Root affects guarantee? - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hi! So, a couple of months ago I bought the HTC 10, and it's safe to say that I love the phone, the only thing I wasn't a big fan of was Sense OS, so I decided to fire up Lineage OS into the phone and lo and behold, the perfect phone was born. It was beautiful, and the customization I could do was on another level, not to mention performance. Until I decided to tinker a bit with the phone's look and then the problems started.
I was prompted to update my OS which I gladly do every week, but I hadn't customized the software that much before, so when I flashed the update, I was stuck in bootloop. I flashed the zips that supposedly uninstalled everything I did to the phone and was still stuck in bootloop, did a wipe, still bootloop, it wasn't until I did a complete factory reset when I got my phone back. But then, I saw something.
After booting up, I saw a tiny bright spot under the lower left of the screen, I barely noticed it, but it was there. I decided to go back to stock, and it was still there. Looked into the problem and apparently it's a hardware issue. Called HTC and they told me that they could come for the phone on Tuesday, but the thing is, my phone's status is "modified" I try to lock the phone again and it changed from "unlocked" to "relocked", I'm afraid that these guys might have something to say about that and they'll give me back my phone with no repair at all...
So, what do you guys think? Do HTC care if the phone was unlocked and rooted once before, or that the software status is modified? How can I change those things? Is it really worth it to send my phone for repair? (the spot is really small and not that noticeable, but I'm scared it might get bigger over time)
Sorry for the lengthy post, hopefully you understand. Thanks in advance!

Since this is apparently a defective hardware issue, they shouldn't care. My first HTC 10 was broken (vibration didn't work), and it took me 6 weeks of going back and forth with them to get it replaced and it was completely unmodified. I would say you shouldn't have any issues getting a replacement, because only the software was modified, and you returned that to complete stock, then the issue with the screen spot occurred.

I agree, just returning it to stock should be enough. From what I remember they don't specifically say that unlocking the bootloader completely voids the warranty even for hardwaee issues.
I say send it in and let them replace the screen.

taker714 said:
Hi! So, a couple of months ago I bought the HTC 10, and it's safe to say that I love the phone, the only thing I wasn't a big fan of was Sense OS, so I decided to fire up Lineage OS into the phone and lo and behold, the perfect phone was born. It was beautiful, and the customization I could do was on another level, not to mention performance. Until I decided to tinker a bit with the phone's look and then the problems started.
I was prompted to update my OS which I gladly do every week, but I hadn't customized the software that much before, so when I flashed the update, I was stuck in bootloop. I flashed the zips that supposedly uninstalled everything I did to the phone and was still stuck in bootloop, did a wipe, still bootloop, it wasn't until I did a complete factory reset when I got my phone back. But then, I saw something.
After booting up, I saw a tiny bright spot under the lower left of the screen, I barely noticed it, but it was there. I decided to go back to stock, and it was still there. Looked into the problem and apparently it's a hardware issue. Called HTC and they told me that they could come for the phone on Tuesday, but the thing is, my phone's status is "modified" I try to lock the phone again and it changed from "unlocked" to "relocked", I'm afraid that these guys might have something to say about that and they'll give me back my phone with no repair at all...
So, what do you guys think? Do HTC care if the phone was unlocked and rooted once before, or that the software status is modified? How can I change those things? Is it really worth it to send my phone for repair? (the spot is really small and not that noticeable, but I'm scared it might get bigger over time)
Sorry for the lengthy post, hopefully you understand. Thanks in advance!
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If your that worried about it, doing a ruu to get completely back to stock should fix the modified message

First of all, I want to thank everyone who answered this post, really appreciate your opinions.
So, quick update, after I sent my phone, literally got a call the next day telling me that the software was modified and it breached HTC's guarantee. So unfortunately it's a thing... I'm probably going to ignore the issue with the screen since for now it's not that big of a deal, but I have a feeling that I'll have to buy a screen replacement and try and replace it myself down the line. Kinda bummed, always been a Nexus guy but loved and admired HTC's phone designs and quality, so when my Nexus 5 died earlier this year (After three years of abuse, Android bless his soul), I thought that it was time to get "HTC's comeback phone", since the Pixel was so expensive and hard to get. Not saying I regret buying the 10, still is a joy to hold and use, and in my opinion, a lot more better looking and manageable than the HTC U11, but still, had my expectations just a tiny bit higher... I guess that's what you get when you try out new ROMs haha.
Thanks again to everyone who responded this post, hopefully this helped someone.

