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[Q] Factory reset after OTA updates

Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!

jack880 said:
Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!
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I didn't do it. In fact, I've never done it on any device. And mine is running beautifully. Then again if I've never done it I suppose I can't compare.
But, talk about inconvenient! Every time there's an update you're gonna wipe your tablet and all of your data? Then sit there and reapply all your settings, configurations, files and apps? Imagine having to reformat you PC every time there was a Windows update...
I think if people see an improvement after doing so, it isn't because this tactic does anything special. But because you've wiped your system and started fresh again, of course you'll see an improvement. Update or no update.
I say if you're experiencing issues, it's worth doing to possibly remedy the problem(s).

jack880 said:
Is this necessary?
If it is, I will do it, but really don't want to if it's not!
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Yes!! After a reset, its like day and night! reset is the key along with killing some of the Samsung apps, s voice home button, and turning off all 3 animations from developer options.

imagine cars said:
Yes!! After a reset, its like day and night! reset is the key along with killing some of the Samsung apps, s voice home button, and turning off all 3 animations from developer options.
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What exactly does every update do to require a factory reset?

vdc530 said:
What exactly does every update do to require a factory reset?
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Updates do not require factory resets. The OP was just mentioning that he reset after the update and his system runs great.
The truth is that all your hard work setting up your device is gone and you must do it all over again.

miked0602 said:
Updates do not require factory resets. The OP was just mentioning that he reset after the update and his system runs great.
The truth is that all your hard work setting up your device is gone and you must do it all over again.
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Exactly my point. The system runs great not because the update did anything to slow it down, but because he did a system restore. The update had no effect, good or bad.

vdc530 said:
Exactly my point. The system runs great not because the update did anything to slow it down, but because he did a system restore. The update had no effect, good or bad.
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Well now the update can improve performance in itself, but not always as some are just security updates.

miked0602 said:
Well now the update can improve performance in itself, but not always as some are just security updates.
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I meant the sole fact that you're updating won't effect the performance. This entire thread has been about doing a factory reset because of an update, as if an update regardless of what it's for will someone hurt your performance.

Lots of different small issues

Hi all
I have been using this phone for a month, and I have experienced a lot of different small issues, I hope someone may have solution to them.
Phone:
Mi A2 Lite, rooted (Magisk) Android one pie, January update. Has a screen protector.
Apps:
Here are some apps that I think may cause the issue that I mention below, these apps are Nova and datally. Really can't think of a third one, I don't use any cleaning app or battery performance app.
Issue:
1. Typing experience is horrible. Using stock google input, the keyboard is not very sensitive and accurate. The letter just can't be recognized even though I am sure I have pressed the key and pressed the right key. So my typing is really slow, the key doesn't display immediately (it does seem to have a delay), and for some reason I always type wrong and missing some letters, so gotta use backspace a lot.
2. It always wakes up randomly in my pocket, so I may take the phone out with torch on and airplane mode on without my awareness.
3. When I am on a call, I can accidentally press some random on screen keys.
4. The background apps AWALYS get killed, even though I have turned the battery optimization off globally, and the individual apps that I never want to be killed.
5. Messaging service apps have huge delay when delivering the notification. It may only show when I open the app. Used PNF app but couldn't fix the problem.
Does anyone have the same issue and know the fix?
I hope it is only the software problem (Pie system) and maybe I can fix it by flashing a better rom, but I don't seem to find a stable official custom ROM for Mi A2 Lite (even lineage OS is unofficial)
Many thanks

