If you guys haven't heart about it: neverware.com
I have already installed it on old laptops. I wonder if I can do the same for the Surface RT? Is it possible through hacking, etc.?
ccoltmanm said:
If you guys haven't heart about it: neverware.com
I have already installed it on old laptops. I wonder if I can do the same for the Surface RT? Is it possible through hacking, etc.?
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Only if it has support for ARM. We don't even have secure boot unlocked yet, so this isn't even close to possible until then. why don't you work on getting the secure boot unlocked? or work on porting apps to RT 8.1
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Windows 10 iot working on Windows RT
I was doing some searching the other day and came across a post on twitter where someone has managed to install Windows 10 iot for the Raspberry PI onto a Windows RT. Not sure if this is old news but, was thinking this could open some doors for progression on a fully working windows 10 rom.
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Hi all,
I ended up downloading all the versions of the RT Jailbreak tool but still haven't succeeded to jailbreak windows RT on my Samsung Ativ Tab.
Any idea what could be the problem?
When I press volume down, it crashes and displays the blue screen with the REFERENCE_BY_POINTER error.
I installed all the updates, gave it about one to two minutes each time I ran it but still couldn't jailbreak.
I even restored the tab to factory settings but the jailbreak tool still fails.
Anyone who has done it on the ativ tab?
crackero said:
Hi all,
I ended up downloading all the versions of the RT Jailbreak tool but still haven't succeeded to jailbreak windows RT on my Samsung Ativ Tab.
Any idea what could be the problem?
When I press volume down, it crashes and displays the blue screen with the REFERENCE_BY_POINTER error.
I installed all the updates, gave it about one to two minutes each time I ran it but still couldn't jailbreak.
I even restored the tab to factory settings but the jailbreak tool still fails.
Anyone who has done it on the ativ tab?
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Jailbreak? Do you mean trying to get past the required purchase of Windows? That sort of thing is not allowed on this site.
What exactly is "jailbreak" for an RT?
stevedebi said:
Jailbreak? Do you mean trying to get past the required purchase of Windows? That sort of thing is not allowed on this site.
What exactly is "jailbreak" for an RT?
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No, it's not that at all.
It's a way to allow for running programs compiled for ARM that are not signed by Microsoft directly. Without a jailbreak, you can only run apps that have the Microsoft signing.
There's a big thread about the jailbreak, and then apps that have been recompiled but aren't signed by MS so they require the jailbreak to run.
RT Jailbreak Tool
Desktop Apps Ported to RT
OP should ask in the RT jailbreak thread.
goofball2k said:
No, it's not that at all.
It's a way to allow for running programs compiled for ARM that are not signed by Microsoft directly. Without a jailbreak, you can only run apps that have the Microsoft signing.
There's a big thread about the jailbreak, and then apps that have been recompiled but aren't signed by MS so they require the jailbreak to run.
RT Jailbreak Tool
Desktop Apps Ported to RT
OP should ask in the RT jailbreak thread.
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I have a Samsung ATIV Tablet and AFAIK, all ATIV tabs run the Intel Clovertrail - that is an x86 machine - is the OP sure that he even has RT. ATIV comes with Windows 8
docfreed said:
I have a Samsung ATIV Tablet and AFAIK, all ATIV tabs run the Intel Clovertrail - that is an x86 machine - is the OP sure that he even has RT. ATIV comes with Windows 8
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http://www.samsung.com/global/ativ/ativ_tab.html
There are some that run RT. I think the Tab's are the ones that run RT, the ATIV Smart are the ones that run x86.
goofball2k said:
http://www.samsung.com/global/ativ/ativ_tab.html
There are some that run RT. I think the Tab's are the ones that run RT, the ATIV Smart are the ones that run x86.
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OK - mine's a SmartPC Pro - runs Win8
Anybody know if it'd be possible to install Windows 8 on an Intel-based smartphone such as Droid Razr i? The device should theoretically be compatible with Windows 8 as it's just using a pretty standard Intel Atom x86 CPU. The 32-bit version of Windows 8 should work. Anybody tried this before or know how I could approach this?