So even you return your htc 10 back to stock and relock bootloader phone is not under warranty?Wtf?

johnnyman25 said:
So even you return your htc 10 back to stock and relock bootloader phone is not under warranty?Wtf?
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Ikr? The thing is that even if you flash with RUU and lock the phone, the system doesn't change to a "locked" status again, but it changes to a "relocked" status... And while it's that way, the system will appear modified in the bootloader. And any modification to software goes against HTC's guarantee because they basically blame your hardware issue on you tinkering with the software. Pretty funny if you ask me, but oh well xd

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Ikr? The thing is that even if you flash with RUU and lock the phone, the system doesn't change to a "locked" status again, but it changes to a "relocked" status... And while it's that way, the system will appear modified in the bootloader. And any modification to software goes against HTC's guarantee because they basically blame your hardware issue on you tinkering with the software. Pretty funny if you ask me, but oh well xd
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But I read the htc accepts phones with stock software and relocked bootloader. It's a lie?
HTC 10 Matte Black Power

I mean, it probably depends who takes the phone and how they check for faults... Maybe I was flat out unlucky

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Stuck at boot - should i buy

The story goes like this:
I have a Desire and today saw a local Ad where a guy sells a Htc Desire Z stuck at boot after upgrading. Thats the only info provided.
Now, the price is around 160 euros or 222 us dollars.
I have lots of experience with root/s-off from the Desire and anything with that shouldn't be a problem.
My questions are:
Is there a way to brick this phone?
Can it be somehow unbricked?
If the guy tried to update the phone to the latest one, can i root it then or downgrade it perhaps and root then?
Thank you very much whoever answers this.
Well hopefully some brighter folks than I can ellucidate whether it is possible to get out of a bootloop.
What I can offer however is my opinion on the purchase overall. $222USD is a good chunk of change. If there's a chance that it is not recoverable, I don't think it would be worth the gamble. Now if it were the nearly unbrickable Vibrant or something, I'd say go for it.
I bought my G2 in near mint condition for $275.
It all depends, Is it S-off? Does he have a custom recovery installed? Can you boot into Hboot and then into recovery(Clockworkmod Recovery)? If so then you probably can install a rom on the sdcard and flash them from recovery.
If its in a boot loop with S-on I would not touch it.
Boot loop with S-ON means it still has Nand protection which means you can't do shiz with it. I do have a little story though.
Bought a G1 off craigslist and shortly after the screen started acting wonky so I said what the hell and called Tmo. Explained the problem and hoped theyd have some pointers since the G1 was new and resources like this didn't exist at the time. They ended up being able to look up the phone and determined it still had warranty time left on the device so they exchanged it for me. Sometimes warranty carries over with phones. I'd call Tmo before I bought though and have them go ahead and send me a refurb then go buy the bootlooped one and send it back.
Supposedly he tried to install a different ROM which implies that he's rooted.
That should be fixable then, right?
Or is s-off really necessary for the Z?
UPDATE:
he just lowered the price to around 100 euros.
hiko36 said:
Boot loop with S-ON means it still has Nand protection which means you can't do shiz with it. I do have a little story though.
Bought a G1 off craigslist and shortly after the screen started acting wonky so I said what the hell and called Tmo. Explained the problem and hoped theyd have some pointers since the G1 was new and resources like this didn't exist at the time. They ended up being able to look up the phone and determined it still had warranty time left on the device so they exchanged it for me. Sometimes warranty carries over with phones. I'd call Tmo before I bought though and have them go ahead and send me a refurb then go buy the bootlooped one and send it back.
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I actually just did something similar. I bought a used G2 that was in perfect physical working order but with physical blemishes etc. and was about 3months old. About a week later dust started to accumulate under the screen. Even though the phone was used and I was on a EM+ plan with no contract and I didnt purchase the phone from a T-mo store, they still replaced it for free. More of a statement about how great T-mo support is than anything, but I think its interesting that they will support the device even though its used.
Now anything more than this is quite borderline not very ethical depending on who you ask, but I wouldn't really feel like buying a bootlooped phone just to try and send it back to T-mo and claim you don't know what happened. If that was very possible then the guy that currently has the phone would probably have done that already...
Yeah, i bought it.
The problem is/are it won't boot or turn on at all.
I'll send it to the repair shop to see if anything can be done.
And guess what.
Do you remember when the HTC vision/g2/desire z got leaked?
This picture here
It turns out, it's the same phone
THE SAME PHONE, Look at the serial numberl
DanijelDesire said:
Yeah, i bought it.
The problem is/are it won't boot or turn on at all.
I'll send it to the repair shop to see if anything can be done.
And guess what.
Do you remember when the HTC vision/g2/desire z got leaked?
This picture here
It turns out, it's the same phone
THE SAME PHONE, Look at the serial numberl
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PLEASE tell me you kept that. That would be like getting that first iphone that homeboy lost in the bar.

