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Random Reboots since JVB by OTA

This has happened to me twice while in my pocket since receiving the OTA a week ago. This never happened with ZV9 since getting the phone months ago.
Has anybody else seen this? Any ideas what this might be? Any apps to help figure out what's causing this? Is this related to the location service reboots that other phones on Jelly Bean like the Nexus were having?

I am not a big fan of Android version changes via "patching" for this very reason. I suggest doing a factory reset and see if it continues to happen.

Lokifish Marz said:
I am not a big fan of Android version changes via "patching" for this very reason. I suggest doing a factory reset and see if it continues to happen.
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Good call, thanks for the input. I was considering doing that if it keeps up.
I'll probably root and unlock soon anyway once I have some time.

spackmanbr said:
Good call, thanks for the input. I was considering doing that if it keeps up.
I'll probably root and unlock soon anyway once I have some time.
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I had this problem and it only happened after I had updated the Android Booster FREE app. I uninstalled Android Booster FREE (as it really wasn't useful, in my opinion anyway) and the problem disappeared. If you have this app installed maybe you can uninstall it and see if that solves your problem.

Thanks for the input, but I never use any apps of that nature, and no power saver apps either.

[Q] Factory reset after OTA updates

Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!

jack880 said:
Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!
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I didn't do it. In fact, I've never done it on any device. And mine is running beautifully. Then again if I've never done it I suppose I can't compare.
But, talk about inconvenient! Every time there's an update you're gonna wipe your tablet and all of your data? Then sit there and reapply all your settings, configurations, files and apps? Imagine having to reformat you PC every time there was a Windows update...
I think if people see an improvement after doing so, it isn't because this tactic does anything special. But because you've wiped your system and started fresh again, of course you'll see an improvement. Update or no update.
I say if you're experiencing issues, it's worth doing to possibly remedy the problem(s).

jack880 said:
Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!
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Yes!! After a reset, its like day and night! reset is the key along with killing some of the Samsung apps, s voice home button, and turning off all 3 animations from developer options.

imagine cars said:
Yes!! After a reset, its like day and night! reset is the key along with killing some of the Samsung apps, s voice home button, and turning off all 3 animations from developer options.
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What exactly does every update do to require a factory reset?

vdc530 said:
What exactly does every update do to require a factory reset?
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Updates do not require factory resets. The OP was just mentioning that he reset after the update and his system runs great.
The truth is that all your hard work setting up your device is gone and you must do it all over again.

miked0602 said:
Updates do not require factory resets. The OP was just mentioning that he reset after the update and his system runs great.
The truth is that all your hard work setting up your device is gone and you must do it all over again.
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Exactly my point. The system runs great not because the update did anything to slow it down, but because he did a system restore. The update had no effect, good or bad.

vdc530 said:
Exactly my point. The system runs great not because the update did anything to slow it down, but because he did a system restore. The update had no effect, good or bad.
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Well now the update can improve performance in itself, but not always as some are just security updates.

miked0602 said:
Well now the update can improve performance in itself, but not always as some are just security updates.
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I meant the sole fact that you're updating won't effect the performance. This entire thread has been about doing a factory reset because of an update, as if an update regardless of what it's for will someone hurt your performance.

Phone got SO hot last night :/

So last night my phone was acting weird. Wouldn't send text and was kinda dying faster than usual.
I got it fully charged and went to sleep. Unplugged it after it was charged....I woke up like 4 hours later, the phone was at 6% and was seriously SO hot... I thought it was going to burst into flames. I turned it off a little to cool down and after checked the battery stats.. "Google play services" 35% Keep awake 5h 23m 26s -- CPU total 1h 24m
I need a little help because its still kinda warm

Anyone

Get greenified and greenify google play services. You need "pro" version to greenify system apps.
Next time phone starts acting up, restart it.
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Helloworld294 said:
Get greenified and greenify google play services. You need "pro" version to greenify system apps.
Next time phone starts acting up, restart it.
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I shall download it!..phones getting hot again around 30% and its acting up..the download of the app keeps stopping at 67% ugh
EDIT: got the app, paid version, cant find google play services in the picker to even greenify it

I had this after several ota updates, did a full wipe flash to 10i (latest) and it's been done ever since.

