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Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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So the Note 4 is actually my first device I've owned where I didn't have an unlocked bootloader. Because of this, I'm not sure whether all the modifications I've made to my past devices were enabled because I had an unlocked bootloader.
The only thing I know we can't do is install custom roms.
So... that leaves me with a question. What kinds of things can we do with just root?
On top of that, I have some specific questions (Might think of more later) :
Will root let us be able to install the auto-brightness control that the international version of the Note 4 has? If you don't know, you're able to adjust how low or high the auto brightness stages will go without turning off auto brightness on that version. It's so much nicer than having to turn off auto, adjust to where you want, and then remember to turn auto back on when you leave that environment.
Can we remap the capacitive multitask button to be a menu button instead? And to remap long-pressing that button to be the new multitask?
Thanks!
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
droidx2.3.3 said:
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
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did they get a safestrap to work?
I'm assuming that they will. I suppose I should have worded my post different.
So it should have said, if we get safe strap we will be able to have custom roms.
It's not quiet the same as a unlocked bootloader though.
We have root?
what proof?
Well regardless of whether we have custom roms through some other means, I'd personally most interested in those 2 questions I stated. That's honestly the things I want most with root at the moment.
Where is root?
Root has not been proven yet. Patience. Everyone is jumping the gun here.
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
Hobox10 said:
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
dr12volt1338 said:
My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
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I'm with you on the adblock and it's one of the things I've been looking forward too also. The ads mobile gets is ridiculous, I'm fine with them on most websites on the computer but the mobile versions really kill some things.
Xposed is an interesting topic to me, I've never had any experience with it since I've never really needed it. It will be fun to see what they do. Thanks for the info.
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Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
52yt said:
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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Good point I forgot about being able to add multi window for non supported apps... It would be really nice for Tapatalk to support it
Ooh multi-window on almost any app sounds awesome!
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
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Just an fyi: You can disable bloatware without having root by using @gatesjunior's Debloater utility. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V
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Daciple said:
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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I had no idea that existed or was possible without root. Great find!
AT&T has finally released a FireTV Uverse app (seems to be a lot better then the PlayStore Uverse App), but like other apps it comes with a root checker that blocks video playback.
It gives the following error, “Playback not allowed because device is not secure”
I know others have come across this problem with other apps that do the same root check. Has anybody found any workaround for this ???
I know there are some "hide root" kind of apps on the PlayStore but I am not sure which would be best for a FireTV. Or if they even work at all.
Any info would be appreciated... ty
You could use hide root applications ex. Rootcloak, hide my root, etc. But ultimately unless the actual application is modified to hide root detection in code your chances are slim to non basically. On xda I've seen certain applications that were modified to work with root ex. Time Warner. But then the developer pushes a force update. Also developer can write new code to make sure app hasn't been tampered. Hope that helps.
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gunde2014 said:
You could use hide root applications ex. Rootcloak, hide my root, etc. But ultimately unless the actual application is modified to hide root detection in code your chances are slim to non basically. On xda I've seen certain applications that were modified to work with root ex. Time Warner. But then the developer pushes a force update. Also developer can write new code to make sure app hasn't been tampered. Hope that helps.
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Right, Was just wondering if anybody had tested out the hide my root type apps on a FireTV already. Seems most of them have not been updated in a long while.
did you get a solution for this? thanks.
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did you get a solution for this? thanks.
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Sorry but since I refuse to un-Root any of my 1st Gen FireTV's the only solution I found was to purchase some FireTV Stick's when they are on special ($25) & connect that to a separate HDMI port to use for Uverse & or any other App that wont work correctly on a Rooted device...
Another option would be to Display Mirror the Uverse App from a phone or tablet to your FireTV.
After rooting my Note 7, I've noticed that my Knox counter has been triggered, normally I would mind but several apps seem to depend on it to work properly(I can't even open S Health!). Is there away to reset it yet? thanks
Nope. When you root, a physical fuse in the phone is blown, so unless you have epic soldering and mad haxorz skills then you're pretty much screwed
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
I am rooted and my S Health works. I believe the only thing that would be permanently disabled is Samsung Pay. Some banking apps will not run if you have root but you can always install an Xposed module called root cloak to circumvent that issue.
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S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
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get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
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Sadly depending on what you want not everything is available without rooting.
Unless you can tell me how to change all app dpi individually.
YouTube adblocker
Synapse
Adaway
Greenify... not as as good un rooted mode
Amplify
Smart network
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you're mentioning specific root-only apps.
obviously those won't work, but there are alternative methods with (close to) the same results.
adaway: adguard, it's better anyway(doesn't rely on a system designed for no more than 100 rules, easy to toggle on/off, supports whitelisting of apps, supports firewall functionality, and can target not just entire domains but also single lines of code)
adfree YouTube: yes this one is trickier, you'd need a 3rd party YouTube app or the website+adguard to avoid ads.
alternatively you can use "Cygery AdSkip for YouTube" to automatically skip ads after 5 seconds.
as you said, greenify works just not as effective.
similar "power saving" functions however are built in on recent android devices.
and from what I can tell every function in "smart network" except switching to 2G can be achieved without root using tasker.
synapse and per app DPI are the only things on your list that are completely impossible without root(although using game tuner's resolution settings you should be able to influence scaling in some apps)
Also if you use YouTube backgrounder, OGyoutube works great and allows background / downloading of content. I'm still looking for an ad free YouTube but this suffices in the meantime.
