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Quick question about LG and Android updates!

Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates

martin9400 said:
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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I switched from Sammy note 1 to G2 then G3 and now have both G3 & G4. Never need run custom ROM B4. Only Stock ROM and Cloudyfa's Stock ROM. I just love the LG UX.
Now with G4 's UX 4.0 simply awesome. No lagging for me for I only have G4 for 2 days and no root. IDK what to tell you try it don't like it just return it xD. Even my 1 year old low end LG Gpad 7.0 V400 got Lollipop OTA update in April. What to complain when LG USA MOBILE send me a Brand New LG G4 H815 to keep.

Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?

Yeah, I'm wondering because it took my Z3 about an eon to update from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1, and that I really did not like. But hopefully this is an easier device to fiddle with when it comes to root and recovery than my old Z3, which was a pain in the butt sometimes. Had a good experience with my previous LG Optimus 4X HD when it came to getting it rooted with custom recovery, but man that phone is so old that it just lags when you barely look at it.

shineyads said:
Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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rogconnect said:
How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.

rogconnect said:
How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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Thanks for the info... Not sure what the childish 'so there' was about though!

rahlquist said:
True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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That's exactly why I always go for sim-free phones and avoid the networks/carriers - much better chance of getting updates sooner (although I appreciate the short-term expense makes this unavailable to some).

Unless you have a Nexus device, I wouldn't even hope to get updates. The G2 was slow as hell, and only received 1 update ever with TMO.

Updates from LG are really good and fast. I have G3 and I can not complain.

Great story

hopefully lg goes straight to android m

Depends on the device. In the UK no G2s have Lollipop yet. Not even SIM free ones.

How is the LG Dev community? Is LG modder-friendly?

The G6 seems to have a really active dev community. Is that a one off or is that constant? Is it easy to root LG devices? I have a choice between this of the S9+ and I can't decide on what to go for.

sacredsoul said:
The G6 seems to have a really active dev community. Is that a one off or is that constant? Is it easy to root LG devices? I have a choice between this of the S9+ and I can't decide on what to go for.
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I can't speak on behalf of the LG community as of late but the last time I had one, the G4, there was plenty of people wanting to mod/create ROM's but couldn't due to LG's restrictive bootloader unlock nature.
If it means anything, I wouldn't grab the Snapdragon 845 version of the S9+ either. If you want to root/flash ROM's, you need to get the Exynos version of the S9+. I wouldn't, as there is reportedly severe battery issues with the Exynos chipset. Getting root on the S8+ with the Snapdragon version took a very very long time whereas there was virtually no wait for the Exynos version.
I really hope there's some development for the G7!

I think it died after the G4. Just the for traffic alone in these G7 forums, should show that not many are interested in LG anymore. If it weren't for the free phones promo, I prolly wouldn't even get an LG.

The V20 had a pretty nice community for T-Mobile at least and even somewhat still does. The reason I got the Note 8 over the V30 was it had and still currently has root which I need in order to even use a phone to my liking. If the G7 or V40 has a nice root community I might get the V40. However at this point I'm likely just getting a Oneplus 6. As at this point I doubt we'll have root on the Note 9 Snapdragon version or T-Mobile devices as a whole. They used to be really root friendly like Sprint then once they became big they became pretty bad from a customer standpoint. They definitely are better than the other big two but not the carrier I fled to years ago.

20degrees said:
I think it died after the G4. Just the for traffic alone in these G7 forums, should show that not many are interested in LG anymore. If it weren't for the free phones promo, I prolly wouldn't even get an LG.
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This is the damned truth. I wouldn't have purchased the G7 has it not been for the buy one get one free thing..

Use to be the go to dev friendly brand...not anymore. I really wish a mainstream brand would allow for this stuff, but it seems the carriers won.

Seems like OnePlus is the way to go. Or perhaps Xiaomi. None of the mainstream brands unfortunately.

sacredsoul said:
Seems like OnePlus is the way to go. Or perhaps Xiaomi. None of the mainstream brands unfortunately.
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Like who may care still in 2018 for custom ROM developments when everything works fine in stock ROM, even EAS is supported.

