I took my oneplus 3 for a brief swim. I blame new fatherhood. It inhaled a lot of water. I turned it off, dried it, and put it in rice for a couple days. Soon after turning it off, it started getting hot. I'm guessing something important is dead. I'd like to go through the process of fixing it. I have to replace the rear camera which stopped focusing anyway.
Here's where I'm at now.
1. The battery charges.
2. The screen works.
3. It boots up in developer mode or whatever the volume button down + power is.
4. Phone won't boot into OS.
My plan from this point forward:
1. Open up phone and inspect.
2. Clean components.
3. Test with pc and go through unbrick guide.
4. Order and replace broken parts.
Questions:
1. Is there a diagnostic I could run to figure out what is broken?
2. If I'm replacing something major, would it be fairly straightforward and worth the effort to replace the internal components with 3T components?
3. Anything else I should keep in mind or any thoughts on what is likely wrong with the phone?
I guess by letting it dry and then turn it on again you killed something in your phone.
Water has always a bit salt and minerals in it and once the phone these minerals are still left and can cause various short circuits.
I know its too late now, but what you should have done is turning the phone down after the accident and then wash it out with destilled water to wash out the minerals and after that let it dry.
For example blackboxes of crashed planes are left in a box with salty water and then it gets replaced more and more with destilled water.
I'd recommend you to visit a phone fixing shop. Finding the problem by yourself will be pretty tricky without the right tools.
MarcTremonti said:
I guess by letting it dry and then turn it on again you killed something in your phone.
Water has always a bit salt and minerals in it and once the phone these minerals are still left and can cause various short circuits.
I know its too late now, but what you should have done is turning the phone down after the accident and then wash it out with destilled water to wash out the minerals and after that let it dry.
For example blackboxes of crashed planes are left in a box with salty water and then it gets replaced more and more with destilled water.
I'd recommend you to visit a phone fixing shop. Finding the problem by yourself will be pretty tricky without the right tools.
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Thanks. That makes sense. My suspicion is still that the damage occurred prior to turning the phone off, as the off phone kept heating up as if something was causing a massive battery drain. This will be helpful next time. Ugh, next time. There better not be a next time.
As I've yet to start taking the phone apart, I'm still pretty determined to troubleshoot it myself as much as I can. So any other suggestions people have would be appreciated. I've been quite unimpressed with the techs around here...
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I accidentaly put my rhodium in the washing machine (forgot to check my jeans pockets) and it was in there for a few minutes.
When I noticed I took out the battery, SD card and sim card and dryed everything with a towel. I then put it in a bowl of rice for day (read that tip online somewhere) to drain out any excess moisture.
It seems to be completely dry now from the outside, although I can't say for sure about the insides. It still won't turn on.
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
you get points for positive thinking.
sorry to say, but your toy has had it.
woeds said:
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
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Sounds to me like you need to make use of that insurance policy that you sensibly bought for your TP2.
I read somewhere on xda forum that sometimes wet devices would turn on after a couple of days...
If you're not in a hurry, maybe wait some time... but don't hope too much
Wow! got to be more careful next time. This is a very expensive phone. Got to take real good care of it.... "Handle with care"
I guess wait at least 72 hours before turning it on back again and not before that.... else will be RIP.
btw, if your phone is "ON" while in the washer...forget about, get a new one.
One thing to try, sometimes batteries will self destruct and save the phone. Get a replacement and see if it powers up, I know that worked with one I took into the pool a couple years ago.
A hiardryer on very low heat setting normally works quite well for removing moisture
Damn, that's a bummer...
I'd try someone elses battery, but wouldn't expect miracles to happen...
how you didnt know is beyond me! i hope you get it sorted and take more care next time i dont believe it
White rice trick
Here is a trick, take out the battery and put the phone in a bag of white rice. Make sure it's completely covered with rice!. Leave it there for at least 72 hours.
This trick worked on my wife's iPhone. It was revived after being completely dead for 3 days.
Hope it helps.
dam man! thats bad luck!
i hope you use a top brand softener with it other than that it would be sacrilege
one of my phone fell in the toilet once, i removed the battery and took it apart and the washed it with alcohol [not the drinking type] after a day drying it worked just fine.
some phones will work without the battery if connected to the charger. You could try that to see if it's the battery. If you're willing to take it apart there's a spray technicians use to remove all moisture. I've been told never to apply hear (so if you use a hairdryer use one with a cold setting), and yeah, just wait, make sure it's gotten rid of ALL the moisture, and hope for the best. If all the moisture isn't gone, you could short circuit it by trying to turn it on.
My charmer fell into the toilet one evening when I was very drunk. It went of immediately but being too drunk I took it home and left it as it was. The next morning I gave it the hairdryer treatment but it still didnt power up. I threw the phone under my bed and left it for dead. About 4 nights later I woke up at night and I saw 'the light' from under my bed, on closer look my charmer was miraculously switched on. I tried to charge it but it just showed a red light. Later that day I tried again and it started to charge.
The phone went on to serve me without any problems for about 6 more months and I eventually sold it for £80.