luckyvictor said:
Hi all
I have been using this phone for a month, and I have experienced a lot of different small issues, I hope someone may have solution to them.
Phone:
Mi A2 Lite, rooted (Magisk) Android one pie, January update. Has a screen protector.
Apps:
Here are some apps that I think may cause the issue that I mention below, these apps are Nova and datally. Really can't think of a third one, I don't use any cleaning app or battery performance app.
Issue:
1. Typing experience is horrible. Using stock google input, the keyboard is not very sensitive and accurate. The letter just can't be recognized even though I am sure I have pressed the key and pressed the right key. So my typing is really slow, the key doesn't display immediately (it does seem to have a delay), and for some reason I always type wrong and missing some letters, so gotta use backspace a lot.
2. It always wakes up randomly in my pocket, so I may take the phone out with torch on and airplane mode on without my awareness.
3. When I am on a call, I can accidentally press some random on screen keys.
4. The background apps AWALYS get killed, even though I have turned the battery optimization off globally, and the individual apps that I never want to be killed.
5. Messaging service apps have huge delay when delivering the notification. It may only show when I open the app. Used PNF app but couldn't fix the problem.
Does anyone have the same issue and know the fix?
I hope it is only the software problem (Pie system) and maybe I can fix it by flashing a better rom, but I don't seem to find a stable official custom ROM for Mi A2 Lite (even lineage OS is unofficial)
Many thanks
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Try to update I never had any of those issues

I have also these problems. I have February update.

madmanwild said:
I have also these problems. I have February update.
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Do you have all these problems? or just one or two? After seeing my configuration/apps that I installed, do you think is it app related or system related?

rob420p said:
Try to update I never had any of those issues
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not even one of these? Your background app never get killed?
Are you using Stock Android One? did you root your phone?

luckyvictor said:
Do you have all these problems? or just one or two? After seeing my configuration/apps that I installed, do you think is it app related or system related?
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all these problems without wakes up in pocket. killing the background application is the biggest problem for me (I use a lot of smart home app- eWelink,Room Heat,Magic Home) and it's horrible. ewelink starts 5sec after kill, Room Heat - frequent crash like a white screen...
the next problem is huge delay when delivering the notification....
I am on Stock Android One-February update,I'm allowed only cam2api...

madmanwild said:
all these problems without wakes up in pocket. killing the background application is the biggest problem for me (I use a lot of smart home app- eWelink,Room Heat,Magic Home) and it's horrible. ewelink starts 5sec after kill, Room Heat - frequent crash like a white screen...
the next problem is huge delay when delivering the notification....
I am on Stock Android One-February update,I'm allowed only cam2api...
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You have battery optimization off? any battery improvement app? I think all these is because the 'intelligence' in Android is playing up, it doesn't understand exactly how we use the app. However, even have it turned off, the problem exists....

luckyvictor said:
not even one of these? Your background app never get killed?
Are you using Stock Android One? did you root your phone?
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I am on stock but I do have root.havent done much modification yet waiting for twrp

rob420p said:
I am on stock but I do have root.havent done much modification yet waiting for twrp
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Don't understand why there is such different, did you have battery optimisation off and all time since the first day you use the device?

luckyvictor said:
Don't understand why there is such different, did you have battery optimisation off and all time since the first day you use the device?
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Honestly I don't think so I really haven't messed with the battery besides putting a %

luckyvictor said:
You have battery optimization off? any battery improvement app? I think all these is because the 'intelligence' in Android is playing up, it doesn't understand exactly how we use the app. However, even have it turned off, the problem exists....
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Yes, all off - battery adaptation and manually set no optimization on my app...

Uresponsive black screen after updating to Android 10

After updating to 10, a few times a day my phone becomes completely unresponsive. Since the screen is off, I'm not even sure if the phone is powering off. I've flashed the factory image to see if starting clean would fix it, but that didn't work. Anybody else experiencing this?

darkstar73 said:
After updating to 10, a few times a day my phone becomes completely unresponsive. Since the screen is off, I'm not even sure if the phone is powering off. I've flashed the factory image to see if starting clean would fix it, but that didn't work. Anybody else experiencing this?
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No, but you may be installing an app that is causing it. Try replicating the issue in safe mode. Ruling that out, if you have done a clean install using the full image (not ota) and allowed it to wipe your data there is not much more to do before contacting Google. A clean install restores your phone to its "out of the box" state. If the problem persists, it is likely hardware related. You can try a factory reset from the stock recovery... that is the first thing they will insist you do before processing an RMA.

