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Hello all,
As we know all, there will be the Windows 7 phone series, with the new UI,etc... OK
But, anyone know if there will be a Windows Mobile 7 ?
In fact, a lot of compagny use Windows Mobile 5 or 6 on PDA or NON Phone device, in order to use professionnal application.
I would like to know if Microsoft will release a Windows Mobile 7 in addition to Windows Phone7
Thanks a lot if you have an answer
regards,
Nixeus
I've written about that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634790
In short: The Windows Mobile 7 project is dead. They killed the project about one and a half years ago and started from scratch with what is now Windows Phone OS 7.0.
Wow
I don't understand the Microsoft Choice !!!
How companies will use Mobile system for Non phone ARM device ?
They will need to use non Microsoft system
I'm sad that Windows Mobile is dead
freyberry said:
I've written about that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634790
In short: The Windows Mobile 7 project is dead. They killed the project about one and a half years ago and started from scratch with what is now Windows Phone OS 7.0.
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That's not actually an answer to the question.
There almost certainly will be PNAs etc, as CE6.0 or CE7 will be available. They may not have the WP7 UI, but I don't think you get the UI on any PNA.
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
Since ver 7, the os is no longer called windows mobile; its now called windows phone. but to answer your question, no you can't run desktop applications on windows phone (or windows mobile for that matter) and this is unlikely to change.
That said I'm sure you can find another application to achieve whatever it is that you're after on the marketplace...
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
Well for a lot of people smartphones or tablets can replace computers, most people aren't stockbrokers!
The latest version of Windows Phone is 7.5 Mango, which is currently at RTM stage - i.e. released to OEMs pending approval for new devices and upgrades to existing devices.
The Windows Phone Marketplace can only be accessed via the phone or via the Zune desktop software. The Zune software comes highly recommended from me, it's a very, very good media management software and I can't live without the wireless sync function anymore!
You can browse the marketplace through Zune without owning a Windows Phone device.
Perhaps you could let the community know what it is exactly that you need to do and someone might be able to suggest something?
EDIT: As you're new to smartphones, from a usability perspective Windows Phone 7 would be an excellent choice for you - it is simply brilliant to use, the interface is understated and elegant and the lack of pointless graphics makes it both simple and quick. Microsoft have clearly put massive effort into making Windows Phone highly usable and have surpassed pretty much all expectations, especially with the 7.5 update, which brings in a huge amount of functionality. A lot of people try and put Windows Phone down having never used it, because it's one of those things that needs you to spend 10 minutes with it to understand - but once you've spent 9 minutes with it, everything else just seems ridiculously complicated.
olivespin said:
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
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Silverlight in Windows
Hi
Silverlight apps are currently available in Windows and I think that the concept being put out there at the moment is that Windows 8 will run the same apps as Windows Mobile 8.
Nobody knows if this will become a reality or not.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
olivespin said:
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
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The best thing for you to do would be to find a mobile version of the software you are trying to run. Then get the device that runs that particular software.
The closest you'll come to running your "exact" software on a mobile device is to get a Windows based tablet or laptop. But to run your stock software on a smartphone, you will need the "mobile" version of that software, if it exists.
Also, check to see if your stock-terminal application is web-based. If it is, you may be able to access what you need with ANY smartphone through the smartphone's web browser. That means your "stock terminal" would work on Windows Phone, iPhone, Android, etc.
If your phone is not officially supported by Windows 10 (Lumia 520, 525, 620, 630, 635 (512 MB), 720, 820, 920, 925, 1020, 1320, ...) and you do have Windows 10 installed, do NOT use the WDRT (Windows Device Recovery Tool) which will install Windows 8.x on your device. Since Microsoft no longer offers Windows 10 Threshold releases for unsupported devices in the Release Preview Ring chances are that you'll be unable to update to Windows 10 again.
Further reading:
The gavel has fallen on the Insiders window for W10M for older devices
You can no longer get Windows 10 Mobile on unsupported devices
Of versions and branches - the evolving story of Windows Phone and Windows 10
seems to be a fact since ms introduced the release-preview-ring for redstone. we will see if they offer something like a legacy ring soon
otherwise: still no problem, or lets say still no problem to spoof the devices to get either th2 or redstone
Changing the registry might be beyond users that were only accustomed to joining the Release Preview Ring with the Windows Insider app till now. Some also might not even try out of fear. Thus this warning.
Thanks for the heads up!
Swordfishx86 said:
Changing the registry might be beyond users that were only accustomed to joining the Release Preview Ring with the Windows Insider app till now. Some also might not even try out of fear. Thus this warning.
