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Desire development is seem to be going dead..
Doesn't feel good but.. really the development section is slowly going dead...
Captain Obvious to the rescue?
If you decided to have a rant, at least write a few sentences so that we have something to read?
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Yeah... I can see that too. Most "real developer" have moved to other device section. What we have now that still in Desire development is Alex-V (still active) and Coolexe will show up once in a while. Droidzone stops developing ROMs due to job commitment. Well, I'm talking about the real developer for Sense not AOSP and real developer, not modders. Once both Alex-V and Coolexe stop developing for Desire, we can expect a dead end for Desire.
every phone has a shelf life . just wait for ur upgrade and hope that the dev community is as good/helpful as this one
Gotta expect it on a 2 yo device. when you see Runnymede AIO and RSK 6 it's hard to see how much further this thing can be pushed. It's already amazing what's possible compared with what HTC intended for it, but there comes a time...
Its normaly said the device is as good as its developers, but after being part of xda for such a long time i really belive the device is as good as its supporters..! and the more the supporters move towards new devices (Especially alot these days due to the end of 2 year contracts) the lesser is the need for any one to bring something new to the device because not many are interested in using it.
And as far as the developers are concerned alot of the dev's were first supporters who really learned to develop as a process to get something new to their own and everyones devices. Many of them dont take official classes to become dev's it just takes a willing supporter of the device n community to actually give in imp time and learn and try developing.
Buh anyways The HTC DESIRE was a great 2 year run, for its money, hardware and this community..! Thankx to All The Dev's for giving us way more than HTC could ever deliver. The Desire was truely a developer phone.. just hope we see the same support in a future device !
I will probably keep my desire for another 2 years. Here in the UK you get massive reductions in line rental if you do not upgrade with a new handset. Besides that I see nothing on the market that's worth upgrading for.
It's all just gimmicks with software bugs, at least my desire is finally at a stage where everything works as planned. I'm still a stock Rom user and by browsing this forum I can see lots of upgrade potential if I venture into the dark side (go rooted).
I don't know how it works elsewhere but here in the UK the average consumer is pretty clued up on phones and most will search the net for bugs before choosing a phone.
I know quite a few iPhone users who have not upgraded to 4s and have instead opted to stay with their current iPhones and benefit from cheaper line rental.
There is also a recession so that means people are looking to save money. Old desires from the UK get sent to new owners in 3rd world countries. Basically the desire is here for another 2 years easily so it makes sense for developers to stick with it.
ckpv5 said:
Yeah... I can see that too. Most "real developer" have moved to other device section. What we have now that still in Desire development is Alex-V (still active) and Coolexe will show up once in a while. Droidzone stops developing ROMs due to job commitment. Well, I'm talking about the real developer for Sense not AOSP and real developer, not modders. Once both Alex-V and Coolexe stop developing for Desire, we can expect a dead end for Desire.
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Alex v already move to sensation xl..
Maybe you can continue desire development..
Because you help so many people.
And me also learn a lot from you..
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Xda should have a Hall of Fame. First to get crowned the HTC Desire. Any one here from Desires introduction and still has it will know of all the Dev. work done over two tears. I will always hang onto mine too much of a classic to let go.
I also have an Evo 3d (not mine but owner hates it) SGS2 and Nexus One. My Desire is still my daily driver. Some of the best Devs have worked on the Desire and I still check here regularly. So to the Rom Devs, Themers, Modders and Contributors no matter how small the contribution it has been a terrific two years.
If I can single out Madmaxx for the Touch Recovery as the greatest piece of Tech to grace the Desire and Alpharev for S-Off. Just my opinion.
Of course everybody is moving. The HTC Desire is now > two years old. Thats the smartphone lifecycle I think. Dont unterstand me wrong, I absolutely love my desire because its such a reliable phone.
It's long dead. There is very little to no development on it right now. The things you see most on the development section nowadays are merely applied knowledge learned from 'true' development that happened a year or so ago. I see this section going to the legacy devices list pretty soon.
I can't see any problems here. There are loads of stable roms - cyanogen mod, oxygen, even moded or rooted senses, there is no need to spend time on an old device, when it already has reached it's maximum
steveathome said:
Xda should have a Hall of Fame. First to get crowned the HTC Desire.
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The HD2 should be crowned first place, that's the phone that just won't die.
