Not sure about this post and apologize in advance if its not appropriate for the forum, but i've read thru the forums and was looking for some people's opinion. I just received a new Note 5 (n920a) that i unlocked to use with T-Mobile. Since its new it hasn't been updated so it has the original Android 5.1.1. I'm aware of the tethered root and coming from an Xperia Z2, def not a fan of the bloatware and touchwiz UI. Just have some questions and was wondering what everyones opinion is (i know everyone says its all down to your own personal preference)
- I would like to update to Nougat and if i do would i still be able to tether root or does that require 'downgrading' back down to 5.1.1
- From everyones experience and their knowledge, what steps would you do with a fresh new note 5 that came with the 5.1.1?
chaostheory01 said:
Not sure about this post and apologize in advance if its not appropriate for the forum, but i've read thru the forums and was looking for some people's opinion. I just received a new Note 5 (n920a) that i unlocked to use with T-Mobile. Since its new it hasn't been updated so it has the original Android 5.1.1. I'm aware of the tethered root and coming from an Xperia Z2, def not a fan of the bloatware and touchwiz UI. Just have some questions and was wondering what everyones opinion is (i know everyone says its all down to your own personal preference)
- I would like to update to Nougat and if i do would i still be able to tether root or does that require 'downgrading' back down to 5.1.1
- From everyones experience and their knowledge, what steps would you do with a fresh new note 5 that came with the 5.1.1?
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Once you update to Nougat you CANNOT downgrade back to 5.1.1 if you even want root I'd suggest you not update the phone period in hopes that a full root will come around instead of tether root.. There's no root for Nougat anyway. I would seriously stay where you are so when FULL roots achieved you'll be able to use Chainfire's Flashfire to update to Nougat keeping your root access!
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In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
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In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?
Hey! I'm new to the Note 3 community. I bought it recently after getting fed up with the battery life on my Nexus 5. I bought it from Swappa with stock rooted 4.4.2. I did lots of flashing and modding on my Nexus and I had an old Samsung (DROID Charge) as my first phone so I've used ODIN a little but I haven't done any rooting/ROMing on my Note yet.
I'm excited to put Lollipop on my phone but I love WiFi calling so I've been waiting for the Official update. What is the process like to get me from stock rooted KK to stock rooted Lollipop? Should I wait for a stock rooted ROM to be posted so I can flash it? Or should I unroot then update OTA then reroot? Is it better to do a factory reset? As much detail as possible for a Samsung noob would be very appreciated! Thanks.
Grab a soda, maybe a snack, and have a seat. It can be anywhere from a few hours to a few days...to even a few weeks for someone to gain full root to Lollipop.
Just keep checking back to see when someone has it rooted. In the mean time, enjoy rooted KK and try out some of the ROMs. I'm part of the Tweaked family but some of the other ROMs are very good as well.
Lastly, WELCOME TO THE NOTE 3 COMMUNITY!!
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Hey! I'm new to the Note 3 community. I bought it recently after getting fed up with the battery life on my Nexus 5. I bought it from Swappa with stock rooted 4.4.2. I did lots of flashing and modding on my Nexus and I had an old Samsung (DROID Charge) as my first phone so I've used ODIN a little but I haven't done any rooting/ROMing on my Note yet.
I'm excited to put Lollipop on my phone but I love WiFi calling so I've been waiting for the Official update. What is the process like to get me from stock rooted KK to stock rooted Lollipop? Should I wait for a stock rooted ROM to be posted so I can flash it? Or should I unroot then update OTA then reroot? Is it better to do a factory reset? As much detail as possible for a Samsung noob would be very appreciated! Thanks.
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Lol as the threads of rooted lollipop roms flood the General section
Enjoy and welcome to the community.
Hello everyone:
I am a new (used) Galaxy Note 3 owner. I bought an LG G2 3 weeks or so ago, spent that 3 weeks studying, rooting, installing recovery and finally installing and tweaking Cloudy G2 ROM. Just as I got my G2 running flawlessly it slipped from my shirt pocket as I was grilling, bounced off the grill and landed face down on the car port thus smashing the screen to pieces. :crying: What a waste of time installing that cheap screen protector the previous evening.
Anyway, I found a great deal on a used Note 3 so I went ahead and bought that rather than another G2. So now, I need to update my Note 3 just like I did the G2. Since I am running short on time at the moment I just want to get some ideas on where to start. I do intend to read everything I can on XDA but some helpful tips would really assist me with getting this finished sooner rather than later.
So....Right now the phone has stock 4.4.2 loaded and the knox counter is not tripped.
Baseband version is:N900TUVUCNB4
Security Software Version is:MDF v1.0 Release 2.
I am not at all familiar with this security stuff so any tips here on what exactly this is would be most appreciated.
My goal is:
1. root the device
2. install recovery prefer twrp but cwm will do if necessary
3. install a good ROM (Preferably Lollipop based ROM)
4. I would like to have xPosed Framework support too if possible. Of course this depends on the ROM I presume.
I have heard that Samsung Note 3 is a real bear to root. Also that the Odin software can be dangerous. I have no idea if this is true or not so please help me here.
I was also wondering whether it would be best to root the phone while on KitKat, or upgrade to stock lollipop first and then start the root/recovery process.
I'd really really appreciate all the help I can get from anyone that has owned a note 3 and has already been all through this process.
Thanks...Olin
Oh well, no replies? Man this Samsung device is rather overwhelming what with all the various scenarios. I am thinking of going with temasek's Unofficial CM12.1, or DOMPOP, or maybe Darklord. But I am still completely unsure whether to upgrade to stock Lollipop before I start on the root/recovery/ROM project. I also need to read everything I can find on these 3 roms.
