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Hi. Im in the Army and found out Im going to Afghanistan soon. I am looking for an android tablet/hybrid (not looking for a Surface) to hold me over until I we get things set up and I can have my wife ship my gaming laptop over (which is why i dont want a Surface, as I already have a windows device). what I need it to do: read comics, read ebooks, watch videos (by that I mean mostly 1080p 10bit x265 HEVC videos), play games, and skype. ok, the comics, ebooks, and skype dont need much hardware for that, but the videos and games need a good processor. So far I've read the wifi sucks...and other say that the wifi doesnt suck, that it has issues playing games and others say there isnt an issue playing games, etc. Can someone give me their opinion on if this would meet all my needs. Thanks for your help.
howdy, this would meet all your needs, wifi only has issues if you are at a distance from access point and seems to only affect in higher bandwidth internet connections. (hasnt had any effect on mine but im less then 30 meters from AP with adsl connection).
the screen ratio is really good for reading comic etc, wide screen movies have bars but most tablets do this, these days
performance wise this is still the strongest android tablet on the market, will run everything no problem
battery life is pretty good on this tablet too easy get 11 hours screen time over a 3-5 day period on a single charge.
ive said this before but i have owned every major android tablet release from nexus 7 onward and normally get disappointed and sell after a few months but the pixel c really has given me no regrets and would highly recommend it
Thanks for your response. I do like 4:3 ratio-type tablets better than wide-screen for books and comics. I doubt where I'm going there'll be high bandwidth Internet anyway. Lol
Ive had zero issues with mone from the beginning so i dont really know how much i can add. The screen is great and battery life is superb. Its done everything ive wanted.
I bought one and it's to be delivered tomorrow. I'm coming from a Nexus 9, which I really like, but wanted a change. If for some reason the Pixel C is not what you were looking for, the Nexus 9 is a really good device that will easily do what you seem to want to do with a tablet, plus they've really come down in price lately.
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I bought one and it's to be delivered tomorrow. I'm coming from a Nexus 9, which I really like, but wanted a change. If for some reason the Pixel C is not what you were looking for, the Nexus 9 is a really good device that will easily do what you seem to want to do with a tablet, plus they've really come down in price lately.
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I actually was looking at the Nexus 9 with its keyboard as a 2nd option. saw them for decent prices on Amazon. but, im pretty sure im gonna get the Pixel now since it is new and hoping that Google keeps improving it with updates.
It's a great device, get it.
In my opinion, it's a device that's not ready for prime time. There are issues or have been issues with almost every facet of this tablet from build quality to touchscreen issues to display quality to keyboard support and still currently major wifi issues. One of the reasons I cannot recommend the device. For now, the best android tablet is the tab s2 9.7 inch, you get the 4:3 display, a super amoled screen which makes reading easier. A stable device with fast wifi speeds and one of the lightest tablets out there. For extended all day battery life, keep the display brightness on 40 to 50% and all battery life concerns are solved. You will get all day battery life with this setting. There is also microsd card support if you want added memory.
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I think the no BS answer is that you are rolling the dice. If it works for you, it's an excellent device, although the keyboard is (still) a little glitchy. If it doesn't, you'll be in Afghanistan coping with a device giving you stupid problems. Have a good backup system.
Since I just applied another software update a few minutes ago (March 1 security patch), I will add that the reason I rolled the dice on the Pixel C was exactly that -- the promise of future software updates and the hope that the initial glitches that have been plaguing some people would eventually be fixed. I just read an Anandtech article saying that the Feb update fixed many of the touchscreen issues they were having, which is good news.
on 5Ghz wifi, and no problems. Wifi range is predominately determined by the Wifi router, not the Wifi device...
I really like the Pixel C. However it's the wrong size/format for single handed traditional tablet use. But it sounds like you have already decided to get it with the keyboard, so thats not an issue.
The hardware build quality is amazing, I think you will be pleased with it. make sure to get the latest OTAs it makes a huge difference to the device.
