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Ok, so I got my new EVO last week. I haven't updated to the new 2.2 (Froyo) yet, though I keep getting the popup saying I should do it. I'll get around to it eventually .. lol. Anyway, my question is ... my battery seems to drain rather quickly throughout the day. I'm not necessarily doing anything spectacular, I have gmail and an exchange (outlook) mail account that are synching .. oh, and the weather widget and bluetooth is always on. I do check my facebook account every once in a while but don't keep it running all the time (at least I don't think it is ... I didn't add the widget, rather just the app to my home screen). I am not putzing with my phone all the time but here it is, almost 2:30 and my battery is at 47% since unplugging it from the charger at 6am. Will updating to 2.2 help with my battery issue? How can I see what is draining my battery?
Yea I'm having the same problem ... IDK I got task killer but its not helping
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g00fette said:
Ok, so I got my new EVO last week. I haven't updated to the new 2.2 (Froyo) yet, though I keep getting the popup saying I should do it. I'll get around to it eventually .. lol. Anyway, my question is ... my battery seems to drain rather quickly throughout the day. I'm not necessarily doing anything spectacular, I have gmail and an exchange (outlook) mail account that are synching .. oh, and the weather widget and bluetooth is always on. I do check my facebook account every once in a while but don't keep it running all the time (at least I don't think it is ... I didn't add the widget, rather just the app to my home screen). I am not putzing with my phone all the time but here it is, almost 2:30 and my battery is at 47% since unplugging it from the charger at 6am. Will updating to 2.2 help with my battery issue? How can I see what is draining my battery?
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to check your battery there are apps in the market for that... you can also go to menu --- settings-- about phone---battery---battery use. Also try these tips from this website it has worked wonders for me on my stock rooted Evo http://www.techhackz.com/2010/06/how-to-increase-your-htc-evo-4g-battery.html
You're not doing terrible compared to most users, although I'll bet Bluetooth is taking a significant amount of juice. Froyo isn't a magical battery saver, though it is supposedly more efficient. You may be better of rooting and getting an undervolted ROM in combination with some conservative "Screen off" SetCPU profiles.
Three things: First, you can turn off the OTA notification by going into your settings menu - Software Update and turning off the scheduled check. You'll still be able to check manually whenever you want. Second, turning off "always on mobile data" will save a good amount of battery, but you'll lose Gmail push and some other minor things. Third, think long and hard before you accept that 2.2 OTA update. It can't be rooted yet, you can't go back to 2.1, and we still don't know if/when a root method will be found. If you want Froyo and there's a 0.001% chance you might want to root sometime in the future, you're better off rooting NOW and flashing a ROOTED stock OTA update from the Development section.
Just my thoughts.
Ok, so I downloaded System Panel (the free version for now) from the Market and was able to identify some things that were running that I thought were closed. Not sure what, if any, impact that will have ... time will tell. Here's my next question. After going to Settings/Applications/Running services I'm trying to figure out what some of these things are to determine if I need them running:
Mail - MailService (I'm guessing this is my Gmail?)
Mail - EASDirectpush (I'm guessing this is my Exchange (Outlook)?)
Calendar - ObexService (ummm ... is this my synch'd calendar from Outlook?)
Calendar - ConnectivityService (no idea what this is?)
Touch Input - Touch Input (is it as self explanatory as it sounds?)
HTC DM - HtcDmService (no idea what this is?)
HTC IQAgent - AgentService (no idea what this is?)
com.smithmicro.dm - DMServiceApp (no idea what this is?)
g00fette said:
Ok, so I downloaded System Panel (the free version for now) from the Market and was able to identify some things that were running that I thought were closed. Not sure what, if any, impact that will have ... time will tell. Here's my next question. After going to Settings/Applications/Running services I'm trying to figure out what some of these things are to determine if I need them running:
Mail - MailService (I'm guessing this is my Gmail?)
Mail - EASDirectpush (I'm guessing this is my Exchange (Outlook)?)
Calendar - ObexService (ummm ... is this my synch'd calendar from Outlook?)
Calendar - ConnectivityService (no idea what this is?)
Touch Input - Touch Input (is it as self explanatory as it sounds?)
HTC DM - HtcDmService (no idea what this is?)
HTC IQAgent - AgentService (no idea what this is?)
com.smithmicro.dm - DMServiceApp (no idea what this is?)
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Thats not the functionality you want out of systempanel - what you're refferring to here is essentially using it as a task killer, which you shouldn't be using. Those items will just keep restarting - it's more efficient to just leave them in the background where they're not using cpu or battery.
