Raspberry" he needs a "Windows 10 IoT Core" (arm based), which one freely available on MS site.
And MS already released W10 IoT Enterprise but not for the arm CPU's.
P.S.
God damn it, I don't want to live in world where people have RPi but doesn't even know to what architecture its processor belongs. I live in country where buying bread is a problem.
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And that your statement is STUPID and OFFENSIVE.
@sensboston, If you didn't understand still, Windows 10 IoT Enterprise has nothing with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise. All your posts was unrelated to the topic. Why you even mentioned Windows 10 IoT Enterprise if you know that 1 - its the same as Windows 10 Enterprise, 2 - Windows 10 Enterprise have no ARM version and never will (as well as Windows 10 IoT Enterprise), 3 - RPi is ARM device.
And you continue argue that guy need Windows 10 IoT Enterprise because he have RPi, so he doesn't need Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise (while its only ARM OS from IoT series with shell, even though it unreleased yet). Your statements are absurd.
@[email protected]@f, nobody promised that Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise should support RPi! This version of Windows 10 can't run on Raspberry Pi devices at all. Do you understand this?
Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise is a direct relative of Windows 10 Mobile OS (powering Windows Phones) which is in turn tracing it’s roots to Windows 8 Phone and all the way back to Windows CE. Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise is built to power enterprise mobile, handheld devices (like these barcode scanners used in warehouses to quickly identify and sort goods). Being a Windows Mobile relative, this OS can only run Windows Universal applications, no support for classic desktop applications.
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And I said, this guy needs Windows 10 IoT Core in my previous message.
P.S. JFYI, Microsoft already released "Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise" a long time ago but it's not available for general public (only for specific MSDN subscribers and partners).
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-updates-windows-10-iot-adds-new-core-pro-version/
Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise, Version 1511 is now available to MSDN subscribers. The download file is 611KM as the image includes only the XML file that you have to deploy on any Windows 10 Mobile device to turn on the Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise features on it. There is no full image in the case of phone as it is delivered as an OTA (over the air) update," a Microsoft spokesperson confirmed.
The Enterprise version of Windows 10 Mobile ultimately will include a number of the same enterprise features that Windows 10 Enterprise does. As the slide embedded above from Microsoft's recent Ignite Australia conference mentioned, the Enterprise Data Protection functionality won't be available in final form until summer 2016.
Microsoft is positioning Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise as being suited for industry devices like ATMs, retail point of sale and handheld terminals. Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise is for Windows Phones and small Intel and ARM tablets.
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@sensboston, Again, you miss the point. Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise has nothing with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise
Maybe you should google first some about topic before posting. Google Windows IoT editions at least.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69064635&postcount=136
@[email protected]@f, have you ever read what I posted here?! Show me the damn word "Raspberry PI"!
Microsoft is positioning Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise as being suited for industry devices like ATMs, retail point of sale and handheld terminals. Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise is for Windows Phones and small Intel and ARM tablets.
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Sorry, I don't want to waste my time for the newbies like you anymore.
P.S. To the topic starter only (to be in topic): it's NOT POSSIBLE, there is no such a thing like Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise for Raspberry Pi, it's NOT EXIST! You can't get portable Windows 10 device able to run GUI UWP apps for $35 RPi. What you can get: working Windows 10 IoT Core without GUI.
Guys i think i have what you want
Check this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wi...dows-phone-windows-10-mobile-surface-t3365743
@sensboston I don't know from where you took this quote (when you post quote it's good practice to link to the source, to not seem like ranter), but Microsoft officially didn't announced or someway positioned Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise, because it doesn't released yet.
And @Ferrybigger post just ruined all your argumentation about that Windows Phone couldn't be run on ARM or whatever you want (FYI Surface RT runs on Tegra 3). Microsoft never promised that Windows Phone could be run on Surface RT. But it does. Who is amateur now?
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@sensboston I don't know from where you took this quote (when you post quote it's good practice to link to the source, to not seem like ranter), but Microsoft officially didn't announced or someway positioned Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise, because it doesn't released yet.
And @Ferrybigger post just ruined all your argumentation about that Windows Phone couldn't be run on ARM or whatever you want (FYI Surface RT runs on Tegra 3). Microsoft never promised that Windows Phone could be run on Surface RT. But it does. Who is amateur now?
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Well I can tell you who I think has the comprehension problem, and it's the person that keeps saying "it doesn't released yet."
It has been released, and it is the same as Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise. (edit: see page 5 of this PDF: ah, I can't post links, yet. google Create your Industry device with Windows 10 IoT and it's the first link.)
Also, I think we're talking about official ways to do it, not unofficial ways that Microsoft might patch in the future. Besides, ARM devices are not all the same. What runs on a Tegra might not run on a Raspberry Pi. For example, a Tegra 3 runs the ARMv7 architecture, while the Raspberry Pi 3 runs ARMv8-A architecture. Those are very different things, though some compatibility does exist between them.
So, Microsoft just announced Windows 10 on ARM. But not just some stripped down, Windows Phone/RT variant, like W10M. This is full Windows 10.
It also has support for the full x86 win32 library of applications, with some emulation magic that they put in, which appears to run blazingly fast somehow.
What an incredible feat this emulation is.
But my question is: What does this mean for us, Windows RT users?
I want to put this in the Windows RT Development and Hacking section, but I haven't made enough posts n stuff
Nothing at all. The announcement is Windows 10 for ARM64, which is of no use to Windows RT devices, that use 32-bit ARM v7.
I am hoping this will mean a new non-Pro Surface with Windows 10 ARM will be coming. But yeah, nothing for Windows RT devices.
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Nothing at all. The announcement is Windows 10 for ARM64, which is of no use to Windows RT devices, that use 32-bit ARM v7.
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Shame. But is there a possible way that we could maybe make it run? How different is the architecture? How hard would it be? Would they make an edition for ARM32?
Our WinRT tablets are finished with when it comes to any further work.
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Microsoft just announced Windows 10 S, a version of Windows based that's focused on Security and Speed. This version of Windows can't run .exe app, but can run things on the Windows Store. With this newer Windows 10 S, would It be hard for them to port it over to the older ARMv7 because there are alot more Windows 10 Store apps than there are Windows 8 store apps, and it might actually make me get a Surface 2 for on the side stuff.
Its possible Win10S will get ported and someone will figure out how to upgrade our RT devices with it..
But not yet as far as I can tell. Although someone got Win10 iOT with some work on the RT systems.
Possibly yes: https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2017/06/23/windows_10_leak/
Isn't windows 10 S only for arm64? Windows RT devices are 32-bit arm
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