G4 SEA Bootloop (Rooted, non-original battery) any options? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Whew boy has this been a troublesome phone. I purchased a new LG G4 off of Amazon January last year. It it had a warranty, it's long expired. I live in the US but mine is a SEA (Singapore) model H815. The serial number starts with 510, which I initially hoped meant it wouldn't bootloop, but it has become obvious even newer models still do it. Now mine has as well.
I tried the hairdryer trick but can't get it to stay on for more than a couple of minutes and bootloops again. Doesn't sound permanent anyways. Doesn't stay on long enough to do anything at all.
As expected, LG support has been no use. When I called (what I assume to be the US support line), they asked for the IMEI and immediately said it wasn't their problem due to the region and I would need to speak with the Amazon seller to get the contact for the right LG branch. I will try that if necessary, but I fully expect to not get anywhere.
To complicate matters, my G4 is rooted (I used the root injection method and still have a locked bootloader). Might make convincing LG to repair even more difficult, assuming I can get that far.
And on top of that, the original official LG battery that came with the phone was defective. It overheated and expanded, it pressed against the display, which now has extreme pink-purple tinted image retention. This fades but is ugly and annoying, though something I can live with (I found an app that seemed to help). I disposed of the original battery immediately (fire/explosion hazard) and replaced it with a TOTHL. Works great, but i'm concerned that it will be another roadblock in getting a repair.
So suffice to say, I have grievances and won't be using LG again (kind of missing my old first gen Galaxy S now). But it sucks to be stuck with an expensive paperweight and I am without a suitable replacement at the moment. Does anyone have any advice for how to approach this situation and possibly get it repaired? Or am I out of luck? I'm not sure whom to contact in this mess, and i'm also not sure if anything can be done given all the complicated factors (rooting, using a third party battery, display issues, it being an international SEA model etc). Any advice would be very appreciated.

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Bootloop hardware failure and LG's incompetent repair