The main functionality of systempanel lies only in the bought version, I'm afraid. What it does is allow you to set it up to monitor your phone - so you can go back to it a day later and see how your battery, cpu, and device usage were affected over a period of time.
Honestly though, for non-rooted, you're not doing too bad on battery. If you want better, you're probably going to want to root, which will allow you to use custom ROMs and kernels that allow overclocking and underclocking. And also allow you to remove bloatware.
Regardless if your rooted or not, make sure you go into all of the stock apps, like talk, stocks, news, etc, and set them up to never login and never sync. Then install the network app from the market and make sure that you're set to cdma auto prl. this should help.
And note what SilverZero mentioned - CURRENTLY THERE IS NO WAY TO ROOT AFTER THE 2.2 OTA UPGRADE. This really can't be stressed enough. So if you do decide to go through with the OTA, your options will be very limited for any tweaking.
Average apps that run on everyones phone. those apps are running on mine as we speak and I am still getting good battery life. I have been off the charger since 7a.m. and I am at 78% phone calls and text with wifi and 3g running all day. try that link I posted
This may sound like a real stupid noob question but if I root my phone do I have to flash a ROM? Or will the stock ROM (2.1) still be there?
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This may sound like a real stupid noob question but if I root my phone do I have to flash a ROM? Or will the stock ROM (2.1) still be there?
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stock rom will be there - you have the option to flash a rom once rooted, but if you want, you can just stop once rooted - some people root just to be able to run titanium backup.
noob. jk ;-)
Not sure if this is a bug or something, but my Android OS usage is extremely high from 40-50%. Also the Android OS always is downloading something, my wifi icon is always downloading when on wifi, but it doesn't when I'm on a mobile network. Is anybody else having the same issues? Also my auto-sync is only for my Google account which includes Gmail, Calendar, Contacts and Google Music. See the attachments for usage statistics.
Install BetterBatteryStats (there's a free xda version available), do some reading on how to use it, and you'll find your issue easily.
Make sure all bloatware is removing from your phone, that did the trick for me.. I get 22-24 hours of usage.. on 4G of course.
I have the same problem here. Android OS uses most of the battery, whereas display only uses 20-30%, kind of weird
But the phone still gives me power for all day long
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All my bloatware is removed, I got factory unlocked so I don't have the usual carrier stuff. Think I'm going to root and flash the AOSP rom onto my phone.
Its an error in reporting with ICS, it is not actually draining.
Hi everyone, it is the first time I post to this forum and any help will be appreciated.
As you can imagine I am having problems with battery drains and wakelocks on my Samsung Galaxy S4 on T-Mobile. The phone is Rooted. The battery drain started on October 3rd or 4th. Before that everything was working correctly (as far as I know). The battery drain all pointed to Google Services. (At first it was Google Play Services, but now it is just plain Google Services) Up to 35% or more of my battery plus making my phone really hot. Research said it has to do with the location services and google now.
To avoid that battery drain I followed a lot of tips and the only one that kind of helped (if I want to keep google now active or my GPS running) has been: Disabling the network and wireless location option. And removing from my places any one I had saved associated to a specific network or wifi. This reduced and almos eliminated my NLP and NLPCollector wakelocks. But now I have an EntriesRefresh_Wakelock that is keeping my phone awake about 30% of the time (Wakelock Detector). Although this is not consuming as much of my battery as before, this is clearly not the way it should work.
Can anybody explain a bit more what is this EntriesRefresh_Wakelock and how it can be eliminated? I appreciate your help.
Thanks,
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Hi everyone, it is the first time I post to this forum and any help will be appreciated.
As you can imagine I am having problems with battery drains and wakelocks on my Samsung Galaxy S4 on T-Mobile. The phone is Rooted. The battery drain started on October 3rd or 4th. Before that everything was working correctly (as far as I know). The battery drain all pointed to Google Services. (At first it was Google Play Services, but now it is just plain Google Services) Up to 35% or more of my battery plus making my phone really hot. Research said it has to do with the location services and google now.
To avoid that battery drain I followed a lot of tips and the only one that kind of helped (if I want to keep google now active or my GPS running) has been: Disabling the network and wireless location option. And removing from my places any one I had saved associated to a specific network or wifi. This reduced and almos eliminated my NLP and NLPCollector wakelocks. But now I have an EntriesRefresh_Wakelock that is keeping my phone awake about 30% of the time (Wakelock Detector). Although this is not consuming as much of my battery as before, this is clearly not the way it should work.
