Hey guys.
Just want to know your thoughts about ROM performance in terms of smoothness on different roms.
I was a long time user of tylers RR build and it was really fluid.
Now i am back on Imperium since a month (because of camera) and its overall UI performance is worse that RR.
Can you please give me some thoughts about your experience in UI/ROM peformance on Rom/builds?
thx
pOpY
popy2006 said:
Hey guys.
Just want to know your thoughts about ROM performance in terms of smoothness on different roms.
I was a long time user of tylers RR build and it was really fluid.
Now i am back on Imperium since a month (because of camera) and its overall UI performance is worse that RR.
Can you please give me some thoughts about your experience in UI/ROM peformance on Rom/builds?
thx
pOpY
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Well I'm not surprised you experience worse UI performance on Stock based ROMs, overall in my experience the UI performance in AOSP Custom ROMs is way more fluid and smoother, but the performance in apps is slower than in Stock based ROMs. A bit longer load times, less frame rate's but a more stable frame rate in games and a bit less responsive after a long period of use. For me the camera performance and photo and video quality on Stock based ROMs outweighs AOSP ROMs and that keeps me close to Stock. I have used Dualboot Patcher for a while so I could use AOSP ROMs as my primary ROM and and a Stock based ROM as my secondary ROM so I could still enjoy a fluid and smooth UI and the camera performance of Stock when needed. I really dislike the micro stutters I experience on Stock, especially when I'm scrolling. But I dislike my phone getting slow after a long period of usage even more, which forces me to reboot my phone regularly. So because of that I am running a Stock based ROM as my primary ROM for now.
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Well I'm not surprised you experience worse UI performance on Stock based ROMs, overall in my experience the UI performance in AOSP Custom ROMs is way more fluid and smoother, but the performance in apps is slower than in Stock based ROMs. A bit longer load times, less frame rate's but a more stable frame rate in games and a bit less responsive after a long period of use. For me the camera performance and photo and video quality on Stock based ROMs outweighs AOSP ROMs and that keeps me close to Stock. I have used Dualboot Patcher for a while so I could use AOSP ROMs as my primary ROM and and a Stock based ROM as my secondary ROM so I could still enjoy a fluid and smooth UI and the camera performance of Stock when needed. I really dislike the micro stutters I experience on Stock, especially when I'm scrolling. But I dislike my phone getting slow after a long period of usage even more, which forces me to reboot my phone regularly. So because of that I am running a Stock based ROM as my primary ROM for now.
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thx a lot for your feedback!
Thats a good idea with dualboot patcher, but (for me) not really practical
Your experiences coincide with mine!
In my case i also had thermal issues with AOSP roms -> cpu runs hotter quickly than on stock.
Did you also experienced such a behaviour?
Which AOSP rom do you use?
And which do you think has the best (UI) performance?
thx
pOpY
popy2006 said:
thx a lot for your feedback!
Thats a good idea with dualboot patcher, but (for me) not really practical
Your experiences coincide with mine!
In my case i also had thermal issues with AOSP roms -> cpu runs hotter quickly than on stock.
Did you also experienced such a behaviour?
Which AOSP rom do you use?
And which do you think has the best (UI) performance?
thx
pOpY
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No problem! :good:
Oh, for me the CPU on AOSP ROMs actually ran a bit cooler and heated up less quickly than on Stock. Although my G4 never really runs that hot even on Stock. And I forgot to mention that I get better battery life both in stand by time and average SOT while running a AOSP based Custom ROM.
At the moment I run a Stock based ROM on my G4 but I have used CyanogenMod till it's end and it's successor Lineage OS which it's pretty much the same but under a new name . I've also tried other ROMs but most of them where based on CM and are based on Lineage OS and they pretty much performed more or less the same. So no big differences.
That's why i do not use any more customs roms...
It's on the decline !
I agree with you !
-camera and video quality lost
-lost performance after a long usage
-lost customer patent and innovation
-lost the pure performance on games
-the modem is not as well as exploited as customers firmwares (sometime bad network quality on customs)
-always minors buggs and sometime big buggs
-near all devellopers wait for Lineage source (Lineage spend 1 year to build an android version and it's never "perfect"....and lots of merges,abandon,clean... on their source all the time,it's never stable and finished)
- on RR,DU...etc....you remove design customizations and you see an empty poor rom
-you loose FM radio function and there never have had effort by the dev for to port an alternative like spirit-fm radio (this dev have had big succes with some very difficult phones ,and som LG)
-you have much more chance than stock to have battery drain with some system process (the main cause of stocks firmwares drain is the google apps ! )
Maybe a custom rom is good for low and some middle-end devices (principaly for to have a light rom.....and hardwares are not the best on these devices ) but completely useless for hight-end device like G4...that's my opinion !