Bought in Dec with the keyboard or whenever it came out and ended up sending it back. It didn't seem ready for prime time. Laggy and stuttery screen pick up.
Excellent build quality for both the tab and the keyboard.
Just purchased with the discount and updated to the latest 6.01 and its great. Very responsive so far, with none of the initial issues. Never had wifi issues but am not far from the router, so likely why.
Didn't get the keyboard this time as overall the two together it was quite heavy, it had no backlit keys and disconnecting from the tab always made me feel like I was going to scratch the screen. Likely wouldn't of happened but didn't feel right. As well as I didn't think it was worth the £120.
@jeebugorn - Not sure if you ever got it, but perhaps also consider Remix OS running on your Pixel C.
Here are the download links and the tutorial on how to flash:
Pixel C: http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/pixelc
Nexus 9: http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/nexus9
Tutorial on how to flash onto your device:
https://jide.zendesk.com/knowledge/a...rand_id=449827
Thanks!
I really, really like the Pixel C. I like it so much that I hope my 4th one works. The first one died after one day. The second one died after several months. The third one died after one hour.
I've been debating whether I should actually keep the next replacement when it arrives or sell it while it's still sealed in the box and get something else.
I don't mean to hate on the product or on Google. There must be a large majority of people who just get them and use them without any big issues.
If it doesn't die it's a terrific device. Despite my exasperating experience I'm still going to give it one more go because I don't know of a better tablet I'd get instead.
Mine works fine, but I mostly use it to read comics, so my main concern was the screen - and for an LCD it is amazing. I'd love to upgrade to a tablet with AMOLED display in the future. One thing I have noticed though is that it is strangely sluggish - my Note 4 (having almost the same resolution and older SoC) seems much, much faster. I don't know, maybe WiFi is the reason? But it seems to be doing OK.
The keyboard is quite bad though, I end up using a Logitech bluetooth keyboard instead most of the times.
Dear XDA,
So for deciding on which phone I want to get to replace my note 7, i decided to do a bit of research, here is some background:
So my device history is as followed: Acer Liquid --> Galaxy Nexus --> Galaxy Note 3 --> Galaxy Note 7.
My usage is as followed:
-Used the phone for calling,texting,social media, etc.
-Media consumption using a 1440p screen for youtube, netflix, and some native HDR contant, music using lossless files with poweramp and music streaming with spotify
-Heavy 3D games, emulators, and pokemon Go, etc.
-Using hpc applications, loading compute payloads using otg, gnuroot to run workstation applications (programming, scripts, sensor data, machine vision, etc.); Use for on the go work but mostly a side/independant work
-Using drafting application on native andriod and linux (part of the previous point)
-Used fingerprint and iris scanner, SD card encryption, phone encryption during start up, secure folder, etc.
-Used all samsung features
-Listen to music using a 3.5mm jack at home and bt headphones on the go/gym
-Taking pictures, videos, using slow mo (editing them to)
-etc.
So, to summarize : I love media consumption and media capture with the phone, I use every feature my Note 7 has and I would love to use newer features to. Battery life should be well and I love expandable storage. I use my phone for emulators, Pokemon Go, other high graphic (for a phone that is) game, spotify, data storage and transfer (for my work files and such), and I do use some "High Performance" application on the phone such as Autocad, Matlab , gnuroot Debian and other analysis software and even computing by uploading payloads via usb otg (as a hobby and sometimes to complete work on the go). I also love using root access (but if I can get most root features without rooting the phone it be great). With all that, I also use the phone like any other person such as for social media, phone calls (omg I know ), test messaging etc.
For the future: I would use Android wear/samsung gear s3, wireless charging, etc.
