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Why should I root my phone?

Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?

One of the major reasons I root is so I can use custom roms, edited versions of the stock os, that are modified to include different features and improve the speed of the device, others love rooting for the ability to customize anything you want to.
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While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.

jdmba said:
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.

aaronjb said:
Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.
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I'd bet we'll have a FroYo port waaay before VZ pushes it out over the air. I think (!) HTC's Software Quality Assurance is more thorough (and slower than) Google's Quality Assurance, or at least Google would rather push an update out with fewer features whereas HTC will wait for all features to work. AFAIK, VZ has very little to add or subtract to the mix -- how long does it take to recompile against a new framework and kernel?

superflysmith said:
Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?
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If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.

seanmcd72 said:
If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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I haven't been trying. Just trying to see if it's even worth trying to figure out. At this point I see nothing that would make me want to anyhow.

seanmcd72 said:
If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?

rynosaur said:
Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?
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I miss messing with stuff... i came from a G1 were i was running a different rom every 3 days it seemed like.. i was constantly messing with things with it just for ****s and giggles
I do feel really locked down with the incredible in knowing that i cant really mess with anything, the only thing ive been able to change is the boot screen and put the nexus animation on that instead of the stupid verizon symbol.
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine

The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms

An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"

kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.

KB Smoka said:
I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.
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Omfg I know, right? I flashed them in my eyes accidentally and I was like holy crap, blinded me for about a minute.

m1k3- said:
An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"
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That would be a great title, you're right!!!

I got a froyo port going!
jdmba said:
While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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I have released a froyo port method over at the "anyone want froyo" thread on the 8th page. I hope it helps anyone!

Joe92T said:
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine
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+1. There is not much that comes to mind with regard to things I'd like to improve with the DI. For example, the phone has more app storage than I could ever use, so there is no need for A2SD. And the processing speed is satisfying, so gaining OC'd kernel isn't a big priority. However, I simply miss being able to **** around with and compare various ROM's and mods, even if they are unneccessary on this device.

I have no real reason to root just yet, well then again I'm totally new to android, so I'm not exactly sure what rooting entails. All I want is stock 2.2 froyo, the day that is ported over to our phone is the day I will be rooted.
Can't wait..

kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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i agree, the wifi tether is what made me root now rather than later.

HELP..Will my 16gb card work?
if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?

langebart13 said:
if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?
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Absolutely....just need the POS 2GB to get ADB going.

Why root, besides natural causes..

Just got my Nexus 7 today. Been a root user since HTC desire (still use it, even though I've been through One X and others..)
I know the pros of being rooted, but why should I root my Nexus 7 when it's a pure google device already? Are there any significant changes in the ROMs that diff from the official KitKat 4.4?
I'm not searching for an angry argument, would just like to know if there is much for me to benefit from rooting now, at the moment. And, I'm sure someone will ask; I do everyday tasks, but am very curious to geeky stuff and all that.. but, a side from that, is it worth rooting?!
Thanks!

Titanium Backup.
For me it's worth rooting even only for this single app.

k3lcior said:
Titanium Backup.
For me it's worth rooting even only for this single app.
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And Adfree! I've never installed any fully custom roms, just left them standard but rooted, on all the Androids I've had. On my first one, a Xoom, I did install another rom, but only because someone produced a nice 'standard' one, with just overclocking added.

Ah yeah completely forgot it, first thing to install. Though i'm using AdAway.
Also FasterFix.
I couldn't use Android without these 3.

k3lcior said:
Ah yeah completely forgot it, first thing to install. Though i'm using AdAway.
Also FasterFix.
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Does fasterfix help the GPS lock time if you're not using the other google location services?

alpine101 said:
Does fasterfix help the GPS lock time if you're not using the other google location services?
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Sorry i dont understand your question, anyway FasterFix improve gps lock time.

Well its not all ad free, that depends on what apps your running.. And, still; pretty obvious reasons, but I agree. Oh well, guess I just root the anyway, since I know I'm going to do it at some point.. Just need to play with it for a while and find a absolute awesome ROM first.. I would still appreciate other good 'whys' though!

If you think you are going to want root do it now before you get to far into setting your tablet up. Rooting the N7 requires unlocking the device and well reset the device.
fasthair

Root because its a Nexus...a toy that needs to used to its full potential and for root apps we need and love, I also need a kernel that I can customise with trickster mod to increase sound and just generally tweak!
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Just got my Nexus 7 today. Been a root user since HTC desire (still use it, even though I've been through One X and others..)
I know the pros of being rooted, but why should I root my Nexus 7 when it's a pure google device already? Are there any significant changes in the ROMs that diff from the official KitKat 4.4?
I'm not searching for an angry argument, would just like to know if there is much for me to benefit from rooting now, at the moment. And, I'm sure someone will ask; I do everyday tasks, but am very curious to geeky stuff and all that.. but, a side from that, is it worth rooting?!
Thanks!
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Yeah, true. But I don't mind full wipes/resets that much.. Kind of used to it! I realize now this topic maybe was a little unnecessary, since I AM going to root at some point.. Got a bit carried away here, blown by the sweetness of N7! So I figured 'why root?!', but I ain't foolin' no one, I will root, haha.. Any ROMs that are specifically better?! I like pure Android, fast 'n stable..
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I mean; **** is lightening fast as it is already! Great hell, I'm amazed by this machine..

