Develop Bugs

CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, or any other ROMs?

Would Cyanogen Mod be interested in developing for this phone now that we have unlocked bootloader? Given the choice, I'd love Paranoid Android, but I went hold my breath.

CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2

BrokenROM https://github.com/BrokenROM/device_asus_moorefield

Seems that are only for ZE551ML I hope that will be compatible with ZE550ML

If someone can get pure AOSP or CM working, the ROMs will flow out like water... once a base is established building many ROMs is easy. If we get CM, then look for ROMs like Beanstalk, BlissPop, Carbon, , etc. to follow closely behind. Patience, it will happen...

MatteXperiaU said:
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
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Yay! I really hope Paranoid Android follows suit. I LOVE Pa's Halo feature.

custom roms will help this phone.zenny 2 has one of the worst stock firmware optimization ever and seems like asus cant fix the problems.

Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.

Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Cool! I see lots of potential ROM development for this phone!
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using XDA Free mobile app

Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Good to see Asus is showing commitment to this phone. Also great to see you guys are embracing the aftermarket ROM community. More vendors need to be supportive like this.

We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .

Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Awesome! Is there/will there be collaboration with the developers regarding the kernel and device tree from ASUS as well? That would be key to have a fully-working custom ROM in the nearer future (versus the developers having to learn from scratch and sort of fend for themselves, kludging their way along and delaying the end goal).
So exciting!

We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.

Tuanies said:
We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...

Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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CC: @TheSSJ, @shakalaca, @jrior001, @crpalmer, @sorg, @Harfainx, @vampirefo and other zf2 developers.. :victory:

Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done

Good thing to see Asus sharing to make custom ROMs efficient.
Already on Harfainx's ROM, can't wait to see things going even further.

SBFarooq said:
Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
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Unfortunately in only responsible for North America and have no say for any other regions.
TheSSJ said:
This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.

I'll probably start development for this phone once i get it. Never worked with an x86 android device before but it sounds like a fun challenge

Tuanies said:
This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
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Hi,
I've got some sort of situation here concerning building the kernel for ZF2 on my own. I downloaded the kernel source from ASUS website and followed the instructions one by one (download the android source code, use the appropriate toolchain, issue the kernel build command using fhd_defconfig, etc.
The phone boots and works good, BUT:
The phone never gets to deep sleep mode because of hsic_s3_wlock (kernel wakelock from USB HSIC). Could you please ask someone from the technical department to check what is causing this or if any config entry is missing? I am really starting to doubt that this is something I can influence at all

Pixel Rom Port for OP3 possible?

Hey Guys.
Was wondering if anyone would be willing to port a original Pixel Rom to our device?
I always liked the Nexus roms and the Pixel phones seem pretty similar to the OP3 so that might just make it possible?
Let me know if anyone is willing to try
Thanks!

Please move this thread @steven
And please don't post Q and A threads here

Nishidh said:
Please move this thread @steven
And please don't post Q and A threads here
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Does the world end if he/she does? Bit harsh for someone who probably didn't know where to post this question.

cloudx720 said:
Does the world end if he/she does? Bit harsh for someone who probably didn't know where to post this question.
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Pretty obvious IMO that questions go in the "questions and answers" sub forum

2x4 said:
Pretty obvious IMO that questions go in the "questions and answers" sub forum
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Good one ?

cloudx720 said:
Does the world end if he/she does? Bit harsh for someone who probably didn't know where to post this question.
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From what i see, his reply has been very polite buddy, and second OP is senior member.
Let me make you an analogy, if your dog take a poop in your usual breakfast plate, it doesn't make the world end buddy, but it does make that plate ****ty.
Good thing is this have been moved to this q/a graveyard, and he doesn't recieve my response before.
Trust me, i can make a lot of worse version for both - this reply and thread reply.