So currently on my note 7 I am getting a sot of 5h and 54 min (so ~6hrs on my nerfed battery, this was at 3% left) Link: https://imgur.com/gallery/bfYCO
And my Antutu score is 141851 Link: http://imgur.com/wMPXRAK
So my questions for you Pixel XL owners (and for people that went to pixel xl from the N7): How is the SOT? Can I get 6 hours easily with heavy use? How is standby time? How is its raw performance for my special use case? Hows benchmarks (i did try to run antutu on a retail model at got about 139000)? Also is the usb-c a 3.0 or 2.0? Transfer speed and communication via usb matter for faster otg workloads so thats why I asked, i believe my note 3 was a 3.0 and the note 7 was a 3.0? how is the camera really? How are low light shots compared to N7? Also is Display Port over type-c possible on the pixel xl?
Bumpidy bump bump?
Ps. Does the pixel lack usb host? I use that :/
usb host - yes
usb 3.0 - yes
SOT - should be no problem coming from the note, battery life on the XL at least is fantastic
Camera - I like the pixel camera every bit as much as the one on the note, probably more. Low light is fine once you get the hang of it. Any sort of case does cause issue with refractions from the flash, if you have flash on.
I can't give you hard numbers but without a doubt this is the best SOT I've ever had. Coupled with the fastest charging I've ever seen I don't think there is a better battery life phone at this performance level out there.
Def does better than the Note 7 so if that worked for you, don't hesitate.
Display over c is not yet confirmed but i doubt it. They may lean on chromecast wireless. I dont know how you are power using a samsung device because you have no root! This phone is a must for power users. Not to mention there are hardly any manufactures allowing for an unlockable bootloader, with the google lineup being the last of them at this point not looking at some phones international models.
Not to mention I have yet to see a phone match the camera quality of the lg (g4,g5,v10,v20) lineup, the manual shooting on those phones are GODLIKE. So if you havent maybe give the v20 a look but again its bootloader is going to be locked
juliend said:
usb host - yes
usb 3.0 - yes
SOT - should be no problem coming from the note, battery life on the XL at least is fantastic
Camera - I like the pixel camera every bit as much as the one on the note, probably more. Low light is fine once you get the hang of it. Any sort of case does cause issue with refractions from the flash, if you have flash on.
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Okay!! Most sites say the pixel lacks usb host mode (different from otg). Also so the whole halo effect is due to flash?
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I can't give you hard numbers but without a doubt this is the best SOT I've ever had. Coupled with the fastest charging I've ever seen I don't think there is a better battery life phone at this performance level out there.
Def does better than the Note 7 so if that worked for you, don't hesitate.
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Nice, I was worried because of lower capacity.
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Display over c is not yet confirmed but i doubt it. They may lean on chromecast wireless. I dont know how you are power using a samsung device because you have no root! This phone is a must for power users. Not to mention there are hardly any manufactures allowing for an unlockable bootloader, with the google lineup being the last of them at this point not looking at some phones international models.
Not to mention I have yet to see a phone match the camera quality of the lg (g4,g5,v10,v20) lineup, the manual shooting on those phones are GODLIKE. So if you havent maybe give the v20 a look but again its bootloader is going to be locked
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I did look at the V20, the non amoled coupled with lense cracking and it falling behind in speed test really disappointed me. Oh and the v20 lacks usb host to, I use usb host for usb devices such as external sensors and for usb amps. Also I usually root after my warranty is done, and most of my apps dont require root, even for gnuroot (despite its name )
I stand corrected, seems the pixel does have usb host mode, please ignore that.
So I am actually considering the pixel over the s7 edge. Guys anything I should keep in mind or expect? My pure android (i.e. Google) experience are from my galaxy nexus and nexus .
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So I am actually considering the pixel over the s7 edge. Guys anything I should keep in mind or expect? My pure android (i.e. Google) experience are from my galaxy nexus and nexus .
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I will say that my first days into Android I loved the HTC skins, and always hated pure vanilla android. Always ran roms that were based off stock skins vs vanilla Android. That started to change when I got a Samsung S4. As Android progressed I found manufacturers custom stuff was more gimmicks than actually useful. Nexus device and now pixel XL I won't do anything except android straight from Google. You will appreciate it. And I'm really digging Google Assistant. Battery life is good, radio is far better than the nexus or the S7(my wife has an s7). If your are looking at the S7 edge than definitely going with the Pixel XL for comparison.
