Hi all, I've been reading a few threads trying to find out if it's possible to enable band 4 on an international version of this phone. I don't have it right now, I'm thinking of buying it. It's quite low on amazon right now, 418$. And only downside is my carrier uses band 4.
So is it truly possible? I've seen some people did it but haven't really specified how.
Thanks a lot!
You're better off just paying a little more for a US unlocked version that has band 4 or buying a carrier specific version. There's been a lot of talk and discussion as to whether bands can be unlocked on the HTC 10, and while there is no final yes or no answer, there does not seem to be a clear guide on how unlock LTE bands at this point, at least not without a completely custom kernel or having to do some highly technical tweaking using a lot of programs. I would highly recommend not purchasing a foreign device in hopes of unlocking bands. Try buying a used device in near or perfect condition instead if you're trying to save a little money.
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You're better off just paying a little more for a US unlocked version that has band 4 or buying a carrier specific version. There's been a lot of talk and discussion as to whether bands can be unlocked on the HTC 10, and while there is no final yes or no answer, there does not seem to be a clear guide on how unlock LTE bands at this point, at least not without a completely custom kernel or having to do some highly technical tweaking using a lot of programs. I would highly recommend not purchasing a foreign device in hopes of unlocking bands. Try buying a used device in near or perfect condition instead if you're trying to save a little money.
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I will go for the US version or another phone then. Don't want to mess around with yo highly technical things.
Thanks a lot!
I'm in almost the same boat, except I bought what I thought was a US unlocked phone,. and what I received from Swappa was an international. I'm pretty upset because I don't know how likely they'll accept a return. Now if I can add band 4 through some method or other, with a hopefully straightforward (complicated is ok) procedure, then I'd be fine with keeping it.
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I'm in almost the same boat, except I bought what I thought was a US unlocked phone,. and what I received from Swappa was an international. I'm pretty upset because I don't know how likely they'll accept a return. Now if I can add band 4 through some method or other, with a hopefully straightforward (complicated is ok) procedure, then I'd be fine with keeping it.
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The closest method I've seen to being able to unlock bands requires a few things: root, TWRP, s-off, and a custom Verizon based rom (Leedroid or Viper).
Essentially, you need a Verizon based rom because the phone is unable to unlock bands through GSM and only able to unlock bands through CDMA, which means Verizon (being a CDMA based wireless operator) would allow this. Once the ROM is loaded, you'd have to use QXDM and DFS tools to change the NV value that would give access to the bands you're looking for (there should be a thread or two on this, one of which is called "Unlock LTE Bands on the HTC 10 forums and another called "[How To] Edit All Networks on ALL M9's" that kind of serves as the foundation regarding most attempts at editing bands.). T
Theoretically, following these steps would allow access to other LTE bands, but I haven't seen anyone post a 100 percent straight forward guide from start to finish that illustrated gaining specific LTE Bands, which leads me to think that there's currently no way to conclusively add LTE bands without a custom kernel built from the ground up. All of the threads kind of stop halfway in their tracks indicating that no one has officially found a way to add LTE bands. Some people have claimed to of done so but have provided no evidence on how they've achieved this or what steps (start to finish) they did to accomplish this. The information is all over the place regarding this, so until someone finalizes a guide that goes through the process start to finish, I would recommend seeing about returning the phone. This phone has also been out for quite some time, so at this point, I don't know if an official method will ever be created to implement other LTE bands.
I don't know how this works through Swappa since I haven't used it personally, but if you can, I'd return the phone.
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Hi guys,
I've posted in the AUS thread over in the main board, but it doesn't seem to be getting much attention:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/lg-g3-australia-thread-au-t2841345/page45
It's been reported and tested among several android devices that phones using the QUALCOMM chipset can now have various 4G/LTE bands UNLOCKED following a relatively easy - but fairly tedious process. as the G3 (and specifically, the dual SIM D858) sports the MSM8975AC Snapdragon 801 chipset...I ask the question:
Has anyone successfully unlocked 1 or more LTE/4G bands? I'd buy this phone if it were possible for root, then a successful unlock of all popular 4G bands here in Australia, specifically B28 (FDD) 700Mhz. Anyone who has tried, failed, succeeded or can provide additional details, please respond!