Can anybody explain a bit more what is this EntriesRefresh_Wakelock and how it can be eliminated? I appreciate your help.
Thanks,
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The EntriesRefresh_Wakelock is a google search/now wakelock. You can temporarily fix it by force closing Google now after you use it, and also by stopping auto sync, if you really don't need Google Now to be updated often. Other than that im trying to come up with a real solution myself.
I haven't used my S3 in a while since I got my Nexus 5 but never got around to selling it. I was thinking of giving it to my mom instead, who's never used a smartphone but expressed some interest in getting one.
I had unrooted and flashed a stock Rogers 4.3 in anticipation of selling it.
Last week my Nexus 5 died and while waiting for my replacement I was using the S3 again as a backup. Since I only needed it for a few days I didn't do any rooting or customization and lived with the stock experience.
However, I found there was serious battery drain. Much more than I recall when I was using it prior to 4.3 (which came out around the time I switched phones). Based on betterbatterystats it looked like this was being caused by a wakelock related to google network services. I see the same wakelock on my Nexus 5 but it doesn't seem to cause any drain while sleeping while on the S3 it's probably losing 20% per hour while sleeping which is a major issue. Is this a known issue with Samsung's 4.3?
So I want to give her the phone in a state that is as maintenance free as possible. I planned to just keep it stock but the battery drain is going to make this phone useless for her and any kind of apps/utilities to tweak battery usage is not going to be a tenable solution with the phone in her hands. She's going to have her hands full just learning the basics.
Is there any way to fix the stock ROM to fix this battery drain issue? If not, is there a custom ROM that does not exhibit this problem but is fully stable and usable by a non-technical user? My experience with custom ROMS has been they all seemed to have various bugs or issues, probably related to incomplete driver support. That's one of the reasons I wanted to get a Nexus. But I haven't followed S3 development since so any suggestions on stable ROMS that don't need any tweaking would be appreciated.
Thanks!
On the stock side, you could start with a non root debloating effort.
Two basic principles are:
Eliminating 2x & 3x built in apps & services like email client, music store, contacts sync, social networking updater, weather widget etc. That is to say pick from the Samsung, Google or AT&T (or no) version and "Turn Off" the others in Application Manager, as able. Obviously root & say, App Quarantine would give greater reach there.
Secondly, reducing unneeded background activities like synching in selected apps' (like Gmail or Skype) settings menu and, if sufficient wifi uptime is available, "Restricting background data" per app; below the pie chart (in Settings/Data usage, after scrolling downward from the bar chart to click on individual apps.) This will limit top background data hogs from overusing cellular data connection activity (with its battery impact) & restrict them to the wifi connection. This works (non destructively wherever real time data can wait for wifi).
My rooted, modded stock 4.3 may be a little less restrictive than yours, but these procedures can make a pure stock flash tamer while considering root options.
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i want to downgrade my htc one m8 from lolipop to kitkat 4 again. can you please help me i dont like this os . kitkat was perfect
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i want to downgrade my htc one m8 from lolipop to kitkat 4 again. can you please help me i dont like this os . kitkat was perfect
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You need to unlock/s-off to get 100% downgrade, or, you can unlock bootloader, flash twrp, and install a kittkatt custom rom.
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thanks but i was on iphone i dont know whats all this. can you please tell me steps
It's not a case of following some steps. What you want is very technical and not for someone with no prior knowledge of rooting Android phones.
What don't you like about lollipop? It's no different, visually, to Kit Kat on the M8
slower
its slower and more battery consume and i dont like the notifications
mohamedabdallah2010 said:
its slower and more battery consume and i dont like the notifications
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Sounds like you update by OTA. In which case, updating by OTA and keeping user data is often the root of random issues. Try backing up any important personal data and doing a factory reset (to wipe user data - and NO this will not return you to a former OS version as some folks mistakenly believe). Lollipop isn't slower than KitKat in any significant way that I've noticed. You're probably seeing bugs due to conflicts with pre-existing user data (settings and apps).
Battery consumption may be due to the new radio. But it might also be a bug caused by pre-existing data, or you may just need to do a full charge-discharge cycle to properly calibrate the battery meter (mandatory after a major OS update).
Also, OTAs contain important security updates. So it should be considered that you won't have these if you "downgrade".