This should be revisited. The Asus Zenfone 2 came out and specs-wise, it is more powerful than many tablets out there.
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This should be revisited. The Asus Zenfone 2 came out and specs-wise, it is more powerful than many tablets out there.
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Agreed! However, back when I asked this question, some people said it was not possible due to lack of driver support and possibly some issue with the bootloader. But when has that ever stopped XDA? This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone.
"This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone."
I completely agree with you. Chances are MS won't let Asus make this happen but Windows 10 Pro in your pocket and it can send/receive calls+text messages? What's next?...Snapchat?? - one can dream.
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"This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone."
I completely agree with you. Chances are MS won't let Asus make this happen but Windows 10 Pro in your pocket and it can send/receive calls+text messages? What's next?...Snapchat?? - one can dream.
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It doesn't matter if Microsoft allows it or not. I'm sure people will be able to get an unlocked bootloader for this phone or make one if Asus doesn't provide it. From there, I'd imagine it'd be something along thing lines of pre-installing Windows 10 onto a microSD card and then boot from it on the phone. The hard part would be making it boot and finding the necessary drivers. I wish I'd know more about where to start but my development skills are more centered around app development, not necessarily OS and hardware.
"I'd imagine it'd be something along thing lines of pre-installing Windows 10 onto a microSD card and then boot from it on the phone. "
Please don't make me wants this more than I already do...
I just wondered if you could install Windows 8.1 on a tablet running Windows 8.1 RT?
No.
Are you sure? I have seen people how has done it
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Are you sure? I have seen people how has done it
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You havent. Windows 8.1 is for x86 processors. Windows RT 8.1 is for ARM. 2 are completely incompatible.
Yeah, even if you had a jailbreak for 8.1, it's (blatantly obviously, to anybody who knows the first thing about CPU instructions sets) not possible. The closest you could come would be installing Win8.1 in an x86 emulator. This is technically possible - for example, you can run Linux in an x86 emulator (built using JavaScript, of all things); http://bellard.org/jslinux - but it's slow as hell and the tablets don't really have enough resources (RAM, etc.) to make it practical even if the speed was great enough to be useful. Oh, and there isn't any jailbreak for 8.1 released yet so far as I know anyhow.
So, Microsoft just announced Windows 10 on ARM. But not just some stripped down, Windows Phone/RT variant, like W10M. This is full Windows 10.
It also has support for the full x86 win32 library of applications, with some emulation magic that they put in, which appears to run blazingly fast somehow.
What an incredible feat this emulation is.
But my question is: What does this mean for us, Windows RT users?
I want to put this in the Windows RT Development and Hacking section, but I haven't made enough posts n stuff
Nothing at all. The announcement is Windows 10 for ARM64, which is of no use to Windows RT devices, that use 32-bit ARM v7.
I am hoping this will mean a new non-Pro Surface with Windows 10 ARM will be coming. But yeah, nothing for Windows RT devices.
:<
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Nothing at all. The announcement is Windows 10 for ARM64, which is of no use to Windows RT devices, that use 32-bit ARM v7.
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Shame. But is there a possible way that we could maybe make it run? How different is the architecture? How hard would it be? Would they make an edition for ARM32?
Our WinRT tablets are finished with when it comes to any further work.
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Microsoft just announced Windows 10 S, a version of Windows based that's focused on Security and Speed. This version of Windows can't run .exe app, but can run things on the Windows Store. With this newer Windows 10 S, would It be hard for them to port it over to the older ARMv7 because there are alot more Windows 10 Store apps than there are Windows 8 store apps, and it might actually make me get a Surface 2 for on the side stuff.
Its possible Win10S will get ported and someone will figure out how to upgrade our RT devices with it..
But not yet as far as I can tell. Although someone got Win10 iOT with some work on the RT systems.
Possibly yes: https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2017/06/23/windows_10_leak/
Isn't windows 10 S only for arm64? Windows RT devices are 32-bit arm
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