Thanks
Anyone?
Might be worth closing this, as G3 owners apparently don't visit here anymore.
*LOCK*
I got my D858HK in the US and am here until August. I'll be primarily using in India and China. I tried one of the procedures using QPST and QXDM to write all the 4G/LTE bands to memory, thereby "unlocking" them. Didn't seem to work on AT&T's (US) network. I'm only getting 3G. It's possible I didn't do something correctly, however...
I also tried going into the hidden menu, but while I am able to select/deselect the check marks for the different bands, there is no way to save the selections. At least no way that I can find. I would expect that I should be able to get 4G (even if not LTE) if the unlocking was successful.
Not that this helps you much, but I am also interested in a way, if possible. I'll probably give it another shot later this week or next week. I'll come back and post if I have any success.
flueterflam said:
I got my D858HK in the US and am here until August. I'll be primarily using in India and China. I tried one of the procedures using QPST and QXDM to write all the 4G/LTE bands to memory, thereby "unlocking" them. Didn't seem to work on AT&T's (US) network. I'm only getting 3G. It's possible I didn't do something correctly, however...
I also tried going into the hidden menu, but while I am able to select/deselect the check marks for the different bands, there is no way to save the selections. At least no way that I can find. I would expect that I should be able to get 4G (even if not LTE) if the unlocking was successful.
Not that this helps you much, but I am also interested in a way, if possible. I'll probably give it another shot later this week or next week. I'll come back and post if I have any success.
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I bought the G4 dual SIM...I've posted in busier threads there in the general forum where others will actually respond. Hopefully we can get this soon...just need an unlocked bootloader on G4...
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Sounds like you tried this thread. Thank goodness someone did, because I couldn't even download QPST, but I'm trying to get on T-mobile. Like you, I entered the secret menu with 3845#*858# What I find odd is that the LTE band selection indicates 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,40 But frequencycheck.com shows that these phones actually do 1,3,7,38,39,40,41. Those latter bands are crucial for China, so even if this setting were to work, it may well break China support.
flueterflam said:
I got my D858HK in the US and am here until August. I'll be primarily using in India and China. I tried one of the procedures using QPST and QXDM to write all the 4G/LTE bands to memory, thereby "unlocking" them. Didn't seem to work on AT&T's (US) network. I'm only getting 3G. It's possible I didn't do something correctly, however...
I also tried going into the hidden menu, but while I am able to select/deselect the check marks for the different bands, there is no way to save the selections. At least no way that I can find. I would expect that I should be able to get 4G (even if not LTE) if the unlocking was successful.
Not that this helps you much, but I am also interested in a way, if possible. I'll probably give it another shot later this week or next week. I'll come back and post if I have any success.
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successful in unlocking WCDMA/LTE bands in LG G3 D858HK
i was able to unlock the additional WCDMA and LTE bands in my LG G3 D858HK varient using QPST and QXDM.
The unlocking of WCDMA bands was done using QPST and the unlocking of LTE bands was done using QXDM.
Another important thing to note is that i was using MOKEE ROM 7.1.2 while doing the band unlocking.
NV MANAGER couldn't read from phone when i tried with the stock rom.
Hey,
I just ported over to Cricket Wireless because Verizon was just taking way to many hacks at my wallet. I've ran into a few snags I was hoping I could get some help with.
1. Every time I boot up my phone, it says I don't have a Verizon SIM card. Yep, I get that...I'm not on Verizon any more. Is there a way to make the phone understand that?
2. As I understand it, Verizon LTE phones only use 2 bands, while GSM phones use 4 bands...or something like that. Is there a way to unlock the other bands on my Verizon phone? It seems like they would be there, but locked out, right?
3. I tried to search for a firmware update, but encountered an error. I was expecting this. When android "M" does come out for my phone, how am I going to do the update?
4. Now that I'm not on Verizon, is it possible to flash ROM's?
Thank you for any help you can give me, folks.
Spackfan said:
Hey,
I just ported over to Cricket Wireless because Verizon was just taking way to many hacks at my wallet. I've ran into a few snags I was hoping I could get some help with.
