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[Q] What ROM To Use?

I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?

i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for

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bamboo12 said:
you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.

DroidBois said:
I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide

^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to

i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...

anotherdroid said:
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?

In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff

I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all

Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?

The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM

faraon83 said:
Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
Sent from my HTC Desire

He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.

[Q] 10.1 for Arc S LT18i

Hi.
I can find the Alpha CM10.1 in dev section for PRO. Was wondering if there is a stable 10.1 for the ARC S LT18i or any JB based ROM for that matter?
On that note, would you consider the CM10 and ICS based ROM's to be stable? As in daily driver worthy?
Not asking "which ROM is best" etc... rather just asking if you consider them as stable, in general. I am considering UltimaHD even thought it's ICS based, but really wanted to go up to JB if there is anything stable and worthy out there. I don't really care if it's AOKP, AOSP or Stock based.

Pitbull_Raven said:
Hi.
I can find the Alpha CM10.1 in dev section for PRO. Was wondering if there is a stable 10.1 for the ARC S LT18i or any JB based ROM for that matter?
On that note, would you consider the CM10 and ICS based ROM's to be stable? As in daily driver worthy?
Not asking "which ROM is best" etc... rather just asking if you consider them as stable, in general. I am considering UltimaHD even thought it's ICS based, but really wanted to go up to JB if there is anything stable and worthy out there. I don't really care if it's AOKP, AOSP or Stock based.
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Yes, there is, use the Search tool. Then go read the topic and you will find a lot of information about the ROM from people, who have actually used it.

Someguyfromhell said:
Yes, there is, use the Search tool. Then go read the topic and you will find a lot of information about the ROM from people, who have actually used it.
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Oh, joy! A snarky reply! How wonderful. But you are right. I should have considered that "search" button in the firs.... Wait a God damn minute! I DID!
As opposed to your usual noob, I actually took the time to search. My research (although I am sure flawed) is what led me to conclude that maybe UltimaHD would be the best choice for me. Also, I found numerous ROMs. Searching for 4.1.2 in titles only returned a bucketload of results for ICS ROMs (yes, that's right... you can even try it if you want). In those I did find mention to 1 MIUI ROM and 1 [rom][update jb][4.1.2]arc/s v06. MIUI is not something I'm interested in using right now. The second, I can't quite figure out if it's a daily driver or not. Also, many of the ROMs seem to be ICS/JB mixes.
The ARC S is not my phone. I have a SIII. I'm trying to compile the necessary info to decide what ROM to flash on the device (which actually belongs to my wife). Not having much time to flash as many ROMs as I do on my SIII, I thought maybe I'd rather ask the people that have actually used and tested available ROMs, rather than flashing one now and having my wife tell me it's no good a few days later and having to do it all over again. So far I have managed to figure out how to unlock bootloader (I hope, because I'll only be doing it tomorrow evening), root the device using flashtool (still not sure if it'll work on stock 4.0.4 but from what I have read so far, I gather it will), and flash a recovery. Am still a bit unclear on all the boot.img flashing that goes on and why it's necessary. Seems to me this has to do with the data partition. Of course I could be wrong.
So again, sorry if I "didn't" use the search button first. I'll try and not have it happen again. Oh, and thanks so much for the help. /end sarcasm
Jeeezzzzz I am so sick and tired of everyone just assuming we don't search before asking questions. Have you ever stopped to consider the reasons behind the questions? No disrespect, dude, I can see you are a senior member and have a really nice post count. I'm sure you have made valuable contributions to this community. But just assuming stuff doesn't really suit you.

Pitbull_Raven said:
Oh, joy! A snarky reply! How wonderful. But you are right. I should have considered that "search" button in the firs.... Wait a God damn minute! I DID!
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To be fair, having read your post I have to wonder why the need to start a new thread, especially when you still have THIS one going.
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Jeeezzzzz I am so sick and tired of everyone just assuming we don't search before asking questions. Have you ever stopped to consider the reasons behind the questions? No disrespect, dude, I can see you are a senior member and have a really nice post count. I'm sure you have made valuable contributions to this community. But just assuming stuff doesn't really suit you.
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Again, I didn't quite understand the point of starting a new thread so myself found it annoying to see you asking what you have, "Not asking "which ROM is best" etc", not directly you might not be but essentially, it is what you're asking, and some of us are sick of seeing such threads posted and this sums up why...
eagleeyetom said:
I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
Just my 3 grosz.
Thanks!
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As this isn't you're Phone, as I said on my other thread, root, remove bloatware and tweak a stock ROM.