I finally ran into the bootloop problem that is common with early G4's (if you have a serial number that starts with 505, you're basically gonna be screwed at some point). Since it's a hardware issue that LG acknowledges, I sent it back to the factory under warranty, waited for two weeks using my old backup phone, and finally received it back today.
Ready for the fun part? They had repaired something that wasn't broken (kind of like surgery on the wrong body part) and had not touched the bootloop issue! They fixed "No power with cable" by replacing the flash memory. This was never an issue. The frustrating thing is that they didn't even restart the phone to find out if it had been fixed, because if they had it would have gone right back into the bootloop. Arg!
The G4 is now back on route to LG. I said they should give me a new phone, but customer service said they only do that if it cannot be repaired. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they go to the trouble to turn on the phone after "repair" this time.
Thanks for letting me rant!
I have currently my 2nd G4 that has run into this issue. This one has serial number starting with 506, so I guess it might stem a little further into production also. This is driving me nuts, I could not send my phone to LG because of how long it takes so had Verizon send me one and of course I run into the same exact issue with the bootloops. Last time I was able to still flash kdz's, this time won't even go past the LG boot screen. Really wish I could wipe my data at least.
I can attest to LG's incompetence. On March 2nd I sent in my G4 because it was bootlooping. Sent it in no problem, and after about a week I received my G4 back with the problem "fixed" by flashing the memory. Well guess what, it wasn't fixed. As soon as I turned it on, it started to bootloop again. I called LG and they arranged another RMA. Sent it back again, and about a week and a half later, I had my G4 back. This time they "fixed" it by replacing a capacitor. Guess what! Still not fixed. It still continued to bootloop. Called LG extremely angry and filed a complaint. LG arranged another RMA. At this point I had been without my phone for over 20 days. Finally, LG fixed it properly by replacing the motherboard. Now its fixed and it only took them over a month to figure it out.
While I applaud their easy RMA process, whoever the idiots are actually doing the repair are just that.. idiots. Its as if they don't even turn the phone on and ensure it fully boots up before they claim its fixed and ship it back. Whats worse for me is my phone was rooted on VS986B. Got the phone back on Marshmallow 24C and it took the update to 25a overnight. Now I'm stuck with no way of rooting.....
When you get your phone back from LG, chances are it will be on 24C. If you plan on rooting, do so quickly and downgrade.
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I can attest to LG's incompetence. On March 2nd I sent in my G4 because it was bootlooping. Sent it in no problem, and after about a week I received my G4 back with the problem "fixed" by flashing the memory. Well guess what, it wasn't fixed. As soon as I turned it on, it started to bootloop again. I called LG and they arranged another RMA. Sent it back again, and about a week and a half later, I had my G4 back. This time they "fixed" it by replacing a capacitor. Guess what! Still not fixed. It still continued to bootloop. Called LG extremely angry and filed a complaint. LG arranged another RMA. At this point I had been without my phone for over 20 days. Finally, LG fixed it properly by replacing the motherboard. Now its fixed and it only took them over a month to figure it out.
While I applaud their easy RMA process, whoever the idiots are actually doing the repair are just that.. idiots. Its as if they don't even turn the phone on and ensure it fully boots up before they claim its fixed and ship it back. Whats worse for me is my phone was rooted on VS986B. Got the phone back on Marshmallow 24C and it took the update to 25a overnight. Now I'm stuck with no way of rooting.....
When you get your phone back from LG, chances are it will be on 24C. If you plan on rooting, do so quickly and downgrade.
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When they finally replaced the motherboard, did the physical serial number on the phone change?
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When they finally replaced the motherboard, did the physical serial number on the phone change?
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No, that's the same. The board was replaced, but the plastic piece that holds that battery, which is on top of the board, was not replaced.
Happy to report that all is well after the second repair. Came back with 6.0, but I downgraded to 5.1, rooted, and have just about everything working again (can't get Exposed to work, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually). Nothing like spending 3+ weeks on a 2011 Droid Bionic to make me appreciate my G4!
Would one of you care to explain how you contacted LG to set up the repair. I have filled out the online form twice and have never heard a word. Thanks.
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Would one of you care to explain how you contacted LG to set up the repair. I have filled out the online form twice and have never heard a word. Thanks.
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Im not sure if you are in the U.S., but here's their support phone number 800 243-0000. They are usually pretty easy to deal with over the phone.
I am still kicking myself that I didn't downgrade as soon as I got my phone back. I hate not having root anymore.