Can't give you numbers. Sorry. My device history is close, but I started with an EVO. I've had two note 7's and a 7Edge in the last 5 weeks. Now the pixel Xl. I love it!!! I rooted, years ago, for battery life primarily, and this phones battery life smokes them all.
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The only thing I couldn't deal with that I thought I could, coming from the Note 7 to Pixel XL was the rear fingerprint reader. I don't keep my phone in my hand or pocket much. It's usually sitting on my desk being used as a music streaming device, so I need to get to the screen many times a day to check notifications, change songs, etc.... I am connected to our corporate email server which forces a security policy that forces lockscreen settings and such that I can't change. Having to enter a 5 digit code to unlock the device many times a day got really old after a week.... or having to pick the darn thing up over and over just to flip it over to use the print scanner and back over to use it.... There's no way I can deal with that for 2 years so I returned it and am currently ordering the S7 Edge. It will hold me over until the Note 8.
Everything else about the Pixel XL was fantastic. I gave it a week, I loved it at first, day after day that dang fingerprint scanner annoyed me.... it got to where I was using one hand to tilt it over at a 45 degree angle and sticking my finger under it to unlock it.... and then lay it back down. Completely ridiculous that this, or a 5 digit unlock code, or picking it up are my only options. With my Note 7 I could simply press the home button with my finger and it read it at the same time. Boom. Unlocked and ready to use without even looking at it.... that one simple functional detail made all the difference for me.
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I will say that my first days into Android I loved the HTC skins, and always hated pure vanilla android. Always ran roms that were based off stock skins vs vanilla Android. That started to change when I got a Samsung S4. As Android progressed I found manufacturers custom stuff was more gimmicks than actually useful. Nexus device and now pixel XL I won't do anything except android straight from Google. You will appreciate it. And I'm really digging Google Assistant. Battery life is good, radio is far better than the nexus or the S7(my wife has an s7). If your are looking at the S7 edge than definitely going with the Pixel XL for comparison.
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Well between your wife S7 and the pixel, what differences are standing out in terms of software features? I mean touchwiz isnt bad but, enh.
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Can't give you numbers. Sorry. My device history is close, but I started with an EVO. I've had two note 7's and a 7Edge in the last 5 weeks. Now the pixel Xl. I love it!!! I rooted, years ago, for battery life primarily, and this phones battery life smokes them all.
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Well between the N7/S7E and the pixel, what things have improved? Whats your use case? Is it similar to mine? Its a plus to be able to root but I usually root at the end of the product cycle, most of my apps play nice with Android and don't need root while still supplying performance.
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The only thing I couldn't deal with that I thought I could, coming from the Note 7 to Pixel XL was the rear fingerprint reader. I don't keep my phone in my hand or pocket much. It's usually sitting on my desk being used as a music streaming device, so I need to get to the screen many times a day to check notifications, change songs, etc.... I am connected to our corporate email server which forces a security policy that forces lockscreen settings and such that I can't change. Having to enter a 5 digit code to unlock the device many times a day got really old after a week.... or having to pick the darn thing up over and over just to flip it over to use the print scanner and back over to use it.... There's no way I can deal with that for 2 years so I returned it and am currently ordering the S7 Edge. It will hold me over until the Note 8.
Everything else about the Pixel XL was fantastic. I gave it a week, I loved it at first, day after day that dang fingerprint scanner annoyed me.... it got to where I was using one hand to tilt it over at a 45 degree angle and sticking my finger under it to unlock it.... and then lay it back down. Completely ridiculous that this, or a 5 digit unlock code, or picking it up are my only options. With my Note 7 I could simply press the home button with my finger and it read it at the same time. Boom. Unlocked and ready to use without even looking at it.... that one simple functional detail made all the difference for me.
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Between the Pixel XL and the S7 edge baring the finger print scanner location, hows performance?
Also I have two more questions for anyone:
-Does the pixel work with ps3/ps4/xbox one controllers via otg? (I wanna use it for emulators on the go)?
