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Hey guys,
I just wanted to ask if you could help me decide which phone to get for Christmas.
I am currently owning a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 (Mtk) but the lack of development is driving me crazy. It's not a bad phone at all but still sticking to Android 5.0 or 5.1 in times of Android 7.0 is a nightmare for me who loves to have the newest OS for testing.
So my question would be: what phone should I buy with a Budget of maybe 400-450€. Is the oneplus 3 the phone to go with in terms of futureproof Updates or should I go for the Nexus 6p which apparently has a better Screen but only has the SD810 ? What would you buy? Reasons?
Thanks in advance
I was torn between the two a few weeks ago but went for the OP3 due to its size. :angel:
The 6P is just too big at the end of the day. :crying:
Its a really difficult future to predict. On one hand, you should defiantly go for the 6P due to its instant updates. On the other hand, Google may lessen there support for Nexus devices as there focus has changed with the Pixel. The 3GB of RAM and SD810 is also concerning.
The OP3 is a fantastic phone with blistering performance. If you buy this, you do so accepting that you will always be at least 6 months behind what is happening on the 6P. 2 years down the line however, the tables may turn due to the superior hardware of the OP3.
If you change your phone often, maybe the 6P is the way to go. If you don't, the OP3 is probably a better bet.
Thanks for your answer.
Maybe if the rumors are true Oneplus will present the 3+ till the end of the Year and this will lower the price of the 3, but I guess I will go for this phone as its Hardware in comparison to its price is unbeatable and I think the big Community is making the lack of instant Updates good.
Hope to see a fully working CM14 here soon
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Thanks for your answer.
Maybe if the rumors are true Oneplus will present the 3+ till the end of the Year and this will lower the price of the 3, but I guess I will go for this phone as its Hardware in comparison to its price is unbeatable and I think the big Community is making the lack of instant Updates good.
Hope to see a fully working CM14 here soon
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Good call Olli,
I'd go for the current OP3 as the OLED screen is really nice and would be better than an LCD especially if they don't upgrade the battery.
Masteryates said:
Good call Olli,
I'd go for the current OP3 as the OLED screen is really nice and would be better than an LCD especially if they don't upgrade the battery.
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That's true even when they would Upgrade to SD821 and 2k Display. Because HD looks just as good.
Those rumors are already confirmed by Carl Pei to be false.
There won't be "refresh" version of OP3, next OP phone will be OP4.
Also OP will stick with AMOLED, they're done with LCD.
About your dilemma: I'd say OP3 is the best option in this price range. Community support is as good as for Nexuses and soon this will matter a lot more than official support.
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OnePlus 3 has better performance in all areas, Nexus 6P takes better pictures (particularly in low light)
If you must have Nougat now, go with the nexus. I very much doubt there's a new OnePlus device due any time soon, and even if there was I don't think a significant price cut is on the cards (margins where thin enough to require a £20 rise at the beginning of sterlings collapse).
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OnePlus 3 has better performance in all areas, Nexus 6P takes better pictures (particularly in low light)
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Is the OP3 performance better than the 6P or is it better than the 6P just because you can leave loads of apps in RAM and therefore have 0 launch time on the OP3?
It does beg the question.......What would a device be like with a SD410 and 16GB RAM? The slow SD410 may not seem slow as all apps could be left in RAM. The SD410 is also excellent when it comes to battery life.
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Is the OP3 performance better than the 6P or is it better than the 6P just because you can leave loads of apps in RAM and therefore have 0 launch time on the OP3?
It does beg the question.......What would a device be like with a SD410 and 16GB RAM? The slow SD410 may not seem slow as all apps could be left in RAM. The SD410 is also excellent when it comes to battery life.
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I'm not even taking RAM and app re drawing into account. The OnePlus 3 is noticeably faster (especially the camera app)
I think i'll go with the OP3 as its more futureproof in my Eyes thank you all
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Is the OP3 performance better than the 6P or is it better than the 6P just because you can leave loads of apps in RAM and therefore have 0 launch time on the OP3?
