i want to downgrade my htc one m8 from lolipop to kitkat 4 again. can you please help me i dont like this os . kitkat was perfect
mohamedabdallah2010 said:
i want to downgrade my htc one m8 from lolipop to kitkat 4 again. can you please help me i dont like this os . kitkat was perfect
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You need to unlock/s-off to get 100% downgrade, or, you can unlock bootloader, flash twrp, and install a kittkatt custom rom.
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thanks but i was on iphone i dont know whats all this. can you please tell me steps
It's not a case of following some steps. What you want is very technical and not for someone with no prior knowledge of rooting Android phones.
What don't you like about lollipop? It's no different, visually, to Kit Kat on the M8
slower
its slower and more battery consume and i dont like the notifications
mohamedabdallah2010 said:
its slower and more battery consume and i dont like the notifications
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Sounds like you update by OTA. In which case, updating by OTA and keeping user data is often the root of random issues. Try backing up any important personal data and doing a factory reset (to wipe user data - and NO this will not return you to a former OS version as some folks mistakenly believe). Lollipop isn't slower than KitKat in any significant way that I've noticed. You're probably seeing bugs due to conflicts with pre-existing user data (settings and apps).
Battery consumption may be due to the new radio. But it might also be a bug caused by pre-existing data, or you may just need to do a full charge-discharge cycle to properly calibrate the battery meter (mandatory after a major OS update).
Also, OTAs contain important security updates. So it should be considered that you won't have these if you "downgrade".
Something to consider - do you use Facebook Messenger? Turns out since the new Google Play services it's been eating battery like no one's business! Read the reviews on the Play Store for proof but it does seem to be linked to Lollipop and (for me) Google Play services 6.7.74
There's bugs even in OTA updates from 4.4.4 seems most if not all manufacturers having problems and they can really screw your handset up - apps consuming battery (not just Play Store) bad mobile internet, losing Wi-Fi , corrupting system, removing apps, deleting SDCard data.
Probably due to crap OTA "patched" system updates. Myself, once handset is back from warranty repair (12 days use, 4 of which OTA stuffed it up) I'll not use OTA again that's for sure.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Since I've removed Facebook Messenger my phone is back to normal, battery life as it was on 4.4.4 and everything is OK so I'm happy (don't use FB Messenger enough to warrant having it!)
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thank you all about reply's. i searched google and i see all people talking about battery and fb messanger on all phones. so you recommend to me to stay on lollipop ? but i dont like really this notification control
So I'm not alone in facing issues with Lollipop
When I update, I was getting terrible battery life so I performed a hard reset from bootloader.
Now almost everything is fine but Google Play Services, more specifically "Mobile radio active" has been eating into the standby time, not like before but still bad, goes on upto 3 hours. "Keep awake" also goes on upto 2 hours.
Any fix or suggestions would be helpful. I don't use Messenger and Facebook, as they were the major battery eaters.
Rather than keeping an eye on pointless stats, how long does your battery actually last? I honestly think people are making up issues. Now, the FB Messenger HAS been eating battery but once I removed that my battery life went back to normal
My battery was better but mobile data was screwed, WiFi only showing my router and no others, never used facebook (so it's not that app alone) blinkfeed consumed 46% of battery use. All on 4.4.4 update so to say people are making a big issue of it, yeah damn right, it was 100% better without the update!
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
But that's your individual issue between your phone/router/apps/etc. I've had zero issues with Lollipop bar this one with FB Messenger since the new Google Play services so I uninstalled it and now I'm back to running perfectly so clearly the OTA update isn't the issue
Have you done a factory reset to clear out anything left over from 4.4.4? It's always recommended to do so, as annoying as it is, when moving to a new version of Android. I set my phone up from scratch and have no problems with 5.0.1
I have done... Update still goosed it, so maybe you having no problems it's you that's the lucky one! That's why it's back at HTC!
If these patched updates were any good nobody would have issues!
Makes more sense than... It's just your issue!
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
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Uninstalling facebook so obviously not stock so the fact you're flashing quite possibly other ROM's negates your lack of problems. Fully stock phone updated worked worse than what I'm using now. Full stop.