XperienceD said:
To be fair, having read your post I have to wonder why the need to start a new thread, especially when you still have THIS one going.
Again, I didn't quite understand the point of starting a new thread so myself found it annoying to see you asking what you have, "Not asking "which ROM is best" etc", not directly you might not be but essentially, it is what you're asking, and some of us are sick of seeing such threads posted and this sums up why...
As this isn't you're Phone, as I said on my other thread, root, remove bloatware and tweak a stock ROM.
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Yes, you are right. I still have another thread going. But I didn't want to muddy the waters. I want to keep it separate. The focus of this thread was to understand if there is a working, for daily use, JB ROM out there. For ICS I am already pretty convinced Ultimate is the way to go as far as what I am looking for. Your reply in the other thread was most appreciated and was actually what I had considered, before I got the "go ahead" from the wife. Again, thanks for the tip. But now the circumstances have changed and flashing a ROM is now an option. For this reason I am just trying to figure out if I should opt for aosp 4.1.2, 4.2.1 or CM 10(.1) based on user experience when it comes to stability and broken features or bugs. I do not need anyone to tell me which ROM is best. I have already been told to avoid "which ROM is best" threads and I intend to do as told. But honest to God that's not what I want here. Just opinions regarding aosp 4.1.2, 4.2.1 or CM 10(.1). In general. Don't need anyone saying X rom is better or whatnot. And I am terribly sorry if this is how it came across. As for trying ROM's, I'm all for it. I have Obsessive Rom Disorder myself and am a total flashaholic. I flash ROMs to my phones like every other day at the latest. But as you pointed out my other thread, you can see that flashing dozens of roms to the ARC is not an option. I am trying to find what is or isn't stable so I can decide on the path to go, and then choose a ROM based on that. Imagine I flash 4.1.2 only to find it FC's a lot using camera app or whatever. Or that wifi is unstable and she really relies on wifi daily for work. Or anything else. I check the ROM threads for known bugs, but many a rom here on XPERIA ARC sub-forums don't list bugs, either because they have non, or because OP's don't post them. I tend to think it's probably the former and not the latter, but since I am quite used to seeing some sort of buglist, I am not sure and so, of course, hesitant.
Please, please don't think I mean to be disrespectful. Or rude. Or just plain annoying. It's just that I really can't afford to get this wrong. I need to get this right first time round (or at least within the first couple of tries) so my wife can continue to work with the phone and not come to me saying "this and that don't work".
I appreciate the community. I have learned a whole lot from you guys. I support devs when I can through donations (small for sure, but I tend to donate what I can afford from time to time). And I answer whenever I think I can help and contribute. It's just I get so annoyed when I see people just assuming I didn't search.
Sorry for the rant.

Pitbull_Raven said:
Please, please don't think I mean to be disrespectful. Or rude. Or just plain annoying. It's just that I really can't afford to get this wrong. I need to get this right first time round (or at least within the first couple of tries) so my wife can continue to work with the phone and not come to me saying "this and that don't work".
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I understand your need to get it right but you'd had some good responses in the other thread which you could of followed up, and unfortunately it obviously has come across as annoying, but we're a forgiving community. The best thing to do when trying to decide is to read through the last few pages of a ROM thread and see what's being reported, just because a ROM might work right to begin with, unknown conflicts might start to arise when the Phones been used for a prolonged period of time, an update to a certain app breaks something etc, and while for many it may not be an issue because they'll just come and get a fix or wait for an update to something that might not bother them but bothers the next user, I wouldn't go the custom ROM route, but she's your Wife at the end of the day so it's not my balls on the line.

XperienceD said:
I understand your need to get it right but you'd had some good responses in the other thread which you could of followed up, and unfortunately it obviously has come across as annoying, but we're a forgiving community. The best thing to do when trying to decide is to read through the last few pages of a ROM thread and see what's being reported, just because a ROM might work right to begin with, unknown conflicts might start to arise when the Phones been used for a prolonged period of time, an update to a certain app breaks something etc, and while for many it may not be an issue because they'll just come and get a fix or wait for an update to something that might not bother them but bothers the next user, I wouldn't go the custom ROM route, but she's your Wife at the end of the day so it's not my balls on the line.
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I hear you. And I have succesfuly managed to root the phone. Am now in the process of doing a Titanium Backup of the device and a NANDROID too. I don't really want to flash custom. I'd rather tweak as you suggested, but to be honest, I have no idea where to begin with this device.