There are plenty of nice Roms in the Desire Section but as with my old phones, HTC Touch HD, HTC HD2 and now HTC Desire they all become old and newer phones come out. That is life. I am getting a new phone myself and looking into what is hot and got the most potential but I will still keep my Desire and hopefully look for new Roms like Sense 3.6 and Sense 4 and 100% working ICS Roms. The new phone will probably have ICS installed or upgraded but I still love Flashing new Roms just for sake of it, isnt that what we all love doing.
One thing for certain, the Desire will go down as one of the most remembered phones.
Desire and g1 best phones ever
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CM 7.2 is coming.
ICS drivers from Qualcomm is also released, let's see if something catches fire soon enough
Also, the desire hardware is kinda limited after 2 years of development.
I've only had my Desire for a year now, and moved to a custom ROM about half a year ago (InsertCoin 2.3.3) once my hunger for apps started giving me storage issues.
Am now on Sandvold ICS and LOVE the UI and HWA speed. Unfortunately, the daily random crashes I'm experiencing mean that a bit more development is needed.
As long as ICS gets stable I'm happy.
The phone is two HTC generations old now, and over 2 years since it was released. I think ICS will be the last Android version to see the Desire.
Still, there is plenty of development going on for ICS in my opinion. A new version of CM9 was just released, Sandvold has his stock version, and a development thread for Sense 4.0 has just opened. There is probably a good 6 months worth of work left.
This was my first android and parting ways with it is going to be hard but yeah we have to move on some time. No new developments rom wise besides the ics and potential ics sense stuff...
I'd say the desire still got some steam left in him
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Kalavere said:
The HD2 should be crowned first place, that's the phone that just won't die.
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Hahaha that's true!!
Never dies
Tapatalking
Honest question. Football is gone and AOSP roms never got full driver support or a decent battery life. CM still only has nightlies and there will probably never be a stable CM on the One X. Do you think there is a future for One X development?
Aosp roms are fine there only issue is the camera.
Pretty sure all will be fine. Regardless of roms. Its still one of the most beasty phones arounds
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Zhypr said:
Honest question. Football is gone and AOSP roms never got full driver support or a decent battery life. CM still only has nightlies and there will probably never be a stable CM on the One X. Do you think there is a future for One X development?
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yes...and cause Football has gone it is not the end of the world..and to be honest kinda disrespectful to the other devs here on XDA.. Look at Mike and Revolution rom..Look at the Viper X rom.....Look at ICJ and that is already on 4.2.1 and going strong...There are roms out there...Just got to look a bit more and follow the threads....
So if one person has gone does not mean everything has fallen out of place...
AW: Is One X development going anywhere?
Strictly speaking, there is no android rom, wether stock or custom, that is at "final" stage
Thank people as long as you can...
Seriously! There is multiple 4.2 roms out including one released in the past few days which are nearly all working apart from a few minor issues. There is no jb kernel out yet but yet these roms are 90°/ working. If I was one of our hard working devs I'd be feeling kinda pissed.
4.2 is the current os
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Mr_S said:
Seriously! There is multiple 4.2 roms out including one released in the past few days which are nearly all working apart from a few minor issues. There is no jb kernel out yet but yet these roms are 90°/ working. If I was one of our hard working devs I'd be feeling kinda pissed.
4.2 is the current os
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it is and already on it and loving it...kernel source will just complete the puzzle and will have our complete roms then
Goku80 said:
yes...and cause Football has gone it is not the end of the world..and to be honest kinda disrespectful to the other devs here on XDA.. Look at Mike and Revolution rom..Look at the Viper X rom.....Look at ICJ and that is already on 4.2.1 and going strong...There are roms out there...Just got to look a bit more and follow the threads....
So if one person has gone does not mean everything has fallen out of place...
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I don't see why it's disrespectful, and I have donated to Mike in the past. I am just stating facts. All Sense roms have the same base. Bases that mostly came from Football. I'm just trying to start a chat to see if there are any new things coming up besides the small bug fixes.
Zhypr said:
Honest question. Football is gone and AOSP roms never got full driver support or a decent battery life. CM still only has nightlies and there will probably never be a stable CM on the One X. Do you think there is a future for One X development?
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We're waiting on 3.x kernel sources from HTC. That'll improve AOSP builds a lot.