HELP! My phone gets hot and restarts! Please look for more info inside!

Hello dear friends!
HTC let me down Kind of stupid phones indeed at least desire...
I have my phone for quite a time now, it is rooted with unrewoked, clockwork recovery and s-on. I flashed many different roms in the past and everything was brilliant. In a pas half-a-year or so I stayed with only one ROM - MIUI-Au. I kept updating it to the newer versions and so on and on. Never had any random reboot or something. At least maybe it was because of some strange app or something else. But now it started to reboot randomly and constantly!
Phone gets hot abit and it just reboots, and never comes to android homescreen again, until I put out the battery, hold it for few minutes, pop it back and then it boots. But as soon as start to play music, or run a game the phone gets hot abit and reboots again. and so on and on. I thought maybe it was a miui issue. So I tried to flash different roms, but guess what? None of the even boot! The main screen shows and with the same second it bootloops again and forever!... (
Even from recovery it sometimes reboots randomly. So i managed somehow to flash my miui back and it at least boots. But it is very unstable now, I barely can use my phone now
PLEASE WHO CAN HELP ME????
My warranty probably out of date, and my phone is rooted, I dont think HTC would accept it...
any thoughts? friends?
What have you set the CPU max to?
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Thank you for response! Appreciate, really!! I didn't set it, I left everything by default I think! Because as i said, i even tried flashing different roms, not only miui.
What else could be? By the way, with stock froyo rom If I remember correctly, sometimes it became extremely hot, but I didnt get any reboots from that. But now, it gets just a little bit hot and it seems that this causes the reboot...
Now what I just noticed, I get reboots even when the phone is idle. And it is not even warm!
If its not getting hot then I'm confused lol. It sounds like a actual hardware fault. Sorry I can't help with this one
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cluendo said:
My warranty probably out of date, and my phone is rooted, I dont think HTC would accept it...
any thoughts? friends?
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try and get it taken back to stock if you dare.
The phone hasn't been out 2 years yet, which is how long the warranty is.
Thank you! But is there any possibility to fix it without HTC involvement? Maybe it is not hardware issue ? Can it be because phone is rooted and I flashed many roms to it ? I didnt try AOSP roms since reboots started, I will try to pop in Cyanogenmod or other and see if I will get reboots.
Would rerooting my phone and updating my recovery fix the problem?
and Note: yesterday I tried to S-OFF my phone, but I can't even do that with my unstable MIUI. It rebooted in the middle of the process..
I had a similar problem, apparently it's not uncommon on the early revisions. I sent mine to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
Thank you for answer! But what if my phone is bought through a contractor?
Can just call HTC and ask the for repair? Or should I contact my contractor first ?
Just give them a call and they will try to help you out. I had a very good customer service experience with them when my desire had some issues.
They will require a proof of purchase though. If you managed to get the receipt from your "contractor" (I am unsure what you mean by a contractor), then there should be no problem.
Sorry for misleading word, I meant T-Mobile. I bought my phone under contract. I think I have a receipt. I even have whole box and stuff of the phone somewhere in my drawer.(just sayin ). So how is customer service of HTC? Poor, good ? I heard you need to tell them that you did a factory reset and that didn't help. Is that true. Also if I will unroot my phone, will they know it was rooted anyhow?
Ahhh....this overheating issue seems common. How they can release faulty phones?? No clue.
thanks for answers mates!
In Singapore, HTC service is really good. Phone was still under warranty.
It took me just one (real) call to confirm a repair order. The first call I was just checking to see what options were available to me.