I use a MM firmware + simpleGX 2.0.3 kernel and i'm very happy ! Very good...
Loulou-13 said:
That's why i do not use any more customs roms...
It's on the decline !
I agree with you !
-camera and video quality lost
-lost performance after a long usage
-lost customer patent and innovation
-lost the pure performance on games
-the modem is not as well as exploited as customers firmwares (sometime bad network quality on customs)
-always minors buggs and sometime big buggs
-near all devellopers wait for Lineage source (Lineage spend 1 year to build an android version and it's never "perfect"....and lots of merges,abandon,clean... on their source all the time,it's never stable and finished)
- on RR,DU...etc....you remove design customizations and you see an empty poor rom
-you loose FM radio function and there never have had effort by the dev for to port an alternative like spirit-fm radio (this dev have had big succes with some very difficult phones ,and som LG)
-you have much more chance than stock to have battery drain with some system process (the main cause of stocks firmwares drain is the google apps ! )
Maybe a custom rom is good for low and some middle-end devices (principaly for to have a light rom.....and hardwares are not the best on these devices ) but completely useless for hight-end device like G4...that's my opinion !
I use a MM firmware + simpleGX 2.0.3 kernel and i'm very happy ! Very good...
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thx for your input!
Which MM Firmware do you use?
thx
The last MM for my country, v20i "France" ...rooted with simpleGX kernel...
Loulou-13 said:
The last MM for my country, v20i "France" ...rooted with simpleGX kernel...
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Lineage os now is for old phone to revive them [emoji41]
Loulou-13 said:
The last MM for my country, v20i "France" ...rooted with simpleGX kernel...
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Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk
Now using Imperium v13 with SimpleGX Kernel, that combo is really good from performance view
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There's a lot of AOSP rom on the internet, but the most rom looks the same for me. I don't see too much difference between CM based roms and I have really bad battery life.
Than I tried Mokee 5.1.1 (MK51.1-d855-150609-RELEASE.zip) and I'm surprised. With this rom I have the same (or close to same) battery life like stock rom (V20P).
Only one little thing is bother me. The antutu benchmark ponts is only around 38k but I can reach 40k with stock and 42k with BlissPop.
Any idea how can I increase the performance in Mokee? I really hate the laggy navigation in stock rom and I hate the overheating AOSP roms too, so this one is my only hope.
My phone: d855
conan513 said:
There's a lot of AOSP rom on the internet, but the most rom looks the same for me. I don't see too much difference between CM based roms and I have really bad battery life.
Than I tried Mokee 5.1.1 (MK51.1-d855-150609-RELEASE.zip) and I'm surprised. With this rom I have the same (or close to same) battery life like stock rom (V20P).
Only one little thing is bother me. The antutu benchmark ponts is only around 38k but I can reach 40k with stock and 42k with BlissPop.
Any idea how can I increase the performance in Mokee? I really hate the laggy navigation in stock rom and I hate the overheating AOSP roms too, so this one is my only hope.
My phone: d855
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I also enjoyed Mokee and was disappointed in antutu score so would also be interested in recommendations AICP is also good AOSP rom with many features that you may enjoy if you have not already tested
Will_Xda said:
I also enjoyed Mokee and was disappointed in antutu score so would also be interested in recommendations AICP is also good AOSP rom with many features that you may enjoy if you have not already tested
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Thanks for the tip. I'm currently testing it and I think I like it, but I got less score in antutu than mokee.
I'm trying to optimize it.
Another question:
is possible to change the double tap delay? my phone was always unlocked in my pocket.
Hi guys. I just bought a GX8-RIO-L03C69B004, one SIM and 2gb Ram (16Gb inner storage). I'm happy with the design and photo quality, etc. Battery duration: its a dream come true. But I have to say that I'm not happy at all with general performance. My Gs4 with GPE JFLTE 5.1 ROM made by @devth rocks in speed and performance so much more!!! I don't feel that octacore at all!!. Also the official Android M update has not been released here in Mexico so I can test if EMUI 4 performs better.
Because all the above, I really want to try a custom ROM to see if the phone works faster without EMUI. I don't like CM roms because they are super buggy, camera-wifi problems all the time, they are not just what I expect from a custom ROM. I see PAC ROM doesn't support my device. I'm wondering if you guys can suggest me a nice ROM which is 5.1.1 Lollipop or even better: Marshmallow! The things I would expect are:
-Excellent battery duration (as equal as the actual duration or better!)
-Better speed and performance in multitasking or general usage of apps and services
-IDEAL: The option to have updates to escalate to Android Marshmallow sooner than later
-MANDATORY: No camera, wifi or modem bugs or connetivity problems!!