150208 said:
From what i see, his reply has been very polite buddy, and second OP is senior member.
Let me make you an analogy, if your dog take a poop in your usual breakfast plate, it doesn't make the world end buddy, but it does make that plate ****ty.
Good thing is this have been moved to this q/a graveyard, and he doesn't recieve my response before.
Trust me, i can make a lot of worse version for both - this reply and thread reply.
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Trembling in my boots ?

cloudx720 said:
Trembling in my boots ?
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Oh, i get it now. You're the one who has no life. Damn i fall into a hole. Good bye then :good:

Guys! I just wrote this thread on my phone via Tapatalk and was simply in the wrong forum. Of course this belongs into the Q&A section. MY BAD. Now do me the favor and behave! Some XDA members really need to go and let their steam of elsewhere!
Now please just reply ON TOPIC or don't bother at all. Thank you!
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

Nobodys_me said:
Hey Guys.
Was wondering if anyone would be willing to port a original Pixel Rom to our device?
I always liked the Nexus roms and the Pixel phones seem pretty similar to the OP3 so that might just make it possible?
Let me know if anyone is willing to try
Thanks!
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If u are that desperate to get pixel ROM just try my pixel ui mod ul get most of the pixel UI
And just remember that next time don't create Questions answer threads in other sections

Nishidh said:
If u are that desperate to get pixel ROM just try my pixel ui mod ul get most of the pixel UI
And just remember that next time don't create Questions answer threads in other sections
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Dude you need to chill down. We all make mistakes. OP is asking a simple questions and yet you are not helping in anyway.
@op - I don't think so but you can try Resurrection ROM or any other pure Android ROM and flash Google pixel mode which would give you a close look to pixel.

To answer the question, a true Nexus/Pixel ROM port is possible but extremely hard and time consuming and not always worth it.
Not trying to insult any devs but custom Roms not based on OOS are not worth it. There's always stability issues with certain apps and performance is very good but inconsistent (random lags here and there that are really annoying). Camera quality is not even close to OOS (unless you're on sultan's ROM but that's cm13).
You're best bet for this phone is Experience ROM or FreedomOS (based on OOS 4.0.2) and F2FS format for /data + Blu spark kernel. Best performance/battery life combo there is in all situations

badboy47 said:
Dude you need to chill down. We all make mistakes. OP is asking a simple questions and yet you are not helping in anyway.
@op - I don't think so but you can try Resurrection ROM or any other pure Android ROM and flash Google pixel mode which would give you a close look to pixel.
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And I'm just telling him not shouting at him it's just an advice
Well I told him to use pixel UI mod
And u think that's not answering

Hey thanks for the replies guys.
The Pixel Ui isn't the reason I want the port. My main issue with the current Roms out there is that 90% of them are based ok lineage OS which atm has way to many bugs / issues imo. I know some issues you can fix by flashing this zip and that zip and maybe another zip here. Not the biggest fan of that.
As for the OOS based ROMs: I am currently on one of them. Sadly i am also one of the people that has huge issues with WiFi / network stability.
I opened this thread cause I saw that the Samsung Galaxy s7 has a working Pixel rom Port and so does the nexus 5x. There are more phones that have working ports too and all of them are not as similar to the pixel phones as the OP3. That's why I was wondering why no one has ported it yet and if someone would be willing to try.
Thanks guys!
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Google Pixel Rom Development

Hi guys , as lot of us I want a Pixel Rom with the Pixel Experience and most of all the Pixel Camera (So we can really use our camera sensor )
I have been in talks we some Developers of Pixel Roms and ask them if they would be interested in trying to make a Pixel Rom for our Mi5s and 4 of them answered me with a positive answer.
I'm creating this thread because for them to try to build the Rom we would need to join forces and Donate enought money so we could purchase them a Mi5s.
So if you are interested in a Pixel Rom and don't mind giving up a Buck for the cause just let me know in the Pool to see if this would be possible.
So I created a CrowdFunding campaing to see if we can reach the goal , I set the goal to 460$ to see if we could get two Mi5s to the two Dev's who are most interested.
If you want this to happen just donate 1$ it's a Beer and it would help alot!
http://fnd.us/51Fx7c?ref=sh_96jnqa

How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested

werzum said:
How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!

so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign

Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums

bozy09 said:
Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums
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Airborntx said:
so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign
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I agree that the Central Post should be here and if we would create on the oher Forums we should link it to this one.
I don't have a Reddit account if you guys don't mind creating for me I would appreciate.
Best regards

Wow i can't wait for it ???

fereidooni said:
Wow i can't wait for it
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weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!

bozy09 said:
weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!
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i do my best

Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that

So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )

Airborntx said:
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Hi there , I think the point would be for him to stay with the device and we would only consider that of sending to another one if the choosen Dev won't be able to do anything per say.
krelly said:
So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )
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What I did was asking some Developers from the Pixel section if they would be interested in making a Pixel Rom for the Xiaomi Mi5s and if they would be able to try to Port the Camera Firmware or Algorithms from the Pixel to the Xiaomi Mi5s.
Of course they can't know for sure if they are going to be able to do it but they said they would love to try , and that's the best answer we can get from anyone to be honest.