There is also the fact I was told by my phone supplier that problems with updates are industry wide since 4.4.4 and if all the update are, are patches, then it's not going to be a quick fix, like it's known there's variations in the handsets with the carriers.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
If there were issues they'd pull the update and there'd be more media coverage. I've not flashed anything on my phone, I'm 100% stock and I've not rooted a phone in well over a year. My phone is running the latest Sense build released and have no issues. Now I only use about ten third party apps so it could just be that that means I'm not having issues. Or it could be I close all apps once I've finished with them. I don't know. But I don't think there's anything wrong with what HTC have released
Doesn't explain the problems people are having, my handset was working 100% A-ok the update which I never applied or accepted stuffed it, maybe it's not in the media because it's not affecting, like yourself, people who don't use it as heavily as others, like I said I've been told the industry is having problems with them, maybe the lucky ones less or not affected are low use.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Who told you the industry is having issues, though? I've not heard of Samsung of LG owners having issues, nor those with Nexus devices (well, not huge numbers of people anyway!), so I don't think Lollipop as a whole is the issue at all. Now, I'm not saying people don't have issues, but I think those issues are down to individual setups (apps installed, usage, even the components used in that particular handset). Perhaps I am lucky, but if I am I've been lucky with every phone I've ever owned
thank you all . here is what i did. i did a hard reset and restored my data then installed whatsapp only and now my battery is back to be very good as it was on kitkat and better. i will install every single app one a day to check which one eating the battery. and i will update you with details. and i see much people talking about this issue on other sites and other handsets.thanks
For me battery works good sometimes and then suddenly starts losing charge during standby, so I check and find Mobile Radio Active has been eating away the battery, while this was not the case with 4.4.4. Even with FB and Messenger installed I didn't have any problems but now I do. I uninstalled both so battery is better than what it was with them but still I lose charge mysteriously in standby randomly.
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I have flashed many Roms over the last year, Jedi Roms, Infamous Roms, Stock, and most recently Rushing's Shadow Rom. I have stuck to only Touchwiz based Roms since I need WiFi Calling to use my cell phone in my apartment.
The one thing I noticed every time I flashed is that the phone would get significantly slower after I rebooted the phone the first time after I installed a bunch of apps. (Not after the first one I do after the phone has resynch'ed contacts and stuff from google) Additionally, after a couple months the phone would get so slow that I would reflash a new Rom (generally, by this time a new version, but if a new version is not available, I usually switch Roms)
The apps I usually download include:
Google - YouTube, Maps
T-Mobile -Visual Voicemail
Media - Pulse, BeyondPod, a music player
Root stuff - Titanium, Rom toolbox, ES file explorer, etc.
Popular apps - Facebook, twitter, ebay, bank of america, etc.
Are any of these apps known to degrade the performance of your phone over time? Is there a way to diagnose which of these apps are running and when?
A second theory I have is that something on my SD card is either corrupt or not getting wiped properly. Then, these corrupt sectors/files cause performance to decrease over time? Has anybody heard of anything like this? Are there any utilities out there to look for corrupt file. Can anyone reccomend a SD cleaning app that might help if this is the case?
A third theory is that these customized Roms aren't as stable as they are thought to be. I don't believe this is the case since the developers on this forum are much smarter than me, and thoroughly test their roms. Additionally, I have seen this happen with Stock rooted also, which also discounts this theory.
Most of this is spit-balling so that people can see my symptoms (if you had similar symptoms, please share troubleshooting steps and resolution) as well as maybe trigger an idea in someone that has an easy fix to my issue. I like this phone a lot and I don't want to buy a new phone just to avoid these issues. I think this phone is still capable of handling the workload of a 2013 smartphone.
Please let me know any tests/logs that would help you help me solve this problem.
I haven't used my S3 in a while since I got my Nexus 5 but never got around to selling it. I was thinking of giving it to my mom instead, who's never used a smartphone but expressed some interest in getting one.
I had unrooted and flashed a stock Rogers 4.3 in anticipation of selling it.