It does beg the question.......What would a device be like with a SD410 and 16GB RAM? The slow SD410 may not seem slow as all apps could be left in RAM. The SD410 is also excellent when it comes to battery life.
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I have seen speed test OP3 VS 6P and the OP3 smokes the 6P. This is when you are loading apps initially.
I am using google pixel XL from last one week but already got bored with it. I bought Pixel after using many phones i.e Galaxy S7 edge, Redmi note 3 Pro, Nexus 5X, Lg G5 etc
I agree camera of Pixel is probably best but still very much comparable to previous Nexus 5X/6p. Galaxy s7 edge was faster to focus and was better in low light and for moving object whereas Pixel offer sharp and best still photography. I got bored because i miss certain features for example there is no real water proofing, no sd card, no miracast when much cheaper redmi note 3 can be connected to TV without any WIFI etc. Google want us to invest in chromecast that cannot even connect to mobile without WifI . samsung also offered sidesync which was great to connect mobile with laptop to watch media and use all application on PC.
I am confuse whether to stick with Pixel Xl or resell it. I will lose probably another 50 quid if decide to sell it. I got it cheaper for £308 by selling s7 edge for £270 but now i regret because i think google is charging way too much just for camera and software and is not actually all rounder to compete with features offer by others brand . How many of you are actually content with this phone ?
I had the explosive note, the new iPhone 7+ when it came out and the S7 Edge . The Google Pixel Camera is far the best and on top of that, the Pixel has not crashed once on me yet. The Samsung devices are bloated and laggy after a week yet my pixel stands in perfect condition and I had the worst experience with the iPhone got it replaced twice in 3 weeks and had crashes with bad battery life. I was worried about storage too and I got the 128 GB but all the photos I take get backed up and I still have 80GB+ left. Sure it's not water proof but how often do you swim with your phone? IF you need to take your phone in a dive you should get a water proof pouch anyways or it might just slip away. I have dropped it in water, in fact I took it on a jetski and water got in the pouch but the phone was fine. For the TV compatibility that really depends on you, I have wifi at home so I have no issues.
To sum it up you won't get the silky smooth performance like the pixel on another phone, the correct colors (Samsung saturation crap) and unlimited photo/vid storage. One of the key points was google photos for me since I take photos on a DSLR too and just transfer and upload.
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I had the explosive note, the new iPhone 7+ when it came out and the S7 Edge . The Google Pixel Camera is far the best and on top of that, the Pixel has not crashed once on me yet. The Samsung devices are bloated and laggy after a week yet my pixel stands in perfect condition and I had the worst experience with the iPhone got it replaced twice in 3 weeks and had crashes with bad battery life. I was worried about storage too and I got the 128 GB but all the photos I take get backed up and I still have 80GB+ left. Sure it's not water proof but how often do you swim with your phone? IF you need to take your phone in a dive you should get a water proof pouch anyways or it might just slip away. I have dropped it in water, in fact I took it on a jetski and water got in the pouch but the phone was fine. For the TV compatibility that really depends on you, I have wifi at home so I have no issues.
To sum it up you won't get the silky smooth performance like the pixel on another phone, the correct colors (Samsung saturation crap) and unlimited photo/vid storage. One of the key points was google photos for me since I take photos on a DSLR too and just transfer and upload.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I understand your smooth software experience with pixel . I actually never felt any lag with previous devices .. may be because i am not into gaming/heavy tasks and also rooted s7 edge and removed bloatware . I think touchwiz is getting better ..I was quiet happy with s7 edge except still photography as day lights photos was overexposed and that was the reason of purchasing Pixel . I thought it will support basic stuff like screen mirroring .. they have cast button but i guess it only support chromecast . Is there any way to connect mobile with Chromecast without Wifi. I mean i have unlimited internet on my phone and 30 gb can be used as hotspot? or if rooting and installing any custom ROm will support mira casting?