v12xke said:
No, but you may be installing an app that is causing it. Try replicating the issue in safe mode. Ruling that out, if you have done a clean install using the full image (not ota) and allowed it to wipe your data there is not much more to do before contacting Google. A clean install restores your phone to its "out of the box" state. If the problem persists, it is likely hardware related. You can try a factory reset from the stock recovery... that is the first thing they will insist you do before processing an RMA.
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I didn't have the issue on Pie and haven't installed any additional apps. It mainly happens after I haven't used the device for a while. It feels like it won't wake up so I have to hold the power button to force a reboot.

darkstar73 said:
After updating to 10, a few times a day my phone becomes completely unresponsive. Since the screen is off, I'm not even sure if the phone is powering off. I've flashed the factory image to see if starting clean would fix it, but that didn't work. Anybody else experiencing this?
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Yes.
I was just peaking to a buddy with a 2xl and he is having the same issue since 10.

I have an issue where after about two day of it being on it will start to stutter, and then after a couple hours it reboots itself. It's done it since 10 was released. Never had an issue on 9. Now I proactively reboot it once I notice the stuttering. Kind of sucks since 9 was super stable for me. No new apps, and no settings were changed. Just updated to 10, and it started. Kind of like memory is leaking causing it to stutter/freeze, but the last patch they said they fixed the leak. Guess not.

bobbyphoenix said:
I have an issue where after about two day of it being on it will start to stutter, and then after a couple hours it reboots itself. It's done it since 10 was released. Never had an issue on 9. Now I proactively reboot it once I notice the stuttering. Kind of sucks since 9 was super stable for me. No new apps, and no settings were changed. Just updated to 10, and it started. Kind of like memory is leaking causing it to stutter/freeze, but the last patch they said they fixed the leak. Guess not.
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I just had a random reboot while taking my dog for a walk. Was only listening to SiriusXM. Think I'm going back to Pie until Google gets the kinks ironed out on 10.

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/14074635?hl=en

Booted into safe mode last night and had to force a reboot this morning to get the screen to respond. This is definitely an issue with 10 and not an app. I'm going back to Pie since having my phone turn off every night is unacceptable, especially since my phone is my alarm clock.

I took the OTA before setting up my new P3XL on A10 and don't have any issues. You might try wiping data then restore apps without data.

droidstyle said:
I took the OTA before setting up my new P3XL on A10 and don't have any issues. You might try wiping data then restore apps without data.
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I flashed the A10 Oct factory image and wiped data. Still have the issue. The only thing that fixes it is going back to Pie.

So this happened to me twice now since being on 10. My screen would go black while using the phone, and then the phone would be unresponsive, so I would need to force a reboot, but after the Google splash screen it goes into recovery, and this message shows "Could not load Android OS. You can try again, or factory reset.". I did "Try again" both times, and it booted fine. Really irks me since I can't afford to do a factory reset since I use a lot of apps that have special info in them (Like Google Auth App that has many devices I need, and resetting I would have to redo every device). I hope Google can fix these issues with the next update.

I think my issue is due to the sensor bug that was introduced in 10. I have disabled the sensors on my phone and it hasn't froze since!! Hopefully Google fixes on the Nov update.

I'm having the issue that after my screen turns off, after a certain amount of time, I cannot get it to turn back on. The phone is still on, but is unresponsive to my input. I have to hard reset.
I have tried reflashing, and tried disabling sensors. I did not have an issue with the 10 September updated, but since updating to the November update, I had the issue non-stop all day.
Platform-Tools fully updated, not using gesture navigation, but the 2-button.

@MeetFace, yes! Same here since the November update. Something isn't right.