-Is the SD 821 performing at peak frequency or does the phone thermal throttle hard like samsung phones? (All my samsungs ran warm to hot, i just expect this from the samsung phones I have used, including my galaxy nexus)
EternalSeekerX said:
So currently on my note 7 I am getting a sot of 5h and 54 min (so ~6hrs on my nerfed battery, this was at 3% left) Link: https://imgur.com/gallery/bfYCO
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Sorry, but i have a question for you. You said "nerfed battery" on your Note 7. Not quite understanding what you mean by "nerfed battery". Like a downgraded battery? Sorry, noob question i'm sure.
Zeroflucks said:
Sorry, but i have a question for you. You said "nerfed battery" on your Note 7. Not quite understanding what you mean by "nerfed battery". Like a downgraded battery? Sorry, noob question i'm sure.
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Nerfed meaning after samsung pushed the 60% battery capacity.
Sorry for the confusion!
Well between the N7/S7E and the pixel, what things have improved? Whats your use case? Is it similar to mine? Its a plus to be able to root but I usually root at the end of the product cycle, most of my apps play nice with Android and don't need root while still supplying performance. <br />
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Actually I haven't rooted it yet and so far so good. Battery life has improved tremendously and I'm not sure I can speak to my usage compared to yours. That's pretty subjective. The fingerprint scanner is is nice. The battery charges Superfast which is nice. With the Note 3 I carried two spare batteries and with this phone I might look for a wall plug once a day and that's generally very late in the day. Sorry I couldn't give you more specifics but I hope this helps. The camera seems to be much faster also and the photos better quality. The assistant works well. If you decide to keep your Note 7 I've got a couple Chargers and cases that I no longer have use for. LOL
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Nerfed meaning after samsung pushed the 60% battery capacity.
Sorry for the confusion!
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My Note 7 still charges to 100%...
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EternalSeekerX said:
Well between your wife S7 and the pixel, what differences are standing out in terms of software features? I mean touchwiz isnt bad but, enh.
Well between the N7/S7E and the pixel, what things have improved? Whats your use case? Is it similar to mine? Its a plus to be able to root but I usually root at the end of the product cycle, most of my apps play nice with Android and don't need root while still supplying performance.
Between the Pixel XL and the S7 edge....
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I don't have the S7 Edge in hand yet so I can't honestly say. But for me the S7 Edge will be good enough for 11 months... the Pixel is a fantastic device other than the rear fingerprint scanner in my opinion.
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My Note 7 still charges to 100%...
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I don't have the S7 Edge in hand yet so I can't honestly say. But for me the S7 Edge will be good enough for 11 months... the Pixel is a fantastic device other than the rear fingerprint scanner in my opinion.
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Is that your original or replaced note 7? Anyway i bought an s7 edge since the Samsung store gave me a 100 dollar off.
Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
Hope that helps...
Cheers...
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Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... [emoji14] Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
Hope that helps...
Cheers...
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Thank you!
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Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone
liam_davenport said:
Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone
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Thanks man!
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Best camera, so awesome that even after selling the phone it keeps haunting me or something.
Best software experience. Phone is not as fast as a OP3T or something but I care about consistent performance and smoothness over burst performance.
Incredible call quality.
Very good battery life too.
The only reason I sold the phone was because of the touch screen issue I had on mine and then two other Pixels I tried too. Probably a hardware issue, or software calibration of the display, whatever it is it was annoying enough for me to not be able to use the phone, especially when I play games which require continuous touching.
Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.
Coming from the 6P and OP3, it's a huge upgrade from the 6P in battery life, build quality, camera and performance, and a moderate upgrade from the OP3. Touch lag is pretty much nonexistent or barely perceptible, software is the best Google has ever released. You'll probably love it.
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Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.
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I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon
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I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon
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Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.
I'm enjoying it a lot.
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Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.
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Yes Im definitely trying to avoid the Verizon version due to the locked bootloader. Love my 6p but I need wifi calling and the pixel is really the only option sadly.