1. Every time I boot up my phone, it says I don't have a Verizon SIM card. Yep, I get that...I'm not on Verizon any more. Is there a way to make the phone understand that?
2. As I understand it, Verizon LTE phones only use 2 bands, while GSM phones use 4 bands...or something like that. Is there a way to unlock the other bands on my Verizon phone? It seems like they would be there, but locked out, right?
3. I tried to search for a firmware update, but encountered an error. I was expecting this. When android "M" does come out for my phone, how am I going to do the update?
4. Now that I'm not on Verizon, is it possible to flash ROM's?
Thank you for any help you can give me, folks.
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I can't exactly answer questions 1 and 2, however,
3. When Android 6.0.1 comes out for the Note 4 SM-N910V, you will have to flash with odin when a tar comes out as you are not able to use OTA unless you have a Verizon SIM in the phone. If you still have your old Verizon SIM, you can use that, update, and then switch back to your new SIM if you'd like.
4. Unfortunately, no. Your phone still runs Verizon software and relies on it. So if and when any root method or bootloader unlock method comes out you will need to use the method for the N910V.
Spackfan said:
Hey,
I just ported over to Cricket Wireless because Verizon was just taking way to many hacks at my wallet. I've ran into a few snags I was hoping I could get some help with.
1. Every time I boot up my phone, it says I don't have a Verizon SIM card. Yep, I get that...I'm not on Verizon any more. Is there a way to make the phone understand that?
2. As I understand it, Verizon LTE phones only use 2 bands, while GSM phones use 4 bands...or something like that. Is there a way to unlock the other bands on my Verizon phone? It seems like they would be there, but locked out, right?
3. I tried to search for a firmware update, but encountered an error. I was expecting this. When android "M" does come out for my phone, how am I going to do the update?
4. Now that I'm not on Verizon, is it possible to flash ROM's?
Thank you for any help you can give me, folks.
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For question 2 try downloading 4G LTE Switch on the play store. Try changing your preferred network type but test texting and calling to make sure it works correctly. If that doesn't work I'm pretty sure I heard people bring the phone to Verizon to get it "unlocked" to use overseas. Not 100% positive about that though.
HI Hope this helps.
You will need to root device to access service menu, from service menu you can activate locked out bands.
You can use temp root with Kingroot this will allow you to access the locked out service mode on the device. Once in service mode you should be able to activate locked out bands.
Check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-unstable-t3318360/post65520510#post65520510
Post 25-27 talks about it.
Should get you started down the right track.
Best of luck
Any Luck on this thread?
Spackfan said:
Hey,
I just ported over to Cricket Wireless because Verizon was just taking way to many hacks at my wallet. I've ran into a few snags I was hoping I could get some help with.
1. Every time I boot up my phone, it says I don't have a Verizon SIM card. Yep, I get that...I'm not on Verizon any more. Is there a way to make the phone understand that?
2. As I understand it, Verizon LTE phones only use 2 bands, while GSM phones use 4 bands...or something like that. Is there a way to unlock the other bands on my Verizon phone? It seems like they would be there, but locked out, right?
3. I tried to search for a firmware update, but encountered an error. I was expecting this. When android "M" does come out for my phone, how am I going to do the update?
4. Now that I'm not on Verizon, is it possible to flash ROM's?
Thank you for any help you can give me, folks.
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i rooted my N910v. im on Andoid 6.0.1 and i was able to set only LTE bands but only LTE B3, LTE B4 & LTE B13 are avaible in menu. i don't know if N910V it's Capable to work with other LTE bands. i don't know if there is any trick to allow other LTE Bands.
did you find something?
ubitlopez said:
i rooted my N910v. im on Andoid 6.0.1 and i was able to set only LTE bands but only LTE B3, LTE B4 & LTE B13 are avaible in menu. i don't know if N910V it's Capable to work with other LTE bands. i don't know if there is any trick to allow other LTE Bands.
did you find something?
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I tried to root my n910v running Android 6.0.1 never worked
I bought a new HTC 10 on ebay and it's the unlocked international version. I didn't realize there is a US unlocked and International variants, I assumed carrier unlocked was an international variant. I'm on Tmobile which aparently uses some band that I'm not able to pick up and therefore I've been relegated to hspa for my data. Quite disappointing.