The second call was an actual repair request. And the third call was me pestering them for a pickup date. heehee
In Singapore, repairs were done via courier. They picked it up and 1 working day later, they sent it back.
Naturally, you will probably need to impress upon them that you tried everything to fix your phone (which I hope you did which includes proving to yourself that it's not the ROMs fault).
You will definitely need to reset everything back to zero. In my case, I downloaded an RUU to totally reset everything back to STOCK, which included removing clockworkmod recovery. You WILL need to create a goldcard for this though so bear in mind that it's not exactly a case of a simple flashing procedure. At least not if you don't already have a goldcard.
Sorry if I overread it at some point, but you speculated at the beginning there could be some faulty app causing this, but you never meantioned performing a full wipe. Have you full wiped yet? Just to make sure it is indeed no software problem.
greets
Thank you for your answers. At the moment I have SuperNova classic ROM. ( 2.3.3 + Sense 2.1) But my phone crashes again and again, it is so annoying and causes me so much trouble.
I never tried a reset or unroot and return to original rom. Im just wondering now, would this help to remove or at least remove those reboots?
Today I was in my work and i was keeping my phone in my jeans pocket. it got hot as u would expect when keeping in pocket and suddenly it rebooten, then it went into a bootloop and started to bootloop 7 times in a row quickly. then again and again. It became very hot at that time.
For the interest, what exact hardware faults causes these reboots and why phone gets even hotter if you keep it on boot loop. If I keep phone cold, the rom usualy stays normal, without reboots. but as soon as I start using my phone, texting or calling for at least 5minutes of using it just reboots.
as I said- really annoying thing :S
I remember my happy times with miui, apps and no reboots Was fun!
cheers for helping!
I would give full wipe / factory reset a chance, and maybe RUU.
At least try it before sending phone to htc.
It is hardware problem, search forum. Fresh ROM without SD card, enabled WIFI and GPS, running G navigation, back of the phone is warm - restart after few minutes.
Maybe someone know how to read info form the phone right before reset? We could understand why the phone is reseting and hopefully add some patch.
Reboot-loop experience
Hey,
i had the same problem over the last few months: In the beginning my phone restarted only when it got hot, but it got worse over the last few weeks, in the end i was not able to use two apps at the same time (music and mytracks) or even to surf the internet longer than a few minutes. The problem did noticeably decrease when the phone was cool - tested by putting it on a fan or in the fridge. Yet, Skype was regularly killing it. As i really love my phone (and especially the AMOLED-Screen!) i did not want to resign. The battery cover contains some metal which is supposed to enhance heat dissipation - so i attached a little thermal pad to the hotter bottom of the phone to improve contact with the head spreader. Unfortunately it did not entirely fix the problem. Yes, it improved the situation a little, but it got even worse after a week or two - in the end i had to turn it in.
So i decided to take it to the Telekom-Shop. They were very kind and told me they would call the other day to confirm that the replacement would have been shipped. It took a few days longer, but i got a phone with the AMOLED-Screen! The employee said it was a used mainboard in a new case, completely refurbished. They only replaced the main unit, i kept the battery, sd-card, charger and so on. Now i have a working Desire again!
Terminator
Similar?
Hi i on the other hand have similar problem, qiute anoying one, my desire, cm7 hboot, s-off, insert coin cm7 rom, have phone freezing in diferent situations, sometimes its working sometimes just freezez and i need to get battery out and turn it one and sometimes several times in row to get it working again???? RUU and go to give phone in service? plaese advice?
@cp6ija Sandisk SD card? If yes, smash it.
nvm
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[Q] Touch Screen gone haywire

