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[Q] Radio mod for Band 4?

Out of curiosity, thought I'd just pose this question to the resident dev gurus.
Theoretically, is a radio mod possible similar to what's been accomplished with the ATT galaxy note to get this thing working on tmo AWS 3G?
Even if it was a hack, if this was done, I would get a lumia 900 tomorrow to use on tmo.

right now, the problem is getting a sim unlock on the device. Several unlock services are not able to get the codes and ATT won't unlock them either. I am thinking about getting a Rodgers version since those can be unlocked

feedmylittletroll said:
right now, the problem is getting a sim unlock on the device. Several unlock services are not able to get the codes and ATT won't unlock them either. I am thinking about getting a Rodgers version since those can be unlocked
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Wait until the mod works before buying a Rogers model. The Rogers model is cheap to unlock ($8.79), but the bands are not what you think. Read my other posts for details and my experience. The box has a set of bands listed but the 1700/2100 is for LTE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594870

Tmobile S4, Verizon sim

Has anyone accomplished this? Running a Verizon sim in a unlocked Tmobile S4?

i am curious about this as well. i dont think the lte bands are the same though

Verizon is LTE 18. Not worried about that too much. I believe 3g will be all it will get

While a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile, I don't think a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile. Unless you can somehow enable CDMA radios, which technically don't exist in the gsm variants.

serio22 said:
While a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile, I don't think a Verizon S4 will work with T-Mobile. Unless you can somehow enable CDMA radios, which technically don't exist in the gsm variants.
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All S4's are actually gsm, including Sprint and Verizon. Both are unlock able and able to use on other carriers, so CDMA isn't really necessary

ShinySide said:
All S4's are actually gsm, including Sprint and Verizon. Both are unlock able and able to use on other carriers, so CDMA isn't really necessary
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Yes I know many Sprint and Verizon smartphones are world phones, but Verizon still uses CDMA. So wouldn't you will still need a CDMA capable device if you plan to use it with Verizon? If it was the other way around, that's a different story

serio22 said:
Yes I know many Sprint and Verizon smartphones are world phones, but Verizon still uses CDMA. So wouldn't you will still need a CDMA capable device if you plan to use it with Verizon? If it was the other way around, that's a different story
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Yeah but that's why I was telling you.... if a Verizon S4 is gsm and not CDMA, why wouldn't a gsm work on Verizon if the same phone is gsm?
It's probably completely possible. Device wise.... the big problem would be getting Verizon to allow it on the network if it did

Well, i can't unlock the damn thing anyways. Tried 3 times to avail.
Just as soon as I Odin back the NH7 modem i loose the unlock. Very weird.

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Yeah but that's why I was telling you.... if a Verizon S4 is gsm and not CDMA, why wouldn't a gsm work on Verizon if the same phone is gsm?
It's probably completely possible. Device wise.... the big problem would be getting Verizon to allow it on the network if it did
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that's because it has both gsm and CDMA radios, while T-Mobile's does not. At least as far as we know. I think the gsm portion is there for when you travel for edge and HSPA connectivity and of course also for the use of LTE. If you insert a gsm sim card into a Verizon 'global' gsm/CDMA device, it will display a message "switching to Global mode," enabling full gsm mode. You still need a CDMA capable phone for activation on their network AFAIK.
The Sickness said:
Well, i can't unlock the damn thing anyways. Tried 3 times to avail.
Just as soon as I Odin back the NH7 modem i loose the unlock. Very weird.
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I would give it a shot but don't have a different sim card to test

Don't sweat it. Im keeping it.

I tried my unlocked S4 with my girlfriend's Verizon SIM from her S5 and couldn't get it to connect to anything. I tried every different network mode I had available and couldn't get it to see any sort of a signal. I'm pretty sure I also tried to manually search for a network and saw Verizon as an option, but didn't end up getting anything out of it.