Not to undermine Football, but at most all he did was speed up dev around 2 months as he leaked early HTC RUUs.
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Zhypr said:
I don't see why it's disrespectful, and I have donated to Mike in the past. I am just stating facts. All Sense roms have the same base. Bases that mostly came from Football. I'm just trying to start a chat to see if there are any new things coming up besides the small bug fixes.
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True..But at the same time he is not the only one who can get Sense roms.. So again Football is not the lone factor of the development scene for the One X..Many developers are not just him. And again it is not about donating to other devs that shows your support it is just acknowledging them and supporting them like everyone else here, which i am sure you do. And i agree with the post above mine..
You got Trip, Lord Clockan, Tbalden, Floatshow, so many more..the list is endless...Development will not stop..infact my friend it has just started..and with kernel source i would not be surprised to see more kernel developers having a go..
Zhypr said:
Honest question. Football is gone and AOSP roms never got full driver support or a decent battery life. CM still only has nightlies and there will probably never be a stable CM on the One X. Do you think there is a future for One X development?
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This isn't just a good point for the One X - it's true for all HTC handsets and sense based XDA devs.
Yes their are other sources of advanced roms but football leaked the vast majority first. So yes there will be leaks still I'm sure.. but they'll be less ahead of official releases probably and less diverse and prolific.
It is all about HTC cracking down on modding of their material and making what we like here less advantageous.
So I agree - it is a big deal for all XDA. Which XDA is being very quiet about at its official level too when it's without doubt a news worthy event.
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This thread is pointless and helps nobody. All that is said here is true for every device out there and only leads to arguing.
so... i had no part of the dev on this rom...all credit goes to houstonn
BUT ITS A ROM THAT WORKS FOR THE SPRINT VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been running it for about 3-4hrs now... no bugs... gps/lte/AUTO-rotate/BT/WIFI/AND CAMERA all work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
here is the link to the ORIGINAL THREAD.....
I hope i don't get smited for posting it here....
BUT.... here it is!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
hi,
I'll chime in if you guys don't mind..
All roms 4.3 for sprint that was built by me was just showing some love to sprint users.. I wanted to get the ball rolling for sprint and eventually hopefully someone could continue and with my help they would be off to a rolling start already.. I don't own a sprint g2. I'm a Canadian g2.. I usually don't like building variants that I cannot personally test myself..
I felt is is unfair while everyone owns such a beautiful phone and not able to have it custom while other variants of the exact same phone are able to. So I tried my best to do what I could while I had the time to..
All 4.3 roms I posted for testing will not be supported by me nor will I take responsibility for any problems it may cause..
I will only support anything current that I personally post myself.. anyone is more than welcome to try anything I have released previously, cause if I didn't ok that I would remove the file myself.
I'm a member of PA and all my releases with 4.4 will be built from PA sources. PA is starting fresh so the builds are basically same as stock aosp google releases except with the few minor additions. PA is reworking fresh and will bring in all the known pa features as time passes. it won't be officially support until I post an official thread. but right now I have alpha test builds out. I hate having temporary download links all over the place..
but as for sprint, I felt you guys needed some loving too since I don't see much support at this time.. as for other roms and other official roms, I don't know if the devs will support this variant or not.. it helps to have a dev that has the same variant.. I guess the Canadian g2 ppl will be lucky since I use a Canadian g2
I will try my best to support what I can with the amount of time I have.. having a full time job and building so many variants is very time consuming.
On another note. if someone wanted to post a link for any testing it's best that it should of been posted in the General Section since this forum is for development purposes..
all aside. if you guys want I have an alpha test build of PA 4.0 kk4.4 for the sprint ls980. you can find the rom here.
links can change at any given time.. I will work some more at fixing some bugs but this is what I have to offer for now.. I hope u guys enjoy.thanks. it's best you follow my thread in the original dev forum until I have a formal thread posted with full support but as for now this is what you get till I have more info.
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If any Sprint dev was interested in continuing your work on Carbon or PA ROM, should they contact you via PM for the source? I guess there could be some Sprint devs out there interested in making these type of ROMs but don't know where they can get the source to build from it.