mjb152 said:
I had this after several ota updates, did a full wipe flash to 10i (latest) and it's been done ever since.
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See my phone isn't even rooted! I have the tmobile version and I will admit after the ota update that happened not to long ago it's been giving me probs.
Also... My phone drained it's self last night while I was sleeping. It was around 85% and I woke up it was dead. I think I gotta factory reset it

sorry, I'd assumed you'ds rooted it. Definitely do a factory reset, you've got some pain backing up and restoring apps though.
If you root and use titanium, that gets much easier

mjb152 said:
sorry, I'd assumed you'ds rooted it. Definitely do a factory reset, you've got some pain backing up and restoring apps though.
If you root and use titanium, that gets much easier
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Yeah I've rooted my last 3 phones but this one I've been just waiting and keeping it stock. Funny story: about 7 years of having rooted phones... Never used and app back up and just did it myself :x haha.
I'm just gonna back up the pics now and do it

mjb152 said:
sorry, I'd assumed you'ds rooted it. Definitely do a factory reset, you've got some pain backing up and restoring apps though.
If you root and use titanium, that gets much easier
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Now I'm contemplating if I should just root it haha

I always tell myself I won't mess with the device I buy. But then I always end up rooting lol

I think root and then install xposed, and you'll get access to a whole heap of functionality.
I did this and also use tasker, and I'm very happy.
Reverting back to a non rooted phone is very easy should you need to.
The reason I rooted was to make the external sd card writable, and also to perform the headphone mod for volume increase.

So can anyone confirm that to stop this its as easy as using the paid version if Greenify, the OP said he couldnt find it in the list?
seems everyone has this problem, i struck it on my old Galaxy, took me ages to sort it

Well now maybe I'll just root it. Any idea what the best way to root the tmobile version is

Vivasanti said:
So can anyone confirm that to stop this its as easy as using the paid version if Greenify, the OP said he couldnt find it in the list?
seems everyone has this problem, i struck it on my old Galaxy, took me ages to sort it
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Google Play Services has been updating I believe and causing issues for some. If your issues don't stop after a couple days and with some reboots you could always root the phone and try Greenify like suggested, although so many things depend on GPS that typically it won't Hibernate easily.
Factory resets, clear cache/Dalvic and reboots can help.
xzero425x said:
Well now maybe I'll just root it. Any idea what the best way to root the tmobile version is
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I'd definitely root that phone! Use Stump Root found in the Original Development Forum. Also, you can run a custom recovery on your TMobile G3 and with that you can make nandroid backups in case whatever you decide to do to your phone goes badly, you can easily restore it. Your very lucky to have that option, your G3 is the only one right now with a true untethered custom recovery.
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any help

I have the regular note 4, and for some reason it stutters/lags alot.
Is there any way to get rid of stuff without root? Or am i stuck with a lagging phone because its not the dev edition

GreeleyXda said:
I have the regular note 4, and for some reason it stutters/lags alot.
Is there any way to get rid of stuff without root? Or am i stuck with a lagging phone because its not the dev edition
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You can freeze apps from your Application Settings :3 From what I understand though, if you are truly experiencing some bad lag, the phone might be defective; in which case, I would get a replacement as soon as possible d: I have not experienced any significant lag other than the occasional recent app's button delay, but even that is hardly noticeable. Besides, if I spent about $800 on a device, I would hope that it is not laggy, right? XD Unacceptable!

JippleStar said:
You can freeze apps from your Application Settings :3 From what I understand though, if you are truly experiencing some bad lag, the phone might be defective; in which case, I would get a replacement as soon as possible d: I have not experienced any significant lag other than the occasional recent app's button delay, but even that is hardly noticeable. Besides, if I spent about $800 on a device, I would hope that it is not laggy, right? XD Unacceptable!
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Would a video of it lagging help me get advice on the problem?
Verizon would send me a certified like new phone. Id prefer not to do that.
I was on an s5 that wasnt getting me good signal for data and the usb cover broke, so i upgraded to the note 4 as soon as it was released, i should of waited for the dev edition.

GreeleyXda said:
Would a video of it lagging help me get advice on the problem?
Verizon would send me a certified like new phone. Id prefer not to do that.
I was on an s5 that wasnt getting me good signal for data and the usb cover broke, so i upgraded to the note 4 as soon as it was released, i should of waited for the dev edition.
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Unfortunately, I am probably just as clueless > 3<; I'm essentially just repeating what other people said on XDA
Regarding the certified/refurbished phone replacement though, I would strongly consider it after reading jonahtriangle comment in this thread - especially if your phone is having noticeable lag. Besides, if your phone is defective and you have to fix it... isn't your phone inevitably going to become a refurb? :silly:
If you have not tried already, you could also disable apps and change some [developer] settings to make your note 4 experience smoother. This youtube video was pretty helpful - mostly because I didn't know developer settings existed :silly:
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I just realized that I didn't ask this: Has your phone been laggy since purchase? Or did the laggyness happen suddenly - maybe after installing app(s)?
Additionally, some people have claimed that touchwiz is laggy. Although I did not experience any lag personally with touchwiz, I did find that I prefer Nova Launcher. If you have not tried it, I highly recommend it.