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No, that's the same. The board was replaced, but the plastic piece that holds that battery, which is on top of the board, was not replaced.
Happy to report that all is well after the second repair. Came back with 6.0, but I downgraded to 5.1, rooted, and have just about everything working again (can't get Exposed to work, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually). Nothing like spending 3+ weeks on a 2011 Droid Bionic to make me appreciate my G4!
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Droid bionic.. I wish! I originally dug up my old Galaxy Nexus, but the battery life was so bad that I swapped it out for my son's old Droid Razr. Of course, I had to safestrap it and put a custom ROM on there because I have a LG G Watch R and android wear was not compatible with the factory software on the Razr. It was a pretty horrible experience overall. I'm glad I have my G4 back, but I really miss root.
You can still downgrade to 5.1 and root. Mine was on the latest version when it came from the factory and I didn't have any problems with the process.
Same thing happened to me. It took 3 RMA's in a row and about 60 days until they finally fixed it. They scratched it, too. OP, I highly recommend you start documenting everything. LG CS will also tell you escalating will get you nowhere; but with persistence you can get a hold of someone. You can only go up to a supervisor, and that's it. LG has specifically designed their CS (including their facebook and twitter) to contain and ignore you.
In less than 1 calendar year i am on my 3rd phone.. Figuring the 1st phone was a flop... serial numbers since my 1st phone are 511 and 505. So yeah.. im debating at what a ticking timebomb i havenow. The 3rd one came w/ MM installed but I downgraded to LL to keep root. Im sure it goes w/o saying that I'll not buy an LG phone ever again.. and this was my 1st one. They could offer to upgrade me to a G5, but honestly there are NO guarantees this sort of thing will happen again. You break trust you pay the price, look at Samsung w/ the no MicroSD card fiasco.
LG just accepted my 15 month old G4 for warranty repair
Even though my phone is 15 months old, LG has accepted it under warranty repair. When requesting repair I wrote that it was the bootloop issue but their repair confirmation states the issue is "No Power with Cable". I hope they fix the correct issue! BTW, my serial number began with 511
The US warranty is 18 months, so LG didn't do you any favors. I have three of these POS phones to get warranty repaired and hope they fix them correctly the first time.
keithfur said:
Even though my phone is 15 months old, LG has accepted it under warranty repair. When requesting repair I wrote that it was the bootloop issue but their repair confirmation states the issue is "No Power with Cable". I hope they fix the correct issue! BTW, my serial number began with 511
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I just got mine back today june 1st 2017, Sent G4 for bootloops 1st time a week ago. No power / Mainboard was replaced. it was purchased november 2015 and Serial number is 511 which is right after the supposed bad batch. I got the phone back in the same great condition it left. The repair guy reported phone condition has minor scratches when it doesn't, Not sure why he would report that. So far its working great, like a new phone. I can only hope this board has been redesigned to not fail under a year and a half, but thats just wishful thinking. Everything was completely free even though phone was like 5months+ after its warranty. Even though costumer service on phone sounded like she was doped out on crack and ignoring all my questions, it was still ez to do and I got it back fast. The IEMI number or whatever was also changed and they put a new sticker over top the old one under the battery. I tried checking the number on that website and it doesn't even have it registered so i can only hope its brand new.
Got a couple of VS986s back from bootloop warranty repair. Mainboards supposedly repaired, but IMEI stayed the same and nothing on label under battery changed . I recall other people mentioned changes to label information.
Last week a representative told me the current warranty on the G4 for this issue is 27 months from date of manufacture or 24 months from date of purchase.
Mine has S/N 508. It started bootlooping while I was pooping (browsing Facebook on Chrome browser) on June 5.
I attempted the hot-air rework station fix 5 times (for processor on mainboard), and that worked on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th tries. Each time the phone worked for up to ~4 hours. On the 5th try the phone no longer booted or even showed the LG logo.
It's en-route to LG right now. I opted to ship it without battery or back cover (my back cover has a wireless charging tag).
Using my old Samsung Galaxy S3 running an AOSP-variant on 4.4.2. Actually isn't a bad phone.
My old LG G2's touchscreen no longer responds to touches on roughly 50% of the screen... can't even unlock it via pattern lock any more.
Thinking LG won't be the next new phone I buy...
Well, my G4 is on its way back to me after LG's warranty repair. Turn-around time at the LG service facility was ONE (1) DAY!! So that was super fast. Should get it tomorrow or the day after. Contemplating putting it back up for sale or trade-in though... it's basically gonna be a virgin device that will require root, xposed, restoring apps/messages/call log/etc., then adjusting everything else to my liking. Would be a shame to do all that work and then the bootlooping problem happens again.

