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Hello, I just wanted to ask a simple question.
I'm debating between buying a 16GB model or a 32GB model, the European version, that is.
Since the difference is not only in storage, but also in available memory (2GB/16GB vs 3GB/32GB) I wanted to know if there was any noticeable difference in performance between those two, something that should make me think of getting the more powerful version.
Aside from that, a minor question that I probably have answered already: do both versions come with QI wireless charging onboard? Or it's just a 32gb feature? As far as I know, they both come with that feature built-in, but I just want to make sure.
Thanks for all the future replies.
I can not inform you about the performance differences between the 16 aand 32GB versions.
Owning a 16GB EU (NL) G3, however, I can confirm that at least my EU 16 GB model has a QI interface on board.
No complaints on performace here btw...
If a gamer, the biggest issue is when L hits, ART requires 25% more storage and 1gb more free than Dalvik. That is a huge storage hit and functionally turns the 16gb into a 12gb model.
When L releases, 16gb devices are near futile for anybody that plays games on their device beyond card type games.
rushless said:
If a gamer, the biggest issue is when L hits, ART requires 25% more storage and 1gb more free than Dalvik. That is a huge storage hit and functionally turns the 16gb into a 12gb model.
When L releases, 16gb devices are near futile for anybody that plays games on their device beyond card type games.
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I seriously wouldn't recommended this phone for games. You are better of with something like the One plus one.
But back OT this question has been asked a number of times. Just do a search.
I've had a 1st gen Moto G for a while and I have up to ~£250 to spend. I was settled on a OPO or an LG G3 (16GB/2GB RAM) since they're both around £240 now. After a bit more reading I think I'd prefer a Zenfone 2, but I'm not sure which models I should go for, or which I can use in the UK.
I usually just buy from Amazon but have noticed a lot of sites I've never seen before offering various models at much cheaper prices, like eglobal central. The confusion comes with the model variants and which is best. I want to make sure I get a model with a 1080p screen, which appears to be the ZE551ML. There appears to be a few different models with sometimes not-so-clear specs. There is this one, but it states a 1.8GHz CPU, which indicates that it's the 2GB RAM model, but states that it's 4GB. Also, this one, that states the same, i.e 1.8GHz with 4GB RAM.
Is there a model with 2.3GHz/4GB RAM with only 16/32GB storage? Is there such a model with 1.8GHz/4GB RAM, or are these sites citing wrong specs? Is it worth the extra money to go for the 2.3GHz model over the 1.8, or 4GB RAM over 2GB? Where is the best place to buy from since the Amazon sellers seem to be charging £70-80 more for the same models as those other smaller sites?
I'm not worried about the storage since 16/32GB is plenty, and the phone allows for a memory card. I'm not really a phone gamer, so I'm not hugely worried about GFX performance. Not really worried about the camera either since I only rarely take pics and almost never video. I just want a 5.5 inch screen with decent specs and the Zenfone seems to offer the best price/spec ratio for me. Provided I can root the phone then I'm happy enough. I can get to custom ROMs later.
Cheers.
FWIW, the one I got has the 1.8 GHz CPU, 4 GB of RAM and 32 GB of storage. So such a variant definitely does exist. It's the WW (international) version, and came with a UK type plug on the charger.
I have just received the 1.8gh variant with 4g of ram and 32gb storage I bought mine from eglobal for £181 delivery was 3days.
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buge boyo said:
I have just received the 1.8gh variant with 4g of ram and 32gb storage I bought mine from eglobal for £181 delivery was 3days.
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I just ordered the same model (silver) from the same place about 5 minutes ago. For the size/spec it's a steal at that price.
It should be in your hands by Thursday.
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You should've got the 4Gb/64Gb model. It uses the Z3580 CPU at 2.3Ghz instead of the Z3560 at 1.8Ghz.
Slightly faster but around 7000 points difference on Antutu (if you are interested in that)...
It also comes with the speedy charger which the 1.8Ghz version doesn't...
They both come with the same speed charger the only difference is in the CPU clock speed and storage amount. Besides with custom kernels you can increase the clock speed.
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buge boyo said:
They both come with the same speed charger the only difference is in the CPU clock speed and storage amount. Besides with custom kernels you can increase the clock speed.