After flashing the stock google (yukju) roms on my galaxy nexus, everything went fine for a couple of months and now I am getting weird haywire issues with my touch screen. Without me touching anything, the phone will act like a part of my screen is being touched, it will not respond when I am indeed touching it at times, the screen will flicker back and forth and generally act strangely. Then for the other 70% of the time it is fine. I have re-flashed all stock roms, did a factory reset, and the problem persists.
Is anyone else having these problems?
any idea what to do next.
After contacting my provider, they said they cant help me because I had unlocked the phone. I have since relocked the phone so I might try calling back and seeing if it will fool them, but I doubt it. Now that I have re-locked the phone should I try to deal with Samsung?
Any help appreciated!
It sounds like a hardware issue. Most likely the touchscreen itself is bad. If you still have warranty or insurance coverage then bring it back to the store and tell them it is defective. By the way, NEVER mention that you have ever unlocked or rooted your phone.
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Thanks for the reply. Im worried that, like you say, it is a hardware issue because I bought it used, and therefore will probably have problems with warranty/insurance. My carrier has already said that they wont help me with it so I would have to go right to Samsung. Any tips on dealing with Samsung? I have already returned to stock and re-lock the phone and I never rooted it, I certainly wont say I did anything to it in any way. Anything else I should be aware of? Will they even help me out since I wasn't the one who bought the phone in the first place?
GentlemanBasdard said:
Thanks for the reply. Im worried that, like you say, it is a hardware issue because I bought it used, and therefore will probably have problems with warranty/insurance. My carrier has already said that they wont help me with it so I would have to go right to Samsung. Any tips on dealing with Samsung? I have already returned to stock and re-lock the phone and I never rooted it, I certainly wont say I did anything to it in any way. Anything else I should be aware of? Will they even help me out since I wasn't the one who bought the phone in the first place?
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Although most manufacturers offer a 1 year warranty on hardware, I doubt they will honor it since you were not the original owner. Your next option is repairing it yourself. It took a look at prices on eBay and it looks like the digitizer (touchscreen) for a galaxy nexus goes for about $30 and the combination of digitizer and LCD screen go for about $150. I don't know how difficult it would be to separate the digitizer from the LCD on your phone, but $150 for the set is still better than buying a new phone.
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As has been said, it is probably a hardware issue - I had an HTC Desire S before my GNex and had the same issue with it, started all of a sudden. (The screen would go haywire as you said, almost as if a ghost was pushing buttons quickly - that's the best way I can describe it). Mine did not have warranty coverage because I had rooted and unlocked it but the HTC rep was helpful and said it happens sometimes because of moisture or humidity or some such thing and to replace the lcd/digitizer. Cost me a little ($110) but phone was as good as new after that, used it for six months before selling it and buying the GNex.

Does the unlocked Bootloader help unbrick the Pixel C with corrupted hard drive?

