Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!
jack880 said:
Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!
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I didn't do it. In fact, I've never done it on any device. And mine is running beautifully. Then again if I've never done it I suppose I can't compare.
But, talk about inconvenient! Every time there's an update you're gonna wipe your tablet and all of your data? Then sit there and reapply all your settings, configurations, files and apps? Imagine having to reformat you PC every time there was a Windows update...
I think if people see an improvement after doing so, it isn't because this tactic does anything special. But because you've wiped your system and started fresh again, of course you'll see an improvement. Update or no update.
I say if you're experiencing issues, it's worth doing to possibly remedy the problem(s).
jack880 said:
Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!
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Yes!! After a reset, its like day and night! reset is the key along with killing some of the Samsung apps, s voice home button, and turning off all 3 animations from developer options.
imagine cars said:
Yes!! After a reset, its like day and night! reset is the key along with killing some of the Samsung apps, s voice home button, and turning off all 3 animations from developer options.
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What exactly does every update do to require a factory reset?
vdc530 said:
What exactly does every update do to require a factory reset?
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Updates do not require factory resets. The OP was just mentioning that he reset after the update and his system runs great.
The truth is that all your hard work setting up your device is gone and you must do it all over again.
miked0602 said:
Updates do not require factory resets. The OP was just mentioning that he reset after the update and his system runs great.
The truth is that all your hard work setting up your device is gone and you must do it all over again.
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Exactly my point. The system runs great not because the update did anything to slow it down, but because he did a system restore. The update had no effect, good or bad.
vdc530 said:
Exactly my point. The system runs great not because the update did anything to slow it down, but because he did a system restore. The update had no effect, good or bad.
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Well now the update can improve performance in itself, but not always as some are just security updates.
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Well now the update can improve performance in itself, but not always as some are just security updates.
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I meant the sole fact that you're updating won't effect the performance. This entire thread has been about doing a factory reset because of an update, as if an update regardless of what it's for will someone hurt your performance.
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Okay so since I flashed the Google images from 41d to 41f after it gets past the boot animation it comes up to android is updating each time. Anyone else out there experiencing this or is it suppose to happen? Not big deal just wondering.
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Do you have an update file on your Storage? Perhaps it's looking for one at every bootup?
Just a guess.
I have same problem. Could you be more specific? For what exactly to look and where?
Mine did that before and after flashing. Seen it happpening in video reviews when the phone boots up too...very common?
Nope wiped the "sdcard" and fastboot the whole image from google.
Glad I'm not the only one out there having this happen.
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Okay I got it to stop but here is what I did and now understand what it does.
Wipe dalvik and cache
Flashed this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372376
It then rebuilt the dalvik cache and cache on first boot and havent seen it since
Maybe if one of you are will to try this method out to see if it keeps happening
Wipe dalvik and cache
Then reboot
If that works then its just dalvik cache and cache that needed to be cleared out.
Just tried your last suggestion and it didn't work. The only difference was, that after wipe cache and restart, android upgrading start optimizing the applications. This take about 3 minutes (it's deppends of how many apps you have). After second reboot it just say Android updating and start immediately after that. I'm start thinking this is not a bug, but a feature.
Mine's done it since I bought it, just figured it was a feature.
well i think its just starting all the background services before you get to the homescreen... maybe to prevent laggs in the first seconds after start?
Pyrotechnic said:
Mine's done it since I bought it, just figured it was a feature.
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Same here, I always thought it was normal that it is just checking for updates on startup.
sabooher said:
Same here, I always thought it was normal that it is just checking for updates on startup.
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Same here. I thought it was a little weird at first, but it doesn't really bother me. Only takes a couple of seconds.
G1ost-26 said:
well i think its just starting all the background services before you get to the homescreen... maybe to prevent laggs in the first seconds after start?
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sabooher said:
Same here, I always thought it was normal that it is just checking for updates on startup.
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Most probably for both reasons
Maybe we will find out more since they just release 4.0.2
At least I am not the only one. Makes me feel a little better...but with over 100 apps it takes a while to finish...grumble.
Hosehead said:
At least I am not the only one. Makes me feel a little better...but with over 100 apps it takes a while to finish...grumble.
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Hmm, I'd have thought it was only checking/updating the Android OS, not all your apps?
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It's completely normal, doesn't anyone use the search function on this forum?