Secondly Is not google unlimited photo and videos only valid if you taken them with Pixel? Is not google free high quality already enough for 12 MP still photography? I honestly dont understand the hype about camera of Pixel when its exactly the same as those of nexus 5x/6P. I dont see the reason why someone who own 6p should upgrade to very expensive pixel XL. look at these same photo comparison which i have taken from old nexus 5x and pixel XL
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/review/photo-quality-t3484842/page9
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I understand your smooth software experience with pixel . I actually never felt any lag with previous devices .. may be because i am not into gaming/heavy tasks and also rooted s7 edge and removed bloatware . I think touchwiz is getting better ..I was quiet happy with s7 edge except still photography as day lights photos was overexposed and that was the reason of purchasing Pixel . I thought it will support basic stuff like screen mirroring .. they have cast button but i guess it only support chromecast . Is there any way to connect mobile with Chromecast without Wifi. I mean i have unlimited internet on my phone and 30 gb can be used as hotspot? or if rooting and installing any custom ROm will support mira casting?
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I don't play games on my phone and i notice a lot of hiccups. They may seem small but can be very annoying when apps crash and your phone gets hot over stupid tiny things, there's also the s**t Samsung multitasking, i don't know if they've improved it but when I had it if you ran 3 apps and tried to switch back to the first one you it would restart it to conserve RAM. The software was horribly optimized and I have heard S8 followed it in the steps. I do enjoy Googles fast updates, I hated waiting months for carriers to give android updates. Aside from that I honestly don't know anything about Mira cast and I've never had issues with casting I've used my laptop to stream to my TV and I like having my phone strain free. Do you not have WiFi at home? Or do you feel limited to the apps for chrome cast? Every video streaming app that I have except Amazon Video has cast. You can use your laptop to stream personal videos on to it too and your phone. I don't know if you need an internet connection for that but you do need a WiFi setup. Also I'm so satisfied with my Pixel it's not even rooted so I wouldn't know any ROMs.
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Secondly Is not google unlimited photo and videos only valid if you taken them with Pixel? Is not google free high quality already enough for 12 MP still photography? I honestly dont understand the hype about camera of Pixel when its exactly the same as those of nexus 5x/6P. I dont see the reason why someone who own 6p should upgrade to very expensive pixel XL. look at these same photo comparison which i have taken from old nexus 5x and pixel XL
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/review/photo-quality-t3484842/page9
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Those photos are very different I want you to look at the shadows, the cracks, the blur shown on smaller sharper objects. You'll notice a lot more depth or dynamic range. I'm not a professional photographer but an average person should notice it. I believe the photos compared are S7 and 6P? You have to realize the price difference between those 2 is quite a lot. Look up more Pixel and S7/S8 photo comparisons and you'll see the differences. One thing you should try out on the pixel is capturing video, try something drastic like a bumpy ride and record 4K and see the magical software do its thing. Lastly, all photos/videos uploaded from your Google Pixel are uploaded at original resolution and that's why I record everything in 4K and the USB adapter that came in box is awesome to transfer files and upload them from an external device.
These are some of the things I've noticed and you don't need to upgrade really, the 6P is quite quick still and if you want a cheaper phone with crazy performance try the One Plus. They're some of the craziest quickest phones ever.
Depends on how much you bought yours for, for me, I paid 67000 INR for it, and no, no phone is worth that money, not even Pixel. But being a Samsung user for the better part of my android life I am never gonna buy anything other than Stock android, so Pixel it is. Best camera, best software, what more do you need in a phone? **** all those gimmicky Samsung looks (though Pixel's bezels are huge and should be shrunken on next version) when paired with garbage software. Android still is not iOS in terms of optimisation, and bloated garbage laggy crappy skinned iterations just make it even worse.
Am I happy with mine? Yes. Completely? No. Why? Because my Pixel always had this random freezing issue (and I am on my fourth XL, all of them had it), and I absolutely hate that. With that issue being completely gone this is the best android phone I have ever used, even with the issue is.