[Q] What are you using?

What's the consciousnesses of the best ROM for the Sprint G3?
Really don't want to download them all, try all features and then choose. We need like a Download meter on a page that says how many times each rom flavor has been downloaded so we know what's hot and what's not.
Give me your feedback based on all features working and a solid rom with no issues. (plz don't laugh. I know we are not releasing broke apps/ROMs )
DizyDiz

DizyDiz said:
What's the consciousnesses of the best ROM for the Sprint G3?
Really don't want to download them all, try all features and then choose. We need like a Download meter on a page that says how many times each rom flavor has been downloaded so we know what's hot and what's not.
Give me your feedback based on all features working and a solid rom with no issues. (plz don't laugh. I know we are not releasing broke apps/ROMs )
DizyDiz
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Every week or two, this exact thread pops up, and the generic response is: try them all out.
In terms of downloads, none of the Roms are hosted on XDA< so it'd be impossible to bake it into the site itself. Dev's could put it in their posts, but even that's not a good indication (Roms that release a lot of updates will have a lot more downloads with fewer users, for example).
In terms of what's best, it's impossible to say. I personally like some of the fun features of XYZ Rom, while Johnny over there is much more interested in stability (he uses the phone for work, you see). Likewise, Suzie really just wants to have a Stock Rom with all Sprint and Samsung bloat removed. Little Ralphie wants the fastest and most gamer-friendly Rom, while Carl wants the best battery life.
All of us will have different desires when we flash a Rom and therefore there will never be a consensus on what is the best Rom.
Edit: All of that being said, If you don't want to take the time to flash each Rom individually, I'd say look at one thread and look at the features list. You'll see a bunch of stuff that makes no sense to you, but you might be able to piece together what some of the mods/features might be. If they sound good, read through the last 5-10 pages of the thread and see if there are any stability issues being reported. If it seems stable enough for you, flash it. Otherwise, move on to the next thread.

DizyDiz said:
What's the consciousnesses of the best ROM for the Sprint G3?
Really don't want to download them all, try all features and then choose. We need like a Download meter on a page that says how many times each rom flavor has been downloaded so we know what's hot and what's not.
Give me your feedback based on all features working and a solid rom with no issues. (plz don't laugh. I know we are not releasing broke apps/ROMs )
DizyDiz
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Each rom thread has a break down of what the rom includes, what works and doesn't. Feed back on the thread is the closest to a meter you'll get.
Sent from my Freeza MD4 Stock Rooted Galaxy S3

topherk said:
Edit: All of that being said, If you don't want to take the time to flash each Rom individually, I'd say look at one thread and look at the features list. You'll see a bunch of stuff that makes no sense to you, but you might be able to piece together what some of the mods/features might be. If they sound good, read through the last 5-10 pages of the thread and see if there are any stability issues being reported. If it seems stable enough for you, flash it. Otherwise, move on to the next thread.
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This is what I do. I like Whiplashh's, and currently running MOAR.
Flastnoles11 has a list of them in his FAQ thread.

check out the ported iOS compiled from source in the original android development forum. most users have pretty decent battery life. only annoyance is that you jailbreak it every time the phone reboots.

TPR (THE PEOPLES ROM) with KT747 kernel. In b4 the lock.
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Oh hell, easy one... Wicked Sensations!!
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edfunkycold said:
TPR (THE PEOPLES ROM) with KT747 kernel. In b4 the lock.
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Deviant Xone B4 with KT747 kernel.

Please search before posting
These "What is the best......" Get closed because everything here is the best for someone. But may not be for you.
No one can tell you what will be best for you, your phone, your usage and your area.

what Rom would you guys recomend

In feom Mexico and I have a t-mo s4, recently y had the MI8 from GE but after few days I strated to have some strange behavior so I want to install another rom that could give me better response. What rom you guys recommned?? I like the Tw based rom.