Can I S-Off and change to either Super CID or the TMobile CID and flash the radio and firmware for T-Mobile and get the phone to pick up the LTE so i can get my high speed data?
I can't find anywhere that tells me if the hardware is the same and that the radio is software configurable and therefore can activate the AWS bands with the correct radio/firmware/ruu or something of the like..
Did I totally blow it buying the int'l version of the 10 unlocked, or can I hack it to run properly on Tmobile LTE?
punkboyinsf said:
I bought a new HTC 10 on ebay and it's the unlocked international version. I didn't realize there is a US unlocked and International variants, I assumed carrier unlocked was an international variant. I'm on Tmobile which aparently uses some band that I'm not able to pick up and therefore I've been relegated to hspa for my data. Quite disappointing.
Can I S-Off and change to either Super CID or the TMobile CID and flash the radio and firmware for T-Mobile and get the phone to pick up the LTE so i can get my high speed data?
I can't find anywhere that tells me if the hardware is the same and that the radio is software configurable and therefore can activate the AWS bands with the correct radio/firmware/ruu or something of the like..
Did I totally blow it buying the int'l version of the 10 unlocked, or can I hack it to run properly on Tmobile LTE?
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Yes you can do that. Get S-Off, change your CID and MID and flash US Unlocked.
xunholyx said:
Yes you can do that. Get S-Off, change your CID and MID and flash US Unlocked.
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Very good to know. Follow up. Is this easy enough to reverse if I need to use my warranty?
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Very good to know. Follow up. Is this easy enough to reverse if I need to use my warranty?
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Yes, the same process but in reverse.
Tarima said:
Yes, the same process but in reverse.
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OK. so I did all that and am now running unlocked us firmware. I think I'm having the LTE reception issues I had read about. flashing the T-Mobile ruu should fix that right?
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Thanks a million for the prompt replies BTW. I've had this phone for a couple minutes and I feel good to finally get things working like they should be.
punkboyinsf said:
OK. so I did all that and am now running unlocked us firmware. I think I'm having the LTE reception issues I had read about. flashing the T-Mobile ruu should fix that right?
Ps
Thanks a million for the prompt replies BTW. I've had this phone for a couple minutes and I feel good to finally get things working like they should be.
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I can't vouch for the ruu fixing your lte issues. I've seen mixed reporting around for stuff like this. I would try it and see if it works.
punkboyinsf said:
OK. so I did all that and am now running unlocked us firmware. I think I'm having the LTE reception issues I had read about. flashing the T-Mobile ruu should fix that right?
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Thanks a million for the prompt replies BTW. I've had this phone for a couple minutes and I feel good to finally get things working like they should be.
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Well, T-mobile has been doing upgrades on the network and there has been a lot of space weather causing power outages and hiccups in other electronic devices. My home WiFi has been connecting and dropping left and right! I too have the T-mobile version of the HTC 10 but I did unlock the SIM and did the full conversion to the North American unlocked developer version and it has been absolutely issue free!! You might want to double check to see if the radios in the International version are using band 12,and band 4 for LTE... I lost my LTE after a long run doing the same thing with the original HTC One M7
I feel your pain
punkboyinsf said:
I bought a new HTC 10 on ebay and it's the unlocked international version. I didn't realize there is a US unlocked and International variants, I assumed carrier unlocked was an international variant. I'm on Tmobile which aparently uses some band that I'm not able to pick up and therefore I've been relegated to hspa for my data. Quite disappointing.
Can I S-Off and change to either Super CID or the TMobile CID and flash the radio and firmware for T-Mobile and get the phone to pick up the LTE so i can get my high speed data?
I can't find anywhere that tells me if the hardware is the same and that the radio is software configurable and therefore can activate the AWS bands with the correct radio/firmware/ruu or something of the like..
Did I totally blow it buying the int'l version of the 10 unlocked, or can I hack it to run properly on Tmobile LTE?