I'm still dealing with the black screen issue. Nov update didn't fix it.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/143288447

Update, I read in a thread somewhere that disabling darkmode fixed it for one person (rando I know).
I created a tasker script that disables darkmode once the screen shuts off, and enables it when it turns back on. So far, no BSOD this morning (4 hrs)
FWIW

MeetFace said:
Update, I read in a thread somewhere that disabling darkmode fixed it for one person (rando I know).
I created a tasker script that disables darkmode once the screen shuts off, and enables it when it turns back on. So far, no BSOD this morning (4 hrs)
FWIW
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Can you share the tasker script? I love darkmode, but have never used tasker.

darkstar73 said:
Can you share the tasker script? I love darkmode, but have never used tasker.
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Yep
https://taskernet.com/shares/?user=...uZXbuaEqxZTMoTxnDDk1yI=&id=Profile:Screen+Off

MeetFace said:
Yep
https://taskernet.com/shares/?user=...uZXbuaEqxZTMoTxnDDk1yI=&id=Profile:Screen+Off
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How can you tell this is working? I've got it setup ??

MeetFace said:
Yep
https://taskernet.com/shares/?user=...uZXbuaEqxZTMoTxnDDk1yI=&id=Profile:Screen+Off
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Thanks for this! Phone hasn't gotten a frozen black screen since I loaded the script!

SAMSUNG NOTE 10 PLUS SCREEN (NOT DIMMING/TIMEOUT)

Hello!
I have an issue here with my Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus
-screen not dimming / no time out when cable is not connected to charger
however , the phone acts normally (screen dimming out after x seconds as in the settings)
Phone is working however screen is not timing out when not connected to charger.
Hope someone could help.

do you recall when the issue started? did you remove bloatware packages. what apps do you have running. did you try in safe mode

More than likely either a hidden setting you've toggled or a 3rd party app. I recall a setting somewhere in dev setting I believe on this. If not try safe mode for a while and see if it happens then

after upgrade. would love to just do workarounds like macro etc , just dont know where to start.
Thanks for the response raul
I resolved the problem by installing custom firmware, not sure if it is just a bug on stock latest rom. Anyways this is resolved and i'm happy with the cr7 for note 10 plus. It resolved my problem plus it made my note 10 a tad faster and smoother
Xiao

Remember to clear the system cache after small updates or when experiencing odd behavior.
Sometimes a hard reboot works.
Any major upgrade needs a factory reset.
Avoid firmware updates if your 10+ is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission.
I'm still on Pie, current OS load is over a year old with no issues, rock solid stable and fast.

blackhawk said:
Remember to clear the system cache after small updates or when experiencing odd behavior.
Sometimes a hard reboot works.
Any major upgrade needs a factory reset.
Avoid firmware updates if your 10+ is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission.
I'm still on Pie, current OS load is over a year old with no issues, rock solid stable and fast.
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True sir. However in my case I did all of the mentioned steps above to no avail. The only solution is to flash a custom firmware.
Thank you very much and have a great day.

henryfranz2005 said:
True sir. However in my case I did all of the mentioned steps above to no avail. The only solution is to flash a custom firmware.
Thank you very much and have a great day.
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It should run right on the original stock firmware if it was running ok on it before.
That it's not may indicate a mobo failure. You found a work around for now but keep an eye on it. Maybe a C port PCB failure... they can do strange things.

Question Issues afteratest update

S21fe updated to UI5.
Couple of issues.... Fingerprint reader sometimes doesn't work when phone hasn't been used for some time. When it happens I need to double tap the screen to wake it up and then scan my fingerprint again.
Also "back" gesture (where I swipe up from the right bottom of the screen) sometimes instead of going back brings up the list of background apps.
Both issues very annoying.
Anyone else experienced anything similar?