Something to consider - do you use Facebook Messenger? Turns out since the new Google Play services it's been eating battery like no one's business! Read the reviews on the Play Store for proof but it does seem to be linked to Lollipop and (for me) Google Play services 6.7.74
There's bugs even in OTA updates from 4.4.4 seems most if not all manufacturers having problems and they can really screw your handset up - apps consuming battery (not just Play Store) bad mobile internet, losing Wi-Fi , corrupting system, removing apps, deleting SDCard data.
Probably due to crap OTA "patched" system updates. Myself, once handset is back from warranty repair (12 days use, 4 of which OTA stuffed it up) I'll not use OTA again that's for sure.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Since I've removed Facebook Messenger my phone is back to normal, battery life as it was on 4.4.4 and everything is OK so I'm happy (don't use FB Messenger enough to warrant having it!)
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thank you all about reply's. i searched google and i see all people talking about battery and fb messanger on all phones. so you recommend to me to stay on lollipop ? but i dont like really this notification control
So I'm not alone in facing issues with Lollipop
When I update, I was getting terrible battery life so I performed a hard reset from bootloader.
Now almost everything is fine but Google Play Services, more specifically "Mobile radio active" has been eating into the standby time, not like before but still bad, goes on upto 3 hours. "Keep awake" also goes on upto 2 hours.
Any fix or suggestions would be helpful. I don't use Messenger and Facebook, as they were the major battery eaters.
Rather than keeping an eye on pointless stats, how long does your battery actually last? I honestly think people are making up issues. Now, the FB Messenger HAS been eating battery but once I removed that my battery life went back to normal
My battery was better but mobile data was screwed, WiFi only showing my router and no others, never used facebook (so it's not that app alone) blinkfeed consumed 46% of battery use. All on 4.4.4 update so to say people are making a big issue of it, yeah damn right, it was 100% better without the update!
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
But that's your individual issue between your phone/router/apps/etc. I've had zero issues with Lollipop bar this one with FB Messenger since the new Google Play services so I uninstalled it and now I'm back to running perfectly so clearly the OTA update isn't the issue
Have you done a factory reset to clear out anything left over from 4.4.4? It's always recommended to do so, as annoying as it is, when moving to a new version of Android. I set my phone up from scratch and have no problems with 5.0.1
I have done... Update still goosed it, so maybe you having no problems it's you that's the lucky one! That's why it's back at HTC!
If these patched updates were any good nobody would have issues!
Makes more sense than... It's just your issue!
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
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Uninstalling facebook so obviously not stock so the fact you're flashing quite possibly other ROM's negates your lack of problems. Fully stock phone updated worked worse than what I'm using now. Full stop.
There is also the fact I was told by my phone supplier that problems with updates are industry wide since 4.4.4 and if all the update are, are patches, then it's not going to be a quick fix, like it's known there's variations in the handsets with the carriers.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
If there were issues they'd pull the update and there'd be more media coverage. I've not flashed anything on my phone, I'm 100% stock and I've not rooted a phone in well over a year. My phone is running the latest Sense build released and have no issues. Now I only use about ten third party apps so it could just be that that means I'm not having issues. Or it could be I close all apps once I've finished with them. I don't know. But I don't think there's anything wrong with what HTC have released
Doesn't explain the problems people are having, my handset was working 100% A-ok the update which I never applied or accepted stuffed it, maybe it's not in the media because it's not affecting, like yourself, people who don't use it as heavily as others, like I said I've been told the industry is having problems with them, maybe the lucky ones less or not affected are low use.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Who told you the industry is having issues, though? I've not heard of Samsung of LG owners having issues, nor those with Nexus devices (well, not huge numbers of people anyway!), so I don't think Lollipop as a whole is the issue at all. Now, I'm not saying people don't have issues, but I think those issues are down to individual setups (apps installed, usage, even the components used in that particular handset). Perhaps I am lucky, but if I am I've been lucky with every phone I've ever owned
thank you all . here is what i did. i did a hard reset and restored my data then installed whatsapp only and now my battery is back to be very good as it was on kitkat and better. i will install every single app one a day to check which one eating the battery. and i will update you with details. and i see much people talking about this issue on other sites and other handsets.thanks
For me battery works good sometimes and then suddenly starts losing charge during standby, so I check and find Mobile Radio Active has been eating away the battery, while this was not the case with 4.4.4. Even with FB and Messenger installed I didn't have any problems but now I do. I uninstalled both so battery is better than what it was with them but still I lose charge mysteriously in standby randomly.