So the issue can be referred to :http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/corrupted-hard-drive-dead-pixel-c-t3290331
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/xoaMSAa8yC8
I bought the Pixel C few days ago. I'm in China , I haven't got it yet. It's till in transit. I have read some people have this issue. It really worries me because I don't get to RAM it since I'm in China. If anything like this happens then I will have a bricked device.
My question is if I unlock the bootloader as soon as I get it. If this issue occurs, am I able to sideload the factory image to unbrick it?
Also , I would like to know if the latest batch(the ones you can get with the developer discount) have the wifi issue or are they of the same batch as the previous ones?
randy6644 said:
So the issue can be referred to :http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/corrupted-hard-drive-dead-pixel-c-t3290331
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/xoaMSAa8yC8
I bought the Pixel C few days ago. I'm in China , I haven't got it yet. It's till in transit. I have read some people have this issue. It really worries me because I don't get to RAM it since I'm in China. If anything like this happens then I will have a bricked device.
My question is if I unlock the bootloader as soon as I get it. If this issue occurs, am I able to sideload the factory image to unbrick it?
Also , I would like to know if the latest batch(the ones you can get with the developer discount) have the wifi issue or are they of the same batch as the previous ones?
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For every Nexus device I purchase, it's standard practice to unlock it before completely setting everything up. So right after opening it, I'll do a quick setup and use a couple apps to check for things like dead pixels or lightbleed. Then, if everything checks out, I'll unlock the bootloader and flash the latest factory image to make sure I'm getting a fresh start from scratch. I've never seen a reason NOT to unlock the bootloader first. It helps get you out of trouble if something were to go awry on the software side. I've never encountered an issue that flashing a factory image couldn't fix.
While I can't attest to anything regarding the original batches, I can tell you the device I received with the dev discount has been perfect. No issues so far after using it for 2 weeks. I believe it was manufactured in January 2016 if the serial number naming scheme is the same as other Nexus devices.
If you have a dead HDD, nothing can fix it other than replacing it. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware error, if it's software, reformatting the drive may help, if it's hardware, you're obviously screwed.
charesa39 said:
For every Nexus device I purchase, it's standard practice to unlock it before completely setting everything up. So right after opening it, I'll do a quick setup and use a couple apps to check for things like dead pixels or lightbleed. Then, if everything checks out, I'll unlock the bootloader and flash the latest factory image to make sure I'm getting a fresh start from scratch. I've never seen a reason NOT to unlock the bootloader first. It helps get you out of trouble if something were to go awry on the software side. I've never encountered an issue that flashing a factory image couldn't fix.
While I can't attest to anything regarding the original batches, I can tell you the device I received with the dev discount has been perfect. No issues so far after using it for 2 weeks. I believe it was manufactured in January 2016 if the serial number naming scheme is the same as other Nexus devices.
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I've bought lots of nexii devices ,say, Gnex, nexus 7 , nexus 6 and 6P. I used to do a lot of flashing just like you do, the first thing I did was unlocked the BL and flashed a new ROM, kernel and maybe did some tweaking. But I haven't messed with my 6P cause I don't wanna unlock the BL for security reason. With an unlocked bootloader, just think about it, if you lose your phone, anyone can do whatever they want. with it That's not cool at all. So I'd rather keep it the way it is.
Glad to know that you don't have any issue with your device. I hope it's the same in my case. Thanks for the information.
brando56894 said:
If you have a dead HDD, nothing can fix it other than replacing it. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware error, if it's software, reformatting the drive may help, if it's hardware, you're obviously screwed.
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I think the problem mentioned should be a software issue. As in those two threads , they are not able to boot up the device simply by factory resetting it. And they failed to flash the factory image to the bricked device since it's locked.