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thats one of the downsides of the insider-programm. ms let anyone in, thus many many many many people doing stuff they dont know jack**** about. they should have done a simple tech-survey before they let some into the insiderprogramm
Lets go an other route. Instead of keeping people out we should do our best to educate those, that aren't aware of possible side effects and pitfalls. In this sentiment, a call for help: Gather information!
- which devices is WPinternals able to handle?
- what SLB3s are available? Download links?
- Write up a tutorial on how to edit the phones registry using mass storage mode and regedit!
- Gather confirmed info on what unlock methods are available for what RMs!
- Anything to add to the first post? Something to clarify to make it better understandable?
- ...
- ... Profit!
Don't be worry guys, Custom ROMs coming ....
Cool if custom ROMs can be released, but it may be too late for some phones stuck on WP8.1 if they are not hackable. Obviously old Lumias are hackable, but what about 630 for example? Also, some way to install custom ROMs without going back to WP8.1 is sorely needed now.
the 630 for example is no problem either, we dont have any engineering bootloader for it yes. but it has a sd-slot, so no problems to fool around with registry tools to spoof the device id. since its 512mb redstone shouldnt work, but there should be a few devices out which are getting 10 but not redstone as well. so simple spoof it as one of them and get th2 (speaking of the situation next week, right now you could use any "modern" lumia settings to get th2 via upgrade advisor). but no way to build custom roms, thats only supported on 520, 521, 525, 620, 625, 720, 820, 920, 925, 928, 1020 and 1320
Hmmm I used WDRT couple of days back. And now I am stuck with Windows Mobile 8.1. Any chance of getting Windows 10 Mobile back on my L720?
tvk73 said:
Hmmm I used WDRT couple of days back. And now I am stuck with Windows Mobile 8.1. Any chance of getting Windows 10 Mobile back on my L720?
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Yes, you can use wpinternals to unlock the bootloader, gain full filesystem access, and spoof the registry with a phone model supported for W10M. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-phone-8/development/windows-phone-internals-unlock-t3257483
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the 630 for example is no problem either, we dont have any engineering bootloader for it yes. but it has a sd-slot, so no problems to fool around with registry tools to spoof the device id. since its 512mb redstone shouldnt work, but there should be a few devices out which are getting 10 but not redstone as well. so simple spoof it as one of them and get th2 (speaking of the situation next week, right now you could use any "modern" lumia settings to get th2 via upgrade advisor). but no way to build custom roms, thats only supported on 520, 521, 525, 620, 625, 720, 820, 920, 925, 928, 1020 and 1320
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They will replace th2 with rs1. We wont be able to upgrade to W10 using insider or upgrade advisor. We're gonna stuck in WP 8.1 forever.
would you please read my post completely? atm its still possible and in the future it will be still possible to get th2 cause not every device will get the anniversary update (looking at some chinese oem devices). and rs1 runs way better even on ancient devices like the 920 than th2. and right now you still are able to get th2 and back it up with wpinternals if you want to reflash it in the future
tofuschnitte said:
would you please read my post completely? atm its still possible and in the future it will be still possible to get th2 cause not every device will get the anniversary update (looking at some chinese oem devices). and rs1 runs way better even on ancient devices like the 920 than th2. and right now you still are able to get th2 and back it up with wpinternals if you want to reflash it in the future
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Sorry, I didnt mention that I'm talking about 630. I don't think ms will add a new ring like "TH2 for legacy devices" because they really wanna get rid of Nokia devices.
we dont know that, but as i said: there will be still devices which got th2 officially but will not get rs1. u simply need to spoof your device to that. and th2 might be even a needed hop to go from 8.1 to 10 rs1. so dont panic
I have updated my Lumia 630 yesterday from WP 8.1 to W10M following this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...hack-redstone-bulid-lumia-x2x-seires-t3395751
and using Upgrade Advisor
tofuschnitte said:
thats one of the downsides of the insider-programm. ms let anyone in, thus many many many many people doing stuff they dont know jack**** about. they should have done a simple tech-survey before they let some into the insiderprogramm
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Microsoft don't expect divvys to tamper with tools they don't understand , a simple insider upgrade is divvy safe, theres no need for any tech surveys or whatever, theres nothing in the OS that can break the phone, only ppl who decide to play the tools to crack and edit the registry are at risk. You don't need to be an insider to play with those tools either. Think about it. The wdrt is very powerful, you can spoof your phone and model ID if you wish, (NOT RECOMMENDED FOR DIVVYS) downside of that is ...loading an OS that could be slightly modified and potentially brick your device
Microsoft clarification
Earlier this year when we launched Windows 10 Mobile, we announced a series of changes to Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Program, including details of our launch of Windows 10 Mobile as well as changes to the supported Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview devices.