If you plan to resell it then do it now when Pixel 2 is still more than two months away, otherwise stick with it for another year. What other phone is there which I might recommend instead? Nothing! Like I said, best camera, best software, I don't think there could be a more important combo to factor in, but Pixel's price should be around 500-600 USD or something. In any case over my dead body I am ever gonna go back to them Samsungs, or try some LG or something.
Good value for money note so sure, a great phone yes
I'm thinking about finally buying a new phone to replace my old nexus 5x... Pixel 2 XL is definitely on my list, as well as V30.
But I've looked at the speed tests on YouTube from the phonebuff guy and it struck me that all the Android phones with less than 6gb ram struggle greatly with the test in opening all the apps for the second time. For me it's really close to daily usage test and I must say that I notice it more and more switching from different apps. None of the phones with 6gb (oneplus 5, P10, s8+) as well as iPhone 7 / 7 plus had any issues in that manner. On the other hand side I'm not a gamer so not sure whether I will notice that problem at all with a 4Gb phone...
I also don't think that the oreo will bring any improvement (at least it didn't to my 5x).
Not sure what to do now... I'll also wait for the huawei mate 10 and then make a decision...
Any thoughts?
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I have a Nexus 5X as well and while 2GB isn't enough in my experience it's just barely not enough. I personally am not concerned at all that 4GB isn't going to be enough.
I had a regular xl and it was really smooth on Oreo. I'm not really worried about 4 gb
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4 GB is plenty of horsepower! ????
Lol.. Like Gates... 640KB ought to be enough for anybody
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If 4GB Ram is enough for Galaxy S8+, which it is, I have one! With all TW nonsense,
it'd surely be enough for Pixel 2/XL devices as well!
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If 4GB Ram is enough for Galaxy S8+, which it is, I have one! With all TW nonsense,
it'd surely be enough for Pixel 2/XL devices as well!
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Agreed. My Galaxy S8 ran buttery smooth with 4GB RAM, even with the obnoxious amount of bloatware Samsung puts on the phone. I used the S8 as my daily driver for 4 months and never had a hiccup/stutter. So the Pixel 2 XL should be perfectly fine with 4GB RAM.
Oddly enough, my 4 day old LG V30 with 4GB RAM stutters/lags all over the place. However, I truly believe this is due to LG's software needing some significant performance optimization, rather than the phone having 4GB RAM.
I can't wait to get my Pixel 2 XL and turn this V30 back into T-Mobile.
I ran every single app on my phone back to back while setting up my 2XL. I have over 100 apps installed. At one point I needed to go back to play something I had left running on the Xfinity streaming app. When I used the app switcher, it was like I never unloaded the program, and I was something like 20-30 apps deep at that point. It loaded exactly where I left it and exactly where I paused it.
Whatever they're doing with the software is great and 4 gigs seems like more than enough.
On every phone I've owned I'm always most interested in performance so this is great to hear.
I know I'm going to be happy with the screen, I know I'm going to love the camera and I've already held the phone in a verizon store, so I know I love the look and feel. The performance seemed terrific in the store but I couldn't really put it through its paces so thanks for the update.
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I ran every single app on my phone back to back while setting up my 2XL. I have over 100 apps installed. At one point I needed to go back to play something I had left running on the Xfinity streaming app. When I used the app switcher, it was like I never unloaded the program, and I was something like 20-30 apps deep at that point. It loaded exactly where I left it and exactly where I paused it.
Whatever they're doing with the software is great and 4 gigs seems like more than enough.
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I have a OnePlus 3 I'm coming from and have literally never seen more than 4GB RAM in use
Yes l have a op5 yes l have 8GB of ram yes it's better than only 4GB of ram .
Hope this helps ?
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a g bell said:
Yes l have a op5 yes l have 8GB of ram yes it's better than only 4GB of ram .