Performance is amazing, no lag, scrolling smoothness is great, apps load quick. My only real criticism is the small SBR. But hey, I knew that before I bought it.
My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.
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My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.
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Yea I had an iPhone 7+ between my 6P and Pixel XL and like you said its so smooth and never lags, I use to be a big **** talker to my friends who used apple and after using it I get why people like it, just wasnt for me. I hated looking at 5000 icons and folders etc. If they ever got an app drawer it would be a different story but until then the OCD in me needs android and Pixel is the smoothest one out there. I too try each phone and I last maybe a week or so before I'm back to my Pixel because the new ones just cant keep up and arent worth $600-800 for how it looks.
Today I have a fight with my self about replacing my XL with S8+ , I was afraid of missing the software flexibility and customization and missing the smoothness and lag free software , so I decided to stay with the XL.
S8+ Have a nice screen , but actually using black profile on the kernel editor give me some sense of S8 screen colors .
Any way I couldn't replace the smoothness in XL with the screen colors in S8.
Anyone here going for the OnePlus 6?
If it supported Verizon...I would no doubt. But, no such luck this time around either.
No! Going to keep my badboy Pixel XL 2!!
Hell no! I've got enough data mining in my life already! ?
Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
NO!
No. OnePlus is an awful company.
No, im not going back to oneplus .
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
Question is why would i?
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Due to no dual sim support, I had to live with samsung. S9+ has better camera, beauty and display though battery life is worse compare to pixel 2 xl even with full hd+ we all know it is due to bloatware services/apps.
Heard rumours that Apple is also considering dual sim versions for next iPhone, hope google do consider dual sim versions.
By the way I did try huawei honor v10 and 20 pro. Unfortunately work profile issues and bad support made me avoid them completely.
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No. OnePlus is an awful company.
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and liars. I got OP5 and returned, because camera was terrible, but they talked about "clearer photos". They lied in performance test.....for me they bad reputation company
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From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
Had 3 devices from OP so far (OPO, OP5 and OP5T) and still use them but not going to get another one anymore. Why? Because Pixel devices is what suits me the best... top hardware with top software.
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Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
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The quoted post above is sponsored by OnePlus, where "Never Settle" is an oxymoron.
You mentioned us P2XL owners having blinders on when nothing could be further from the truth. While we may have unwanted press over non-issues such as blue shifting and color profiles, at least our devices were assembled with the screens pointed in the right direction, unlike the OP5T.
Ignoring the fact that people rarely view their devices at the extreme angles required for the blue shift to be noticeable, the phenomenon is inherent in ALL AMOLED displays. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Of the three the S4, having an early AMOLED screen, has blue shift to a greater degree than either my Nexus 6 or my P2XL.
The only reason blue shift and the color profile were even mentioned is to drive page views. As for the color profile non-issue, I use the original color profile and not the boosted or saturated modes. No problems here, and in fact I enjoy the color accuracy.
OnePlus having a FHD screen is not a problem if you're not used to anything else. But a flagship device has a QHD display, period. What OnePlus has done here is what they have always done: compromise. When they stop, perhaps then we'll take notice.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
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Yes, my comments have no ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...soon_discontinuing_development_i_wont/dyi9wh0
It's not just the camera; everything on the Pixel 2 is way, way more polished than anything that OnePlus (and I on my own) could ever make.
As much as I hate to admit it, my custom ROMs can't touch the stock ROM on the Pixel 2 in terms of polish and performance. Lately I've been doing more scientific performance assessments on Android (for the sake of research with a professor at my university), instead of just using the phone and thinking, "Seems good to me!," and the results I pulled off the Pixel 2 absolutely crush the results I pulled from stock LineageOS 15.1 on the 3T. It is very difficult to get frame drops while playing with the Pixel 2, whereas I instantly recorded frame drops galore on the 3T. This has been a bit of a wakeup call to me in that I need to reevaluate my ideology and follow a more scientific strategy in optimizing Android on a phone (i.e., using the dozens of test suites Google has built for Android). The bugs that bother users the most are the ones that tend to happen a small percentage of the time (like random reboots), and the Pixel 2 has clearly been optimized to the point where most of those rare bugs are nonexistent (e.g., frames are rarely dropped).