With the upcoming release of the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, the Release Preview ring is moving to Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview build 14393. This change will have some impact on unsupported device:
As stated before, unsupported devices will not receive any builds or updates newer than 10586.x
Unsupported devices will not be able to select any Windows Insider Preview rings in the Windows Insider app
Updates to apps and services may not be available for unsupported devices and in some cases may limit certain experiences
Unsupported devices can still use the Windows Device Recovery Tool to recover to Windows Phone 8.1, but will not have the option to return to Windows 10 Mobile.
As always, we appreciate our Insiders and thank you for your participation in the Windows Insider Program.
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from http://mspoweruser.com/can-no-longer-get-windows-10-mobile-unsupported-devices/
Thank for sharing
BlueTR said:
Sorry, I didnt mention that I'm talking about 630. I don't think ms will add a new ring like "TH2 for legacy devices" because they really wanna get rid of Nokia devices.
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Hey, I have a lumia 630 with 8.1 on it but how could i edit it's registry? If i use CustomWPSystem i can't move extras & info into the sdcard, and Mixradio is not on the store anymore.... Could you help me finding somethig? I really want to edit the registry, and/or get windows 10 mobile.
Thanks, Sznabi
Hi!
I wanna run Raspberry with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise. Is this possible?
I'm looking for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise download link. I search almost 3 hours but i couldn't find Iot Mobile Enterprise iso or something else.
Help please! Thank you.
It doesn't released yet (still).
[email protected]@f said:
It doesn't released yet (still).
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But what about https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsforbusiness/windows-iot ?
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows 10 that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. It is designed for powerful industry devices used in retail, manufacturing, healthcare, and other industries. Note: Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is a binary equivalent to Windows 10 Enterprise.
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morphinz said:
I'm looking for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise
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morphinz said:
Hi!
I wanna run Raspberry with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise. Is this possible?
I'm looking for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise download link. I search almost 3 hours but i couldn't find Iot Mobile Enterprise iso or something else.
Help please! Thank you.
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technically you can try integrate drivers from iot in to w10m and run efi boot loader on rpi2. I want try do this but I don't have rpi2, I have only rpi zero((
PS How I know w10m kernel can print errors in com port. it's can be useful...
@[email protected]@f, but he wants to run it on RPi (I believe "Raspberry" means "Raspberry Pi 2 or 3"), not a Windows Phone
P.S. I tried to run W10 IoT Core on my RPi 2 but got stuck on the "rainbow" screen (I believe it's a GPU test routine, OS loader wasn't executed at all).
@sensboston RPi is ARM, not x86
God damn it, I don't want to live in world where people have RPi but doesn't even know to what architecture its processor belongs. I live in country where buying bread is a problem.
@[email protected]@f, I don't understand you at all, what is your point? Windows 10 IoT Core runs on RPi 2/3 (arm CPU), the guy is looking (for some unknown reasons) for Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise, the OS designed (according to MS) for the mobile phones.
So, the question wasn't correct; for "Raspberry" he needs a "Windows 10 IoT Core" (arm based), which one freely available on MS site.
And MS already released W10 IoT Enterprise but not for the arm CPU's.
P.S.
God damn it, I don't want to live in world where people have RPi but doesn't even know to what architecture its processor belongs. I live in country where buying bread is a problem.
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And that your statement is STUPID and OFFENSIVE.
@sensboston, If you didn't understand still, Windows 10 IoT Enterprise has nothing with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise. All your posts was unrelated to the topic. Why you even mentioned Windows 10 IoT Enterprise if you know that 1 - its the same as Windows 10 Enterprise, 2 - Windows 10 Enterprise have no ARM version and never will (as well as Windows 10 IoT Enterprise), 3 - RPi is ARM device.
And you continue argue that guy need Windows 10 IoT Enterprise because he have RPi, so he doesn't need Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise (while its only ARM OS from IoT series with shell, even though it unreleased yet). Your statements are absurd.
@[email protected]@f, nobody promised that Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise should support RPi! This version of Windows 10 can't run on Raspberry Pi devices at all. Do you understand this?
Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise is a direct relative of Windows 10 Mobile OS (powering Windows Phones) which is in turn tracing it’s roots to Windows 8 Phone and all the way back to Windows CE. Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise is built to power enterprise mobile, handheld devices (like these barcode scanners used in warehouses to quickly identify and sort goods). Being a Windows Mobile relative, this OS can only run Windows Universal applications, no support for classic desktop applications.