Punkamonk said:
I tried my unlocked S4 with my girlfriend's Verizon SIM from her S5 and couldn't get it to connect to anything. I tried every different network mode I had available and couldn't get it to see any sort of a signal. I'm pretty sure I also tried to manually search for a network and saw Verizon as an option, but didn't end up getting anything out of it.
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It probably picked up the LTE signal, since it is gsm

In need of a lil guidance?

Ok so I need some advice. I was finally able to root my Galaxy S6 recently with Odin/CF-AutoRoot. Now i've got a few questions before I go any farther. The main reason I wanted to root my phone was in hopes to edit my APN's and get my data working. This galaxy is on Marshmallow, the Sprint/Boost Mobile model. I bought it off ebay, when i first got it I took it to AT&T to get service on it. They got my talk/text working but not data because there was no APN options under Settings/mobile networks/etc. That option was not there. I'm hoping if I flash a rom that will restore my missing APN options.
-I need someone to recommend me a rom. I'm looking for a stable rom, preferable debloated too. I just want the phone to function as it normally should and have the apn options back.
-Also, do I need to install a custom kernal too?

This is the forum for Sprint Galaxy S6. Did you buy the Sprint model or the AT&T model.
From what I understand, they are different.
Sprint is on CDMA network and AT&T is GSM, and the two are not compatible.
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DarkHorse420 said:
Ok so I need some advice. I was finally able to root my Galaxy S6 recently with Odin/CF-AutoRoot. Now i've got a few questions before I go any farther. The main reason I wanted to root my phone was in hopes to edit my APN's and get my data working. This galaxy is on Marshmallow, the Sprint/Boost Mobile model. I bought it off ebay, when i first got it I took it to AT&T to get service on it. They got my talk/text working but not data because there was no APN options under Settings/mobile networks/etc. That option was not there. I'm hoping if I flash a rom that will restore my missing APN options.
-I need someone to recommend me a rom. I'm looking for a stable rom, preferable debloated too. I just want the phone to function as it normally should and have the apn options back.
-Also, do I need to install a custom kernal too?
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It sounds to me like you want to use the Sprint S6 on AT&Ts network. Should be possible. However, I believe it needs to be unlocked first in order to use the GSM bands. This may be one of the issues.
Secondly, I recommend doing everything yourself as there aren't many ROMs available for the Sprint S6, so tweaking everything is something you personally will have to do to make it work on AT&T.
Thirdly, why did you get a Sprint model if you wanted to use it on AT&T? I recommend talking to sprint to help you. Custom kernel has nothing to do with carriers, so using the one you have now will be fine.
IMHO: You should have done your research first. Honestly if you wanted to use it strictly for AT&T then you should have bought an AT&T variant, all your headaches and issues wouldn't exist lol. That being said, what you want is 100% feasible, but not by the average Joe. It requires some tinkering and know how and knowing how to navigate around the device.
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This is the forum for Sprint Galaxy S6. Did you buy the Sprint model or the AT&T model.
From what I understand, they are different.
Sprint is on CDMA network and AT&T is GSM, and the two are not compatible.
Sent from my SM-G920P using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Just an FYI: You are right, but you're not fully right. lol
Sprint and Verizon CDMA phones normally have GSM capabilities for overseas business travel. In order to unlock the GSM bands, you must get the device unlocked, or tell and pay sprint that you are using it overseas. International Unlocking allows for overseas use, Domestic unlocking allows for USA GSM Carrier use. My phone is International and Domestically unlocked thanks to a very kind and generous xda member.
However, a GSM phone will not work on CDMA networks, just cause they lack the hardware. There really isn't a niche for it so they don't make them.

SIM unlocked T-Mobile Z2 Force - on Verizon?

There are a ton of entries on XDA about sim unlocking the T-Mobile and Sprint versions of the Z2 force, but none of them confirm once unlocked if they've used it on Verizon.
T-Mobile's page confirms their version utilizes bands 2,4 and 13 - all of which are Verizon's LTE bands.
Can anyone confirm?
I'm looking to buy this to replace a work phone on Verizon. My personal account is with T-Mobile, so would be very nice if I could just flip sims whenever I'd like. Appreciate in advance the responses!