Ok, you say it's normal, all i know is that when i used a stock ROM with no mods/tweaks, just CWM and SuperSU it didn't happen
After the ICS update on my non-rooted phone, the phone seems to be freezing
up and becoming unresponsive. After a while it looks like the radio "resets", all
the icons disappear in the top bar (signal, wifi, data) and it shows no service.
Then slowly one by one they all come back and I can use the phone again.
Sometimes I receive the "System is not responding" dialog box, but not always.
There is not one particular program it is doing this in, it can be something as
simple as pulling down the notification bar that will cause the freeze.
Any suggestions are appreciated, I couldn't find anyone else with the same issue.
Thanks.
Try:
Turn off phone
Take out SIM
Put SIM back
Turn on
I've had my phone act weird with respect to signal, wifi and data when this was the issue. Worth a shot, at the very least.
Digital_Buddha said:
Try:
Turn off phone
Take out SIM
Put SIM back
Turn on
I've had my phone act weird with respect to signal, wifi and data when this was the issue. Worth a shot, at the very least.
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Thank you for the response.
Tried this and had the system is unresponsive issue right on reboot. If I do a
factory reset, does it reset to the current firmware or what was originally on the
phone (probably a really stupid question). I wonder if some other program isn't
ICS compatible and is doing something in the background. Doesn't look like
anyone else is having this same issue.
jdscully said:
Thank you for the response.
Tried this and had the system is unresponsive issue right on reboot. If I do a
factory reset, does it reset to the current firmware or what was originally on the
phone (probably a really stupid question). I wonder if some other program isn't
ICS compatible and is doing something in the background. Doesn't look like
anyone else is having this same issue.
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If you do a factory reset and it was the standard Kies legit update from Tmo, it won't downgrade your phone - will just re-install a fresh copy of your ICS. Did you do a restore of apps from your last version (gb?) with data? That could cause problems I would think..
VoiD_Dweller said:
If you do a factory reset and it was the standard Kies legit update from Tmo, it won't downgrade your phone - will just re-install a fresh copy of your ICS. Did you do a restore of apps from your last version (gb?) with data? That could cause problems I would think..
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Yes I did the legit update on Kies, standard stock phone un-rooted.
Do I need to backup pictures before the reset, its been a while since
I had to do this.
At this point, I think its worth a try to wipe it clean and clear out all the
data.
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Yes I did the legit update on Kies, standard stock phone un-rooted.
Do I need to backup pictures before the reset, its been a while since
I had to do this.
At this point, I think its worth a try to wipe it clean and clear out all the
data.
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wipe the dalvik cache and cache then reboot
I did a factory reset and that solved the issue.
Thanks for all the assistance.
I've done a factory reset and wiped the cache more than once already and i still get a force close or unresponsive, enough that its really irritating me now. Any advice? And also, when texting, the typing responds very slow.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA
itsdamage said:
I've done a factory reset and wiped the cache more than once already and i still get a force close or unresponsive, enough that its really irritating me now. Any advice? And also, when texting, the typing responds very slow.
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Are you letting it sit for like 10 minutes during first boot after factory reset then reboot again before setting up. Its likely that some scripts are running from the initial installation and you need to let it rot until its done..
I did exactly that, thanks for the advice. Hoping that may fix the problem. I wiped the cache and factory reset, then let the phone sit for a good while before going through the play store and re-installing everything.
This issue just resurfaced again. The last 2 days I am getting the freezing, radio reboot and android process not responding.
No one else having this issue?
I think I'm in the same boat. I was stock GB, and just did the mini OTA update (which was great). A few days later ICS became available via Kies from T-Mobile, and I "upgraded".
Since the upgrade my phone is laggy, screen is significantly less responsive and also my battery life is less than before.
I have NOT done a factory reset of my phone yes (plan on doing that today), but even with that I have read that performance does not improve.
Ideally, I would love to return back to the stock tmobile gb firmware. However, even after literally 2 hours of reading I can't find the "how-to" and files I need.
I would appreciate any assistance.
t989 chip lags
ive notice this happen on my tmobile galaxy s2. i think it has to do with the Qualcomm chip on tmobiles stock roms.
When i had sprint i bought my girlfriend a galaxy s2 on the sprint network which runs the samsung exynos chip. She never complained about any lag or freezing whatsoever. I then left sprint because of their garbage network and joined tmobile.
bought 2 galaxy s2s and i noticed the lag almost immediately. The phone has random lag spikes as well as freezing and force closes. It had it on stock gingerbread and it has it on stock ICS too.