Hope this helps
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How is it better? I have OP3 with 6GB and don't notice much of a difference with RAM on Nexus 6P already which has 3GB
I guess it just boggles my mind that 4gb can somehow not be "enough" on a phone today when 4gb can most definitely be "enough" when using a full desktop PC.
And yes I get it.....8gb is preferable on desktop PC's now. I understand. But if you ONLY used a desktop PC for the exact same things you use a phone for, 4gb is not an issue. At all.
<RobinQuivers>"Six Inches Is Fine!"</RobinQuivers>
I'm with a huge doubt, which one to buy? an OP5T or a GP 2 XL, what I most want is to have a good battery life. But I've been thinking and looking for forums for 3 days but I do not decide. I would be very grateful for your answers and recommendations.
The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
While the OnePlus 5t is a great phone, I sold it because I just think the LG v30 is the best phone out now.
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While the OnePlus 5t is a great phone, I sold it because I just think the LG v30 is the best phone out now.
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Well, maybe the best phone out for *you*. Everyone has specifics they're looking for. LG V30 is a great phone, and so is OP5T, and my preferences for me, I need a solid development community.:silly:
I was torn between this exact decision as well myself, given how many hardware issues the Pixel 2 XL is suffering from. Was test driving the 5T the past 2 weeks vs. my current Huawei Mate 9, and in the end, I decided to return the 5T and just ordered the Pixel 2 XL. The new discount Google has on the Pixel 2's helped to drive that decision. Pretty much came entirely down to the camera. The 5T for its price is literally perfect IMO from an overall hardware and software experience, except for the darn camera. I spent a lot of days comparing pics between the Mate 9 and 5T, and there are clearly some shots where the 5T had trouble with in the fine edge details, turning things into that infamous oil painting mess. It's funny because I typically don't obsess over the camera so much, except that when I need a camera, I REALLY need it to capture memorable moments, and I want it to reliably produce the best instant snap picture quality possible, without me having to second guess it. That aside, the 5T's software and hardware has been rock solid stable, insanely fast, and the battery life has just been amazing, easily 2 days for me with regular usage.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the most I've ever spent on a phone, and I skipped last year's Pixel precisely because of its price. I was on a Nexus 6P till this past summer, when its battery issues finally got too bad...now that was one phone I loved dearly. I've never kept a phone longer than 6 months till the 6P, which I bought at launch and kept for a year and a half. So here's to hoping I can live with the Pixel 2 XL's flaws for me to love everything else about it. I really don't want to ever go to a Samsung if I can avoid it, as I hate bloatware phones, not to mention everybody and their dog has a Samsung/Apple nowdays.
I need a development support phone. That means bootloader unlocking to not break safetynet and run custom ROMs/Kernels, not just rooting and breaking stuff like Samsung. V30 LG isn't worth the $800, and V30+ certainly not worth the $900+ IMHO.
For the money, I would expect more from them all. My only gripe with Samsung, no Bootloader unlocking for US phones...so, it checks all the boxes I have and need.
Otherwise, 5T is a really great phone for the money....only complaint is lack of SDCard, but can run USB-OTG and get around that, wireless charging would be nice. Otherwise, bang for the buck, dev support, can't be beat the 5T.
After having the 5T for some 2-3 weeks now, I would say get the Pixel 2 XL ONLY because better camera and Android updates. But ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. Meaning you won't starve yourself or anything if you can get it. If you can truly afford it, you might as well get it.
With that being said, the 5T isn't a bad device at all. OxygenOS is basically stock Android some you coming from a Nexus device, like myself, you'll feel right at home. Especially if you've used LineageOS or some other custom ROM. On the flip side, you'll be stuck on Nougat 7.1.1 for a little bit. As I've mentioned before, coming from a Nexus device, whenever I heard about new Android updates I immediately flashed it, because I could. Because it was available to us like that. With the 5T, I had to switch gears and rely on ROMs to get back to the latest and greatest, or just stay on the current version of OOS. Which isn't bad by any means. I would've been happier if the 5T had shipped with at least 7.1.2 on board, because there's some functionality there that makes the previous version bearable. 7.1.1., not so much. But it is what it is. Substratum themes don't really work too well either.