You can use Stock and Root it.

Could we use the Linux kernel bug CVE-2015-1805 to root our LG G4's running MM?

I don't know how this will be able to help our situation with locked bootloaders, but I am sure the intelligent among us could somehow use this.

I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)

xrad said:
I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-updates-lg-g3-and-g4-march-security-patch? now I wish H815 would get it. Amazing to see a carrier phone appear to get this first.

xrad said:
I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.

yash_bhardwaj said:
Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.
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I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother

spartan268 said:
I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother
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I was foolish enough to update to MM, I've since stopped using the device completely except for answering calls, and I am really sad about that. With the leather back, curved screen, replaceable battery, and back buttons this is one of my top phones. Yes, I know I can downgrade, but I don't want to be bothered by that. I like the new MM features enough to not downgrade, yet I hate not having root, the ad-blocking, the tweaking of my phone to my liking. I've already decided on not buying any phones except nexus. But sadly I am stuck with this phone till the next nexus comes out.

Hello,
I was wondering if someone with the right skills could do it.
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-1805
In the bug's description it's said that Linux kernels before 3.16 are affected by this, I'm using 20e which runs 3.10.84 so theoretically exploitable.
I work with software development but web/mainframe mainly, anyone with a few hax0r skills willing to work on this?
I would certainly donate for this cause.

Is Custom Rom worth it?

I've been running stock for the few months I've had this phone but keep wondering if flashing a custom rom is worth the effort? Is there one that's the best?

acheney1990 said:
I've been running stock for the few months I've had this phone but keep wondering if flashing a custom rom is worth the effort? Is there one that's the best?
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Yes it is and no there's not. It's all down to personal preference and only you know what you like best.

It depends on your preference. Ever since safetynet, custom roms have been a nightmare with security issues or being up to date with making it pass.
Also, having a Google device, you'll be giving up running the latest software updates as you would have to wait for when the developer has the time to integrate it.
Android has matured much since it's induction and the use of EZ Root for a one-click root as it now has ways to customize it in a functional matter in ways that you needed a custom rom for.
If you enjoy changing colors or themes and are willing to sacrifice security and some functionality, then you have your answer.
To me honestly, it's no longer worth it. Having to scour the forums every time there's a bug, troubleshooting issues, or for updates takes way too much time that I no longer have. I just want a phone that does eveything I need to simplify my everyday life, not make it complicated. Don't care for red, blue, green status bars or settings app, or having a custom boot animation for a device that never needs a reset. Function over form for me.

acheney1990 said:
I've been running stock for the few months I've had this phone but keep wondering if flashing a custom rom is worth the effort? Is there one that's the best?
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I've flashed most all of the popular ones, and while I like most of the features they offer, I have settled on plain ol stock + root with some substratum themes to darken things up. I don't think it's particularly difficult to flash a custom rom now that I've pretty much got the A/B partition thing figured out, but I like to update my device the day a new factory image comes out, then just flash twrp and root again, and I'm up to date in about 20 minutes time with no data loss. But it's like P70shooter said...it's really up to your personal preference, and what your looking for :good:

I haven't flashed any ROMS recently, but it's because of the reasons mentioned before. They don't offer enough benefit over stock + rooted to be worth losing GPay and monthly updates. Root access basically let's you tweak any part of the phone to your liking anyway.
I think ROM developers realize this and it's contributing to a scarcity of quality ROMs anyway.

I've thought about this also. But Stock is so good on this Phone. That just Rooting to use Edge Sense to change squeeze actions and TWRP, black Bootmation. I'm good. Plus installing custom ROMS isnt easy with the A B partion stuff. Stock + Root:good:
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p70shooter said:
Yes it is and no there's not. It's all down to personal preference and only you know what you like best.
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P70shooter, are u the maker of the screwd ROM on angler?

AquariOS had been Rock solid for me, and I know @Badger50 would agree. I get his position about the updates process though so your best bet in my opinion is to try one and see what your own opinion is. The squeeze thing is missing from custom roms, so if you dig that you might miss it. I'm still on Feb. Update and might just hang here for the summer unless I get bored. Lol again I would at least try one before you decide...

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P70shooter, are u the maker of the screwd ROM on angler?
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That's not me I'm afraid. I use to be the maintainer for Candy on angler but now I'm just a tester and thread bouncer for AquariOS.

I've tried most the ROMs available and I find stock with gravity box is the perfect combo for me

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I've tried most the ROMs available and I find stock with gravity box is the perfect combo for me
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Absolutely agree

I like Stock rooted and Custom Roms! Now if only we had Dual boot... A=Stock B=Custom

galaxys said:
I like Stock rooted and Custom Roms! Now if only we had Dual boot... A=Stock B=Custom
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That my friend would be the "Bees Knees" :good:

Not worth it anymore. Haven't unlocked bootloader or did anything since the first pixel release.