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I don't think anyone will be working on 4.3 anymore... I will most like support sprint officially with PA if have enough time to manage all the erors.. it seems more simple with the other variants since they are gsm and have mostly all things in common..
we are in the process of all migrations and merging of 4.4. If I don't build officially for sprint I'll make sure to have all the sources on PA's legacy github https://github.com/AOSPA-legacy and anyone that wants to build for you guys would have all the sources they would need.. there is 2 branchs or gits for PA now. the AOSPA which is PURE AOSP and PA uses for Nexus supported devices and now AOSPA-legacy which is for all supported non nexus devices we support. I will try my best.. remember im 1 man.. the team has so many devices and so many things on the go. If I had a whole team of devs working on this with me , it would be much more simple .. I am working with a few ppl and am helping another dev bringup 4.4 for Omni (hopefully if u guys can convince him, he'll build for sprint too )
it's still so early and knowing that g2 has kk. im sure more devs will jump on.. just a little patience
I'll do what I can for you Sprint guys.. but you have to bare with me. I'm only one guy like I said.. I'll keep you guys updated tho.. for all other info you can always go on irc on freenode.org in #lg-g2 . I may not always be online.. and please.. let's keep those PM msg flooding to a minimal. I've been flooded a lot lately and I don't have the time to visit every thread and every PM. I have a hard time enough keeping up on my own thread.
houstonn said:
hi,
I'll chime in if you guys don't mind..
All roms 4.3 for sprint that was built by me was just showing some love to sprint users.. I wanted to get the ball rolling for sprint and eventually hopefully someone could continue and with my help they would be off to a rolling start already.. I don't own a sprint g2. I'm a Canadian g2.. I usually don't like building variants that I cannot personally test myself..
I felt is is unfair while everyone owns such a beautiful phone and not able to have it custom while other variants of the exact same phone are able to. So I tried my best to do what I could while I had the time to..
All 4.3 roms I posted for testing will not be supported by me nor will I take responsibility for any problems it may cause..
I will only support anything current that I personally post myself.. anyone is more than welcome to try anything I have released previously, cause if I didn't ok that I would remove the file myself.
I'm a member of PA and all my releases with 4.4 will be built from PA sources. PA is starting fresh so the builds are basically same as stock aosp google releases except with the few minor additions. PA is reworking fresh and will bring in all the known pa features as time passes. it won't be officially support until I post an official thread. but right now I have alpha test builds out. I hate having temporary download links all over the place..
but as for sprint, I felt you guys needed some loving too since I don't see much support at this time.. as for other roms and other official roms, I don't know if the devs will support this variant or not.. it helps to have a dev that has the same variant.. I guess the Canadian g2 ppl will be lucky since I use a Canadian g2
I will try my best to support what I can with the amount of time I have.. having a full time job and building so many variants is very time consuming.
On another note. if someone wanted to post a link for any testing it's best that it should of been posted in the General Section since this forum is for development purposes..
all aside. if you guys want I have an alpha test build of PA 4.0 kk4.4 for the sprint ls980. you can find the rom here.
links can change at any given time.. I will work some more at fixing some bugs but this is what I have to offer for now.. I hope u guys enjoy.thanks. it's best you follow my thread in the original dev forum until I have a formal thread posted with full support but as for now this is what you get till I have more info.
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thread closed for the the reasons stated above ^^^^^^^^
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
The device is aging, M9 is supposed to be revealed tomorrow. I'm not even sure if they will make the 5.1 Android for M8, and that is much needed, seeing how buggy Lollipop is. I seriously regret updating, I wish I had enough sense to stay wit KitKat, that worked great on my phone.
PresidentCupcake said:
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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ViperOneM8 has been updated three times in the last two weeks, with another update to come out in the next few days. Although two of them mostly addressed bug fixes, there were also new features added.
There has been a couple of lollipop nightly builds for this device. To be honest, I don't really notice a slowdown of development.
PresidentCupcake said:
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
My 2 cents
Mr Hofs said:
No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
My 2 cents
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Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?
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Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?
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I don't think.....know for sure it will
Pretty basic post here any aosp builds floating around? I skimmed g+ but no results. TIA
Not yet. HTC hasn't even released kernel sources for all models yet, so it's going to be a little while. Also, unlike the m7 and m8, the m9 will NOT be getting a Google Play Edition, so AOSP has to be ported manually by rom devs, rather than just pulling the GPE dumps and working from there.
I'm waiting patiently. I can't wait to get my SlimLP back.
I need my fix but can wait . For now, I'm no dev. so not much choice .