But that's mostly cosmetic stuff. So, again, if you can actually afford it, get the P2XL. But if you wanna be SMART about your money, get the 5T. Aside from a lacking camera and lack of immediate Android OS updates, there's truly not much you're missing out on with the 5T compared to the P2XL. Outside of Pixel-exclusive features, that is.
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The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
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Did you know that the price of Google Pixel 2 XL has fallen by nearly 45% because people are not purchasing it and many who purchased are returning it back within the refund period of 10 days given by Amazon. Need I say more?
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Did you know that the price of Google Pixel 2 XL has fallen by nearly 45% because people are not purchasing it and many who purchased are returning it back within the refund period of 10 days given by Amazon. Need I say more?
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Here in Canada, after tax, the Pixel 2XL is roughly $1275 (as of this posting). The total I paid for the OnePlus 5T was $730 after the student discount and tax. That's still about a $500+ jump in price, still not worth it for me at least.
I really don't have a lot of options. Coming from a bootlooped 5X (reason why I will never a LG phone) and really wanted that stock feel with lots of custom development. Only choice for me was 5T and Pixel 2, and sadly Pixel 2 doesn't sell where I am.
And I really don't care that much about wireless charging, camera or the 1080P display. Quite an easy choice for me.
I really think it's worth it.
the oneplus 5t camera is its biggest weakness. i really hate the camera and i dont even use the camera that much. coming from a samsung S6, even the S6 takes a fat pile of dookie all over the 5T camera
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The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
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Well, I think it's an amazing phone for the price and everything it offers, but, how bad is the camera?
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I was torn between this exact decision as well myself, given how many hardware issues the Pixel 2 XL is suffering from. Was test driving the 5T the past 2 weeks vs. my current Huawei Mate 9, and in the end, I decided to return the 5T and just ordered the Pixel 2 XL. The new discount Google has on the Pixel 2's helped to drive that decision. Pretty much came entirely down to the camera. The 5T for its price is literally perfect IMO from an overall hardware and software experience, except for the darn camera. I spent a lot of days comparing pics between the Mate 9 and 5T, and there are clearly some shots where the 5T had trouble with in the fine edge details, turning things into that infamous oil painting mess. It's funny because I typically don't obsess over the camera so much, except that when I need a camera, I REALLY need it to capture memorable moments, and I want it to reliably produce the best instant snap picture quality possible, without me having to second guess it. That aside, the 5T's software and hardware has been rock solid stable, insanely fast, and the battery life has just been amazing, easily 2 days for me with regular usage.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the most I've ever spent on a phone, and I skipped last year's Pixel precisely because of its price. I was on a Nexus 6P till this past summer, when its battery issues finally got too bad...now that was one phone I loved dearly. I've never kept a phone longer than 6 months till the 6P, which I bought at launch and kept for a year and a half. So here's to hoping I can live with the Pixel 2 XL's flaws for me to love everything else about it. I really don't want to ever go to a Samsung if I can avoid it, as I hate bloatware phones, not to mention everybody and their dog has a Samsung/Apple nowdays.
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So brother, in a few words you recommend me for pixel 2 xl? If this the possibility of saving money I do it (and I go for the 5t) but if I really have such a bad experience with the camera OF 5T. Well, I think I would go by PIXEL XL2 . (I come from the s7 and I guess the 5t will have a very bad camera)
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Well, I think it's an amazing phone for the price and everything it offers, but, how bad is the camera?
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The camera isn't necessarily bad, but isn't good either. It's just an average camera in my opinion. If you're not super picky on getting super clean shots then I think you'd be more than okay with it
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After having the 5T for some 2-3 weeks now, I would say get the Pixel 2 XL ONLY because better camera and Android updates. But ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. Meaning you won't starve yourself or anything if you can get it. If you can truly afford it, you might as well get it.