GreeleyXda said:
I have the regular note 4, and for some reason it stutters/lags alot.
Is there any way to get rid of stuff without root? Or am i stuck with a lagging phone because its not the dev edition
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If you have disabled the apps that you don't use or want and have tried a cache cleaner like 1 Tap Cleaner or one of the other pretty good cache cleaners in the Play Store and you're still getting lag then look to see what widgets you have running and how often they are updating. If you have apps that you've downloaded but never use, get rid of them, they could be running in the background eating up resources. If all else fails, often a Factory Reset will fix a lagging phone. I know it is a PITA because you have to set the phone up again and download apps, but for a lag problem, it often works.

jpcalhoun said:
If you have disabled the apps that you don't use or want and have tried a cache cleaner like 1 Tap Cleaner or one of the other pretty good cache cleaners in the Play Store and you're still getting lag then look to see what widgets you have running and how often they are updating. If you have apps that you've downloaded but never use, get rid of them, they could be running in the background eating up resources. If all else fails, often a Factory Reset will fix a lagging phone. I know it is a PITA because you have to set the phone up again and download apps, but for a lag problem, it often works.
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I've actually read that cache cleaners and other "optimizers" are unnecessary for phones like ours I do not use them personally and do not experience any noticeable lag so I would recommend caution when installing apps like that.
What's PITA?

JippleStar said:
I've actually read that cache cleaners and other "optimizers" are unnecessary for phones like ours I do not use them personally and do not experience any noticeable lag so I would recommend caution when installing apps like that.
What's PITA?
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Hey, glad you're not experiencing lag, but my post was not directed to you. The apps I reference are not "optimizers". Yes, there are "optimizers" out there that create more problems than they fix. But, a good cache cleaner can make a positive difference if you are running apps that constantly store cache. Over time that cache mounts up and eats a look of memory that is not available for the system to immediately use. This doesn't create a problem (storing cache) if you turn your phone off every day, but many users don't do that. Turning your phone off and back on will clear most of the cache stores. If you don't clear the cache stores your phone will eventually lag or slow down. That is when a good cache cleaner is handy to have. Most manufactures somewhere in their literature recommends turning your phone off and back on every day or so. There is a good reason for that. PITA stands for Pain in the Ass.

jpcalhoun said:
Hey, glad you're not experiencing lag, but my post was not directed to you. The apps I reference are not "optimizers". Yes, there are "optimizers" out there that create more problems than they fix. But, a good cache cleaner can make a positive difference if you are running apps that constantly store cache. Over time that cache mounts up and eats a look of memory that is not available for the system to immediately use. This doesn't create a problem (storing cache) if you turn your phone off every day, but many users don't do that. Turning your phone off and back on will clear most of the cache stores. If you don't clear the cache stores your phone will eventually lag or slow down. That is when a good cache cleaner is handy to have. Most manufactures somewhere in their literature recommends turning your phone off and back on every day or so. There is a good reason for that. PITA stands for Pain in the Ass.
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Ahh that makes sense haha to both things lol & I know it wasn't directed towards me, but mine wasn't directed towards you either just adding my thoughts is all, doesn't really have to mean anything o. O

GreeleyXda said:
I have the regular note 4, and for some reason it stutters/lags alot.
Is there any way to get rid of stuff without root? Or am i stuck with a lagging phone because its not the dev edition
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One other recommendation before you do a Factory Reset of return your phone. Power your phone off and boot into Safe Mode (hold power and volume down, when the phone turns on release the power button but continue to hold down the volume down. Your phone will boot as normal but without loading any of your downloaded apps). Run the phone in Safe Mode and see if you still have lag. If the lag is no longer there then it is probably a problem with one or more of your downloaded apps/widgets
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JippleStar said:
Ahh that makes sense haha to both things lol & I know it wasn't directed towards me, but mine wasn't directed towards you either just adding my thoughts is all, doesn't really have to mean anything o. O
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After reading my post I can see that my "wasn't directed to you" could come across rather "unfriendly". Sorry for that , it wasn't meant in that vain. Your thoughts are as welcomed and pertinent as mine. Thanks

I tried safe mode and it seemed better at first but when i tried opening youtube, it stuttered a little before loading the app.