Billy Madison said:
Like who may care still in 2018 for custom ROM developments when everything works fine in stock ROM, even EAS is supported.
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Lol then why are you in the xda for then if you dont care about custom roms? And the simple answer is AOSP.

sickkside13 said:
Lol then why are you in the xda for then if you dont care about custom roms? And the simple answer is AOSP.
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I don't exactly agree with the AOSP comment, but yeah...there are other forums if you only have questions to be answered.

Billy Madison said:
Like who may care still in 2018 for custom ROM developments when everything works fine in stock ROM, even EAS is supported.
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When LG invariably stops supporting this phone 9 months into it's life, and you want to at least have security patches on it....

LG V30 with Android PIE 9.0

The LG V30 US998*running*Android Pie 9.0 was spotted in the GeekBench database.
https://www.mylgphones.com/unlocked-lg-v30-us998-spotted-on-geekbench-running-android-pie.html
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/11025404
Is it with Android 9.0 from LG official or a custom AOSP Android 9.0 ROM?

Very very very very doubtful its official LG, especially because its the US variant, first all korean variants will get the update, and then, some time later the others will

We're supposed to get Pie in Q1 of 2019 according to LG.
But I wouldn't hold your breath. They certainly won't release it before that time.

TPMJB said:
We're supposed to get Pie in Q1 of 2019 according to LG.
But I wouldn't hold your breath. They certainly won't release it before that time.
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Where does LG say that? They never give a timeline or date prediction that I've seen. Don't trust various sites stating when they predict LG will give Pie.
Also, first ones to get PIE we'll be Korean carrier variants -- yeah, possibly Q1 2019... But everyone else will be months after that. Will be at least Q2 for rest of us, just like Oreo earlier this year.

ChazzMatt said:
Where does LG say that? They never give a timeline or date prediction that I've seen. Don't trust various sites stating when they think LG will give Pie.
Also, first ones to get PIE we'll be Korean carrier variants -- yeah, possibly Q1 2019... But everyone else will be months after that. Will be at least Q2, just like Oreo earlier this year.
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Someone posted a source that cited LG in some other thread. I forget. I thought it was a legit source, but I could be mistaken

I decide to e-mail to LG with knowledge that they not gonna tell me truth and see what they said :laugh: Anyway Im changing phone soon so for me they can do what they want.. Soo long we had to wait for Oreo.. Samsung Huawei Nokia etc have Pie already but LG decide to do 3 more phones instead of sustem update.. Maybe in 2019 they will say something official..

Snip3rPolska said:
I decide to e-mail to LG with knowledge that they not gonna tell me truth and see what they said :laugh: Anyway Im changing phone soon so for me they can do what they want.. Soo long we had to wait for Oreo.. Samsung Huawei Nokia etc have Pie already but LG decide to do 3 more phones instead of sustem update.. Maybe in 2019 they will say something official..
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The tech support usually, even if they would have the information (which by far isnt always the case, who would give some confidential information to basically the lowest people in the hirachy?), not allowed to tell that anyone.
Thats the sad thing about that :/

ChazzMatt said:
Where does LG say that? They never give a timeline or date prediction that I've seen. Don't trust various sites stating when they predict LG will give Pie.
Also, first ones to get PIE we'll be Korean carrier variants -- yeah, possibly Q1 2019... But everyone else will be months after that. Will be at least Q2 for rest of us, just like Oreo earlier this year.
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Just like I said -- by end of 2nd quarter for V30. I KNEW that was the plan! See here:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...dule-for-south-korea-v35-and-v40-are-up-next/
Android 9 Pie started rolling out to the Korean G7 today, but other models will have to wait longer. LG's schedule says the V35 will also get Pie in Q1 2019 (which ends March 31), but the V40, V30, and V30S will have to wait until Q2 2019 (ends on June 30). The G6, V20, and Q8 are expected to receive Pie in Q3, and the Q9 and X5 will get it by the end of the year.
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Lg v30 in q2 in korea not sure about other region
https://www.fonearena.com/blog/273172/lg-g7-thinq-android-pie-update-v35-v40-v30-g6.html

ChazzMatt said:
Just like I said -- by end of 2nd quarter for V30. I KNEW that was the plan! See here:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...dule-for-south-korea-v35-and-v40-are-up-next/
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G7, V35 and V40 are soooooo similiar, hardware wise, software probably isnt that different either...
You can use the V40 vendor partition on a G7... (just camera and so will have problems)
How do they manage to get there such delays... I surely wonder what they "engineers" there are doing all day long...