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Well nope, the lower-clocked version is delivered with a plain charger, and only the 2.4 GHz version comes with a Quick Charge one. At least that's the case for the vendors I checked.
And I wouldn't hold my breath for custom kernels, there are none at present.
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Well nope, the lower-clocked version is delivered with a plain charger, and only the 2.4 GHz version comes with a Quick Charge one. At least that's the case for the vendors I checked.
And I wouldn't hold my breath for custom kernels, there are none at present.
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From some of the video reviews I've seen, they state that the 1.8GHz model (regardless of RAM/storage and including the ZE550ML) all lack the quick-charge charger.
I just received mine. Holy ****, it's pretty fast.
It's this one:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing...vo-256gb-memory-card-w-adapter-mb-mc256da-am/
95/90 MBps read/write speed.
Is that what you guys got?
Did you benchmark it? I have a Lexar Class 10 128GB card I paid $39 for. It's listed for 95mbps when I benchmarked it I got 56 read & 18 write.
For the cost compared to what Samsung says the 256gb card is work, the $39 card any my Fit Gear 2 work fine.
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Did you benchmark it? I have a Lexar Class 10 128GB card I paid $39 for. It's listed for 95mbps when I benchmarked it I got 56 read & 18 write.
For the cost compared to what Samsung says the 256gb card is work, the $39 card any my Fit Gear 2 work fine.
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Here are the benchmarks:
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_evo_plus_256gb_microsd_memory_card_review
How do they compare to your Lexar?
P.S. I haven't opened the packaging yet. It looks so pretty inside the pretty packaging. And I'm still thinking about what I'm gonna fill it with. I only have 112GB of favorite movie collection and a few gigs of music - don't know what to put on it.
I bet the benchmark varies by phone. Open it and check it out. I used A1 SD Bench to check it.
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I bet the benchmark varies by phone. Open it and check it out. I used A1 SD Bench to check it.
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Stop shifting the blame here!
nabbed said:
I just received mine. Holy ****, it's pretty fast.
It's this one:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing...vo-256gb-memory-card-w-adapter-mb-mc256da-am/
95/90 MBps read/write speed.
Is that what you guys got?
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Oh god those cards are slow as hell...i love the storage capacity but awful speeds...write in particular.
I use this one, WAY faster.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...800r_128gb_professional_uhs_ii_microsdxc.html
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force70 said:
Oh god those cards are slow as hell...i love the storage capacity but awful speeds...write in particular.
I use this one, WAY faster.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...800r_128gb_professional_uhs_ii_microsdxc.html
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I just put 120GB on mine over usb 2.0 - 1 hour or so. Write speed was 30MBps. How fast is yours?
force70 said:
Oh god those cards are slow as hell...i love the storage capacity but awful speeds...write in particular.
I use this one, WAY faster.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...800r_128gb_professional_uhs_ii_microsdxc.html
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Wicked! That's kills my slow ass Sandisk. Just ordered one off Amazon. Thanks for the heads up!
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I just put 120GB on mine over usb 2.0 - 1 hour or so. Write speed was 30MBps. How fast is yours?
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In my laptop 100, in my note 7 around 80
30 is terrible.
Your read speeds probably wouldn't even match my write speeds with this lexar card.
As i said love the storage capacity hate the slow speeds.
Cant wait until we can get a 256gb version with better write speeds
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I just put 120GB on mine over usb 2.0 - 1 hour or so. Write speed was 30MBps. How fast is yours?
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I read somewhere its the fastest microsd for its size in the world and supposedly its the little brother to the new micro cards being made by samsung
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3092...orage-cards-could-replace-micro-sd-media.html
There was a rumor that the sd card readers in the note 7 were supposed to be compatible with these but that it didnt make the final schematics.
BTW I love your dont tread on me pic, its hillarious and awesome.
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In my laptop 100, in my note 7 around 80
30 is terrible.
Your read speeds probably wouldn't even match my write speeds with this lexar card.
As i said love the storage capacity hate the slow speeds.
Cant wait until we can get a 256gb version with better write speeds
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Just benched it in my Note7. 73 read, 63 write. That's with the same Lexar you have.