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krabman said:
S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
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do you have the link for it? when I try to open it, it says the following:
"Unable to open app
Because of a new security policy introduced in version 5.0, Knox is not available on compromised devices"
I've already frozen all the knox apps I could find in TB.
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
shinew said:
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
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S Health may use Knox to protect your health data (HIPAA in the USA).
The S-health thing is new, people are circumventing it by an app that lets you access the widget and from it you can open it up or some such, don't use it so I paid little attention to the fix. Don't remember where I saw that but it's here somewhere shine, I would peruse the development threads, I'm thinking I saw it in one of them.
Hi guys,
I got a Poco X3 NFC and I hope you can help me.
I'm not on the Poco X3 NFC forum because I think this is related to the fact that I rooted my phone rather than my model.
I use an app called FreeStyle Librelink that is used to monitor my glucose level for my diabete using NFC and a sensor on my arm.
I read online that they locked the use of the app for rooted phone. (yeah, what a jerk move)
The app simply crash when I launch it. I tried to hide the root through the magisk app without success. Do you think there is a workaround for me or I have no other choice than unroot the phone ?
And I deeply hope that it's not the unlocked bootloader that is the source of the problem rather than the root itself. I have the classic method involving a drop of blood to test my sugar level but I will not give up the confort that this sensor is.
Thank you to anyone that can think of something.
manganok said:
Hi guys,
I got a Poco X3 NFC and I hope you can help me.
I'm not on the Poco X3 NFC forum because I think this is related to the fact that I rooted my phone rather than my model.
I use an app called FreeStyle Librelink that is used to monitor my glucose level for my diabete using NFC and a sensor on my arm.
I read online that they locked the use of the app for rooted phone. (yeah, what a jerk move)
The app simply crash when I launch it. I tried to hide the root through the magisk app without success. Do you think there is a workaround for me or I have no other choice than unroot the phone ?
And I deeply hope that it's not the unlocked bootloader that is the source of the problem rather than the root itself. I have the classic method involving a drop of blood to test my sugar level but I will not give up the confort that this sensor is.
Thank you to anyone that can think of something.
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You can send feedback about it. You can unroot mobile. You need to remove super user from sbin.
i had the same problem with my librelink app, the solution is open Magisk app and click Uninstall Magisk then once the device reboots, you can use the Librelink app as normal
reflash Magisk/install again with whatever modules you use
you need to uninstall Magisk each time you want to use the librelink app, hope this helps anybody
There's an easier fix that lets you keep root.
Go to magisk, shield icon, magiskhide and select librelink. Didn't need reboot.
I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
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I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
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Uninstall Google Translate.
Have you tried going into settings privacy and then permissions manager and see what it says for microphone
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I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
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Now playing, google assistant hotword, voice access, live caption, live transcribe, sound amplifier, sound notifications... there are so many features that use the microphone in the background. Are you absolutely sure that you deactivated ALL of them? And those are only the pre-installed Google Pixel features.
What kind of apps have you installed?
A post like that is not very helpful, there is simply not enough information. There can be a thousand reasons as to why the microphones get accessed in the background.
I had the same thing happening to me, then I was scrolling through Developer options one day and realized that the "Shared Data" option was highlighted, so I clicked ot and there were like 3 million "snippets" from Google translate in there. I never even OPENED the app since I got my phone. I uninstalled Google Translate and that option got greyed out. Check your developer options and see if that's highlighted.
Thanks guys, the only app that used mic in privacy settings is Google app...
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Thanks guys, the only app that used mic in privacy settings is Google app...
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I guess that's good since it makes it less likely that you've installed a rogue app.
I think Google has gotten better with privacy, and can still do considerably better, but your title is wrong and misleading.
As others have noted above, Google needs access to your mike to be able to provide a bunch of its features, like Assistant and Playing Now. You can turn these off if you don't want the mike on.
Google controls the OS, s if they really wanted to "spy" on you, they would not be throwing warnings...
Where's your faraday hat?
Google's business is spying on you.
Best tips:
Root your device, cut away any/all Google apps and services as well as other malware like Facebook and replace them with alternatives except the few you can't live without.
Install a tool like App Manager (from F-droid) and strictly set permissions for everything running on your device
Run LSPosed+Xprivacy modules (requires Riru) and block out unwanted access from both apps and system processes.
If you are worried about your privacy then i am not sure buying a google product is the best place to start to protect it if i am honest.
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GrapheneOS??? Sandboxes gapps in a separate user profile.
Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
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Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Nope
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
Nope
Andrologic said:
Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
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Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
Nope
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