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Unfortunately HTC enabled/disabled certain LTE bands in the modem firmware depending on the region. The unlocked international doesn't play nice with T-mobile AWS. Flashing the RUU doesn't change the NV values in the modem, so you'll still be stuck with HSPA for the most part. I'm in AZ, and I can get band 12 and sometimes the non-AWS band 4, but neither are super fast. The snapdragon 820 does support all the necessary bands, they just need to be unlocked. We have the issue that qualcomm has put protection on the LTE firmware, so the old way of using QXDM/QPST doesn't work like it did on the 810 and earlier chipsets. There's some other threads on here that thing a custom kernel might open up the possibility of using the QXDM to edit NV values to unlock the necessary bands.
Friends, I am using htc one m8 ul unlocked developer edition in india, and installed S.Rom S.Team-S5.2-X10.5.8.8u, i need to enbale indian 4g bands on my m8 please give good suggestions. thanks.
Typical procedure is to flash another version's radio baseband firmware, which supports the desired bands. This requires s-off, which costs $25 by sunshine app (only working method - firewater doesn't work and hasn't for 2 years, so don't bother trying). May (likely) also need to change CID.
However, there are a couple of important caveats here. First of all, I don't know what (if any) versions of the M8 support LTE Bands 40 and 41. They are not commonly supported bands on this device.
Second, even when the desired bands are supported in firmware, we've seen a lot of cases where devices from another region, still will not work on the local LTE network. Getting 3G is relatively easy, but LTE seems to be much more difficult. No solution that I've seen for this. So the money spent for s-off may end up wasted.
Typically, the best way to ensure full network connectivity, is to purchase a device designed for your specific carrier/region.
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Typical procedure is to flash another version's radio baseband firmware, which supports the desired bands. This requires s-off, which costs $25 by sunshine app (only working method - firewater doesn't work and hasn't for 2 years, so don't bother trying). May (likely) also need to change CID.
However, there are a couple of important caveats here. First of all, I don't know what (if any) versions of the M8 support LTE Bands 40 and 41. They are not commonly supported bands on this device.
Second, even when the desired bands are supported in firmware, we've seen a lot of cases where devices from another region, still will not work on the local LTE network. Getting 3G is relatively easy, but LTE seems to be much more difficult. No solution that I've seen for this. So the money spent for s-off may end up wasted.
Typically, the best way to ensure full network connectivity, is to purchase a device designed for your specific carrier/region.
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Thanks for valuable suggestion. :good::good::good:
Hello, I have been with Verizon the last few years and I'm in the market for a new phone. I see on SlickDeals that there is a deal for the Verizon Samsung S10/S10+, but after reading through some of the posts, it seems you can't root the Verizon S10/S10+.
Since I don't need the latest and greatest phone from Verizon, are there any 'older', new in-store models that can be rooted so that I can install a custom ROM, etc?
Thanks in advance!
Your best bet is to get another phone that's not Verizon branded and just activate it on Verizon. You'd be going back a few years to get a Verizon phone that's rootable.
Thank you for this information... a couple of things getting another phone that is not Verizon branded:
- Previously, one would need to make sure they get a 'CDMA' (vs GSM) phone, but is there any technology, etc I need to look for when trying to find a non-Verizon phone?
- I assume if I get a 'non' branded Verizon phone, that some of the Verizon specific features may not work, e.g. WiFi calling, etc?
gil_happy said:
Thank you for this information... a couple of things getting another phone that is not Verizon branded:
- Previously, one would need to make sure they get a 'CDMA' (vs GSM) phone, but is there any technology, etc I need to look for when trying to find a non-Verizon phone?
- I assume if I get a 'non' branded Verizon phone, that some of the Verizon specific features may not work, e.g. WiFi calling, etc?
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I can only answer the 2nd part of your question. Once you activate it on a Vzw sim you can flash Vzw firmware and get all the same features
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I can only answer the 2nd part of your question. Once you activate it on a Vzw sim you can flash Vzw firmware and get all the same features
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Thanks for this... that makes sense. The only other things is regarding the Verizon frequency bands - I'm guessing some phones may not have or support all of the Verizon frequency bands.
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Thanks for this... that makes sense. The only other things is regarding the Verizon frequency bands - I'm guessing some phones may not have or support all of the Verizon frequency bands.
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I have the international unlocked model of the s10+ U1 version on Verizon and yes maybe one or two LTE bands aren't supported but i get 82Mbps down and 12Mbps up depending on location