We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.

j1505243 said:
We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.
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If there is progress in this direction, then certainly is good news.

I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.

mesziman said:
I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.
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I would like to help, but like you I'm a software developer and I don't know if I can help with my knowledge. But it's cool to see peoples interested to the improvement of this camera.

When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer

John.D.. said:
When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer
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I'd like to know this too

Take me?I am responsible for informing the Chinese people of the miui forum
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!
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Airborntx said:
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Nexus Experience rom is very similar to pixel. http://www.nxrom.us/mi5splus.html I can't tell a difference from it vs the pixel rom on my 5x other than some LOS features included.
Google photo thinks it's a pixel (unlimited storage)
Flashing the google camera - https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported takes care of the camera part, although I use a separate app for video recording since its video recording is buggy and FCs

BSG has been stopped working on gcams for mi 6

Should i buy bad and low end phones to get good support
All xiaomi phones now have fully working gcams xiaomi redmi 4x have gcam fully working
Mi6 doesn't have anything like mix 2
Me and 10 others gonna sell our devices mi 6 bc of this:good:

Yes please, sell your ****ing phone and leave us alone.

Ballesss said:
Yes please, sell your ****ing phone and leave us alone.
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+1

Any reason my 'OK, bye' emoji response was deleted?...

A.N.A.R said:
Should i buy bad and low end phones to get good support
All xiaomi phones now have fully working gcams xiaomi redmi 4x have gcam fully working
Mi6 doesn't have anything like mix 2
Me and 10 others gonna sell our devices mi 6 bc of this:good:
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OMG NOOOO DON'T SELL IT!!! PLEASE!!!
Oh wait nobody cares if you sell the phone or not.
Oh wait Gcam works like a charm... let me guess you are one of those who begs for portrait mode.... LOL
But hey if you want portrait mode and every single feature of the gcam, someone told me that there is this phone... What was the name?? oh yes Pixel 2, with it you get everything working and no issues at all.
What's wrong with these people??? A few years ago people were grateful if someone ported /release a rom or an App. Now people just begs...
HEY i WANT VOLTE NOW!!!
HEY I WANT MY GCAM TO WORK JUST LIKE A PIXEL 2 PRONTO!!!
HEY ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE THIS ROM EVERY SINGLE WEEK, UNTIL I GOT TIRED OF THE PHONE??
No one in this forums owns us a single thing, everything they do with their free time is their own business. Want to get things done???
A)Hire a developer and pay him a monthly income
B)Do it yourself

wildger said:
OMG NOOOO DON'T SELL IT!!! PLEASE!!!
Oh wait nobody cares if you sell the phone or not.
Oh wait Gcam works like a charm... let me guess you are one of those who begs for portrait mode.... LOL
But hey if you want portrait mode and every single feature of the gcam, someone told me that there is this phone... What was the name?? oh yes Pixel 2, with it you get everything working and no issues at all.
What's wrong with these people??? A few years ago people were grateful if someone ported /release a rom or an App. Now people just begs...
HEY i WANT VOLTE NOW!!!
HEY I WANT MY GCAM TO WORK JUST LIKE A PIXEL 2 PRONTO!!!
HEY ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE THIS ROM EVERY SINGLE WEEK, UNTIL I GOT TIRED OF THE PHONE??
No one in this forums owns us a single thing, everything they do with their free time is their own business. Want to get things done???
A)Hire a developer and pay him a monthly income
B)Do it yourself
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:laugh:

Sell your mi 6, then buy a Pixel 2, and you will get a fully working Google camera.