Thinking about the lg g4

I am considering this phone but was wondering how easy it is to root and are there some issues with it? I have been using AT&T galaxys for a while and am tired of their locked bootloader. Is Verizon the best choice or would Tmobile be better? thanks
Don't. Way too many boot loops, and the verizon version can not be unlocked nor rooted, at least on MM.
I wouldn't necessarily say don't buy it. I had a g3 on Verizon that I could fully unlock and do whatever to, and I still bought the g4.
I was a huge fan of the design of the g3, so I wanted something similar to it. The g4 is slightly bigger and taller which is something most people wouldn't like but I do like it.
I've never had any of the boot loop issues and its not difficult to root it. I'm currently running the rooted 13b image from the General section, rooted, and it works perfectly. Has been for a month now!
Still really up to your likes and wants, though.
Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk
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I wouldn't necessarily say don't buy it. I had a g3 on Verizon that I could fully unlock and do whatever to, and I still bought the g4.
I was a huge fan of the design of the g3, so I wanted something similar to it. The g4 is slightly bigger and taller which is something most people wouldn't like but I do like it.
I've never had any of the boot loop issues and its not difficult to root it. I'm currently running the rooted 13b image from the General section, rooted, and it works perfectly. Has been for a month now!
Still really up to your likes and wants, though.
Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk
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I can't really recommend the G4 to anybody anymore. First is the bootloop issue, it's real, mine just failed last week, and I always babied the phone. It's a severe manufacturing defect that affects the majority of phones produced in the first 4 months or so, and to a lesser degree later models as well. Check out the boot loop thread on reddit, it's huge. LG's response to the issue is the worst, since they are not recalling the phone or repairing it no questions asked. They will only repair it if you are within the first 12 months of warranty and have the receipt to proof it. That means if you buy a used one/refurbished one from eBay or so, you are out of luck, even if it's less than 12 months old. If you buy a non-US model, forget, LG will flat out refuse to repair it too. Finally, if your phone has the slightest ding or crack, LG will not repair it, even it has no relation to the boot loop.
Second the OP mentioned he wants to root without lots of troubles. You can only root Lolipop on the Verizon model, no root possible on MM and probably not on Nougat either (whenever that comes out for the G4).
So in theory the G4 is a nice phone when it works, but you are way too likely to run into serious trouble and rooting is severely restricted.
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I can't really recommend the G4 to anybody anymore. First is the bootloop issue, it's real, mine just failed last week, and I always babied the phone. It's a severe manufacturing defect that affects the majority of phones produced in the first 4 months or so, and to a lesser degree later models as well. Check out the boot loop thread on reddit, it's huge. LG's response to the issue is the worst, since they are not recalling the phone or repairing it no questions asked. They will only repair it if you are within the first 12 months of warranty and have the receipt to proof it. That means if you buy a used one/refurbished one from eBay or so, you are out of luck, even if it's less than 12 months old. If you buy a non-US model, forget, LG will flat out refuse to repair it too. Finally, if your phone has the slightest ding or crack, LG will not repair it, even it has no relation to the boot loop.
Second the OP mentioned he wants to root without lots of troubles. You can only root Lolipop on the Verizon model, no root possible on MM and probably not on Nougat either (whenever that comes out for the G4).
So in theory the G4 is a nice phone when it works, but you are way too likely to run into serious trouble and rooting is severely restricted.
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I got a bootlooped g4 on eBay and sent it to lg for repair no questions asked. I get it back Tuesday
Honestly for the money, just get a ONE+ 3
Thanks guys, as usual I didn't realize the extent of the boot looping problem until after I bought it. I have a 30 day guarantee so the first problem and back it goes. thanks for the help. It is clearly a great phone when it works. I have not been thrilled with my s5, my s4 worked better it was just that the battery life as abysmal. I will check out the ONE+3, thanks