With that being said, the 5T isn't a bad device at all. OxygenOS is basically stock Android some you coming from a Nexus device, like myself, you'll feel right at home. Especially if you've used LineageOS or some other custom ROM. On the flip side, you'll be stuck on Nougat 7.1.1 for a little bit. As I've mentioned before, coming from a Nexus device, whenever I heard about new Android updates I immediately flashed it, because I could. Because it was available to us like that. With the 5T, I had to switch gears and rely on ROMs to get back to the latest and greatest, or just stay on the current version of OOS. Which isn't bad by any means. I would've been happier if the 5T had shipped with at least 7.1.2 on board, because there's some functionality there that makes the previous version bearable. 7.1.1., not so much. But it is what it is. Substratum themes don't really work too well either.
But that's mostly cosmetic stuff. So, again, if you can actually afford it, get the P2XL. But if you wanna be SMART about your money, get the 5T. Aside from a lacking camera and lack of immediate Android OS updates, there's truly not much you're missing out on with the 5T compared to the P2XL. Outside of Pixel-exclusive features, that is.
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the read the comments, the camera is much worse than I think. And now I have been planted a great doubt.
The camera is not that bad. You have gcam port too anyways...
Pixel is a scam imo
chinkster said:
the oneplus 5t camera is its biggest weakness. i really hate the camera and i dont even use the camera that much. coming from a samsung S6, even the S6 takes a fat pile of dookie all over the 5T camera
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So the 5t camera is very very bad. I got used to the camera of my s7, but I thought that the 5t could be on par.
Is it really bad camera?
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the read the comments, the camera is much worse than I think. And now I have been planted a great doubt.
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The camera isn't bad, it's just not super great. Other cameras are better for sure, but that's what you get for more money.
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fuarkgl3 said:
The camera is not that bad. You have gcam port too anyways...
Pixel is a scam imo
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With what camera could you compare brother? maybe with my s7? best? worst? at par?
I hope my perspective helps your decision. I'm smartphone power user. I don't play games but I am multitasking a lot. Whatever I can do on the move using the phone, without turning my PC or laptop, I'll do it. E.g. 3 browsers installed with around 10+ pages on each, diverse google drive docs running scripts, 350 apps, you name it, it's on my phone. So long I can remember, I was looking for the best phone with the best community (phone customization and fixes), and therefore switching between Google Nexus/OnePlus phones. I wanted the best, regardless of price so I was ready to go with Pixel XL2. Until I saw the screen issue. If you are looking at XL2 from an angle, any angle, like have it on your desk, table, sofa, screen will turn bluish. That alone was enough for me to look for better phone. Another thing to keep in mind is that Pixel XL2 has only 4 GB of ram and that would not be enough for me. I went with OnePlus 5T and I don't regret it a bit. Yes, camera is not as good, no OiS, no optical zoom either, and I'll do with Gmod camera or open camera. Can't have everything, I guess.
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
GCbard said:
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider! ??
Badger50 said:
I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider!
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Same. I wonder if they realize how many customers they are losing out on by continuing to not put in certain bands. Or, do they need someone's permission? Either way: notch = no sale, for me.
I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
allweknowisa said:
I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
Str0ntium said:
Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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I understand somebody can upgrade their Pixel 2 XL to an S9 or S9+ with the main reason of having a way better screen, but I think OP6 screen will not be worth the switch.
If it worked on VZW, would ditch the Pixel and go back to the OnePlus in a second. It is better in every single way except the camera. But the 6 might close that gap more.
one thing is having used 3, 3T and 5, there is a touch latency where it cannot even beat Nexus 6p. seems liek there is lag while 6p, 2xl there isnt any.
however the 6 do interest me with the screen to size ratio.. notch doesnt bother me
Nada! Our Pixel XL 2 keeps getting better and better with more Development! Salute'
I was an upgrade every year user before but have turned into an every two year person now. So 2019 for me but I'm also still waiting for a Sprint compatible variant which will probably never come. I'll never be switching carriers as Sprint is good everywhere I need it to be and cost is good.