JippleStar said:
You can freeze apps from your Application Settings :3 From what I understand though, if you are truly experiencing some bad lag, the phone might be defective; in which case, I would get a replacement as soon as possible d: I have not experienced any significant lag other than the occasional recent app's button delay, but even that is hardly noticeable. Besides, if I spent about $800 on a device, I would hope that it is not laggy, right? XD Unacceptable!
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agreed. my retail note 4 has ZERO lag. my developer edition has ZERO lag. defective device or you have it completely full with too much running which i think would take a lot of apps etc because i am a heavy user and its still runs like butter

I should have time tuesday to transfer everything to my nexus 6, then im trying a reformat to see if the note 4 works any better.
If it works, ill keep it as a tablet for the note features.
If not i'll just stick with the nexus 6, im thinking stock would be a better experience (ive pretty much been a samsung guy)

Fix for crash to lock screen other than disable FP reader?

I was getting a ton of those random lock ups and crash to lock screen, disabling fingerprint reader made it stop but was wondering if there an alternate fix for this so I can enable the reader again?

What ROM are you running? Updated to OJ6 yet?
Have you removed Knox and ItsOn? They're not friendly with rooted devices. Have you applied this line to build.prop:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 (save and reboot)
Or, did you enable aggressive desktop in Nova or equivalent launcher?
You could help the issue with factory reset. Sometimes, users get some relief with cache and dalvik-cache wipe, but not always. Backing up keep sakes to extSdCard and multiple wipes of everything but extSdCard and data format and flash ROM again have been recommended in extreme situations; it seems to be becoming the norm for clean install- not just for CM to TW conversion or update prep. You can also delete Android folder on extSdCard and install minimum apps to localize or add apps individually until localized or happiness found.
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I'm on stock everything OJ6, not even rooted or tooted.

OTA, KIES or Odin for update? Did you factory reset prior to update?
If you were rooted before, did you wipe everything except extSdCard and format data and power down, remove battery greater than 30 seconds prior to Odin or KIES? If you didn't, try a factory reset.
There were plenty of stock complaints about the fingerprint unlock in OG5. It's a shame if it's not fixed in OJ6.
Anyone rooted on OJ6 and using fingerprint unlock having problems?
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It's not fixed in OJ6

Root it and 'tude it. I used the fingerprint unlock for a short period in OG5 with the settings above with no problem I can recall.
There's been some memory management improvement. Disappointing to hear update didn't fix stock.
I haven't made the jump to OJ6 but I'll do some more testing then.
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samep said:
OTA, KIES or Odin for update? Did you factory reset prior to update?
If you were rooted before, did you wipe everything except extSdCard and format data and power down, remove battery greater than 30 seconds prior to Odin or KIES? If you didn't, try a factory reset.
There were plenty of stock complaints about the fingerprint unlock in OG5. It's a shame if it's not fixed in OJ6.
Anyone rooted on OJ6 and using fingerprint unlock having problems?
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It was an OTA update. I don't think the phone was ever rooted, I got it from EBay but it came in complete original packaging in pristine condition.
Since disabling fingerprint the phone is running sooo much better, all the random lag and crashes are completely gone and battery life is great. At 57% remaing with ~16 hours since charge and ~3 hours screen time of watching YouTube vidoes, browsing Reddit and playing Fallout Shelter.
I was so excited to get this phone and all that lag and crashing kind of made me question my decision but now I'm getting the performance I expected. I'm coming from a Note 2 so it is a pretty big increase in features and performance. Hopefully they sort that issue out with Marshmallow. From what I've read we should be expecting some time around February.

frankx85 said:
It was an OTA update. I don't think the phone was ever rooted, I got it from EBay but it came in complete original packaging in pristine condition.
Since disabling fingerprint the phone is running sooo much better, all the random lag and crashes are completely gone and battery life is great. At 57% remaing with ~16 hours since charge and ~3 hours screen time of watching YouTube vidoes, browsing Reddit and playing Fallout Shelter.
I was so excited to get this phone and all that lag and crashing kind of made me question my decision but now I'm getting the performance I expected. I'm coming from a Note 2 so it is a pretty big increase in features and performance. Hopefully they sort that issue out with Marshmallow. From what I've read we should be expecting some time around February.
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The 1st generation finger scanner was junk at release. I've tried it recently and surprisingly, it's actually improved.
Perhaps a good many of us that would have cared, gave up long ago on the scanner? You might do a little better with root to wake for finger scan but no guarantee.
Sounds like you're enjoying the phone without the scanner unlock. Most likely not the hardware other than a poor excuse for a copied feature and don't care attitude for the new bug in Android 5.1.1 OS they carried over from OG5 to OJ6. Samsung is still feeling their way through their slump, hopefully, they're learning from mistakes.
That's not bad battery stats. Did you factory reset it? I've seen phones coming from KitKat to Lollipop having two different type file systems in /data/app folder and dalvik cache folder. I think this would make a phone lag and get warm. It's the reason I recommend clean installs and factory resets, especially when updating Android sdk rev. I mention this because the random reboots seem off even for scanner.
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