SGCMarkus said:
G7, V35 and V40 are soooooo similiar, hardware wise, software probably isnt that different either...
You can use the V40 vendor partition on a G7... (just camera and so will have problems)
How do they manage to get there such delays... I surely wonder what they "engineers" there are doing all day long...
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Marketing? Why rush to update the "old" models when you are struggling to sell the new ones.
Or was that a rhetorical question?

SGCMarkus said:
How do they manage to get there such delays... I surely wonder what they "engineers" there are doing all day long...
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probably 1 or 2 engineers and few college interns doing all the update work

It's about time LG should realise that just stamping out new phones with 10 different variants isn't gonna do anything for them. With the G8 coming out soon I doubt the V30 will even be getting any security updates after the pie rollout. No cutting edge hardware is any good if it's running 2 year old software. It's one thing to treat mid tier or budget devices this way but even to your flagships, that's like axing your own foot. With the 90day security update criteria to be in the so called 'android enterprise recommended' program, LG is just doing the bare minimum so that they don't lose a marketing opportunity.

drone991 said:
It's about time LG should realise that just stamping out new phones with 10 different variants isn't gonna do anything for them. With the G8 coming out soon I doubt the V30 will even be getting any security updates after the pie rollout. No cutting edge hardware is any good if it's running 2 year old software. It's one thing to treat mid tier or budget devices this way but even to your flagships, that's like axing your own foot. With the 90day security update criteria to be in the so called 'android enterprise recommended' program, LG is just doing the bare minimum so that they don't lose a marketing opportunity.
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But there is a specific time period (duration) they have to give those updates. "Knowledge workers" classification is 3 years. "Rugged workers" (construction use, etc) is 5 years. V30 is 3 years for updates.
https://bayton.org/docs/enterprise-mobility/android/what-is-android-enterprise-recommended/
https://www.androidcentral.com/android-enterprise-recommended

ChazzMatt said:
But there is a specific time period (duration) they have to give those updates. "Knowledge workers" classification is 3 years. "Rugged workers" (construction use, etc) is 5 years. V30 is 3 years for updates.
https://bayton.org/docs/enterprise-mobility/android/what-is-android-enterprise-recommended/
https://www.androidcentral.com/android-enterprise-recommended
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Yeah but V30 was launched in sept'17 and completes it's 3 years sept'20. Since LG takes about an year to rollout the updates(pie released aug'18 and it'll positively be Q3'19 before all V30 variants receive the update) even if the next android version releases in Q3 this year I highly doubt we'll get another software upgrade release within that 3 year time frame.

drone991 said:
Yeah but V30 was launched in sept'17 and completes it's 3 years sept'20. Since LG takes about an year to rollout the updates(pie released aug'18 and it'll positively be Q3'19 before all V30 variants receive the update) even if the next android version releases in Q3 this year I highly doubt we'll get another software upgrade release within that 3 year time frame.
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Yes, Pie will be the last letter upgrade and will start arriving Q2 2019 and continue into Q3 2019. Security updates will continue for at least a full year after that.
However, I was referring to this comment:
drone991 said:
I doubt the V30 will even be getting any security updates after the pie rollout.
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Security updates will continue to Q3 2020 and possibly Q2 2021 -- depending on definition of the starting line. Oreo was needed to even be in the Enterprise Recommended program, and we didn't get Oreo and the 90-day updates until Q2 2018.