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I've bought lots of nexii devices ,say, Gnex, nexus 7 , nexus 6 and 6P. I used to do a lot of flashing just like you do, the first thing I did was unlocked the BL and flashed a new ROM, kernel and maybe did some tweaking. But I haven't messed with my 6P cause I don't wanna unlock the BL for security reason. With an unlocked bootloader, just think about it, if you lose your phone, anyone can do whatever they want. with it That's not cool at all. So I'd rather keep it the way it is.
Glad to know that you don't have any issue with your device. I hope it's the same in my case. Thanks for the information.
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While this is definitely true, your average cellphone thief is about as tech savvy as a wet piece of leather hahaha I've had this concern myself but then realized that maybe 2% of Android owners know how to get to the recovery, hell most reps at cell phone stores don't even know how to do it, even the ones that are "techs"!. When I had my S4 rooted and stupidly let it slip that the phone was rooted, next time I came in the rep looked over the phone and called out a tech who looked at the phone for 30 seconds then said "do you know how to get to the recovery on this???". A simple pin/password/pattern lock will thwart about 90% of phone thieves out there from getting access to your data, they're most likely just going to wipe it anyway. They couldn't care less about your data, they can't sell or use that as easily as they can the device itself.
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brando56894 said:
While this is definitely true, your average cellphone thief is about as tech savvy as a wet piece of leather hahaha I've had this concern myself but then realized that maybe 2% of Android owners know how to get to the recovery, hell most reps at cell phone stores don't even know how to do it, even the ones that are "techs"!. When I had my S4 rooted and stupidly let it slip that the phone was rooted, next time I came in the rep looked over the phone and called out a tech who looked at the phone for 30 seconds then said "do you know how to get to the recovery on this???". A simple pin/password/pattern lock will thwart about 90% of phone thieves out there from getting access to your data, they're most likely just going to wipe it anyway. They couldn't care less about your data, they can't sell or use that as easily as they can the device itself.
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Well, usually thieves might just wipe everything. But still, there are risks. There are certain ways to go around the locked screen if you got a unlcoked BL and rooted phone. I've got all my photos( No nude pics ) stored on Google, and also all my contacts, whom wouldn't be happy to share their information with a thief, and some notes, payment apps as well as some important emails. There's too much going on and I don't wanna take risks. Also, if my phone got stolen, I'll have make sure the SOB got a brick ,nothing more. Sure they can tear it apart and sell some parts of it, but they don't get a phone.
I still flash roms and stuff on my oneplux which i got few days ago since my nexus 6 went dead, I do that because it's not my main phone and I don't have a lot of personal information stored there unlike on my 6P. For a tablet, maybe I would do that since I'll put it home usually .
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Well, usually thieves might just wipe everything. But still, there are risks. There are certain ways to go around the locked screen if you got a unlcoked BL and rooted phone. I've got all my photos( No nude pics ) stored on Google, and also all my contacts, whom wouldn't be happy to share their information with a thief, and some notes, payment apps as well as some important emails. There's too much going on and I don't wanna take risks. Also, if my phone got stolen, I'll have make sure the SOB got a brick ,nothing more. Sure they can tear it apart and sell some parts of it, but they don't get a phone.
I still flash roms and stuff on my oneplux which i got few days ago since my nexus 6 went dead, I do that because it's not my main phone and I don't have a lot of personal information stored there unlike on my 6P. For a tablet, maybe I would do that since I'll put it home usually .
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In that case, Android Device Manager comes into play and allows you to beef up your security.
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HTC 10 Unstable, Unpredictableand crappy battery.