My girlfriend complains about freezing all the time so i decided to root her phone too. Right now im testing DarkSides v7 rom and if its pretty good in performance i will flash her phone with it too. So far it has been pretty snappy and everything works.
jdscully said:
This issue just resurfaced again. The last 2 days I am getting the freezing, radio reboot and android process not responding.
No one else having this issue?
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Yes i have the exact same problem...and the clock goes off too...if i don't reboot then this will keep happening...if you go into settings then development settings and tick off only let 4 process run in the background it should stop...try it and let me know
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tonydetroit said:
I think I'm in the same boat. I was stock GB, and just did the mini OTA update (which was great). A few days later ICS became available via Kies from T-Mobile, and I "upgraded".
Since the upgrade my phone is laggy, screen is significantly less responsive and also my battery life is less than before.
I have NOT done a factory reset of my phone yes (plan on doing that today), but even with that I have read that performance does not improve.
Ideally, I would love to return back to the stock tmobile gb firmware. However, even after literally 2 hours of reading I can't find the "how-to" and files I need.
I would appreciate any assistance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668502
follow that first post. i went through exactly the same problems and found this guide and am now happy again and running stock GB on my Galaxy S2.
Because you are on stock ics (im guessing you are..), you can just follow that guide and flash the UVLDE update.
Yes clock resets to standard standard time.. I already did a factory reset and worked done for a couple weeks. My wife has same phone and she is getting the freeze ups now.
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Yes clock resets to standard standard time.. I already did a factory reset and worked done for a couple weeks. My wife has same phone and she is getting the freeze ups now.
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Yeah really sux...it's random..I'm using a custom kernel and still having that problem....
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Yup here too. Almost reminds me of XP. Really ticking me off & it never happened on gingerbread. Rooted now & before I'm on rogers 4.0.4. wondering if there's going to be fix? Haven't seen if Google / rogers /at&t have commented?
Sent from, The Eclectic Chair.
I'm getting the freezes as well even after doing a factory reset.
It sucks, I'm waiting for cyanogen to release a stable release and then I'm switching.
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Yes i have the exact same problem...and the clock goes off too...if i don't reboot then this will keep happening...if you go into settings then development settings and tick off only let 4 process run in the background it should stop...try it and let me know
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Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try. But it really shouldn't be necessary on a phone that's got more going for it than the stock nexus that 1st came out with ics.
There's something else going on.
Sent from, The Eclectic Chair.
Seems like the new update is causing a lot of lag and frame rate drops. If I'm being honest I love this phone just the way it is and don't need nougat. Is there any way to not get the incessant notifications that usually come with not updating the phone without root? I will root if necessary, just curious...
Did you clear the cache partition? I always factory wipe /reset after a major update. Seems the people that do for nougat have their lag go away.
See if you can disable the Update app, doubtful but possible.
With root though one can just freeze the app with something like Titanium Backup.
Yeah with root I know a number of ways to do it. I used to root and rom every phone I've owned haha. But with this one I haven't felt the need. It's seriously perfect the way it is. Fast and awesome on battery. The only thing that's meh is memory management... But I can deal with that. That is a good idea that I hadn't thought of though. Anyone know what moto is calling it?
rile1564 said:
Did you clear the cache partition? I always factory wipe /reset after a major update. Seems the people that do for nougat have their lag go away.
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I haven't done the update yet I'm in the US so it has yet to drop for me. I'd like to avoid doing it though when it does drop.
I'm on RETUS as well. I'll let you know if I get any problems with the update, after I wipe data.
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Seems like the new update is causing a lot of lag and frame rate drops. If I'm being honest I love this phone just the way it is and don't need nougat. Is there any way to not get the incessant notifications that usually come with not updating the phone without root? I will root if necessary, just curious...
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No root needed
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/app-moto-z-play-apps-stop-ota-motocare-t3538812
So, I flashed the Sept. Pie update WITH the -w. Some things were being screwy so it just needed to happen. So, got the phone setup and started the restore from Google backup. It's been sitting at the same spot (like barely any color on the left side...) for almost 3 hours now... Has this happened to anyone else? I don't see the option to restore in settings, maybe it's just not showing because it's currently trying to restore, but, I think I need to start it over if possible. Never had this problem during setup, so, I'm not sure it is. It also has never taken 3 hours to complete, let alone hardly do anything.