Moral of the story; You could get lucky (fingers crossed)
The water itself does not cause the short circuiting. You need purified water to cleans it from the salt and other particles that cause the short circuit.
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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This is true. While it is possible to safe an electronic device after a soaking for a while, once it has been doused in water, unfortunately, its lifespan is already shortened. If you get it working again, it might last a few months, or even a year. But eventually, corrosion WILL claim it. It might be possible to open it up, and clean every contact, every piece of solder, copper or electronic pathway. If you do that, then maybe you can keep it from corroding.
My roommate lost his phone during winter. Come to find out, he had dropped it in the snow When it melted he found it. It was dead for a few days till it dried out. Then it worked again for about 5-6 months then finally died completely due to corrosion.
Good luck.
Saved about 10 different phones, some multiply times and many other electronic devices, from pools, ocean, garden hoses, sprinklers.
Most important thing is to remove the battery, IMMEDIATELY. We are talking seconds the better, don't think, rip it out. The battery will power up the short circuits and cause the damage. Leaving the battery in for only a minute may be enough time to fcuk something.
Ok preparing
Disassemble the phone as much as possible, the more the quicker it will dry. If the water was salty or dirty , wash them under the tap trying to get into everything.( I am serious)
To dry(cook
Test you oven temp is accurate from 40c to 50c with temperature probe. Set temperature to 40c to be safe, 50c if your in a hurry, 45c would be safe, but it's an oven it may randomly jump up 10c??? hence 40 is safe. Around 50-60 some plastics start to deform, ( this I have learnt first hand).
OK spread the parts out on clean metal is best or ceramic plate/s and place the plates in the oven.
Drying time. Depends on the parts and how big they are and if water could be trapped in them.
Bare, open parts, no touching surfaces, keyboards can be pricks. 2-4hours at 50-40c.
Touching parts but nothing complex, i.e. no water stuck between the keyboard parts. 6-9 hours.
Whole phone 1-2 days.
Thanks for all the tips guys. It's still drying out now in a big bowl of rice. I'm going to try to turn it on again tomorrow. A friend of mine has one too, so if it fails to work I'm going to try his battery to see if that's the problem.
I'm using my N95 now, and it sucks :/
Use DISTILLED water to rinse it out, NOT tap water
IT'S ALIVE!
There is water behind the screen though (or between the casing and the screen). Do you think that'll just dry out over time, or do I need to take it apart to wipe it off?
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.
So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....
I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!
This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472
i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?
I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.
I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.
Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here
froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol
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. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?
Only had my desire a few weeks, and yesterday I did the stupidest thing I could. I dropped it in a cup of tea.
It wasn't fully submerged and only the bottom quarter of the phone was affected.
The water indicator sticker on both the battery and the phone are still white, unless there are any more stickers located inside the phone which I don't know about.
I attempted to try it with a hair dryer and lightly shook out most of the tea. I left it to try for as long as I could and removed the battery and sim card, but foolisly I did attempt to turn it on afterwards, as I needed to use the phone. (Which I've now read I shouldn't have done).
Most of the tea went under the area which you can only get to if you unscrew the phone, which if I unscrew will void the warranty completely, so I have left it on for now.
The power button on the phone no longer works, and the phone boots up straight away when the battery is placed in it. The phones main features work, but if I don't constantly use the phone and the screen switches off, it completely shuts the phone down.
As the indicators are still white, do you reckon there is any chance I could get it repaired under the HTC warranty?
Sorry for the long rambling explanation, and advice would be greatly appreciated.
how long ago did it happen? cover it in rice and chuck it in your hot water cupboard for a few days. that usually gets rid of all water inside water damaged phones (of course all bets are off now that you have tried turning it on).
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Only had my desire a few weeks, and yesterday I did the stupidest thing I could. I dropped it in a cup of tea.
It wasn't fully submerged and only the bottom quarter of the phone was affected.
The water indicator sticker on both the battery and the phone are still white, unless there are any more stickers located inside the phone which I don't know about.
I attempted to try it with a hair dryer and lightly shook out most of the tea. I left it to try for as long as I could and removed the battery and sim card, but foolisly I did attempt to turn it on afterwards, as I needed to use the phone. (Which I've now read I shouldn't have done).
Most of the tea went under the area which you can only get to if you unscrew the phone, which if I unscrew will void the warranty completely, so I have left it on for now.
The power button on the phone no longer works, and the phone boots up straight away when the battery is placed in it. The phones main features work, but if I don't constantly use the phone and the screen switches off, it completely shuts the phone down.
As the indicators are still white, do you reckon there is any chance I could get it repaired under the HTC warranty?
Sorry for the long rambling explanation, and advice would be greatly appreciated.