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I was thinking about getting one as a secondary device, just because it seems like OnePlus is replacing/has replaced the now dead Nexus line in terms of development.
It would be nice to have a device to just tinker with and install mods, ROMs, kernels, and so on.
But I'd definitely keep the Pixel 2 XL as my daily driver just because of things like the camera and overall smoothness of stock Android.
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
GCbard said:
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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The day OnePlus supports Verizon is the day I will spend money on a phone of theirs. I am patiently waiting with money in hand.
Short ans no
Long ans still no
Cheers ?
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Phazonclash said:
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I see your points but just a little devil's advocate here, your missing one of the best reasons to get a OnePlus. It's got the best performance for the money. Yes they've been climbing up in price every year but it's still ~$250-$300 less than comparable Pixel and Galaxy phones. Yet it's one of the fastest in everyday multitasking, great RAM management, and very good battery. Even if they have it rise up to $599 for the higher OnePlus 6 model, it's still a decent savings.
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Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
Phazonclash said:
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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Have you even owned a OnePlus 5T? Doesn't sound like it. You are spreading misinformation. The main developers are former XDA/Custom Rom Devs who were hired to work for OnePlus. They have Beta releases which they freely communicate and offer instructions/support how to install and run. The last Beta 3 had full fling/swipe gestures which at the same time expanded the screen fully, not the bad fling Nav gestures that are on the custom Roms here which still leave the bottom part of the screen blank/Nav space present and don't expand the view/icons etc to the bottom to gain full use. That is fully functioning in the OnePlus 5T Beta 3 released that is rock solid overall with few bugs. The profile of the 5T phone/near frameless/size are all way ahead of the Pixel 2 XL. The AMOLED screen is much better on the 5T than the Pixel XL 2 in every way. To say the screen is good on this phone is ridiculous with all of the verified off angle blue tint and other issues that became a public fiasco for Google. Mind boggling why this phone looks and performs the way it does with Google in control of the process. The only thing they don't have is the camera/software on the OnePlus. They have some of the best Devs who came from XDA/Custom Rom worlds...hence why they were hired to work for them. Read up on those facts/history is you would like. Also, they have some of the good Dev support from XDA, only second I would say to HTC Dev. This new Pixel with Treble has caused a lot of issues, and soon everybody is going to be dealing with, even OnePlus and other manufacturers since they have no choice. So the future should get better for everybody.
Clean Android experience? Oxygen OS is already pretty stripped down. You can run Nova on it like I do with the Pixel, or AOSP or whatever, it is just as generic and they are open to the standard Google Android experience as anybody, with their own twist if you choose to run their launcher.
Memory/processor loaded up on the OnePlus 5T. No SDCard like a lot of phones today, but dual sim slots if you need it. It is a great performing phone, up there with the best for much less money. If they implement VZW band support and improve that camera, I'm ditching this Google Pixel XL 2 phone is a heartbeat. I personally was running the latest Beta 3 on my 5T with swipe gestures and Nova, unlocked, rooted with blu_sprk custom Kernel/TWRP version and it was a phenomenal performer and great phone. Since I don't take a lot of photos and use the camera that much...really not a big deal. I have a $3k SLR if I want to be serious about photography to use.
But to each his own. Only reason I even am using this Pixel is because there are very few phones on VZW which you can unlock the bootloader/root and maintain functionality to customize it. Only other phone you can buy to do this really is a V30+, and even then, not as good as the Pixel 2 XL.
Not in a million years. On contract in the UK you're basically paying top dollar for a sub par phone. Did they ever fix the upside down jelly displays or put a decent cam in them yet?
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
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I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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I'm forecasting the opposite. After not meeting sales projections for the year, they will drop this notch foolishness like a hot potato.
We each have a 50/50 shot at being correct. I hope I am, btw.