The V30 will be the first and last LG smart phone I will buy. I'll stick to Google or Samsung next go. But no more LG. Lucky to get one major android update.

ern88 said:
The V30 will be the first and last LG smart phone I will buy. I'll stick to Google or Samsung next go. But no more LG. Lucky to get one major android update.
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We will get two major Android updates. We already got Oreo and will get Pie.

ern88 said:
The V30 will be the first and last LG smart phone I will buy. I'll stick to Google or Samsung next go. But no more LG. Lucky to get one major android update.
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I'll take this reasonably priced phone I can actually unlock/root before I ever consider a Samsuck again!

Anyone got pie update or security patch for LG H930DS?
Has anyone received a security patch update after AUG 2018 for LG H930DS? And has anyone received the pie update? and when do you guys think we will get it? For the H930DS Indian Version..

LG G7 EU Version will recieve the Pie update ?

Hi
Do you think that the lg g7 will receive the pie update for the eu ?
Thank you

Makes you wonder, feels like the G7 is abandonware now that the G8 is out. Even security patches are absent. But the answer is simple, no more LG, ever.

But they said that they will makes an update that's right ?

xeizo said:
Makes you wonder, feels like the G7 is abandonware now that the G8 is out. Even security patches are absent. But the answer is simple, no more LG, ever.
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And in Korea they have the update

In Korea they have the update, so I guess they already did their promise. The rest of the world is a small place in LG eyes.

xeizo said:
In Korea they have the update, so I guess they already did their promise. The rest of the world is a small place in LG eyes.
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Crap, Some forum say that the update was supposed to happen by the end of april.
We will see but I hope so.
Do you know some bugless and good pie rom for the LG G7 ?

Some of the branded models in eu got a update with April patch only. So likely no pie on his way. I try to hold out this year and I go back to sony or oneplus. I wanted to last for sure 2 years with this phone but not on this way. Some thing still not even fixed. Now even other flag ship support wide angle camera it's easy to leave lg.
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Don1003 said:
Some of the branded models in eu got a update with April patch only. So likely no pie on his way. I try to hold out this year and I go back to sony or oneplus. I wanted to last for sure 2 years with this phone but not on this way. Some thing still not even fixed. Now even other flag ship support wide angle camera it's easy to leave lg.
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Yes, pretty easy but it's actually a good phone...
I can't believe that lg just give up about an update for a high-end 2018 smartphone

kadiix said:
Yes, pretty easy but it's actually a good phone...
I can't believe that lg just give up about an update for a high-end 2018 smartphone
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They even move the production to Vietnam to reduce cost. That's how bad lg do. The g8 got tripple camera in Korea and dual in europe. Can't name any other brand who works like lg. Who ever upgrade is not aware of the money you trow away because if you want to get rid of it its lower than half price worth. Good device but what a shame
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Here https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/how-to/lg-g7-pie-update-public-request-to-lg-t3930748
Read this and help our global public action! The more we are the quicker we will get it

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Here https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/how-to/lg-g7-pie-update-public-request-to-lg-t3930748
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I hope that will work

Obviously we have poor chance to get this update.
LG Benelux said "we doesn't know when and if a update is on the way for the EU version of lg g7"
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Since the Kernal sources for Pie for EU versions are already out.. It won't take too long to be rolled out as OTA .. May be this week itself..
http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=LMG710EM

When was it released? ?

Next update should be to the Last May. But what we get whos know. (Last update was in March + 2 months.)

Maverick Honor said:
Since the Kernal sources for Pie for EU versions are already out.. It won't take too long to be rolled out as OTA .. May be this week itself..
http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=LMG710EM
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Does sources were published sometime at the end of March, or beginning of April if I'm not mistaken I had them on my computer for awhile now...
I'll never buy an LG smartphone ever again

MihaiA7X said:
Does sources were published sometime at the end of March, or beginning of April if I'm not mistaken I had them on my computer for awhile now...
I'll never buy an LG smartphone ever again
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Why would they write source code just for fun? it will arrive

Official response from LG Spain. They say that the update for the LG G710EM will come in June but they are not 100% because it depends on the software update center in Korea. So the real problem is the LG center update in Korea.