Need help!! LG G4(H815) not starting

Hi all,
so here is my problem.
Day before yesterday i had a perfectly working LG g4 H815 model with s/n 511 running on firmware v20h, when i decided to root it and install some mods.
so i flashed TWRP, installed xposed and xtrememusic mod. the phone booted normally after installing these. i didn't install any modules under xposed. the phone worked perfectly for two days. however today morning it hanged while taking photo with the camera app. when restarting it got stuck at LG logo for long time. My brother(who doesn't have any technical knowledge) pulled out the battery and restarted. Again it got stuck at LG logo. thinking somthing wrong he again repeated this only to find that it didn't power on at all this time. No LG logo no notofication light nothing.
Tried charging it(although battery was aroung 60-70%), pressing power button removing the battery. still nothing. the phone is not at all powering up.
However when i connect it with USB cable with laptop, laptop makes sound of getting usb connection detected. i took it to a service centre.
the technical guy there told that IC may have been faulty. he told me that motherboard needs to be replaced. however unofficially he may try heating the IC to get it booting.
What should i do now? Is the IC really fried. had the rooting and installing mod caused it?
Please help.
PS- the phone is imported and cannot be sent back for warranty purpose.
I think you are experiencing the dreaded LG G4 bootloop. I don't think rooting or modding caused a software problem. It "may" have caused a hardware problem simply because it generated enough heat to loosen the IC that little bit that initiates the problems you are describing. I rooted and installed the stock image in Nov 2015. Two weeks ago the phone froze - restarted and then could not be booted. LG sent me a Fedex label and I sent it off. Ten days later I received the same phone back. I assume they replaced the mainboard.
You should contact LG directly. I saw a class action suit that was called off because it appeared that LG will fix this particular problem (failed mainboard) out of warranty. Anyone please correct me on this if I'm wrong.
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I think you are experiencing the dreaded LG G4 bootloop. I don't think rooting or modding caused a software problem. It "may" have caused a hardware problem simply because it generated enough heat to loosen the IC that little bit that initiates the problems you are describing. I rooted and installed the stock image in Nov 2015. Two weeks ago the phone froze - restarted and then could not be booted. LG sent me a Fedex label and I sent it off. Ten days later I received the same phone back. I assume they replaced the mainboard.
You should contact LG directly. I saw a class action suit that was called off because it appeared that LG will fix this particular problem (failed mainboard) out of warranty. Anyone please correct me on this if I'm wrong.
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Hi thanks for the help.
But isn't the dreaded bootloop is that where the phone is stuck at the LG logo. Mine isn't booting at all. And the bootloop problem is due to big cores or such and not due to ic?
Mine wouldn't start at all - it bootlooped once for about a split second - then it was dead
Same is the problem with me. Bootlooped twice and then its completely dead. I have tried contacting Lg UK. Lets see what they say.
Ok so i got a reply from LG and they suggested me some steps to take (which are obviously not useful as it is completely dead). however they have also told me that they are willing to help me and asked me about details of purchase etc and "whether it was rooted".
so what should i reply rooted or not? will they detect it as it is dead.
dbzgoku said:
Ok so i got a reply from LG and they suggested me some steps to take (which are obviously not useful as it is completely dead). however they have also told me that they are willing to help me and asked me about details of purchase etc and "whether it was rooted".
so what should i reply rooted or not? will they detect it as it is dead.
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Sorry to be late on reply. I advise to not answer question whether phone was rooted. Here is my reasoning:
1. This problem is widely occuring - only a tiny percentage of people root their phones therefore question is irrelevant.
2. The problem is known to be that an IC becomes loose most likely due to heat - a better question would be - do you place the phone on a hot dashboard with GPS running while you are charging?
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Sorry to be late on reply. I advise to not answer question whether phone was rooted. Here is my reasoning:
1. This problem is widely occuring - only a tiny percentage of people root their phones therefore question is irrelevant.
2. The problem is known to be that an IC becomes loose most likely due to heat - a better question would be - do you place the phone on a hot dashboard with GPS running while you are charging?
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thanks for the reply (although late). i have already sent the phone to LG replying as no root. Lets hope they repair it without any problems.
second i didnt do anything of anysort like placing on hot dashboard or such. one day while opening the camera app it decided to just hang and later on die on me.
I hope you didn't think I was saying you might have done something that would overheat your phone such as my second example. I was trying to come up with an example reason the IC loosens. Even if you did that the phone should survive such conditions. Let's hope the replacement motherboards somehow do better. My guess is that the soldering job is fine, the problem is probably bad design that doesn't "vent" the heat from chip.
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I hope you didn't think I was saying you might have done something that would overheat your phone such as my second example. I was trying to come up with an example reason the IC loosens. Even if you did that the phone should survive such conditions. Let's hope the replacement motherboards somehow do better. My guess is that the soldering job is fine, the problem is probably bad design that doesn't "vent" the heat from chip.
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so what do you suggest after repair should i keep it or sell it? Lg g4 is no doubt the best phone when considering the value for money. no phone even twice in price comes close in camera and screen quality especially. but the unreliability of this phone has made me to consider selling it as soon as i get it back.
I'd keep it if your new board is high serial
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I'd keep it if your new board is high serial
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Well my old board was also high serial, beginning with 511
I'm going to take my chances - it's a great phone until it bootloops. I'm going to avoid scenarios best I can that could result in the phone heating up inside. That would be charging only if absolutely necessary while in my ProClip dash mount if the car is hot, using backup battery after depletion instead of charging more often etc. Thinking back I rarely put the phone into heat inducing situations - normal use results in the IC becoming loose at the 1 year mark. If mine bootloops exactly a year from now and LG fixes it again I'm an LG fan. If they blow me off no more LG.
I really regret not paying it off early and taking the $15/month deal for an S7 Edge last month
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Well my old board was also high serial, beginning with 511
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I mean like 611 ect thats what i got from lg
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I'm going to take my chances - it's a great phone until it bootloops. I'm going to avoid scenarios best I can that could result in the phone heating up inside. That would be charging only if absolutely necessary while in my ProClip dash mount if the car is hot, using backup battery after depletion instead of charging more often etc. Thinking back I rarely put the phone into heat inducing situations - normal use results in the IC becoming loose at the 1 year mark. If mine bootloops exactly a year from now and LG fixes it again I'm an LG fan. If they blow me off no more LG.
I really regret not paying it off early and taking the $15/month deal for an S7 Edge last month
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Well lg did mention in my communication with them that this carries 2 year warranty.
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I mean like 611 ect thats what i got from lg
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Didn't know that serials have gone so high
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Didn't know that serials have gone so high
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I brought a g4 in the new year sale it has the serial of 611 i had a 601 few months back i returned it ran hot and laggy the 611 one is cool running and lag free so i think something changed

Thinking Of Buying A G4. Two Questions!

Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!
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sspyed said:
Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!
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right now i dont see manny bootloops like before but i say as long as you get a 6xx serial chances are very low. there hasnt been anymore massive reports of bootloops. so make sure you have a phone that in any way you can claim warranty.
only tmobile h811 and some european h815- you need to see wich ones can have bootloader unlocked rest is stock rom. maybe only root. in the case that you are in LP.
Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!
I wouldn't recommend it. My first H815 G4 (S/N 506) bootlooped, after that I got a replacement (bricked phone got stolen while on its way to repairs) with a 512 serial number.
Although anything higher than 510 was said to be "safe", just yesterday evening that replacement H815 G4 bootlooped, as well.
So from my personal experience there don't seem to be "safe serial numbers" and I'd definitely not buy a used phone (as that will probably have only a very short warranty or even none at all).
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Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!
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but make sure the h815 you getting can be bootloader unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-list-lg-g4-variants-unlocked-t3262621
Well for all I've been able to gather - and I was made to read up by my own SN508.. one dying on me - teh internets will make you thing all '15-manufactured (SN5xx) G4's will bootloop sooner or later, the reported expectancy being a year and a day ))) (No kidding here, mine died a year and 2 month, and I wasn't running much of core-heating stuff like games or bloody arsebook app)
The avalanche of reports seem to cut off around SN603, give or take, tho
a) there's a vague talk about refurbs with SN6xx being basically old bootloopers factory-baked
b) have to keep in mind that with the average life expectancy of "a year and a day" there are TWO possible reasons for lack of '16-year bootloop reports:
- LG fixed it
- It's the same ****, only it's time didn't come yet.
I can't help but admit it is an amazing phone while it works. Not to mention the only one of recent flagships (barring g5 of the same) with both replaceable battery and a SD card - a trend I so wanted to support with my buck.
With all the knowledge and experience I have now I'd say this: new one, SN610+, at a bargain price AND with warranty - a buy. Else - skip.

How to Determine The Wear and Use of a Used LG G3

I need to buy a used LG G3 D851 off eBay. I'm trying to determine if there is a way to find out the wear & usage on the G3. Looking at the physical condition of the phone isn't useful (cases & screen protectors protect against wear & tear). After buying (and returning) two broken G3s I've learned that "refurbished" means "we cleaned it with a towel", and that "new" means "a used phone in the original box".
As I understand it the only thing on any mobile phone that really wears is the camera which degrades over time. I thought that there was a hidden menu option that had an entry on how many photos were taken, which would help, but I can't find it.
I was hoping there would be a hidden menu timer or counter somewhere that can tell me how often the phone has been used?
Any hints or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :good:
I have had close to a dozen LG G3s over the last 4 years. I have been trying to find a decent D855, but run into D850s , 851s, LS990s and VS985 for parts.
The biggest problem with these is the poor manufacturing of the components on the motherboard. The phones are dirt simple to take apart and swap parts on, and, by now, you should assume that the phone you are about to buy is not what you think it is.
Like George Washington's axe. Someone swapped the handle, then someone swapped the blade...
If you trust the seller to be honest, get a used one that has had little use and ask the seller if it bootloops, has wifi issues, bluescreen, fadeout...these are all motherboard problems.
Thanks @rs899 that's the problem I've had. In one case I bought what was supposed to be a D851 but it was a screen-locked LS999. Another one had WiFi that didn't work. In every case the phones were advertised as refurbished and "passed our extensive in-house diagnostics".
In every situation I had to file a complaint with eBay to get a refund as the seller was not cooperative.
At this point in the phone's life, it is unreasonable to spend much on these. I myself put a couple of phones together out of parts , used them a few days, and sold them as "used" on ebay fairly cheaply. If anyone complains in 30 days I will have them ship it back and refund them (or just simply refund them). The motherboards are a time bomb. The MBs in the ones I sold may not have been used much and may last for some period of time...or not.
I have a D-851 that I thought was pretty reliable. It has started to forget my wifi. The end may be near for that one.
@rs899 thanks for the info. BTW I have long fingers, and the back buttons on the LG G3 are perfect for me (I looked at the G4 but it is famously unreliable even when new & too big for my needs).
My daily driver is a rooted LG G3 running stock KitKat. I'd like to upgrade to a Marshmallow ROM but I'm nervous about losing functionality on the phone if the upgrade goes bad. So my plan is buy another LG G3 D851 and do the upgrade on that, then transfer my nandroid backup & microSD card to the new one. Maybe I'll give it one more shot on eBay & see if it works out. If you have a d851 for sale DM me your eBay ID & I'll check it out!
I don't have anything for sale right now. I have a D-850 I am playing with and figured out how to put Lineage 17.1 on, but now it drops wifi. I have that D851, but I don't trust it either. A very bad D855. Nothing I would either use or sell to my worst enemy...
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rs899 said:
I don't have anything for sale right now. I have a D-850 I am playing with and figured out how to put Lineage 17.1 on, but now it drops wifi. I have that D851, but I don't trust it either. A very bad D855. Nothing I would either use or sell to my worst enemy...
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You wrote that you replace parts on these G3 phones. Do you know if the ear speaker on the front of the phone loses clarity over time? I'm wondering if I should go through the trouble to replace mine. Thanks

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