Let me know if anyone has any know on this!
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So, I flashed the Sept. Pie update WITH the -w. Some things were being screwy so it just needed to happen. So, got the phone setup and started the restore from Google backup. It's been sitting at the same spot (like barely any color on the left side...) for almost 3 hours now... Has this happened to anyone else? I don't see the option to restore in settings, maybe it's just not showing because it's currently trying to restore, but, I think I need to start it over if possible. Never had this problem during setup, so, I'm not sure it is. It also has never taken 3 hours to complete, let alone hardly do anything.
Let me know if anyone has any know on this!
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Were you on 8 or 9 prior to flashing Sept Pie update?
parakleet said:
Were you on 8 or 9 prior to flashing Sept Pie update?
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9. I rebooted the phone and still could not find an option to restore. Even Google'd it. Nothing. Doing a factory reset now. So stupid. Why would there not be an option to restore in settings? Only immediately after a reset? Bah
It appears the second reset and setup/restore is working. Weird. Anyway, glad it's actually going to work! I thought I might be setting it back up completely.
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It appears the second reset and setup/restore is working. Weird. Anyway, glad it's actually going to work! I thought I might be setting it back up completely.
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Very
But i had some weird similar things as well lately.
Makes you wonder if google does this on purpose to make the Pixel 3 more attractive? lol
parakleet said:
Very
But i had some weird similar things as well lately.
Makes you wonder if google does this on purpose to make the Pixel 3 more attractive? lol
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If this were a Samsung phone, I would say absolutely to that. But, nah, I don't think so. Pie just came out, there's probably a few little weird bugs left to fix yet.
Now I can't get my Gear S3 to finish setting up though... I thought the compatibility was fixed. Not sure what to do? God I can't wait for new Wear OS watches (with the new chip). No more Samsung for me ever again.
After the latest update on 10+, function for Bluetooth, on pictures, gone...along with several other options. I'm sending a screenshot. What you see, that's it. Thought I had to scroll down, but nope
What update?
Go to the Wearables app.
All permissions need to be enabled.
Goggle Play Services must be enable at least initially.
Clear system cache.
Network reset.
Last night, came up UI one version 4
Rule #1 if an OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be.
This N10+ is still running on Pie, it's current load will be 2yo in June. Fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. Updates especially firmware can break things, permanently. The highest I would upgrade the N10+ to is Android 10. I also have one N10+ running well on 10.
I see no valid reason to upgrade either. Security simply is not an issue with these devices as such.
You'll need to find a workaround if the solutions I provided fail to work.
In addition see if any Wearables updates are available. Other related app updates as well.
If you get tired of trying to find the issue, factory reset. It may or may not work...
blackhawk said:
Rule #1 if an OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be.
This N10+ is still running on Pie, it's current load will be 2yo in June. Fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. Updates especially firmware can break things, permanently. The highest I would upgrade the N10+ to is Android 10. I also have one N10+ running well on 10.
I see no valid reason to upgrade either. Security simply is not an issue with these devices as such.
You'll need to find a workaround if the solutions I provided fail to work.
In addition see if any Wearables updates are available. Other related app updates as well.
If you get tired of trying to find the issue, factory reset. It may or may not work...
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I just updated, as usual. Unfortunately find errors afterwards
J448BLE said:
I just updated, as usual. Unfortunately find errors afterwards
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J448BLE said:
I just updated, as usual. Unfortunately find errors afterwards
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After updates clear the system cache.
I'll try that. Where do I go?
Boot menu.
Where's that?
Power off. Hold the volume up button immediately after engaging the power on button. Continue to hold the volume up button until the menu appears.
I won't lose information off my phone?
J448BLE said:
I won't lose information off my phone?
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No. Just don't mistaken hit the factory reset option next to it.
OK. Cheers bud
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After the latest update on 10+, function for Bluetooth, on pictures, gone...along with several other options. I'm sending a screenshot. What you see, that's it. Thought I had to scroll down, but nope
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On the bottom row, you have to scroll right until you see the ellipses (three dots). Click that and scroll down until you find Bluetooth.
That works. Used to scrolling down, never realised scroll right. Cheers
Samsung likes to hide settings sometimes. Some appear only if you double tap a word or box for example.
Nervous tapping sometimes does solve problems...
So true!