I've tried most of the custom roms as well. Most of them have some nice touches that I use. However, the one thing missing for the last several months on all custom roms is verizon wifi calling. You should try them out yourself and decide.

I used to run Gravity Box when I had xposed installed on a previous device, but from what I understand, it's not possible to use xposed and pass safety net....is that still true?

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I used to run Gravity Box when I had xposed installed on a previous device, but from what I understand, it's not possible to use xposed and pass safety net....is that still true?
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That's right

I've been a big time custom ROM user, flashed them as often as I could on previous phones. Stock+root+xposed does every single thing I need on the p2xl though.

has anyone noticed that display quality seems better on custom roms?
specifically Carbon rom vs Stock for me.
screen looks more bright and clear.

It really depends on your usage. I used to flash custom roms on all of my devices, primarily for themes and debloating. Up until the Nexus 6, it was well worth it. However, with Google's monthly security patches, maintaining a custom ROM is a lot more work. If you use custom themes, expect to have to disable themes every time there are app or rom updates, then reapply. With a busy work schedule, it simply became too much of a hassle and to be honest, stock ROMs have gotten a lot smoother.

Root in the Future

As many of you know the Nokia 8.1 is probably not going to get a method for a unlocked bootloader since H.M.D global shut down the exploit/way to aquire it.
I was wondering if there would be any reason that my beloved 8.1 couldn't be rooted by apps like Kingroot when they get the ability to root android PIE.
I didn't realize upon buying the phone that Nokia was so against rooting and im kinda bummed out that as of yet the phone isn't rootable yet. Might even trade it for a Pocophone and take the lack of NFC for granted

Do have mine unlocked and rooted. But the root is a messy task which will most likely take away OTA updates because any tampering is an end to the incremental OTA. Then flashing stock is a tough task too, because the awesome people at FIH Mobile forgot to disable fuse when bl is unlocked. Also, the process is kinda complicated and still under testing Given the complication, I'm sure it won't be freely available because it starts off by using paid tools to trigger debug mode.

I really didn't know that there's almost no way to root this phone when I bought it 2 months ago, but luckily the only reason I've rooted my previous phone (Mi A1) was because of Gcam which is supported out of the box on this one. So it's fine for me, but I do see that no rooting method could be an issue for some people.
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I have already replaced the phone because of lack of root / development for this phone. Hated the stock ROM because lots of things didnt work with it (samsung gear watch, some wireless APs, car navigation, etc etc) and without the development this would never be solved.
Also I have expected better camera for the price of the phone.
WIll never buy any HMD device ever again.

nitko666 said:
I have already replaced the phone because of lack of root / development for this phone. Hated the stock ROM because lots of things didnt work with it (samsung gear watch, some wireless APs, car navigation, etc etc) and without the development this would never be solved.
Also I have expected better camera for the price of the phone.
WIll never buy any HMD device ever again.
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Really !! this is surprise for me
I must have searched and read all forum on xda before buying this phone.
hope some body will post some steps to root it.
I read somewhere that some guys was able to root it.
hope I do not have to sell it.

looks like not much active forum for our device.
less people with this device.

light.apps said:
looks like not much active forum for our device.
less people with this device.
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Looks like not many want to ruin their brand new phone.

Nollie8969 said:
Looks like not many want to ruin their brand new phone.
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XDA is all about root and ROMs
Every one clever would find out first BEFORE buy Nokia phones about the impossibility of rooting those.
I'm sure when root is possible in future ( some geek will find a way, its a phone and not a high end secure government secret thing lol ) more pple will come see this thread.
Mark my words :good:

You're right. At the end of the update cycle I like to install LOS or likewise. Not for the sake for Adaway only.

Nollie8969 said:
You're right. At the end of the update cycle I like to install LOS or likewise. Not for the sake for Adaway only.
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Agree.
Just like what we're doing at home. We're using Samsung Note 3 (Cyanogenmod rom) as online phone for local line. Before that, the phone with default OS was too lagging and cannot even install the online phone app I need.

andreoide said:
XDA is all about root and ROMs
Every one clever would find out first BEFORE buy Nokia phones about the impossibility of rooting those.
I'm sure when root is possible in future ( some geek will find a way, its a phone and not a high end secure government secret thing lol ) more pple will come see this thread.
Mark my words :good:
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well said :good:

Motorola/Lenovo seems to be the last castle of root/development.
I was an early adopter of G7 (I bought it on initial release). As soon as BL unlock support added, BAM! rooted!
How easy it was and I am not developer

singhnsk said:
Do have mine unlocked and rooted. But the root is a messy task which will most likely take away OTA updates because any tampering is an end to the incremental OTA. Then flashing stock is a tough task too, because the awesome people at FIH Mobile forgot to disable fuse when bl is unlocked. Also, the process is kinda complicated and still under testing Given the complication, I'm sure it won't be freely available because it starts off by using paid tools to trigger debug mode.
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Bro, can you please explain about how to root my nokia 8.1