When I ran one of Google's UI performance test apps on the Pixel 2 against my LineageOS 14.1 ROM on the 3T, my ROM dropped frames nonstop (according to this tool) while the Pixel 2 dropped zero frames...
Deep down, I'm a kernel developer and that's where I excel. I'd rather stick to what I know (and enjoy) with kernel hacking and leave the pain of polishing userspace to Google's army of engineers.
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You were saying something about oneplus, weren't you?
I owned oneplus phones, I owned Nexus, I own a Pixel2XL. Tell me about daily performance again, please.
I've used the Pixel 6 Pro on and off since November. For the most part, it has been a very good phone, but after using the S22 Ultra for over 2 months now, I realize how much better the P6P could be. The 5G reception, the charging speeds, and overall stability of the Snapdragon S22 Ultra are vastly superior to the Pixel 6 Pro. To be fair, the P6P has a cleaner software experience, better camera in some respects, and better speakers, but the essentials are done better by the S22U. Like many of us, I had hoped that the P6P would have been the Samsung flagship with stock Android, but it's turning out to have similar problems as the Exynos chips, even down to running warm. There are promises for big things in the June or July update, but each update has brought new bugs. I'm considering just selling the P6P and seeing if the Pixel 7 Pro fixes anything.
The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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My girlfriend has the S21 Ultra, I have the P6P, andddd everyime I grab her phone I am surprised at how smooth it is. Every. Time.
I am getting pretty tired of having to borrow my wife's 22 when I need to make a phone call.
I had the s22ultra SD variant, sold it because if the crappy UI and micro stutters I experienced constantly. Regardless of the hardware, what good is it if the software is still in beta production.
A lot of gimmicky features like bixby, knox, etc.
Samsung has potential but they suck.
there is a 300$ difference between these two phones. the s22 ultra BETTER have the better experience.
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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Most reliable radio hardware I've had. Never had service dropped.
I used to have to have Tasker automatically cycle airplane mode whenever service was lost on all my prior phones, which were all Qualcomm flagships.
Paz9 said:
Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
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That's something else too. While picture quality is pretty good, the picture taking experience falls behind.
Hopefully most of the issues addressed can be resolved or mitigated through software updates, I hope, also for my own sake.
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There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
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I agree with the signal reception. I have been working from home past 2 years, so I haven't had as much time to get frustrated, meaning using it while out and about. But this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned and finding out just how horrible it is as I start traveling more. I am just outside metro DC area and have a lot of experience with other phones plus friends and family. Why, just why couldn't they have stuck with a trusted chip? Verizon, fwiw. I will eventually switch to something non Google. Other parts work great, but they call it a smartphone, not a camera connection device.
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I agree with the signal reception...this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned...
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Did a software update solve the S20 problems? I did a quick search but not seeing that exact resolution. If that update in beta right now helps a lot they may save a customer here, but I am not upgrading to a future Pixel if they put a documented problem in this phone and the solution is to upgrade out of the problem.
I have owned both and they are both flawed.
I still have the S22U and ultimately it is IMO the better option. Yes the shutter lag is annoying and OneUI has it’s frustrations too but the flaws on the Pixel are bigger, FPS was a daily frustration (and the ultrasonic FPS on samsung is just better than all optical ones IMO) auto brightness was just dumb and as other have said the radio is weaker.
I am hopeful that lessons will have been learned with the Pixel 7
I have the vanilla S22, same with everyone says, it has micro stutter on the UI frequently, and the usual Samsung not able to capture moving objects. For those reasons, I am moving to Pixel 7 Pro this year.
To be fair, the P6 Pro is in another price league. You compare an Audi A5 to a BMW 7 (significant price difference). That still doesn't excuse, however, the especially weak reception quality and temperature problems (quick overheating under stress) on a P6 Pro. Basic features need to work, full stop. And Pixels struggle with that at times.