Try clearing the system cache. Double check all settings. If that flaws things get more complicated...
A factory reset may be needed, but hard to say if it will resolve the issues. Someone will need to try the latter if the former doesn't work. A global reset of settings is a less drastic option but it may not be enough and still take a lot of time.
This is one reason why I spurn upgrades on a platform that's fulfilling its mission. Lol, I'm still using UI 1.5, no glaring issues.
Unfortunately with latter versions an upgrade may resolve flaws in earlier post >1.5 variants. Tough choice once you are on Android 11 as there's no roll back on stock Samsung's for that. I wasn't locked into using 11 on my N10+'s and never will load it. 12 is even worse.
Roll back is an option for you if bootloader wasn't upgraded too. Eventually Samsung will fix it if it's a firmware/software glitch but don't hold your breath for that

blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache
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With each major update, I always clean the system cache from the recovery !

jbs68 said:
With each major update, I always clean the system cache from the recovery !
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That may not be enough if going from 11 to 12, etc.
Rule #1 - if the OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be! You have little to gain and a lot to lose. Although there was a big security hole in 12, not sure if it was patched already or if the patch is in what you just install. Oddly that hole isn't in 9-11.
Gookill is a mess...

I have the same problem with fingerprint unlocking. It simply doesn't work (if I press the side button, it works). Some hours ago I wiped the system cache and after that, I didn't notice the described problem. I will see in the next few hours.

Now I changed "Fingerprints -> Show icon when screen is off" to "Tap to show" instead of "On always on display" which was the default after the upgrade to Android 13.
UPDATE: The phone still has the same problem. Sometimes it simply doesn't allow it to unlock with a fingerprint. The screen is locked as hell. Only the side button unlocks it.

If you go to Lock screen>Always On Display>Show always, does that solve your problem? Mine was set to "show for new notifications" only and the fingerprint icon would disapperar after locking it.

Mine was set to "Show for new notifications". As you suggested, I changed it to "Show always" and we will see, how it works. In my opinion, it is better to show display only when something happens. But something changed and problems occurred.

Report: it didn't help. I have found out that the issue appears if the phone is locked for a while and then a notification comes. This is the reason why this problem exists also while using Android Auto. It creates a notification when it connects ... and then the phone can be unlocked with a fingerprint until the side button is pressed. I'm sure this is a bug that didn't exist before the upgrade to Android 13.

no such issues here with the eu version. definitely an upgrade in every way.

After 3 days with Android 13 on snapdragon variant, only two minor issues found here : slow charging (2h20 from 0 to 100, less than 2h before) and an "unauthorized action due to modified device" screen when rebooting, disappearing by touching "OK" button. Don't know what is unauthorized but... well. I was rooted before, now stock unrooted and relocked bootloader. It doesn't seems to lock something, everything I use is working.

I have the same fingerprint issues after updating to UI5 (unlocking from turned off screen). Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It worked perfectly before I updated, didn't change any settings. Very annoying, hopefully it will be fixed in a future update.

d0j0m0j0 said:
I have the same fingerprint issues after updating to UI5 (unlocking from turned off screen). Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It worked perfectly before I updated, didn't change any settings. Very annoying, hopefully it will be fixed in a future update.
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The recent update with the December security patch seens to have resolved this issue for me.
Edit: scratch that, still not fixed...
Edit2: turning off lock scrern mods in Galaxy MaxHz seems to help.

jbs68 said:
With each major update, I always clean the system cache from the recovery !
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How does one do that?

xda-eh said:
How does one do that?
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It's on the boot menu on Samsung's.

blackhawk said:
It's on the boot menu on Samsung's.
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You're referring to accessing the recovery mode as explained here?

xda-eh said:
You're referring to accessing the recovery mode as explained here?
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This. Some have said Android 12 needs to be plugged into the PC to access the boot menu, don't know as I run Pie and Q.

blackhawk said:
This. Some have said Android 12 needs to be plugged into the PC to access the boot menu, don't know as I run Pie and Q.
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The link I provided and the one you did refer to the same thing. Only difference is my link also provides a way to do it via ADB. In any event, thanks for your response.