Didn't think it would work Because it was for a s7 promotion on the link ; but i input all my info and everything checked out with my note 7 purchase
It asked if i wanted a 256 micro sd card or a gear VR..
I opted for the gear vr of course (yes , i know the micro sd cost more) I asked my self do i really need over 300 GB of space ? I said na , Il opt for a gear VR .. i have the first model for my s6 and it was amazing minus the pix quality but the whole 360 vr experience is something to experience..
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Didn't think it would work Because it was for a s7 promotion on the link ; but i input all my info and everything checked out with my note 7 purchase
It asked if i wanted a 256 micro sd card or a gear VR..
I opted for the gear vr of course (yes , i know the micro sd cost more) I asked my self do i really need over 300 GB of space ? I said na , Il opt for a gear VR .. i have the first model for my s6 and it was amazing minus the pix quality but the whole 360 vr experience is something to experience..
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With the Gear VR, i realized I do need 300gb of space on my phone
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Just benched it in my Note7. 73 read, 63 write. That's with the same Lexar you have.
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It will vary a bit from test to test but thats not too far off what i see though.
Thats more than double the write speed of 99% of the cards out there though.
Too bad the note couldnt match the speeds in my laptop lol...read mid 200's, write at 100 or so lol
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It will vary a bit from test to test but thats not too far off what i see though.
Thats more than double the write speed of 99% of the cards out there though.
Too bad the note couldnt match the speeds in my laptop lol...read mid 200's, write at 100 or so lol
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It's better than the 15 write I had with my previous Sandisk. I'll take it, lol.
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With the Gear VR, i realized I do need 300gb of space on my phone
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Good point.. that's why i opted for a 64gb samsung evo plus for $20 via Amazon which boosted my space from 64-128 GB
Can i ask you put on your gear vr storage ?
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Good point.. that's why i opted for a 64gb samsung evo plus for $20 via Amazon which boosted my space from 64-128 GB
Can i ask you put on your gear vr storage ?
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I made a folder in sd named Milkvr folder and i have all my videos there
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I made a folder in sd named Milkvr folder and i have all my videos there
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What type of vr videos do you save
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What type of vr videos do you save
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from the oculus home, or you can find some from oculus rift videos online thats compatible. I download everything because streaming sucks
For my recalled Note 7 purchased August 19, I opted for the 256 Micro SD card. Then when I returned My Note7 and purchased the "New Note 7 with out the battery issues I opted for the Gear VR. So Now will have the Gear VR with the Storage space to save Games and Video. I also have 2 of every accessories that the phone came with becase all they wanted was the phone, so I was able to keep the original accesories and the new accessories that came with the new phone. I also kept the s-Pen so I have a back for that! All in all, for all the headaches with the recall, I think I came out O'tay!
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Does anyone know the difference with performance on something with 6GB vs 8GB? Negligible you think?
I remember a side by side of the S8+ with 4GB vs 6GB.
I guess really for double the storage & an extra 2GB of RAM for $60 more, it's almost a no brainer.
However, i'm just trying to get an idea from those of you who know more about RAM in phones than I do to chime in.
I'm also guessing it's normal to bump the RAM every time you bump the storage. At least I am starting to see that in some newer phones, (don't see a 128GB 5T with 6GB) but not all. You don't see the Pixels like that (and still with 4GB).
Seems to be RAM is all over the place & I always thought cost was the factor, but if OP can do 6GB & 8GB it doesn't appear to be that.
well, in my opinion, 6GB of RAM is more than enough for the average user. but if you're really really looking for performance, pick the 8GB version, obviously.
why they even have a model with 6gb/64gb.
I've seen a few comparisons of both version of the OnePlus 5. The device with 8GB of RAM was able to keep many more apps in memory (obviously). This led to much fewer app redraws.
I chose the 8GB option, because I want this phone to last me 2 years, and I am thinking about what may be needed for Android P and Android Q updates/ROMs in the future
The 8GB is for "power" users who cycle through a lot of apps
128 GB is for people who have a lot of apps and record a lot of video/need to store a lot of data
This is what the head of OnePlus marketing said in an interview. I don't think the 8GB is meant for future-proofing the phone
As explained in the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4_zhRWHwk4
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The 8GB is for "power" users who cycle through a lot of apps
128 GB is for people who have a lot of apps and record a lot of video/need to store a lot of data
This is what the head of OnePlus marketing said in an interview. I don't think the 8GB is meant for future-proofing the phone
As explained in the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4_zhRWHwk4
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I did see that interview. I know the intention is for power users, but it is my personal view that 8GBs will serve me better in the future, than 6GB.