Last week my Nexus 5 died and while waiting for my replacement I was using the S3 again as a backup. Since I only needed it for a few days I didn't do any rooting or customization and lived with the stock experience.
However, I found there was serious battery drain. Much more than I recall when I was using it prior to 4.3 (which came out around the time I switched phones). Based on betterbatterystats it looked like this was being caused by a wakelock related to google network services. I see the same wakelock on my Nexus 5 but it doesn't seem to cause any drain while sleeping while on the S3 it's probably losing 20% per hour while sleeping which is a major issue. Is this a known issue with Samsung's 4.3?
So I want to give her the phone in a state that is as maintenance free as possible. I planned to just keep it stock but the battery drain is going to make this phone useless for her and any kind of apps/utilities to tweak battery usage is not going to be a tenable solution with the phone in her hands. She's going to have her hands full just learning the basics.
Is there any way to fix the stock ROM to fix this battery drain issue? If not, is there a custom ROM that does not exhibit this problem but is fully stable and usable by a non-technical user? My experience with custom ROMS has been they all seemed to have various bugs or issues, probably related to incomplete driver support. That's one of the reasons I wanted to get a Nexus. But I haven't followed S3 development since so any suggestions on stable ROMS that don't need any tweaking would be appreciated.
Thanks!
On the stock side, you could start with a non root debloating effort.
Two basic principles are:
Eliminating 2x & 3x built in apps & services like email client, music store, contacts sync, social networking updater, weather widget etc. That is to say pick from the Samsung, Google or AT&T (or no) version and "Turn Off" the others in Application Manager, as able. Obviously root & say, App Quarantine would give greater reach there.
Secondly, reducing unneeded background activities like synching in selected apps' (like Gmail or Skype) settings menu and, if sufficient wifi uptime is available, "Restricting background data" per app; below the pie chart (in Settings/Data usage, after scrolling downward from the bar chart to click on individual apps.) This will limit top background data hogs from overusing cellular data connection activity (with its battery impact) & restrict them to the wifi connection. This works (non destructively wherever real time data can wait for wifi).
My rooted, modded stock 4.3 may be a little less restrictive than yours, but these procedures can make a pure stock flash tamer while considering root options.
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Hello everybody,
got this mobile a few months ago, latest Android officially available release, only thing I did was rooting and adding some software, I use it as a second device mostly to check email and online services, I use my other smartphone as a phone and for calendars, phonebook and notes.
I noticed that the device all of a sudden restarts without me doing anything, my son (who uses Android since longer than me but who doesn't really know much about it...) said it could be the heat (it's always in the shade) or too many options on (wi-fi in primis) but I checked and there are just a few apps running (mail, phone, phonebook, sometimes Instagram), what can I check to find how does it restart without any notice or action from me?
Thank you
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I had an issue where my Note 2 would randomly reboot, I also had an issue where my power button was dodgy.
What it ended up being was the ribbon for the power button, got this replaced, and this fixed my dodgy power button issue, as well as the random reboots.
I paid to get this done in a shop, but it seems you can do this yourself.
Sorry i can't post links - hope this makes sense
youtube com/watch?v=T5zPvP4btDA
Of course, your problem might be different
Giuann said:
Hello everybody,
got this mobile a few months ago, latest Android officially available release, only thing I did was rooting and adding some software, I use it as a second device mostly to check email and online services, I use my other smartphone as a phone and for calendars, phonebook and notes.
I noticed that the device all of a sudden restarts without me doing anything, my son (who uses Android since longer than me but who doesn't really know much about it...) said it could be the heat (it's always in the shade) or too many options on (wi-fi in primis) but I checked and there are just a few apps running (mail, phone, phonebook, sometimes Instagram), what can I check to find how does it restart without any notice or action from me?
Thank you
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Dear Giuann
What you are experiencing is know as SOD (silence of death) on our Android World
If your phone is rooted and you have custom Kernel then it would be due to the kernel... change your kernel to stock or a more stable one as per your device.
If you have a stock kernel... then clean your cache.. etc.. or better reflash stock ROM...
alternately use Betterbattary stats to identify if you have any rogue application which is causing issues...