(unlock T-Mobile bootloader, sim unlock, root and put a custom rom with safety net passes)
then type this on google and try.
Unlock all bands of your Qualcomm device! Use your phone globally! No bs! by olokos
or this one
torial] Unlock ALL bands on xt907 (moto_msm8960) by umar_fia
both links you want are first ones on google
test and report back
unlock band 13 for lte
if possible
unlock band CDMA BC1 (1900 PCS) and CDMA BC0 (800)
if given an option for cdma protocols
activate
cdmaOne 2G
CDMA2000 1xRTT 3G
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0 3G
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A 3G
If you can't activate the cdma bands, you will have no 3g connection.

Oh if this works I would be so happy to switch back to VZW. Anyone attempted it yet?

I'm interested in knowing if anyone tried this too

I’m too chicken to mess with anything not official from xda on my daily driver. I’m sucking it up and waiting out the period for the device unlock app to ‘officially’ sim unlock and try. When that day comes, I’ll post here.
I think it’s ignorant having to wait for a sim unlock for a phone you bought outright.

joesee said:
I’m too chicken to mess with anything not official from xda on my daily driver. I’m sucking it up and waiting out the period for the device unlock app to ‘officially’ sim unlock and try. When that day comes, I’ll post here.
I think it’s ignorant having to wait for a sim unlock for a phone you bought outright.
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Eagerly awaiting news on this - why is there a waiting period on the sim unlock? How longs is that period? I'm about to head out to Tmobile store and buy me one too.

Verizon's LTE band 13 is exclusive to the Verizon model unfortunately. I wish it wasn't so you could use a bootloader unlocked Sprint or T-Mobile edition on Verizon. I did that with the Google Pixel - used the universal one on Verizon. I just got used to having an unrooted phone with the z2 Force. I switched to blokada after many years of always using ad away. I think most all ad blockers on unrooted phones are VPN based so it lags WiFi and mobile data a little but that's what you get to work with if you want the best moto phone running on Verizon.

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Verizon's LTE band 13 is exclusive to the Verizon model unfortunately.
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Could you provide your source of information on that? T-Mobile's listing of the Z2 Force lists band 13 LTE capability, and multiple sources say that the Sprint variant has band 13 too. I am just about to pull the trigger on a Z2 Force variant that is bootloader unlockable, but whichever carrier version I get has to work with Straight Talk Verizon.

I'm seeing the sprint one listed as having band 13 now everywhere actually. My bad. I don't recall seeing that back when i got it and was shopping around. Let me know if the Sprint one works for you on vz because i miss having a a rooted phone.

The only different thing on the US phone's is the oem partition. Everything else hardware and software are very similar to the point I want to say identical. (Obviously, some slight changes in /system and stuff but that's with the territory of using OEM ROMs). I have flashed a T-Mobile flashall and it worked. I flashed back to Sprint shortly after. I did it for science.

So in short, will am unlocked T-mobile Moto Z2 work on the Verizon network with a sim swap? Or does it require a root or the bootloader thing that was mentioned, I haven't done either one as I am content with factory.

So, what's the verdict? Will unlocked T-Mobile Z2 force work with Verizon?

Most likely will not work. T-Mobile variant is GSM and most likely doesn't have the CDMA bands on it or programmed into it. Only thing you can try is flash Verizon firmware and see if it works. 99% chance T-mobile firmware will not work, Verizon firmware has about a 40% chance of working. If you don't have the device, I'd suggest not investing as no one has tried it.

I tried the Verizon flash all on my TMobile z2. Didn't work.lost baseband.
The flash all looked as if everything flashed properly...but when it finished and rebooted it still had tmo splash screen. So I don't know if it really did it.
If it's worth any thing my Verizon Sim in my tmo z2 gets great data...just no calls/messages