This is my first Huawei so I'm not familiar with any custom rom for this device out there. I'll really appreciate any recommendation about this. Thanks and have a nice day!
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so for the usual "this month's" question...i suggest freedom ce and experience os. tho each of them have their own quirk, but it's stable. maybe the issues's with me, but some custom rom really have some daily usage/stability problem like dialer app crashing or alarm not ringing while they list the rom as "bugs free". obviously i have not tried all the roms or done extensive performance testing on them, so this is just my opinion.
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Please post your opinion thank you!
I personally don't use OOS since ages because of the terrible android system drain I got back then. Not sure how it is now but I basically fell in love with VertexOS. VertexOS has been the stablest rom I have tried. Even the Testbuilds on the Slack channel are really stable. The dev definitely knows what he is doing and is putting blood sweat and tears into optimizing the rom. if you are looking for a stable minimalistic rom, with great peformance and decent battery life Vertex is the way to go.
You can basically never go wrong with a Sultan rom
I sugest Sultans Nougat build(if you want theming through Substratum use Matssas builds, for me it was just as stable). Other then that AOSPA, although I sugest you wait for the next build since high idle drain is a known issue.
Both Sultan and AOSPA is known for high quality camera by custom rom standard.
Phoenix aex is the best right now. Best performance and battery life without any modifications
Go with ...Phoenix AOSP ?
Yep, Phoenix AES.
Sultanxda lineage OS is working perfectly.
Have tried RR, Phoenix, Freedom and a couple of more.. Loved all of them to be honest.. But felt experience lite was the best of them..
Yup.. Just a personal opinion..
try Paranoid Android, tons of features, great battery life and (ALMOST) bug free and stable, but keep in mind that OxygenOS or OxygenOS based roms have the most stability ...
Using freedom os + bluspark kernel + akt hawkpepper! Moderate use but too much of voice and duo calls! This combo is perfect one
And full day wifi on! Plus when not using wifi, 4G was on!
I've personally been using vertex for a few weeks now with a gapp prop tailored just to my liking for adding in just stuff I want and debloating of things I never use to clear up wasted space and absolutely love the current setup. Minimal, battery friendly, and zero issues with stability.
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Hello i'd like to change my rom for my F3 i don't feel the smoothness that much in stock miui its good tbh serving me well but i want some good fluid ui with amazing battery life and performance should i install miui eu? or other roms such as Arrow os i don't really care about the customization my prio is Good performance and atleast same sot as stock im having 5hrs in gaming while 8-10 hours when browsing social media
Kirxshi said:
Hello i'd like to change my rom for my F3 i don't feel the smoothness that much in stock miui its good tbh serving me well but i want some good fluid ui with amazing battery life and performance should i install miui eu? or other roms such as Arrow os i don't really care about the customization my prio is Good performance and atleast same sot as stock im having 5hrs in gaming while 8-10 hours when browsing social media
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Yes than you want EU Rom or basically stock streamlined I have the 8gb of ram and I get about 713000 on AnTuTu and anywhere from 500k to 670k on custom ROMs. There are other stock based ROMs but EU is by far the most popular. I don't game but 8 to 10 hours browsing sounds about normal on all the custom ROMs. If you want honesty I have been flashing custom ROMs and kernels for about 5 years and I have even made a couple lineage ROMs back In Oreo days. I stopped listening to all the hype alot of it is just nonsense I've never flashed a custom kernel that gets better performance and better battery life than stock. I used to think it was possible and it's really not. You will need a better cpu to have real differences. EU is better than regular stock so try that and if your still not happy try evolution x a12 or descendant a12 Rom. Those are my 3 picks.
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Yes than you want EU Rom or basically stock streamlined I have the 8gb of ram and I get about 713000 on AnTuTu and anywhere from 500k to 670k on custom ROMs. There are other stock based ROMs but EU is by far the most popular. I don't game but 8 to 10 hours browsing sounds about normal on all the custom ROMs. If you want honesty I have been flashing custom ROMs and kernels for about 5 years and I have even made a couple lineage ROMs back In Oreo days. I stopped listening to all the hype alot of it is just nonsense I've never flashed a custom kernel that gets better performance and better battery life than stock. I used to think it was possible and it's really not. You will need a better cpu to have real differences. EU is better than regular stock so try that and if your still not happy try evolution x a12 or descendant a12 Rom. Those are my
Techguy777 said:
Yes than you want EU Rom or basically stock streamlined I have the 8gb of ram and I get about 713000 on AnTuTu and anywhere from 500k to 670k on custom ROMs. There are other stock based ROMs but EU is by far the most popular. I don't game but 8 to 10 hours browsing sounds about normal on all the custom ROMs. If you want honesty I have been flashing custom ROMs and kernels for about 5 years and I have even made a couple lineage ROMs back In Oreo days. I stopped listening to all the hype alot of it is just nonsense I've never flashed a custom kernel that gets better performance and better battery life than stock. I used to think it was possible and it's really not. You will need a better cpu to have real differences. EU is better than regular stock so try that and if your still not happy try evolution x a12 or descendant a12 Rom. Those are my 3 picks.