I have experience this issue when I did rooting.. re root it with the correct method....
I did only root it as to install software I download from the internet, everything is as it originally was, ROM is the stock one.
Which are the steps to perform to clean the cache and to check if some app is making the OS crash?
Thank you
I'm running stock AT&T 4.0.4 ROM, rooted with CWM. Google Play Services just updated to version 9.2.56 (034-124593566), and it's sucking my battery dry and making the phone run hot. I have a spare phone and brought it online, and the same thing happened as soon as Google Play Services updated. It is running anywhere from 50% to 80% of my battery when the screen is below 10%. Yep, it's using more than 10x what the screen requires. Battery that used to last 18 hours now lasts 2 to 3. Others have posted similar comments in the Play Store (like that's going to do any good). Common theme is it's older OSes.
I have tried disabling everything and it doesn't do any good. Too many things break if Google Play Services is removed. Going back to an old version is futile -- it self-updates within minutes. I tried GServiceFix and it works for few minutes, then the usage creeps up again.
I sent Google an email, but I expect nothing less than the run-around. So, I turn to XDA Developers.
First, is anyone else here still running stock, and did the same thing happen to you? How about on other ROMs (please specify)? Did you find a fix?
Assuming Google will do little to help, I need to do something to make my phone work right. So if there is a ROM where this is not a problem, I guess it's time to jump in. Problem is, some of the links in this forum are broken. I've found (or already had) most of what I think I need except a version or EFS Professional that works on our phone. I can find no working links to an older version that will do the job. I do have a Nandroid backup (also stored on my NAS), which I believe can restore the EFS, but I'd like to get just the EFS in case I need to load it to the system after flashing. None of the tools available in the Play Store seem to work on the Glide -- I end up with an empty backup directory.
My plan, assuming there is a Jellybean ROM without this issue, is to flash twrp-2.8.4-flashable.zip, since I understand TWRP is required for JB, then do another Nandroid backup with it, then flash whichever ROM is suggested to get over this. I've looked at Bubor's CM10.2, and it looks like it will fill my needs unless it also suffers this problem. If there is a reason I should update the Kernel, please let me know. I have not seen anything that makes me believe I need to.
Man, I wish one of the manufacturers would come out with a similarly sized new phone with a slide-out keyboard and AT&T compatible. I'd gladly upgrade, but there is nothing out there that meets my needs. Samsung S5 mini with slider -- I'm in.
Hi,
its one year later...
I'm with the same problem. Do you still have a solution?
Other ROMs have issues with camera and BT...
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k/LurezyxjAgAJ
Recently it is using a ridiculous amount of data (started a few days ago). I checked the data usage and found the name: com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp. How do I disable it?
I don't think it's a service you can actually disable. It's part of the chipset and is used to determine whether a WiFi or data connection is stronger in real time and keep you on the stronger connection. My understanding is that all of your data goes through that service regardless of which app is actually using the data so thinking it's that service itself that's using all your data is backwards. That number is basically a catch all for the data used on your phone by other various apps and services.
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I don't think it's a service you can actually disable. It's part of the chipset and is used to determine whether a WiFi or data connection is stronger in real time and keep you on the stronger connection. My understanding is that all of your data goes through that service regardless of which app is actually using the data so thinking it's that service itself that's using all your data is backwards. That number is basically a catch all for the data used on your phone by other various apps and services.
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Is there any way to figure out what app or service is it?
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Is there any way to figure out what app or service is it?
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Using Stock ROM? I had this some time ago. It's because it's downloading an OTA update in the background, failing to install because of custom recovery/root/something else, and retrying forever.
Some have suggested disabling automatic updates in dev settings, but for me it didn't fix it.
Flash the latest images and you'll be fine.
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Using Stock ROM? I had this some time ago. It's because it's downloading an OTA update in the background, failing to install because of custom recovery/root/something else, and retrying forever.
Some have suggested disabling automatic updates in dev settings, but for me it didn't fix it.
Flash the latest images and you'll be fine.
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Thanks. I did root the phone. I just turned off the automatic update, hope it'll work.