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any chance of warranty repair - sorry to say, but probably not.
the tea will most likely have caused some staining internally, so it's gunna be pretty obvious it's got wet.
try the rice thing mentioned by nzdcoy, but I don't fancy your chances.
i am sorry to say but any kind of warranty is lost. the only way for you to manage to get your phone fixed is to be disassembled. take a look here
http://www.mediafire.com/?na3g62068gvbg96
and here
http://www.mediafire.com/?ecyzwbvqefcjiuw
this are disassemble and assembly videos.
forgot to mention, for cleaning it use isopropilic alcohol. you can find it in any phormacy.
if you can't find it use pure 95% white alcohol.
regards
Marios
Hey guys,
So i flooded my phone, dried it, left in rice for 2 days and now when i connect it to my charger the screen goes up after a minute or so but its not charging. My screen shows battery icon with a bolt inside and a zero below, or battery with a cable inside and zero below. Any idea what can i do to fix this? I can boot to bootloarder mode, but when I'm trying to boot to recovery/other modes it goes back to 'charging screen'.
Thanks in advance!
The battery is eeprom controlled so you probably damaged it when teaching the phone to swim. Flashing will do nothing for it.
Putting the phone in rice is a bad idea as it isn't as absorbent as you think. You should have left it over a radiator for a week or so to evaporate the water before even thinking about switching it on, but by then the damage was probably already done.
If it doesnt start working in week or so then expect it to be expensive to fix.
Beamed in by telepathy.
Not sure what eeprom is, but if its in the part below, then i could replace it myself with no problem. What are Your thougts? I know that more thing may be broken, but if it would go back to life i would be glad because I don't want to spend money on any new phone, maybe apart from S8/pixel but its expensive as hell.
https://e.allegroimg.com/original/0115f6/28e0dc9447338f8114880dfb6c1e
If i couldn't repair this bad boy then I would probably go with 6s, but I'm not sure if I want to make the transition to iOS.
Cheers and thanks for previous reply
Hello people of the internet and most likely LG G3 users. Yesterday my LG G3 D855 died right when I was about to watch some good hentai. I’ve been having screen flickering for ages in the YouTube app and as of late the screen also started to fade to black from the corners, random reboots were also quite common. Android became unresponsive for a couple of seconds and then the screen when completely black in a split second. Tried a lot of things after that: removed the battery countless times, changed with an old battery, charged it for hours at the time (battery wouldn’t get hot so no charging), connected to my desktop. No Android, no TWRP, no bootloader, nothing could make my G3 do anything. I was convinced it became a paperweight. After that I proceeded to disassemble the phone. Disconnected all the ribbon cables of the cameras and the display etc and put them back in firmly. That did do anything. HOWEVER I remembered when I was wasting time reading toxic XDA comments and stuff that someone mentioned baking the device to restore connections between the motherboard and the SOC, or something like that. So I did some research and even though something as stupid as putting it in the oven actually seem to work for people. Mum wouldn’t let me put it in the oven so I made my own way of resurrecting my G3. This is what I did to get it back working:
I’M NOT RESPONSIBLE IN ANY WAY IF THIS GOES WRONG AFTER TRYING THIS. IT IS 100% YOUR CHOICE TO DO THIS OR NOT.
Requirements:
DISSEMBLING
LG G3
Screwdriver small enough to remove the G3 screws
Plastic prying tool (old credit card, solid thin plastic will do also)
Good light source
REVIVING PROCESS
Hair Dryer that can get a fair bit hot
The grill of an oven
Stopwatch
A floor that can withstand heat
A place that can be ventilated in case of toxic fumes (nothing happened for me)
Safety goggles (I didn’t have and so didn’t use)
Electrical fire extinguisher (I didn’t have and so didn’t use)
STEPS FOR MAKING AN UNDEAD PHONE:
1. Remove battery, SIM card, SD card.
2. Proceed to disassembling the phone to the state where you only have the motherboard. I used these guides:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/LG+G3+D855+Teardown/42288
And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNymIdIXTyI
3. Place the oven grill on a surface that can withstand heat and then gently place your LG G3 motherboard on it.
4. The heating process:
1.
Turn on the hair dryer and start to focus the heat on the part of the motherboard that is facing towards you when you take it out. So not the part where you see the SOC. See image. Hold the hair dryer close to the motherboard (5 cm space or so) and do this for 10 minutes.
2.
Let it cool down for 5 minutes and turn it around.
3.
Proceed to heat the SOC for 15 minutes and let it cool down fully for a minimum of 15 minutes.
4.
But it back together, hope that luck is on you side and that it will turn on.
NOTE: First boot went all the way till android boot screen when it crashed with screen flicker. I removed the battery and waited a minute or two and tried it again and it has been working ever since yesterday night. This is probably not a long-term solution so I’d suggest just using this to get your data off you phone and moving on to another device as fast a possible.
EDIT: Like I said before use this method only if you find putting it in the oven is to risky. My phone has now stopped working. This really is a temporary fix for if you just want to backup you remaining data.
i have used G3 for last 3 years and its was still good phone in market ..ok to the point
i have 3 G3 and one i bought for experiments and i put in Oven and guess what it show some sparks and burn from botton pat of the board so dont ut in oven it can burn and ic on board .. heating through hair dyer is safe i think for noobs... thanks