G4B33 said:
Sell your mi 6, then buy a Pixel 2, and you will get a fully working Google camera.
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:laugh:

Ballesss said:
Yes please, sell your ****ing phone and leave us alone.
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:silly:

Dobsgw said:
+1
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+2 :laugh:

I have a fully working gcam by bsg so i don't care if he stopped or not. I doubt it can go better

fuarkgl3 said:
I have a fully working gcam by bsg so i don't care if he stopped or not. I doubt it can go better
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The GCAM is fully functional, the only thing that don't work is portrait mode and this clown here was begging for that.

wildger said:
The GCAM is fully functional, the only thing that don't work is portrait mode and this clown here was begging for that.
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It's just disrespectful.
Absolutely no reason for this at all.
We got working HDR+ and that's absolutely amazing in itself.
I'm sure BSG will keep updating the apk for Mi 6 to match the Google versions, but he doesn't have Mi 6 so he's really got no easy way to do it....
Thread is so off topic might as well report. Its only hurting developers hard work.

It just make him look like a clown... BSG has done more than enough for the MI6.

From the Moderator Oka1
All in this thread .... if you want to just chat then go to G+
XDA is a place for real phone improvement posting and development related topics
Not Chit-Chat Especially this kind of pointless Posting.
ANY OF YOU OPEN A THREAD LIKE THIS AGAIN EXPECT HARSH RESPONSE FROM THE MODERATING TEAM.
Thanks,
~~~ oka1
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Custom ROMs and Kernel development?

Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!

xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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I know we have one of the best time devs he had a locked bootloader Las t I heard tho

xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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I'm using this kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...-pro-cross-device-development/kernel-t4002781
It is very good.

xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.

thedrizzle said:
There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
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you kidding right?

One of the major Problems is twrp still needs time for Android 10.
It's a problem for every device.

You also have the option of arter97's kernel that he just brought to the 7t
[r40] arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series
There may not be a huge quantity of devs for the phone yet but in this case, you have a few very good developers already.
Oh and on a side note, Arter97 is helping to bring Paranoid Android back to the scene so good things are coming.

thedrizzle said:
There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
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Where ?
Do you have some telegram links ?

hightech316 said:
Where ?
Do you have some telegram links ?
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Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.

Skripka said:
Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
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Awhhh man , PM me.
I try to contribute, I am working on a new nethunter kernel that supports

mjwhirly said:
You also have the option of arter97's kernel that he just brought to the 7t
[r40] arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series
There may not be a huge quantity of devs for the phone yet but in this case, you have a few very good developers already.
Oh and on a side note, Arter97 is helping to bring Paranoid Android back to the scene so good things are coming.
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yea, saw this and got excited cause he really seems to know his stuff, but then i realized he just released the last/final version for oos and wont be continuing to provide for the original os.

Skripka said:
Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
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and how do one get access to those elitist circles if one is not a newbish user?

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and how do one get access to those elitist circles if one is not a newbish user?
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I'd like to know as well. I just past 12 years of membership last week. I think that qualifies me as non-noob.
I was here when they were developing for the old Windows Mobile.

Ditto
Superguy said:
I'd like to know as well. I just past 12 years of membership last week. I think that qualifies me as non-noob.
I was here when they were developing for the old Windows Mobile.
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Also on year 12 and originally from WM days. Back when HTC was THE phone to own.
Would also be interested in the alternate site. I am not a dev but gladly test pretty much everything.

I miss the old Nexus days easy to root support galore.

jcotterman said:
Also on year 12 and originally from WM days. Back when HTC was THE phone to own.
Would also be interested in the alternate site. I am not a dev but gladly test pretty much everything.
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Yep - cut my teeth on the HTC phones. Still used them off and on up to the 10.
NATF used to do the best WM ROMs back in the day.

So What Should I Do? OnePlus 7 Pro or 7T?

aaryan45 said:
So What Should I Do? OnePlus 7 Pro or 7T?
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7t has the 855+, not sure a out the pro. There is a pro 7t available

hightech316 said:
7t has the 855+, not sure a out the pro. There is a pro 7t available
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My main concern is that, will 7t get great custom ROM support as other OnePlus phones

aaryan45 said:
My main concern is that, will 7t get great custom ROM support as other OnePlus phones
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Why not? Just wait for twrp development. 7 pro, 7T and 7T pro will have same rom and kernal development as the source is almost same.