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bighleo114312 said:
In feom Mexico and I have a t-mo s4, recently y had the MI8 from GE but after few days I strated to have some strange behavior so I want to install another rom that could give me better response. What rom you guys recommned?? I like the Tw based rom.
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I would recommend Wicked v7 Custom rom, it has all the bells and whistles which make a rom and the phone so great.
It's fast, smooth, lag free and everything a custom rom should be. Give it a try, you will not be disappointed........
Here is the link for the Wicked v7 custom rom for the M919 Tmobile Samsung Galaxy S4 phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265998

They frown I comparing ROMs and staying debates over which is better - and just asking what people like is a little silly. What do you WANT? A stock Touch Wiz experience with all the Samsung and T-Mobile bells and whistles? Stock android? Simple and uncomplicated? Super-configurable? Highly optimized for performance, or battery life, or storage space?
I'd love to see a thread with links to the appropriate ROM thread and a Twitter-sized expansion if what's unique and noteworthy about the ROM (probably written by the dev), so there's a simple place to start comparing.
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Try BeanStalk and your TW worries are over

I recommend the ROM that you like best.

I have used Wicked, Infamous, and ALPHA. I personally prefer Alpha as it's an international base which is updated more regularly than t-mobile is.

dont u guys read the rules... ... this thread will probably be locked soon..
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Best ROM threads are very subjective, dependent on many different criteria.
I have a strange feeling that this Best ROM thread will go the way of all the other Best ROM theads.......Locked
What I have done is looked through the past 50 pages in the Q&A Forum, and have linked to all the Best ROM threads which have been Locked, listed from the newest to oldest. Although the number of Locked
Best ROM threads will continue to grow.
There are so many, that ironically these Locked threads have become their own source of ROM information, although ROM versions are constantly updated and new ROMs are emerging all the time.
So as is always said, it is suggested to go into individual ROM threads, read about what features they have, their feedback, ask any questions you may have, etc., and try them out to see which ROM suits your taste and works best for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483768
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476065
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471813
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466779
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462133
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454342
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438742
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427352
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385379

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Jok3r10 said:
dont u guys read the rules... ... this thread will probably be locked soon..
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You know how it is here in xda, we need to find something for the moderators to do
or they will fall asleep, at least we are not cussin', fussin' and fightin' about anything.
What better way to keep em awake than talking about the best roms or our favorite roms? LOL
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Biker1 said:
Best ROM threads are very subjective, dependent on many different criteria.
I have a strange feeling that this Best ROM thread will go the way of all the other Best ROM theads.......Locked
What I have done is looked through the past 50 pages in the Q&A Forum, and have linked to all the Best ROM threads which have been Locked, listed from the newest to oldest. Although the number of Locked
Best ROM threads will continue to grow.
There are so many, that ironically these Locked threads have become their own source of ROM information, although ROM versions are constantly updated and new ROMs are emerging all the time.
So as is always said, it is suggested to go into individual ROM threads, read about what features they have, their feedback, ask any questions you may have, etc., and try them out to see which ROM suits your taste and works best for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483768
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476065
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471813
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466779
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462133
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454342
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438742
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427352
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385379
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How can there be so many "best" roms, something must be wrong...
I always thought that only one rom could be the best.
I bet out of all those best roms you found only one is truly the best, the rest are all second class.

Misterjunky said:
How can there be so many "best" roms, something must be wrong...
I always thought that only one rom could be the best.
I bet out of all those best roms you found only one is truly the best, the rest are all second class.
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Yes, they are All the Best, so the search for the Bestest ROM in the Whole Wide World has Officially ended, and we will not see or hear about anymore Best ROM threads....
The illusive search is Officially over......
And now back to reality :laugh:
The Best ROM is............. Drum Roll please.......
To be found in the next Locked Best ROM thread:cyclops:

XDA is a development site not a support site. As such members are expected to do the research, read through the development threads and decide what is BEST for them. The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be BEST for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. Please take the time to read through those development threads to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
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EFM
Have a great day!

good roms with wifi calling suggestions

hi,
im coming off tweaked rom for the better part of a year and wanted to hear some thoughts on some good touchwiz based roms with wifi calling for tmo note 2
thanks you

xsessive said:
hi,
im coming off tweaked rom for the better part of a year and wanted to hear some thoughts on some good touchwiz based roms with wifi calling for tmo note 2
thanks you
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Your own reading and research is your best answer. Opinions are just like watches; everyone has one, but they all say something different! haha I would suggest reading, then reading some more. A good place to start would be here in the XDA Forums. You should look in Android development and in Original Android development for the TMo Note 2. You might be interested just in some of the data there. You can see when the dev originally posted their rom and you can see how much response there is in the broader community.
So the answer to your question is already out there. It is in each and every rom as each developer rightly gave us a unique perspective. So go read, then read some more, and when you are through there, you might read a little. Best of luck to you!