I am wondering if anyone has any ideas on this crazy phone.
I am experiencing some really erratic behavior and rapid battery drain. My phone will spontaneously reboot at any given moment. Usually when the battery level gets below 50% but not always, I've had it happen at 80% as well. When it reboots it will go into a boot loop and show the battery at 1%. It will boot a few times then shut off until I plug it into a charger and reboot. Then the phone will have to charge from 1% even if it was at 75% when it shut off. Sometimes if I charge it a bit, say up to 30% and then reboot, it will boot back up at 60 or 70%. No rhyme or reason.
When all this started I was running Venom rom and I hadn't updated anything for a long time. I thought maybe something was crossed up so I flashed the stock RUU and re-rooted with the intent of re-installing the current version of Venom. I flashed Venom and got everything set up again....Bam...out of the blue a reboot. This time I lost all of my settings and tweaks in Venom, it seemed like it reverted to a fresh install. I went through all of the tweaks again and set everything back up only to have it happen again.
I have tried all of the battery reset tricks i.e., deleting battery stats. Holding down both volume buttons and the power button etc. Nothing works.
I have wiped everything except the external SD card in TWRP and then again when I installed a new ROM. I have done this numerous times. The phone seems to run a little better now but it still will random reboot and show discharged. Only get about a half a day out of the battery if I'm lucky.
I am currently running the latest version of TWRP 3.2.1-0 and stock rom firmware version 2.41.605.36.
This thing is driving me nuts. I have tried pretty much I know how to do with my limited abilities. Anyone have any ideas?
Sooo....as soon as I posted this thread I found this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/random-shut-boot-loops-t3690547. I'm not sure how I missed it in my searches. I have some reading to do LOL.
HI,
i have same problem. I hope it will be resolved with Oreo !!
Leedroid is answer to all bugs
Aftab_khatri said:
Leedroid is answer to all bugs
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I tried that as well. LeeDroid didn't change a thing. At this point it really seems like a hardware issue. I have an email sent to HTC to see what they have to say.
Well to be honest I was getting a crapy battery life while using the car charger or charge it more frequently, but I am using In home Aukey Q3 and in work stock, these results are captured before writing the reply
Any lint or anything else stuck in the charge port?
I think you need to do an RUU, and run your device completely stock. Are you s-on or s-off? Do you use magisk or just old school supersu for root?
You need to go back stock anyway, I'd definitely start the warranty replacement process and you'll want to be stock for that anyway so if you confirm it does it bone stock, you'll know it's a hardware issue, and you've got it ready to send back.
Just make sure HTC knows how frustrated you are to have invested in an HTC device and having a problem like this with a device that hasn't even been out that long yet. It definitely should be within the period that HTC will take care of you as a paying customer. It's a lot cheaper to keep you as an HTC customer than it is to go make a new customer to replace you.
CharliesTheMan said:
I think you need to do an RUU, and run your device completely stock. Are you s-on or s-off? Do you use magisk or just old school supersu for root?
You need to go back stock anyway, I'd definitely start the warranty replacement process and you'll want to be stock for that anyway so if you confirm it does it bone stock, you'll know it's a hardware issue, and you've got it ready to send back.
Just make sure HTC knows how frustrated you are to have invested in an HTC device and having a problem like this with a device that hasn't even been out that long yet. It definitely should be within the period that HTC will take care of you as a paying customer. It's a lot cheaper to keep you as an HTC customer than it is to go make a new customer to replace you.
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Unfortunately my warranty expired in July so there is no point starting a replacement process. I have been on chat with 2 different HTC people. HTC will not help me....period. They will not even acknowledge that they have a problem. I sent them the link I posted above with everyone else having the same exact issue. I made it really clear to HTC that I will not buy another one of their phones. Too bad, I have had nothing but HTC since the Thunderbolt. I won't have another one.
I have wiped all partitions including the internal sd card via TWRP at least 3 times. I have flashed the lastest Verizon RUU firmware 2.41.605.36 at least 3 times (running that now). Flashed an updated version of Venom. Flashed the latest LeeDroid, complete wipes for everything. Tried holding down the power button along with both volume buttons to reset battery stats. Tried dice and chicken bones LOL. Nothing corrects the problem. I thought it got a little better but I was wrong.
Samsung here I come
CharliesTheMan said:
I think you need to do an RUU, and run your device completely stock. Are you s-on or s-off? Do you use magisk or just old school supersu for root?
You need to go back stock anyway, I'd definitely start the warranty replacement process and you'll want to be stock for that anyway so if you confirm it does it bone stock, you'll know it's a hardware issue, and you've got it ready to send back.
Just make sure HTC knows how frustrated you are to have invested in an HTC device and having a problem like this with a device that hasn't even been out that long yet. It definitely should be within the period that HTC will take care of you as a paying customer. It's a lot cheaper to keep you as an HTC customer than it is to go make a new customer to replace you.
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Missed the first part of your post....I'm S-off. I have gone both ways with Magisk and SuperSu. Currently (and I seem to prefer) SuperSU.
Hard not to come to the conclusion that your battery is bad
I found a shop that is going to try and help me replace the battery. They were hesitant due to the possibility of breaking the screen during disassembly. I ordered a new screen to go along with the new battery. If this doesn't fix it I guess I just tossed another $100.00 bucks in the trash.
goobener said:
I found a shop that is going to try and help me replace the battery. They were hesitant due to the possibility of breaking the screen during disassembly. I ordered a new screen to go along with the new battery. If this doesn't fix it I guess I just tossed another $100.00 bucks in the trash.
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I had the exact same issue as you! A repair shop replaced my battery for 70€ and now it's working perfect again. I also tried different custom ROMs and nothing worked.
I've been having the same issues and I finally decided I've had enough. I'm going to try to revive my 10 by replacing the battery with the part here. I have a heat gun and phone repair kit already but just to be extra safe, I ordered a replacement screen/LCD assembly as well from here. I really hope I don't break my original screen because I'm not convinced this replacement is actually OEM. I don't want to risk sacrificing screen quality by having to swap my original out with a replacement. We'll see how it goes when I get all the parts in about a week and a half. Wish me luck!
Got my 10 back from a local repair shop after replacing the battery Runs like new again. Really happy the new battery fixed it back up. Pretty disappointed that HTC would do absolutely nothing to help me get the phone fixed.

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