Like mentioned by josdehaes, having automatic updates turned off still allowed the usage on my rooted Verizon phone. I saw one person suggest the issue might be specific to rooted Verizon phones, but I have no idea if that's accurate or not. Since my phone is rooted with SuperSU, and because I don't have anything else like TWRP installed, I just started using FlashFire to update. Keeping the phone updated to the latest software has worked so far, and letting FlashFire install the OTA on the phone is a lot quicker than messing with factory images or sideloading the full OTA. If that wouldn't have worked, I thought about installing a ROM that doesn't use the OTA, since the only other procedure I've ran across for stopping stock updates kept my phone from going into deep sleep.
High CNEService can probably be caused by a hundred things other than a failed OTA update and if it actually was an OTA update you should see an Android notification mentioning the fact that there's an update. Having a rooted phone on stock does not stop OTA updates from downloading successfully and it certainly doesn't prevent the Android notification telling you that an update downloaded or is available for your phone. If you bother to do a Google search on your "problem' you will find that people complain about the same exact thing on an assortment of Android devices regardless of manufacturer and most of the people doing the complaining do not have rooted phones. It has nothing to do with Verizon and most probably nothing to do with what the earlier poster suggested.
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Having a rooted phone on stock does not stop OTA updates from downloading successfully
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Having a Pixel rooted with SuperSU certainly can stop an OTA update. Although my phone had been updating fine using the OTA before installing SuperSU, either SuperSU or the changes I made with root would no longer allow the OTA, even after SuperSU was removed.
If you bother to do a Google search on your "problem' you will find that people complain about the same exact thing on an assortment of Android devices regardless of manufacturer and most of the people doing the complaining do not have rooted phones. It has nothing to do with Verizon and most probably nothing to do with what the earlier poster suggested.
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All the discussions I've read in the Pixel and Pixel XL forums that mention unexplainable and abnormally high cellular data usage, which the phone lists as being from a CNEService process, have been rooted phones that are not running the current update. As previously noted, it's the most likely guess, since that's the consensus from multiple threads. All I know for absolute certainty is that the Automatic system updates setting had been turned off, and my phone stopped the excessive data usage after updating to the current version. I had never seen any listings of which phones in the discussions were Verizon phones, so I'm not sure where the presumption came from that only Verizon phones might have been affected when automatic updates were turned off.
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High CNEService can probably be caused by a hundred things other than a failed OTA update and if it actually was an OTA update you should see an Android notification mentioning the fact that there's an update. Having a rooted phone on stock does not stop OTA updates from downloading successfully and it certainly doesn't prevent the Android notification telling you that an update downloaded or is available for your phone. If you bother to do a Google search on your "problem' you will find that people complain about the same exact thing on an assortment of Android devices regardless of manufacturer and most of the people doing the complaining do not have rooted phones. It has nothing to do with Verizon and most probably nothing to do with what the earlier poster suggested.
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Pixels redownloading the OTA's over and over while failing silently has been reported many times here. No idea why, but they are always modded or rooted phones and usually​ a VZ phone or a Google phone with a VZ SIM
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Having a Pixel rooted with SuperSU certainly can stop an OTA update. Although my phone had been updating fine using the OTA before installing SuperSU, either SuperSU or the changes I made with root would no longer allow the OTA, even after SuperSU was removed.
All the discussions I've read in the Pixel and Pixel XL forums that mention unexplainable and abnormally high cellular data usage, which the phone lists as being from a CNEService process, have been rooted phones that are not running the current update. As previously noted, it's the most likely guess, since that's the consensus from multiple threads. All I know for absolute certainty is that the Automatic system updates setting had been turned off, and my phone stopped the excessive data usage after updating to the current version. I had never seen any listings of which phones in the discussions were Verizon phones, so I'm not sure where the presumption came from that only Verizon phones might have been affected when automatic updates were turned off.