Well at least lg is the second last behind htc to update 9.0 after any other company updated there flagships. What I read about other phones that have software issues like oneplus 7 pro I must say I don't even want to trade this phone because the G7 still great for what it is and reliable to me. LG could be the best in the market if they put some effort in it.
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Android 10 for LG V35

New Android 10 release schedule confirms eventual update for LG V35 ThinQ
https://www.phonearena.com/news/lg-v35-thinq-android-10-update-confirmed-release-schedule_id121916

1 year later and wating...

I just bought a used v35 that has v350awm30c which equates to android 10

10terryo1 said:
I just bought a used v35 that has v350awm30c which equates to android 10
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You are from the lucky ones,but of course AT&T locked i suppose.
Many others,myself included,that we use AT&T unlocked and ULM versions,are still waiting for LG to keep its promise,but i am absolutely sure that this will remain a dream.
There is no chance i think,that LG will give us this promised android 10 update,after 1 year since its release.

LG left our V35. We will not get new updates
We need LineageOS and someone who will support our phones.

The V35 is a great piece of hardware. It is sad that LG has abandonned it. Shabby software IMHO explains the dire state of LG's mobile division. The odds are good it will be shuttered, sold, or otherwise entirely different in the near future.
Getting LOS support going would be nice. Much of the foundation is in place with work on the sibling V40 and G7 phones. The prospects for it happening are low. The phone is dated so not attracting developers. To make matters worse, LOS is not a viable path forward for LG owners in USA. Carriers are shutting down 3G and redeploying the spectrum. LG's radio implementation is proprietary. Without reverse engineering or a change of heart by LG, the phones will not have VoLTE capability with LOS roms.
As for me, I keeping an eye on Sony's offerings. To LG ThinQ products I say no ThanQ.

Kyrimeas said:
LG left our V35. We will not get new updates
We need LineageOS and someone who will support our phones.
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Unfortunately i agree with you..LG abandoned V35 in its fake,except the Korean models.
Its been a few months since i put aside this wonderful device,as a back up.
I moved on with 1+7,as my daily driver,which is a really great device,got android 10 almost 1 year ago,and android 11 is on its way.
As a second device for professional reasons,i recently got a V50,which is a great device too,and even though it's a Sprint version,i use it in Europe where i live.
Immediately updated to android 10 from 9 and is going very strong.
Of course someone could say,why do you choose an LG device from the moment that the company announced its withdrawal from the smartphone industry?
I know the risks of my choice,mainly if something goes wrong and need repair,but till today,all my LG devices served me really well,despite the fact of luck of quick updates,in addition to other companies.

granazias said:
Of course someone could say,why do you choose an LG device from the moment that the company announced its withdrawal from the smartphone industry?
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I didn't know that, I don't keep up much with tech news anymore. I get a phone that works for me, do the customizations I care about and forget about it. Anyways, sad to see their shutting down their phones unit without releasing 10 for us. And happy that I followed @cmrntnnr Korean Q guide a while ago.

i was looking to buy a V35 because price related to specs is awesome, but iirc, i could unlock bootloader but there is no custom ROM ?
GSI not supported on this phone ?
Sorry for theses dumbs questions

The phone is awesome hardware and android 9 isn't that bad. It's a trade-off.
I stuffed the Korean v350N android 10 in my US unlocked v35awm. All good and dandy, wifi calling working, 4G working just fine. But my car won't recognize its android auto link anymore. I get a black screen after plugging the phone to the car, even with all paired and stuff. Guess I'll back to android 9, even though the Korean 10 worked fine. But had no majors gains with Android 10, was just a test. Won't feel the downgrade much...

I also installed the Korean 10 ROM, and all is well except my mobile speed test has gone from 150/50 to 33/2 on TELUS in Canada. Any suggestions to fix this?

Graveen said:
i was looking to buy a V35 because price related to specs is awesome, but iirc, i could unlock bootloader but there is no custom ROM ?
GSI not supported on this phone ?
Sorry for theses dumbs questions
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What i can tell is yes. But for now there's only one custom rom LOS18.1 but im not sure it's stable or not.. and yep no gsi on stock rom..