I intend to use the phone for 2 years at least, and so if official updates stop after a year and a bit, I have the option to install a custom rom.
i'll go for the 64GB one, i currenlty have the OPO sandstone 64gb, and never handled to fill it. Also i dont really feel like 8gb ram are usefull atm...
8GB for me.
It's really 64gb vs 128 gb. 6 gb of ram is plenty. 8gb is for bragging rights only.
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It's really 64gb vs 128 gb. 6 gb of ram is plenty. 8gb is for bragging rights only.
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When the two were tested (side-by-side OnePlus 5), the 8GB model, naturally was able to keep many more apps in memory. Don't know if I would consider that bragging rights, but I would consider it better.
8GB is a gimmick, but hey, if you want it, the option is there lol.
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When the two were tested (side-by-side OnePlus 5), the 8GB model, naturally was able to keep many more apps in memory. Don't know if I would consider that bragging rights, but I would consider it better.
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Of course it's better. But is it that much better? I don't think so. I think the storage difference is more of a difference than the ram.
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barondebxl said:
Of course it's better. But is it that much better? I don't think so. I think the storage difference is more of a difference than the ram.
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I ordered the 8GB 128. Figured the storage was worth the $60 & the 2GB extra RAM was a bonus. Don't know if there will be any noticeable differences, but I don't care that much.
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quickstang said:
I ordered the 8GB 128. Figured the storage was worth the $60 & the 2GB extra RAM was a bonus. Don't know if there will be any noticeable differences, but I don't care that much.
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Totally agree. For $60 you get double the storage and 2 gb of extra ram, why not. I just think those of us who go 6GB of ram will be just fine.
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I chose the 8GB option, because I want this phone to last me 2 years, and I am thinking about what may be needed for Android P and Android Q updates/ROMs in the future
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I feel the same way..can't wait til it gets here, ordered first thing this morning!
8gb for bragging right
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8gb for bragging right
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I rather brag about the pricing of the 5T =P
I went with the 8GB/128GB model because the 4GB/64GB of the S8+ Dual Sim was a deal breaker for me. I currently have 2 Samsung S6's with 64GB storage. I needed all that space to hold all the data imported from the 2 phones and have the dual sim functionality. If the S8+ DS had a 128GB variant, I would've considered purchasing that instead.
If like myself you have several play lists, root, rom, keep nandroids and titanium backups, and video its 128GB.
I have a Mate 10 with 6GB ram. I find it to be quite responsive. I had 12 aps in recents and still have about 3 GB ram free. So where would folks see improvement in performance on a Mate 20 X with 8 GB ramq. With gaming (which I don't do much of)? Does the camera's AI take up a lot of memory? Is more memory taken up by OS on Mate 20 X so there is less free space? Appreciate people's thought on this before I decide on which Mate 20 X to pick. Thanks!
My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.
There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs
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My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.
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WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs
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Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.
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Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.
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Exactly given the current pricing of those cards. Makes sense to get more RAM and storage.
Pretty sure 6gb, 8gb, and 10gb are mostly gimmicks to sell the phone. As new android versions come out, things get more efficient not more bloated generally. Its too bad manufacturers didn't put the money into more storage.
The primary reason for the memory isnt for everyday use. The extra memory is for game play. On a everyday usage its not going to make any difference unless you keep every app open and dont close anything. But the primary reason for the 6GB or 8GB is primarily for games so there is less hiccups during play. Because as games get more sophisticated they use more memory.
how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?
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how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?
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Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.
The 6gb or 8gb of ram makes no difference.
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Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.
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ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?
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ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?
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You can, you have to turn the off back off, its the same thing as an iPhone, as soon as aniPhone has 5% battery it turns itself on, same thing, if you want it to remain off then you either have to plug it in while the phone is on and then turn it off, or if already off and you plug it in and it turns on, then you will have to turn it off. I know its annoying but thats how it is.