I have an unlocked Sprint variant that I flashed to Verizon and use with Straight talk Verizon. The only issue is that so far whenever an update comes in I have to back up all the things I want to save and flash the updated flashall, because the automatic updater just keeps on failing. I don't know if this matters, but I'm bootloader unlocked (had to for sim unlock) but without TWRP or root. It's possible that if I would try relocking the bootloader that the automatic update process would work. I briefly had a Mint sim in there (T-mobile) and everything seemed to work. I didn't really try things out with the Sprint rom, but as I remember everything worked, I just didn't like the icon style plus always having a notification saying something about a non Sprint sim card

zstricky said:
I have an unlocked Sprint variant that I flashed to Verizon and use with Straight talk Verizon. The only issue is that so far whenever an update comes in I have to back up all the things I want to save and flash the updated flashall, because the automatic updater just keeps on failing. I don't know if this matters, but I'm bootloader unlocked (had to for sim unlock) but without TWRP or root. It's possible that if I would try relocking the bootloader that the automatic update process would work. I briefly had a Mint sim in there (T-mobile) and everything seemed to work. I didn't really try things out with the Sprint rom, but as I remember everything worked, I just didn't like the icon style plus always having a notification saying something about a non Sprint sim card
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Was it officially unlocked or was a modified file flashed to your phone? If you had a third party service unlock, then the hash check for that partition is incorrect and that's why updates fail.

I had a third party unlock it. Actually, it was the guy that people on this forum have talked about.

Will this work on Verizon? My tmo z2 was unlocked by TMobile not a third party

No it doesn't work... You can get data but that's it..

Uzephi said:
The only different thing on the US phone's is the oem partition. Everything else hardware and software are very similar to the point I want to say identical. (Obviously, some slight changes in /system and stuff but that's with the territory of using OEM ROMs). I have flashed a T-Mobile flashall and it worked. I flashed back to Sprint shortly after. I did it for science.
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Hi- I am wondering about being able to buy a new-in-the-box z2 Force that was originally sold for Sprint, and being able to flash the T-mobile firmware to it for use with them. Is this possible? I have done this for Galaxy S8/S9 phones, but there is a deal right now where I can get this phone with 2 of the mods for dirt cheap, but it won't really matter if I can't do the conversion. Any advice?

Recommended Rootable Verizon Phones?

Hello, I have been with Verizon the last few years and I'm in the market for a new phone. I see on SlickDeals that there is a deal for the Verizon Samsung S10/S10+, but after reading through some of the posts, it seems you can't root the Verizon S10/S10+.
Since I don't need the latest and greatest phone from Verizon, are there any 'older', new in-store models that can be rooted so that I can install a custom ROM, etc?
Thanks in advance!

Your best bet is to get another phone that's not Verizon branded and just activate it on Verizon. You'd be going back a few years to get a Verizon phone that's rootable.

Thank you for this information... a couple of things getting another phone that is not Verizon branded:
- Previously, one would need to make sure they get a 'CDMA' (vs GSM) phone, but is there any technology, etc I need to look for when trying to find a non-Verizon phone?
- I assume if I get a 'non' branded Verizon phone, that some of the Verizon specific features may not work, e.g. WiFi calling, etc?

gil_happy said:
Thank you for this information... a couple of things getting another phone that is not Verizon branded:
- Previously, one would need to make sure they get a 'CDMA' (vs GSM) phone, but is there any technology, etc I need to look for when trying to find a non-Verizon phone?
- I assume if I get a 'non' branded Verizon phone, that some of the Verizon specific features may not work, e.g. WiFi calling, etc?
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I can only answer the 2nd part of your question. Once you activate it on a Vzw sim you can flash Vzw firmware and get all the same features

Cyclone Emperor said:
I can only answer the 2nd part of your question. Once you activate it on a Vzw sim you can flash Vzw firmware and get all the same features
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Thanks for this... that makes sense. The only other things is regarding the Verizon frequency bands - I'm guessing some phones may not have or support all of the Verizon frequency bands.

gil_happy said:
Thanks for this... that makes sense. The only other things is regarding the Verizon frequency bands - I'm guessing some phones may not have or support all of the Verizon frequency bands.
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I have the international unlocked model of the s10+ U1 version on Verizon and yes maybe one or two LTE bands aren't supported but i get 82Mbps down and 12Mbps up depending on location