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if there is someone will tell me their review about the evo x i might use that since i like to try some near stock android experience but if eu is better than evo then i'll go with eu
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No Evo X works great I like I'm thinking about going back to it but I can't be sure it plays games. I've heard about people having gaming problems on AOSP based ROMs it is more of the stock Android which I like to because Xiaomi has different settings and I always get lost so yeah I prefer stock Android too. You definitely won't get performance and a12 anx camera module for magisk doesn't work it does on Android 11 though. You'll also have to decrypt your data on a12 so twrp can read your internal. The phone has a lot of catches to it I would definitely recommend that you have the My flash tool and the stock firmware downloaded and ready to go in case you need to fast boot and flash your stock again cuz it does get confusing and you probably will soft break a couple times
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.
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If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.
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They also clearly copy some UI Design from iOS
which is not bad... It looks good.
But my biggest problem with MIUI is that, it breaks standard Android features.
Like broken Gestures on 3rd-Party Launchers.
Or the MIUI Permission-system breaking apps like Instagram.
or MIUI's battery optimisation being too extreme...
I don't hate MIUI, but it's 很胖 (very fat)
Custom ROMs are not bad per se, but they are made for ppl who want their phone to run without gving it too much thought. MIUI is not the worst Stock ROM imho, but clearly made for John D. Noob.
If you debloat MIUI, you can get along with it if you don't need to much customization.
Btw, battery is usually best on stock ROMS in my experience.
But if you want real control over your phone, or need features that the manufacturer doesn't want you to have, you deffo need a custom ROM.
Also, you need to take into account that a manufacturer doesn't earn a penny for giving out updates and patches, so they tend to keep their fuzz to a minimum.
I usually move away from a stock rom as updates are slow to arrive.
When i was looking for a upgrade for my LG G7, i settled for the F3 because it was Very good value for money, was easy to unlock and had great Dev support on XDA.
For me the other downside of a MIUI stock rom apart from the bloat ware and slow updates, was not being able to use my Samsung Smartwatch as a trusted device, as Miui Stock would only permit Xiaomi devices.
Switching to the Evo-X rom, gave me back all the functionality I needed and is fast enough for me.
tanukitanuki said:
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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custom roms, nah
custom modifications, yes
you can reach same or more performance on stock, if you just modify it
most or all custom roms are modified by the rom dev ofcourse, that is why its got better performance than stock
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I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about
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Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about
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dont go around dissing devs without knowing anything about them
pretty sure devs hired by big companies like xiaomi would know about optimizations better than any custom rom dev
when custom rom devs start making bug free roms, go around dissing stock devs as you like
If you have a sub-flagship or flagship device it doesn't matter if that's a Xiaomi or not changing your rom into custom rom is kinda useless, because the stock rom is good enough and more stable(not 100% stable) and if you longing for more performance for flashing an AOSP base rom it's kinda useless base on my experience because it only increases like 1-2% in pure stock no modifications especially in Poco F3.
For me AOSP roms are only good for midrange and lowend devices, i have spare phone here it's RN8 and i changed my rom from MIUI to AOSP and the difference is night and day my mind is blown to the ram management.
From the first day i was in ArrowOS because Miui roms was a little poor in performance, not so much fast like AOSP roms, but one day i tried one of the last stable Miui EU roms and i was impressed how good became, sound and haptics it's just much better than AOSP, autobrightness works as intended, camera it's better that Gcam and SOT it's (in my use, the same).
So i'm with the last comment, in Poco F3 i think the last MIUI EU for example isn't bad, phone runs well and all works. Just tried the last Stable MIUI 13 and now the MIUI 14 EU beta build and i think it's a little more smooth than previous build.
I think any phone with A13 will run smoother than A12.1 builds, in my old Mi A1 just noticed that (and it's too old).
Wmbruckner said:
Also, you need to take into account that a manufacturer doesn't earn a penny for giving out updates and patches, so they tend to keep their fuzz to a minimum.
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Nah, dude.
They took money in advance for that. On the other hand, people buy pixel devices because they have updates guaranteed.
They do earn money from it indirectly. A lot. Otherwise it wouldn't have been a thing.