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I'm not saying that having a rooted phone on stock wouldn't stop an OTA from updating successfully --on any other phone besides a Pixel that would pretty much guarantee that an OTA would fail to install. What I'm saying is that the OTA would still download and you would still see an Android notifications informing you that either an update was available for your phone or that one was downloaded and ready to install. Even if you are rooted on stock or are using a stock based Rom it wouldn't normally interfere with either the download or the notification --only the ultimate installation of the OTA. The fact that turning off Automatic Updates lowered your reported CNEService usage also doesn't prove that the problem was actually a failed OTA update --it could be that turning off Automatic Updates stopped a background process that was misbehaving or corrupted on your phone. Reporting of high CNEService usage isn't any more common on rooted phones than unrooted ones and if it is actually a sign of a problem and not simply a misinterpretation of what the number means then a factory reset pretty much always fixes it.
People have also frequently reported that turning off both WiFi assistant and the scan for open networks options fixed the same problem on their phones, even though logically you would think that would do the opposite and make the problem worse. But Android likes to simplify things for users by grouping the numbers for multiple processes under the same header, which is apparently the case for that number which is why it can actually indicate different problems on different phones, providing that there actually is a problem in the first place. People sometimes see that number and freak out assuming that it represents separate data used completely apart from their other apps and services but that isn't the case.
I should have mentioned that turning off both WiFi Helper and the automatically connect to open networks setting solution to high CNEService data usage actually came from the official Pixel Support thread on Google. People on XDA probably assume the issue is related to root because people on XDA like to root--to a hammer everything looks like a nail. But the same issue is also common on phones running full stock.
Far as I can tell, the original poster indicated that they had a rooted phone and allowed automatic updates. Prior discussions appear to suggest that could correlate with these high data usage events. I'd still take the position that turning off the automatic update setting on a rooted phone is probably a decent suggestion. Based on my own experience, I hesitate to suggest that turning off automatic updates eliminates the possibility of high data usage happening on future updates.
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The fact that turning off Automatic Updates lowered your reported CNEService usage also doesn't prove that the problem was actually a failed OTA update --it could be that turning off Automatic Updates stopped a background process that was misbehaving or corrupted on your phone.
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Actually, that is not a fact in relation to my comments. I personally had Automatic Updates turned off before the update notification.
Reporting of high CNEService usage isn't any more common on rooted phones than unrooted ones and if it is actually a sign of a problem and not simply a misinterpretation of what the number means then a factory reset pretty much always fixes it.
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Mainly I just take this sort of statement as merely a suggestion to consider other possible avenues in troubleshooting the situation, since I'm not sure what data someone might use that would be a necessarily superior choice. I probably did factory reset my phone after the high usage, so I suppose that might be an alternate explanation for it only happening one time.
People have also frequently reported that turning off both WiFi assistant and the scan for open networks options fixed the same problem on their phones, even though logically you would think that would do the opposite and make the problem worse.
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I thought Wi-Fi scanning was always turned off on my phone, but one time when I was out of town I noticed it was actually on, so it's possible Wi-Fi scanning could have been on when I had my own high data usage event while ignoring the software update message. I think the Wi-Fi Assistant setting was most likely turned off.
People sometimes see that number and freak out assuming that it represents separate data used completely apart from their other apps and services but that isn't the case.
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Again, I take this comment as merely a suggestion of alternate possibilities. The only thing out of the ordinary on my phone at the time was Google Earth, but it didn't seem to correlate with the usage, since the timeline didn't appear to match up and short-term use over Wi-Fi usually only reports as a few MB. I suppose with how Android automatically updates apps, maybe there was something on my phone at the time that was unusually using data that has since been corrected, yet I still don't see a clear reason to entirely discount the possibility that the event might have related with the software update being ignored.
Did anybody actually found a solution to this problem, or is it simply unsolvable?
dya said:
Did anybody actually found a solution to this problem, or is it simply unsolvable?
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it would be nice if msomeone did bc I'm having this issue and it's driving me insane. tasker controls my connections. I use android so I don't have to rely on closed source apps
Just turned off mobile data or wifi and CNE is turned off,
If you want to remove this service just goto /vendor/app/cne.apk
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CNE - Connectivity Engine is the brain of the modem driver or Qualcomm chipset driver.
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Removing this service makes your device save a lots of power best for you.
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Removing this service can soft brick your device or simply your device can't connect to the internet.
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