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And I said, this guy needs Windows 10 IoT Core in my previous message.
P.S. JFYI, Microsoft already released "Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise" a long time ago but it's not available for general public (only for specific MSDN subscribers and partners).
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-updates-windows-10-iot-adds-new-core-pro-version/
Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise, Version 1511 is now available to MSDN subscribers. The download file is 611KM as the image includes only the XML file that you have to deploy on any Windows 10 Mobile device to turn on the Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise features on it. There is no full image in the case of phone as it is delivered as an OTA (over the air) update," a Microsoft spokesperson confirmed.
The Enterprise version of Windows 10 Mobile ultimately will include a number of the same enterprise features that Windows 10 Enterprise does. As the slide embedded above from Microsoft's recent Ignite Australia conference mentioned, the Enterprise Data Protection functionality won't be available in final form until summer 2016.
Microsoft is positioning Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise as being suited for industry devices like ATMs, retail point of sale and handheld terminals. Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise is for Windows Phones and small Intel and ARM tablets.
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@sensboston, Again, you miss the point. Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise has nothing with Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise
Maybe you should google first some about topic before posting. Google Windows IoT editions at least.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69064635&postcount=136
@[email protected]@f, have you ever read what I posted here?! Show me the damn word "Raspberry PI"!
Microsoft is positioning Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise as being suited for industry devices like ATMs, retail point of sale and handheld terminals. Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise is for Windows Phones and small Intel and ARM tablets.
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Sorry, I don't want to waste my time for the newbies like you anymore.
P.S. To the topic starter only (to be in topic): it's NOT POSSIBLE, there is no such a thing like Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise for Raspberry Pi, it's NOT EXIST! You can't get portable Windows 10 device able to run GUI UWP apps for $35 RPi. What you can get: working Windows 10 IoT Core without GUI.
Guys i think i have what you want
Check this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wi...dows-phone-windows-10-mobile-surface-t3365743
@sensboston I don't know from where you took this quote (when you post quote it's good practice to link to the source, to not seem like ranter), but Microsoft officially didn't announced or someway positioned Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise, because it doesn't released yet.
And @Ferrybigger post just ruined all your argumentation about that Windows Phone couldn't be run on ARM or whatever you want (FYI Surface RT runs on Tegra 3). Microsoft never promised that Windows Phone could be run on Surface RT. But it does. Who is amateur now?
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@sensboston I don't know from where you took this quote (when you post quote it's good practice to link to the source, to not seem like ranter), but Microsoft officially didn't announced or someway positioned Windows 10 IoT Mobile Enterprise, because it doesn't released yet.
And @Ferrybigger post just ruined all your argumentation about that Windows Phone couldn't be run on ARM or whatever you want (FYI Surface RT runs on Tegra 3). Microsoft never promised that Windows Phone could be run on Surface RT. But it does. Who is amateur now?
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Well I can tell you who I think has the comprehension problem, and it's the person that keeps saying "it doesn't released yet."
It has been released, and it is the same as Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise. (edit: see page 5 of this PDF: ah, I can't post links, yet. google Create your Industry device with Windows 10 IoT and it's the first link.)
Also, I think we're talking about official ways to do it, not unofficial ways that Microsoft might patch in the future. Besides, ARM devices are not all the same. What runs on a Tegra might not run on a Raspberry Pi. For example, a Tegra 3 runs the ARMv7 architecture, while the Raspberry Pi 3 runs ARMv8-A architecture. Those are very different things, though some compatibility does exist between them.
So, Microsoft just announced Windows 10 on ARM. But not just some stripped down, Windows Phone/RT variant, like W10M. This is full Windows 10.
It also has support for the full x86 win32 library of applications, with some emulation magic that they put in, which appears to run blazingly fast somehow.
What an incredible feat this emulation is.
But my question is: What does this mean for us, Windows RT users?
I want to put this in the Windows RT Development and Hacking section, but I haven't made enough posts n stuff
Nothing at all. The announcement is Windows 10 for ARM64, which is of no use to Windows RT devices, that use 32-bit ARM v7.
I am hoping this will mean a new non-Pro Surface with Windows 10 ARM will be coming. But yeah, nothing for Windows RT devices.
:<
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Nothing at all. The announcement is Windows 10 for ARM64, which is of no use to Windows RT devices, that use 32-bit ARM v7.
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Shame. But is there a possible way that we could maybe make it run? How different is the architecture? How hard would it be? Would they make an edition for ARM32?
Our WinRT tablets are finished with when it comes to any further work.
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