But please, if you have any comments on which of these 3 ROMS is the best for the note 3 and/or comments on the best root/recovery method then by all means point me in the right direction.
Thanks so much for any help at all.
people just aren't as helpful around here as they used to be. Either that or not many use the note 3 anymore. But nevermind I figured it out anyway as I knew I eventually would.
Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading
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Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading
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Hey Beegbear:
I have decided to stay with KitKat for now because of the fact you can't use the xPosed framework on Lollipop and the fact KitKat is just a more stable platform and has many more Roms available. I used this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765014
to get my Note 3 on the newest stock KitKat rom, then root it, then install the latest TWRP recovery. I carefully followed the exact steps in this guide except that I did use a newer TWRP recovery I downloaded from: https://dl.twrp.me/hltetmo/twrp-2.8.7.0-hltetmo-4.4.img.tar
Other than using this newer TWRP I went step by step through this guide. I still plan on installing a custom KitKat rom but right now I am researching various roms to try and decide which one. But at least I have latest stock, root, and a good recovery right now.
I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.
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I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.
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Thanks a lot. You caught me just before I was about to install Hyperdrive N3 RLS7.1. I'd like to ask you what you think of this ROM?
And as for tweaked, I have come across two possible versions of a "tweaked" ROM. Tweaked ROM [Material L Theme] and TweakedN3 v3.x. Are these actually the same ROM? I'm looking around but still am not sure on this.
Thanks for your reply.
Olin
Well I "think" I have it figured out and I am in fact going to go with the Tweaked ROM, basic install procedure. Thanks so much for your advice ytj87 - I would have installed that other ROM if I had not seen your post. I may do that down the road anyway but I intend to give Tweaked a thorough test before I do. It looks great and based on forum info it seems less buggy than most of the other roms I researched.
Olin
Will probably come down to the experience you want. Tweaked is more stock with an emphasis on stability. I haven't used Hyperdrive, but when you see a ROM like that which integrates something other than the Note 3 TW UI, you're more likely to see glitches. It's the same NF9 base, though, and it has been around a while, and it looks interesting, so at some point give it a shot if curious. I personally prefer the Note 3 original UI to the S5's, so I probably won't try it.
TweakedN3 3.95. The LP themed one I haven't used.
I got this SM-P600 last year for my birthday, I shortly rooted it then installed a ROM and went on my merry way.
There have always been a couple nagging issues with the rom, infrequent random restarting and blanking out my lockscreen and homescreen wallpapers.
Its on the ND2 bootloader but the "fingerprint" says NH3 release-keys, so NH3 firmware I assume.
It is rooted, twrp 2.5 or 2.6 I think.
I just want to get the firmware updated and install a stable rom on it since the restarting and wiping away wallpaper is really getting on my nerves lately.
I have been out of the tweaking and modding environment for almost a year now and I don't know where to pick up again.
So I am looking for advice and opinions.
I need to find a firmware only page, or a way to update the firmware easily, or am I missing something here?
I'd like to hear about a couple roms people out there are using, why you use it and how long?
I'd like to know if I need to have the bootloader and firmware be the same version and if that might be why I am having issues.
Can anyone point me to the right place?
Hmm, I only root and run stock roms with some minor housekeeping, so cannot help you with your ROM issues. I would imagine though that anybody who could will need to know WHAT ROM you installed.
In the meantime, the best thread I know of for you to gather information is the one at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723420 ... Its an ALL-IN-ONE thread for the Note 10.1 (2014 edition). Please not though that the forum rules stipulate it is only for information sharing, not for questions, so you may want to visit there, catch up as best you can and then come back here with more specific questions...
Is there any reason you don't want to use stock? I ask because based on what you are saying, it doesn't appear that you chose a custom ROM with any particular intentions, but rather because ... well, apparently custom is awesome If you don't need anything particular, you will be much better off just running a rooted stock with some debloating to keep things spiffy. As of now, I believe the P600 is still on 4.4.4, for which root should be available. The LTE versions started receiving 5.1.1 updates last week and while it is quite awesome to run the latest lollipop, no root as of yet.
Cheers,
Karthik
Can someone point me to a rooted stock ROM for lollipop or better yet marshmallow for the Note 4 with the retail to Dev conversion? I did have the retail converted it to dev using dr.cool's very well written post.now I have some emotion nightly ROM. My dream is to have a fully functional rooted marshmallow ROM. If such thing exists and can be flashed via Odin,adb, Twrp or any other method with the tutorial for dummies please point me to that ROM for download. Thank you in advance. By the way this is the smn910v Qualcomm processor. Alternatively I would like to get the ROM for lollipop 5.1.1 that is rooted or either or of them they can't be read it on the day of or either or of them if they can be rooted on this now DE ed phone that previously was a Verizon retail. I have looked at Chainfire Auto roots and somehow they do not seem to be sufficient in size to be a complete OS. I'm sure my naivety disallowed me to understand the process completely but every time I've tried to use the CF auto root I seem to come up short of enough components for a full operating system. I do not know where to get the CF root ROMs that I have heard spoken of but I have seen the CF auto root and yet that's far I have not been able to use any of those effectively. So to be clear if anyone can help me to understand and learn where are not it is possible to get a stock ROM and lollipop 5-1 1 or marshmallow 6x and either rooted or find a pre rooted stock ROM with either of these to get a stock wrong and lollipop 511 or marshmallow sick six and either route it or find a prayer it stock ROM with either these biulds, I would be grateful for the knowledge. I know the concept here is to search and read but quite honestly my low IQ and poor reading comprehension skills disallows need to find any valuable help in my quest. So I reach out and asking one that would 2 please teach me and/or point me in the right direction.
Thank you in advance for your kind anticipated responses.
Charlie